/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>16660856
Fuck off Bosch, Fantom is a scam.
>Implying a central bank will use a blockchain with 500 tps kek

>>16660866
Hi dav

>>16660856
Fuck off satsgang.

>>16660856

hold my bags

NO

>>16660856
>its just us in the thread

>>16660856
>3. They will soon publically through the media make what I'm saying public.

try English next time

>>16660856
Fake website

My I'd clearly shows there will be a lot of CUM for those who own Fantom. Remeber this can not be fudded. Facts check out.

Pajeet scam

>>16660856
>which is for moving stablecoins around.
Great moon coming for the fantomcoin , can not wait to feast on delicious korma curry after many moons ,

Andre is a lieer!

Lol the 500tps if for opera not xar . Xar has 20k tps ...

>>16660856
So tell me true, is 100k enough to make it? All this fud around this has been raging for months but I’m curious now to get in before it’s too late.

>>16660856
Also what is your price prediction for eoy 2020? Some people say $100 some people say $50 and dickheads say $1000 give me your honest guess

>>16661305
There's so much potential it's really hard to say. You will notice a lot of very high IQ people hold this coin. They are the chosen ones who see passed the fud. 2020 will be a year to remember that's all I can say.

>>16661305
Big weekly jumps until it finds a stable point around 0.8 I think. Probably above a dollar in January, true moon won't happen until a bit into Q1 when news has properly spread and the speculation money rushes in.

>>16661326
>>16661305
Meant EOY 2019. 2020 is impossible to say, but I wouldn't be surprised to see it around or slightly under the 100 mark.

>>16661325
>>16661326
>>16661337
Holy shit that’s crazy. I mean I see all the fud and my only question is despite the news that came out today all of the partnerships and banks had to of known about this prior to the public and they still went along with it? Also 500-2000 tps isn’t bad if you look at the high end, visa averages about 1700 tps upward of 5k and rarely ever does it achieve 5k according to google. Despite all the fud something tells me you guys are right.

>>16661370
Eventually the fud will be turned into shilling. The fud has no basis if you read it. Look into what they are truly doing vs the fud. It takes a bit of studying but you will eventually see what will happen in 2020

>he believes the fud

you fucking idiots the fud was LITERALLY that Andre lost the mainnet on a fucking USB drive while LINE DANCING for months.

People are just so afraid to put money into altcoins after what happened in 2018 and 2019.
At some point the sentiment will change and money will look for alts that are severely undervalued compared to their achievements. (Like the market found Link in 2019).
FTM is the Link of 2020, it deserves to be in the top 20, people just don't haven't found it yet. Don't miss the boat, anon.

explain how this shit translates into buying pressure, thus raising prices of FTM

>>16661576
This. Real Chad's flipped link into ftm for more upside

>>16661370
fantom is not a scam, but it def is not a moon mission. At my firm a guy proposed we Long in FTM and everyone at the meeting pointed fingers at him and laughed(me included).
This is xmas so i'm telling you solid advice. Stay away before you get scrooged by FTM

>>16661528
its true though. Ever since then the FTM team has been desperately trying to recover the code while releasing fake announcements and mainnets. Andre's clumsiness and line dancing obsession doomed this project.

>>16661666
Check'd

>>16661326
Wtf are you talking about? it won't hit a dollar in january. Maybe January 2021. There is not enough people interested in the markets rn, we need to be patient and wait for bitcoin to make moves.

>>16661676
Subtle fudd, they're evolving.

>>16661621
>fantom is not a scam, but it def is not a moon mission. At my firm a guy proposed we Long in FTM and everyone at the meeting pointed fingers at him and laughed(me included).
>This is xmas so i'm telling you solid advice. Stay away before you get scrooged by FTM
imagine taking the time to type this out

>>16661621
This firm is going bankrupt kek

>>16661717
At my firm the boss told everyone to invest in nerva XNV and lets us cpu mine it on the company pcs.

>>16661621
Hitting a dollar might seem insane from the 1 cent FTM is today, but remember that Cardano was valued at $30 billion during the last bubble.
$1 will put FTM at only $2 billion market cap.

Once all three central banks are announced its never coming back to a cent or even 4 cents

>>16660856
One of the most obvious scams in crypto. Chink team exit scammed long time ago. All you have left is a giant marketing department and some Russian temp devs. 300K TPS lie was their hook, line and sinker. Fantom scammers only deliver 0,2% of the promised TPS. ICO whales are preparing class action lawsuit. The whole scam is imploding.

>>16661370
>visa averages about 1700 tps upward of 5k and rarely ever does it achieve 5k according to google.
Rubbish, Visa is calibrated for 65 000 TPS
https://usa.visa.com/dam/VCOM/download/corporate/media/visanet-technology/aboutvisafactsheet.pdf

500-2 000 tps is another lie, it will be 300 tps maximum.

>>16661098
>Xar has 20k tps ...
More numbers the Fantom scammers take right out off their asses. Zero documentation as always, just "trust us", right?

>>16661823
I hope none of you retarda fall for the FUD. Fantom's selling point is lachesis consensus. There will be tons if mainnets using lachesis. Xar isnalready live with 20k tps initially. Xar is built in cosmos stack.

Opera is simply an implementation of lachesis on EVM. Nothing more, nothing less. EVM ianthe bottleneck. That will be fixed with FVM in 2020.

There will be all sorts of different stacks which use lachesis as the base layer. Lachesis is never the bottle neck, its the other layers which are.holding the potential of the Fantoms consensus. So now we just wait for other to build solutions which improve the VM, application layer, etc and can actually come closer to using Lachesis's full potential.

BTW, Opera with FVM will accomplish 100k tps or very close to.

>>16661835
Denny did you accumulate your 100k ftm yet?

>>16661842
>lachesis consensus. There will be tons if mainnets using lachesis.
Delusional
>Xar isnalready live with 20k tps initially
More lies from the Fantom scammers. Zero documentation as always, right?
>That will be fixed with FVM in 2020.
That's not the problem. You don't even have the promised smart contracts.
>That will be fixed with FVM in 2020.
Insane statement. More outlandish lies from the Fantom scammers.

>>16661853
>Denny did you accumulate your 100k ftm yet?
I am not Denny. Go back to your gay pedo porn and masturbate yourself unconscious again, Raphael.

>>16661842
Fantom is a scam and they can never deliver their 80K tps, 50K tps or whatever they are claiming. The basis of the consensus algorithm is just DPoS.
1. a set of nodes is selected via DPoS
2. these nodes generate blocks as fast as they can
3. they settle on 'absolute time' using BFT (details appear very susceptible to node-level DOS but let's ignore that) and assume literally every DPoS node is honest). This is called 'atropos' and it also creates a dag of valid 'event blocks'.
4. then each node processes all !!!! event blocks from all nodes. When there's a conflict between contradictory transactions, a transaction that's earlier according to the absolute time is chosen..
An extremely peculiar quote from the whitepaper:
>As each node processes all transactions that are broadcast to the FANTOM network, it should provide excellent transaction processing speed.
what this means: throughput is fundamentally limited to the parallel capacity of any individual node. This is fundamentally less scalable design than sharding, which makes the consensus parallel itself (each node only verifies a subset of blocks).

This would be relatively easy to implement for utxo-based transfers, but for smart contracts it becomes a pita. EOS tried to make parallel processing work, but they decided the overhead from detecting conflicts makes it too costly, as too often the state access is sequential anyway (a simple thing like a contract that increases an internal counter each time it's called can't be parallelized!). That's why they settled on 'inter blockchain communication' which is really an inferior version of sharding and an admission that Vitalik was right.
Sharding wins because it makes parallelism explicit: smart contracts have to design for it. So instead of one global counter, there would be many parallel counters on each shard and periodic accumulation of them all.

A detail of their 'lachesis' consensus is that it's _extremely_ wasteful in terms of bandwidth

>I am not a pajeet
>Please buy so I can get rid of my bags
>South African banks

Pathetic shilling

>>16661880
>A detail of their 'lachesis' consensus is that it's _extremely_ wasteful in terms of bandwidth
as at worst O(n^2) bandwidth used for O(n) of processing. That's because nodes just spam every block they generate, but at worst only one block from all generated at any second is going to be valid. So each node generates n blocks, there are n nodes, giving n^2 blocks, but only n blocks turn out to be valid at the end.
This is a really absurd design decision. If they forgot about their absurd 'DAG' design and just moved block generation to one node at once, but with parallel processing (same throughput) all that waste would be avoided.
This signals that they have no idea what they are doing, so the real TPS - for real transactions, not specifically designed parallel tests - is almost certainly going to be in the low hundreds, making it a yet another forgettable DPoS network

>>16661875
Kek too easy.

You can't hold it in after I called you out once denny. Now we know it was you

>>16661885
>Now we know it was you
You are the most pathetic loser and worst "investor" on biz, paki Raphael. I am not Denny. Here, pic. You with your beloved vpn exposing yourself as a true psycho, as always, long time before any "Denny".

The question is why constellation dag denny is fudding fantom 24 hours a day in biz?

Find any archived constellation dag thread and you will see denny call anyone who fuds dag raphael

Looks terrible on constellation dag you fudding fantom like this. Get a life

You fucking retarded shills, Fantom is a SCAM and today's tps revelations only serve as confirmation.
By all means, continue shilling your scam bags.
FUCK YOU ALL

>>16661937
Explain why XAR is using Fantom if it's a scam? If you can't stfu and apologise you goat fucking inbred.

>>16661896
Hahahaha fucking baited every time Durgesh

>>16660856
Yes, FTM is so good coin sir. Main Net dump before release, not going back to $4M cap sir.

Just buy FRM if you want a pajeet moon.

>>16662048
Such bland fud.

>>16661908
>>16661922
>>16662003
Please don't waste my time with your incredible immature and low-IQ comments.

>>16662086
Same fudding pajeet. Post your fucking hand

>>16661908
Denny is paid by Constellation, hes admitted it multiple times. Why do you think hes here 24/7/365? Hes not autistic or stupid, he is literally paid to spread misinformation. DAG hired a professional troll and he has a few screennames. Denny Daggins, Megaman, Denny Da Rocket

He works with Satsgang and if you see him in your telegram you are hitting ATL guaranteed.

I thought it was him. As soon as I said it he called me Raphael kek

Denny is a cunt and it's funny as fuck constellation are paying him to fud fantom when they can't even afford a proper team.

As if any of that matters when all the banks and partnerships are announced.

>>16663525
Who
Is constellation and why do they want fantom fud

Constellation is a low liquidity shitcoin with a pnd group running their community. Their ceo was fired for gambling with investors money and they only have 4 team members left. I don't know why they are obsessed with fudding ftm everyday for hours and hours on here. Makes this board shit