/biz/ - Business & Finance

>security+
hack into a company and then tell them about it, they'll probably give you a job

How saturated is this market if all it takes is $20 to get started? Can you actually hey a job of you do this?

>>16689906

these are just courses. real cert tests are $100-$300 still

>>16689876
I’m 25% of the way through the 2,000 page A+ book and I’ve learned so much already. Not even gonna take the test but it’s worth it for the knowledge. I’d recommend the same gold cover book for the Security+ if it’s anything like the A+

>>16689906
Security jobs can't be outsourced in most cases, making your citizenship actually worth something more than paying for niggers welfare, for once.

Another thing is, compsci majors want to be in dev and "big data", and to be frank, many CS majors are really not even "pc nerds", they're just straight cut well off kids who want a "good job".

There is effectively zero competition for anyone who actually has a desire to be in cloud admin/security/devops roles, there is a desperate need actually. So no, just because your shit brain thinks that the barrier to entry is "low" because training and certs are not necessarily expensive is completely wrong. Maybe you should go get a 60k degree in humanities if that is how you judge value, you dumb cuck.

Redpill me on security + careers

>>16690219
opsec anon came and started an IRC, then abandoned us. Few lucky anons prob got in his private cohort, or maybe he gave up. Hr was most likely just harvesting data from dumb anons lol

Security+ here, need to grab PENTEST+

>>16689876
I'm making 70k a year and let me tell you bro, it's still poverty

I have a+ and security+. A+ is basic shit the hardest part is memorizing all the crap they want you to remember but if you’ve built a computer before it should be easy enough for you. Sec+ can be harder but the job I had that required it passed out a brain dump of the test at the time and I passed it almost 100%. That being said it takes a while to break 70k in the field unless you’re really good or go into your own business. All in all I hate it now. It’s just more wage cucking.

70k is nothing after taxes. Your not making shit until 200k+, even then the taxes fuck you up.

>>16690911

was thinking of that as well. would it matter which one i go for first?

>>16691439

more wagecucking but at least better than what i’m doing now.

>>16691844
Places want sec+ a lot. Like way more. Pentest would supplement it better after getting it.

>>16689929
Link me pls, want to try something other than grafting my ass off for nothing.
T. Graftanon

>>16690105
>zero competition for anyone who actually has a desire to be in cloud admin/security/devops role
not true
t. ms in cs

>>16689876
>>16690105
So I don't have a degree never had a Job in IT at 28 I can have a job in Cloud?
Aahahah no way bro
the'll hire fresh CS graduates

>>16691439
do you have a degree in CS?

>>16689876
The easiest way would be putting some money on CENNZ instead. I made about $87k from October alone with CENNZ....

>>16691821
True. I make 80k and coworkers with more experience that make 140k+ bitch about it not being enough. Though in the city I'm in we pay city, state and federal taxes, as well as paying into healthcare and benefits..50%+ of our check is gone.

>>16689876 (OP)
>>16690105
So I don't have a degree never had a Job in IT at 28 I can have a job in Cloud?
Aahahah no way bro
the'll hire fresh CS graduates

>>16689901
This is a meme.
They report you to the police and you get arrested.
They don't hire you because they don't give a shit

2020 will be the year of $DAPP

FUCK BEING POOR, BUY $DAPPS

@LiquidAppsIO
oracles
vAccounts
scheduled tasks
vRAM
computation (e.g. AI)
interoperability (inc. multisigBTC etc.)
SQL
web auth
site &file storage

>>16695424

expand on that, unless this is another meme

any other advice /biz/? security vs front end/junior dev job?

>>16689876

What if I just for fun gave 100.00? Do yo think your life would change? Listen now: you would be the same idiot that you are now. And I mean that nicely.

>>16693214
How hard is an MS in CS for someone with an unrelated engineering degree?

>>16695412
This. They don't even care about effort anymore, fuck companies. Even if you showed how you found the vulnerability without implementing it, they still will not give a shit about you and fix it after your interview.

Effort what for? Show me /biz/ is worth effort.

Steaming on with dignity ;) Continue your missions... enjoy your every victory. Reaload your cannons.

protip: get cisco certs if you want $70k

>>16695661

Funniest post all night

>>16695701
it true though. i got to 70k IT job in networking with just a ccent and could blitz 90% of curry niggers that make up 95% of the industry.

>>16695554
That's why you hack the fed and ask for leniency.

>>16690918
This, I make 70K in the midwest, it's not nearly enough.

>>16695743

I have never hacked anything federal at all. Why would you say such a thing?

>>16689876
Amazon is anti-worker as fuck, bro. Get away from that shit company.

>>16695778
I'm assuming you net $55k after taxes. If you're single, why aren't you pocketing $15k each year?

>>16689876 (OP)
>>16690105
So I don't have a degree never had a Job in IT at 28 I can have a job in Cloud?
Aahahah no way bro
the'll hire fresh CS graduates

>>16696081

You know, at almost 47years old, I might consider hiring you. But prove skill to me. Now. I mean dumb games (which is actually profitable as fuck) can you do anything?

>>16696150
>wants a job in Cloud
>Make games to prove your Cloud skills
????

>>16689876

You have the right ideas Anon

>>16696232

Mistake 1 you never question the master

>>16695778

Same

still cant afford a house

>>16696232

Faggot, I have never had a job, and I never will :>

I Am SATAN THE BLASPHEMER, DO YOU CUNTS EVEN KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS?

They don't ^^

imagine working all year for 70k when you can just put 3k into FRM and have 70k next year

>>16689876

I can give you that money and it wouldn't even hurt me... but do you do in return for us? Have you any SKILL??

>>16696266
>What is FHA
>What is get a nice condo for $150k instead of $300k on a house that has almost the same utility

>>16696404
>condo and townhouse

And play a mortgage in hoa for eternity

>>16696447
>$200/mo
>mortgage
Kinda comfy they take care of everything and water is included.

>>16696447
Also, $90 a month to have your lawn mowed at a house.

>>16689876

I make 200k in nyc. Still can't afford a house. We've been scammed.

>>16696600
Save every penny then move out to an affordable state.

>>16696447

>shared walls
>HOA fees
>Fascist boomer HOA cunts

yea no fuck you

>>16696611

That's what I've been doing. I actually have 100k saved which took almost 2 years. Need at least 200-250k to get something that isn't a pile of shit. And I can't move before that because there are no jobs in rural america. Maybe someday I can get out of here

>>16690918
same here and I live with my parents. idk how the fuck i’m supposed to ever have a kid

>>16696636
>I actually have 100k saved which took almost 2 years.
God damn I'm jealous you can save that much in 2 years. Age, job, and how long til you started making that much?

>>16696704
>idk how the fuck i’m supposed to ever have a kid
$30 or free (Libgen)

Go into cloud shit if you can. The whole industry is moving into that direction and since its a newer field the demand is high and the pay is ludicrous. Experienced cloud guys easily clear 130k in major metros.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPNeJeZ3ODc

Wonderful
4::32 or so.. young Pape... I actually know this guy. Good stuff

>>16690590
ya216 here. I tried to restart the threads. There is no private cohort. He abandoned us all

>>16696819
My plan so far:
Study for a month Network+ then Security+ then Cloud+? without wasting money on the exams. What next?

>>16697234

This is your plan? I don't know. I could only insult thinking about it. So I recommend you do without my opinion

>>16697234
Anon, look for 'remote pentester general' in the archives

>>16697701
I appreciate it and looked it up. I don't think I'm really cut out for pentesting.

>>16697800
Give it a try, Anon. You would be surprised of what you are capable of!

If you decide during your pentesting ventures that it isn't for you, the knowledge will still be extremely valuable to you on the defensive side.

>>16697222
Checked and sad

>>16696150
>. I mean dumb games
tell me what do you want
dumb games what do you mean?

>>16697834
What's a time scale I'm looking at as far as learning til an entry level remote job at it?

>>16689876
Look for a job in B2B sales my man. You'll probably start around 40-45k but if you work hard and don't suck you'll be making $80k in less than 5 years, and only earn more from there

>>16689876
Ccna 3 months of studying
Ccnp
Trucking

>>16693214
Cs isnt networking and it's not certs

>>16698753
All of it is in the threads, friend. A huge part of NetSec is doing research, so you better start practicing :D