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Imagine falling for jewish FUD mere weeks before the Tulip trust unlocks and Genesis fork

I don't take price predictions seriously, no matter the person. Shit, Craig said bsv would be $1200 by eoy which is definitely not going to happen, and he's fucking Satoshi.
So you'd be wise to ignore these predictions and treat them as what they really are which is fud

>>16549216
BSV was riding on the idea that Craig was Satoshi and that Bitcoin was a spiritual successor to Bitcoin.

The problem is when you are in public you are required to properly market your crypto - and Craig, regardless of if he is Satoshi, is a complete failure at marketing BSV.

He's bullied other crypto currency rather than encouraging them - including attacking ETH, Bitcoin Cash and several of the early Crypto investors.

As such not only does BSV collapse, but also Bitcoin collapses due to the association with BSV. Craig can arguably be contributed to as the reason for the crypto collapse at the moment due to his creation of a bear market.

If Craig is Satoshi then his final plan will be to drop support to Bitcoin in order to get people to switch to BSV, which is why the whales fled Bitcoin in November. Lack of trust in BSV is why the whales did not move to BSV and instead are waiting.

TLDR:
Craig is responsible for bear market, collapse of Crypto and pushing away early investors in crypto who arguably have the most swing.

>>16549264
> BSV was riding on the idea that Craig was Satoshi and that Bitcoin SV was a spiritual successor to Bitcoin.

Fixed that.

As for your original question. Lack of trust and faith in Craig means Bitcoin SV will drop to around 20 before swinging up again.

Expect BSV to be accepted on sites such as Coinbase by late January.

>>16549264
Only time will tell if Craig's gambit pays off, but so far so good. These upcoming court cases are critical

>>16549304
Uh, he's getting destroyed in the Kleiman case

>>16549456
how?

>>16549465
He's still got potential charges looming and the judge doesn't seem impressed with his goofy shit

>>16549488
you said
>he's getting destroyed in the Kleiman case
how?

>>16549465
The fucking retard signed in 2009 with a software released after 2013, the falsifications are so retarded that he probalby will end up with a broken anus in jail

4chan covered lots of his forgeries/larp claims pretty much in depth.

>>16549507
He's pissed the judge off already and the magistrate recommended contempt charges just to name a few things. Huge amounts of documents he submitted were shown to be fraudulent. He's gotta pay for Ira's legal team already and the case isn't even finished. The judge went so far as to say the Tulip Trust is fake.

>>16549557
How much of what you just wrote is true?

>>16549567
All of it. It's all public.

>>16549574
what is the case about?

>>16549567
Let’s end this once and for all.

>>16549532
Source?

>>16549557
Source?

Let’s get these details and win every bsv argument

>>16549582
It's about Craig being sued by Ira Kleiman for the return of his dead brothers assets. Craig lied about owning millions of bitcoin though and now he's on the verge of owing Ira half of those millions of BTC and forks

>>16549630
how can he owe someone something he doesn't have?

>>16549216
Hes just virtue signalling "look at me im not a neet who needs to hodl" cuck

>>16549596
>Source?
The. Fucking. Court. That and you mothers hole, which appears to be have been the source of all manner of retard in the world. tldr, when your financial welfare depends upon that fraudulent cunt winning a court case, better get used to eating spaghetti and the idea of dying in fucking poverty already
>>16549582
>>16549637
and I hope you're a fucking bot. Not even above is so fucking dumb. You can owe plenty of things you don't have, especially when you are an inveterate loser like this cunt - Pic Related for instance. And, this is JUST the start. Spaghetti for the fat clown, served direct to the cell

>>16549637
Because he lied and said he does have it.

>>16549673
But then the court would fine him for lying. No judge would order someone to bay another something he doesn't have in the first place. Just think how that would look from the point of view of the plaintiff. Your story is not logically sound. What did you lie about?

>>16549672
You dumbass I’m on your side lmao, I want sources so I can destroy bsv bag holders on this board. That 2009/2013 software circumstance is hilarious, and perfect as evidence, got a source for that?

>>16549685
The judge is presiding over whether half of the mined coins belonged to Dave Kleiman. craig said that he mined like 1.2 million BTC because he's Satoshi Nakamoto and so as long as the plaintiff didn't contest, it was accepted. Now craig is going to owe Ira half of those coins even though craig never had them coins in the first place. The whole thing is fucking hilarious.

>>16549755
>Now craig is going to owe Ira half of those coins even though craig never had them coins in the first place
If the judge know it to be true craig doesn't have the coins how could he order craig to give away half of them? And if he stole them why is he not ordered to pay back everything? Many holes in your story

>>16549755
but what if he is satoshi and he does give ira 600k bitcoin? what happens to BTC to then?

>>16549776
It's literally not the judges job to figure out if he has them. craig testified that he had them and that he's Satoshi. Ira didn't argue against craig being Satoshi or having the coins so the court accepted it. Craig had a choice of admitting he's not Satoshi and getting prison time for falsely copyrighting the Bitcoin whitepaper or getting assraped in court for billions in BTC that he never had.

>>16549823
>It's literally not the judges job to figure out if he has them
but you just said the judge know he doesnt have the satoshi coins

>>16549781
Let’s play what’s the crazier thought, I’ll go first:
1) Craig doesn’t have any coins, and based on all these holes in his story, is a class A LARP
2) Craig indeed has been in bitcoin since 2008, invented it, mined 1.2M of it. Was humble enough to not sell anything and went ghost in 2012 onward. All of a sudden a few years later from when he went ghost, he decides to go public because, well why not right?? Started by shilling BCH hard as the true bitcoin.. ughh well nope he broke up with Ver and well whaddya know, BSV is actually the real bitcoin and guess what, he is also Satoshi! Now he has to pay 600k bitcoins, and will market pump bsv specifically so everyone holding it will become instant millionaires when it “flips” btc. All the miners, who 99% of them are mining core, are going to let all of this happen without stepping in, and will swap chains because, Greg /Satoshi said so.

Oh and don’t forget there is a flaw in segwit that will fail any moment now.. any moment.. oh right also BSV $1200 EOY.. which is about half a month.. whew!

>>16549835
No, I said the judge doesn't believe the Tulip Trust exists.

>>16549884
How can the judge prove that craig stole the money if they think he didn't steal it?

>>16549900
Craig said he has the coins and said in an interview that Dave was the "other half of the Satoshi team". Craig has essentially forfeited any claims that Dave wasn't his partner.

>>16549965
How did they prove he stole them?

>>16549975
They don't have to prove it when Craig says it in interviews.

>>16550000
Nice GET

>>16550000
craig said he stole money from dave?

>>16550008
He said in an interview that he had to give half of those coins to Ira and that Dave was also "Satoshi". He literally guaranteed he's going to owe Ira billions with that statement. The guy is an idiot.

>>16550026
did craig say he stole money from dave?

>>16550040
Yes. He said he's got Dave's half of the Satoshi stash in a Tulip Trust.

>>16550055
>Yes. He said he's got Dave's half of the Satoshi stash in a Tulip Trust.
link?

>>16550067
https://modernconsensus.com/cryptocurrencies/bitcoin/exclusive-interview-with-craig-wright-just-after-ordered-to-pay-5-billion-in-bitcoin/

>>16550127
you said craig said he stole daves money. Nothing in your pic about that

>>16550143
He admits that he owes Ira the Bitcoins in the article dipshit. The case is about craig withholding assets that belonged to Dave Kleiman.

>>16550151
>He admits that he owes Ira the Bitcoins in the article dipshit
He regurgitates what might be the outcome of the case. You said he said he stole money from dave

>The case is about craig withholding assets that belonged to Dave Kleiman.
How is that possible if he doesn't have the assets?

>>16549596
https://medium.com/@samwill102244/the-tulip-trust-is-fake-8f1e15fae491

>>16550213
>He regurgitates what might be the outcome of the case. You said he said he stole money from dave
There was never any money. The whole thing is a lie but because he won't admit it, he's going to owe half a million BTC he never owned to Ira
>How is that possible if he doesn't have the assets?
Because he claims to have the assets.

>>16549690
https://medium.com/@samwill102244/the-tulip-trust-is-fake-8f1e15fae491

>>16550250
>There was never any money. The whole thing is a lie but because he won't admit it, he's going to owe half a million BTC he never owned to Ira
Why did you lie and say craig had admitted to stealing daves money?

>>16550250
>Because he claims to have the assets.
yes

>>16549847
You forgot to add in 2) that he threatened the ceo of the biggest asic manufacturer and also the biggest exchanges

>>16549216
>is it really going to $5?
undoubtedly

>>16550387
can you elaborate on the threat part

>>16550272
In a roundabout way he most likely did steal part of Dave's piece of W&K. The lawsuit doesn't exactly address that though. Regardless, craig is fucked in this lawsuit.

No person on earth can make reliable price predictions. It's all just a best guess.

>>16549264
>He's bullied other crypto currency rather than encouraging them

You're a faggot.

>>16549216

Lets' see, should I trust the jew Ari?

$5 in his dreams. We're most likely gonna see the opposite.

>>16549847
>he decides to go public because, well why not right??

Stopped reading there. Bitcoin has been in the state of civil war since Bitcoin XT or earlier.

>>16551288
The faggot basically accuses people of random crap like early btc devs of wanting to build assassination markets, bitmain of betraying him, bincance of money laundering.

He is constantly accusing people to be on the offensive so everyone is defending themselves instead of calling his bullshit.

>>16551620
>everyone is defending themselves instead of calling his bullshit
I've literally never seen any of those people respond to those accusations. They all dismiss anything and everything creg.

>>16551288
Also look at this

twitter.com/marttimalmi/status/1147485758971924480

This guy is the first btc dev and Craig accused him of insane shit.
Look at in YouTube bitcoin developening visualizations and you will see this guy build nearly everything at the start.

>>16551655
I stand corrected.

>>16551643
Look at this one

>>16551655
This shit is insane

Yes, the man is clearly desperate.

>>16550000
nice
>>『checked』

All these butthurt early contributors who over the years have convinced themselves and others they *built* bitcoin (they were code monkeys)

They desperately don't want to see CSW acknowledged as Satoshi because they know their over inflated roles in the creation of bitcoin and celebrity will come crashing down.

Another shitcoin on the trash heap. Maybe those scammers will STFU for a while now.

>>16551620
>>16551655
He's obviously mentally unstable and clinically insane. The only edge he's got is that he's backed by a wealthy childless boomer (Calvin Ayre) who's ready to waste millions on his bullshit.

I don't care about this BTC-BCH controversy and whose philosophy is better, but it's pretty obvious that most people don't give a damn about the tech and only pretend to care about it: they're in it for the money because they believe in Craig and his promises. Too bad he's a money pit and Calvin isn't a money fairy.

>>16552028
You basically just described the exact opposite of what's going on.

You even just admited you don't care about BTC vs BCH controversey (literally tech)

This is about big block vs small block.

You then claim the big blockers are the just in it for the money people while you are obviously the pump and dump brainlet who is just desperately clinging to a shit tier system that has no real world impact to just protect your bags.

>>16552028
>they're in it for the money

Bitcoin is an economic incentives system. If someone is in this not for the money, they're lying. If they weren't incentivized then that would mean the tech doesn't work.

>>16551948

THIS

BSV gonna rape the shitcoiners and corefags within 6 months.

>>16552072
A ponzi scheme is an economic incentive system, that is your justification for BTC being a good system? When you walk down the street every day, what impact have you seen BTC have in your daily life?

Rethink that again with what big blocks will bring and come back to me

>>16552101
>that is your justification for BTC being a good system?

I'm a big blocker. BTC is a terrible system.

>>16552028
Obviously this.

This whole thread is a jidf psyop. Israel is doomed

I'm ready

Now THAT (image) is what I call a fucking YIKES

>>16552295

You're probably right.

>>16551982
Get shit on loser while stiff marines make millions

>>16552329
His biggest blunders are overestimating the intelligence of the crypto community. He wrongly assumes that people will be able to see the superior technology for themselves, but their stupidity continues to blindside him.

>>16552329
Timelines changes

>>16552329
It's almost as if there was a split and people in BCH deviated from the Satoshi Vision. That said, CSW should stop making public price predictions.

why $5?
it's going to 0.

>>16549216
price is being artificially held down for the right people corps and gov'ts to buy in cheap

>>16549596
Do your research before arguing, pajeet. BSV holders are litmus test for functional retardation in the crypto community. I can understand wanting a few crumbs from Calvin’s leftovers to pay rent on a shack, but goddamn, you don’t actually believe in the legitimacy of BSV, right? You’re not completely obtuse?

>>16553070
>it's more profitable to use PoW, fund startups, media, conventions, etc to scam people then it is to use PoW, fund startups, media, conventions, etc to scale Bitcoin and have your chain become the backbone of all economics in a decade or less

>>16553136
>have your chain become the backbone of all economics in a decade or less
ANY DECADE NOW
>Jus Wait™

>>16553147
We haven't had Bitcoin in like 5 years, dude. Shit is just now getting around to scaling and application deployment.

>>16553136

>>16553070
Re read the comment, that is not pro BSV

>>16554000
Fuck hole

>>16549261
Hahha Cope harder, shit will probably have no liquidity before $5 though

>>16549216
3 dolla

>>16549465
>how?
you see, saying shit like "tulip trust" can fool Indians from crypto twitter but it doesn't hold up in court