/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>16607826
The only people who tell you that they believe he's Satoshi are part of his scam, involved directly or just gullible idiots. They don't really believe he's Satoshi either. They just think they will be able to make some cash by being in on his scam.

Nobody in the real world believes it as can be seen by looking at how fast BSV sinks into oblivion:
1 BSV = 0.01177960 BTC

>>16607826
> there are literal subhumans who deny is proven fact

>>16608002
nice pasta. You fuckers are so desperate holy shit.

>>16609026
>desperate
I don't think you understand what this word means
if anything, BSV retards are desperate, as their shitcoin drops in sats every day

>>16609161
and BTC hasn't dropped from 11k?
>look in the mirror at your own reflection demon

>>16609169
that is irrelevant, since your shitcoin dropped harder, both in $, and in sats.

>>16608002
>Nobody in the real world believes it as can be seen by looking at how fast BSV sinks into oblivion:
>1 BSV = 0.01177960 BTC

0.01186697 and climbing

try harder, blockstream tranny

Stop my invincible son

>>16607826
He is literally Satoshi and BSV will have the biggest green dildo the world has ever seen when he signs the genesis wallet and flips corekeks out forever

>>16607826
I'm not sure anyone actually believes this.

Say whatever you want but that alcoholic faggot can't be Satoshi.

>>16609246
>Say whatever you want but that alcoholic faggot can't be Satoshi.

>>16609222
>SOON
where the segwit flaw that your scam master said was gonna expose thid year, bsvjeet?
i honestly cant understand how people still shill for this guy even after he hasnt delivered ANYTHING that he has promised over the years. anyone that still shills for this is unironically a subhuman souless animal that should be gunned down

>>16609256
I'm confident that at least 95% of BSV posting is just bait

>>16607826
>guy hands you a candy
>lol check that out is sour patch kid lol
>pop into mouth
>just before you say “god fucking damn bro this shit is sour as fuck” he snaps pic
>you PR team slides thread on /biz/

I don't see much good coming for BSV in 2020. Even BCH is positioned much better in comparison.

Craig has demonstrated that he's a liar, a forger and has no power. The real man behind BSV is Calvin Ayre who finances it through his offshore companies. What have we got?

nChain is essentially unprofitable. Nobody wants its patents, nobody wants to use BSV for anything remotely serious. The few BSV projects that Calvin put his money into are essentially vaporware (really half-assed tech!) and bring no profit as well. There is no profit model. BSV is Calvin's charity at this point. On top of that, the "community" is largely moonboys who believe that everyone will jump on the "real bitcoin" any minute now.

I can foresee two scenarios:
- Calvin runs out of steam because of Craig's idiocy, moonboys lose hope, the whole thing falls under its own weight
- They pull off something stupid like forking Satoshi's coins (on the BSV chain) which will make them the object of ridicule

Both outcomes are bad.

>>16608002
>>16609013
>>16609238
>>16609246
Stay salty Greglets and corecucks. We all know if it was a simple as you pretend behind your seething facade, you wouldn't even be here.

>>16609318
my ESL friend please learn how to compose sentences

>>16609256
>segwit flaw
he posted it here, go look at the archives

>>16607826
Satoshi handed Bitcoin to Gavin Andresen and after that Bitcoin was given to the likes of Blockstream. Open source means it can be worked on by anyone at any time. The people involved in buying and investing in Bitcoin do not gives a shit about who is working on it. They know it's valuable because it's the first cryptocurrency and mining Bitcoin has not stopped since the genesis block was mined.

Why there are so many shillers and supporters of Craig after all the archive.org and research you can do. He committed fraud, he's edited webpages, and where is any of his code skills displayed to prove he's a top C++ expert? Why because Satoshi said 'bloody' and there's some evidence that Satoshi was from the U.K.? The Satoshi Affair is not an accurate telling of the real Satoshi.

It's not Craig. There's more evidence it was Hal Finney, Nick Szabo, or Paul Le Roux. Why was there a header in the court documents that said Paul le Roux? He was the creator behind TrueCrypt encryption and he was involved in money laundering. Bitcoin is perfect for money laundering. Hal Finney lived streets away from a real person named Satoshi Nakamoto. There's too many spurts of events that have nothing to do with Craig Wright's involvement in creating Bitcoin.

The creation for Bitcoin is a collaboration of ideas since the 1970s and Craig wasn't the person that wrote the code.

Forget signing the genesis block. Log in to the bitcoin talk forum as Satoshi if you're really Satoshi Craig.

>>16609313
It still amazes me how stupid people are.

1. Blockchain as we know it makes only makes sense with PoW.
2. Only one of the 3 "Bitcoins" can make it.
3. Only if miners mine, Bitcoin works.
4. BTC will die on halvening sooner or later because it can never get enough fees to feed miners.
5. BCH is a joke
6. BSV is the original which will be profitable if used "either a shitton of tranaa or non e"
7. Only BSV can make it.

>>16609348
the only flaw in segwit is:
brainlets don't get it they can't comprehend it's elegance and beauty and economy. they keep making shit up while drooling and masturbating to somehow cope with the frustration stemming from not understanding this shit.

>>16609389
The wallet and clients are open sourced, not the protocol.

There can be plenty of open source implementations to execute TCP/IP but the protocol itself doesn't change.

>>16609390
you are wrong of course, you made the mistake where you assume any of the shitforks miners can get nearly as much in fees as btc miners get.
this stems from not understanding the underlying economic models properly but slurping up the diarrhea of cashie shills.

>>16609424
BTC miners can get enough in fees only if the fees are so high that nobody is going to use BTC anymore.

>>16609424
Your brainlet understanding of the 'economic model' is basically this.

AWS can't offer more than 1tb of storage because then storage rates will be greatly devalued. Instead they need to limit the entire cloud storage to 1tb of capacity and create a bidding war for that storage.

If instead, AWS provides no upper bound for the storage they can offer in s3, people will just dump data into s3, and devalue the storage down to 0.

Which one of these is true? Hmmmm

Reality being, s3 has no upper bound, and makes plenty of money. Wonder why they don't just impose some artificial cap to their storage they offer, that way they can create a false scarcity and drive up prices!

Certainly that's a brilliant economic move right!

>>16609465
I got a feeling you're re-iterating some kind of point you read/heard somewhere but can't quite remember it, because you're not making a lot of sense.

Oh wait, no it's not, because there might initially be a bidding war for that storage, until peole realize hey, this isn't worth bidding on anymore because there are too many of us crowding the space, and prices are getting ridiculous.

This no longer makes any economic sense for us to use this system, and we should move onto a better system that can support our usage in an efficient and costly manner (our storage needs, and economically competitive)

>>16609476
If you can't connect these dots together you are hopeless
>>16609447
>>16609465
>>16609482

>>16609490
hopeless in the sense that there's no hope dragging me into this scam, then yes, I'm absolutely hopeless.

>>16609580
Some people are hopeless, some have agendas. I don't know which you are, but I'm not interested in "dragging you into a scam".

I'm only interested in providing counter points for other people who stumble by so they have a proper chance at seeing what's really out there, instead of just being spoon fed a bunch of FUD talking points.

>>16609615
but anon you just rambled for 3 posts about amazon storage
analogies are supposed to make things clearer, not more confusing
that's why I thought you just took it from somewhere else, where whoever explained it was talking to a BSV audience and instead of explaining BSV was just flexing their irrelevant knowledge in storage prices

>>16609446
this

>>16609644
It's called an analogy, I know it's difficult for you to understand, but I'm sure others can wrap their 3 digit IQs around it.

>>16609256
>I honestly
You jews couldn't be honest if your mother's life depended on it you degenerate parasite

>>16609275
>I'm confident
If you were confident why did you feel the need to state you are feeling confident?

>>16609681
>It's called an analogy
yes, I acknowledge this fact on the 2nd line, consider reading. I'll reiterate, since you posses the patience of a toddler, analogies are supposed to make things simpler, your analogy is trash, because it takes into account someone being familiar with AWS offerings.
But I get it, you're just reading from a script, you can't really improvise, it's ok pajeet.

>>16609446
>>16609670
just look at the fucking data already!
btc block fees are 3 magnitudes higher than sv for same block size and this difference will only increase over time. and btc will obviously also raise the block size but will do so while keeping the fees increasing with blocks perpetually full.

>>16609465
artificial caps would only work in a market where there is no competition or free entry. nothing can truly compete with btc for what btc does. it is very durably unique you can not reproduce it's history and prestige for a shitcoin.

>>16609753
They will never increase blocksize.
They refused to increase at $50

>>16609753
corecucks actually want to decrease blocksize.... you really should do your own research before saying stuff you took out of your ass.

and about those three magnitudes.... investigate the difference in reward by USD and reward by bitcoin. Subsidies and fees are paid in bitcoin and miners have to then exchange it into fiat to pay for electricity.

>>16610239
because it did not need increasing then. it will soon enough for now segwit adoption is driving the capacity increase. bitcoin has a virtual block limit at around 3-4mb depending on use. they will increase the base block which acts as a multiplier.
don't expect anything so severe as bch did. btc choose the path of the small blocks they will keep them full so that blockspace has tangible value.

>>16610287
>corecucks actually want to decrease blocksize....
bullshit, you can pretty much automatically disregard 99.9% of what lukejr says.

>>16610290
>>they will increase the base block which acts as a multiplier
Kek basically meaning devs decide price. Good luck with this shit.

>>16610290
you drank too much koolaid

>>16610320
>Kek basically meaning devs decide price
no
you still don't get it. btc will not have constant hardforks like the shitforks. it will be made self adjusting based on average fees. it's just a tad more complicated than a simple equation because bitcoin has no idea about the exchange value of a fee over time.
self adjusting blocks that keep the fees reasonably high to achieve network security and discourage spam but not hinder adoption and growth are paramount to bitcoins long term survival.

>>16610379
Kek if it only works by using average fees because there aren't enough transaction to always have low fees it's fucked.
Also you can't do particle swarm optimisation with fees higher than a fraction of a cent.

>>16610379
in fact there are several problems even with aggregation as average is too easy to skew with spam. probably total fees collected in blocks on average somehow correlated to hashrate which correlates with price roughly except for technological breaks maybe a long period ma on hashrate could smooth it out...

ideally a bitcoin tx would cost about .50 to $1 for possible next block inclusion. i will work on this when i have the time and not dead tired.

>>16610407
>Also you can't do particle swarm optimisation with fees higher than a fraction of a cent
that's retarded anon don't ever bring that shit up ever again!
bitcoin is for transacting value play with psos on your own computer where nobody can see it!

>>16610407
also i have a good joke about this shit found it

>"hey doc my dogs starved to death"
>"why the hell did you not feed them?"
>"fuck if i'm gonna spend $3 a day on kibble!"

>>16608002
based fpbp

>>16608002

Try harder, big blocks have been the plan for a decade