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its called a good company faggot

>>16521204
That's right, it is called a good company. The truth is, it's not. They're very good at marketing, but you can't lean on marketing forever. The innovation has stagnated and their products are taking an obvious downturn. Q1 2021 will be nasty for apple. I can feel it in my bones.

>>16521274
Short it and see what happens.

Apple is no longer a products company, they're a services company. They will continue to make cash hand over fist through things most people don't realize. Like AWS was for Amazon.

Its called selling a good or service that people want faggot

>>16521287
People have always used apple services secondary to their hardware. That's their entire business model and it's why they have had this much success. People want their overpriced goofy looking jewellery hardware. This is the move that will hurt apple a lot. You may not like it, but that's the way it is. People who want to use apple services will have apple hardware... If they no longer have apple hardware, they'll have no reason to buy half baked products (services are products by the way) at an inflated price. The only business facing market they have are apple fanboy executives who make bad decisions because they trust apple. If apple thinks they can drop hardware in favor of business facing services, they're going to have to get extremely competitive. Apple is simply not compatible with competitive pricing. They have absolutely nothing unique to offer except marked up hardware in shiny cases for loyal consumers.

>>16521287
>a services company
Not sure if going the way of IBM should make anyone thrilled as a shareholder.

>>16521404
Delete this NOW.

>>16521404
>They have absolutely nothing unique to offer except marked up hardware in shiny cases for loyal consumers.
Poorfag detected. Go and enjoy your chink botnetphone

>>16521445
>thinking Apple is remotely close to going the way of IBM

>>16521404
>>16521274
>misunderstanding Apple this hard
lmao stop thinking with your emotions (and the shitty android you've got up your ass) and get real if you ever want to succeed as some sort of investor

>>16521679

>>16521727
>t. financed an iPhone through his carrier at an 18% fee over 2 years

>>16521774
How expensive do you think iPhones are kek

>>16521287

Thats what i wanted to write my fellow based and redpilled anonfren.
Apple Focuses more on Service and Software than on Hardware desu.
They are still "in" for many folks they represent premium in every aspect.

Take the earpods for example which are basically nothing more than at least 40 grams of plastic. For americanish that means 1.4OZ of plastic.

1 Kilogram is worth around 0,42 Eurocent which is roughly 0.45$ dollar , 1 kilo in americanish is 35.274 OZ.

TL;DR

APPLE SELLS BASICALLY 40GR PLASTIC FOR AROUND 300$
IT HAS ONLY A APPLE LOGO ON IT.

TELL ME MORE THAT APPLE SUCKS, NYUKKAH THEY AINT.

Yours sincerely

Apple Stakeholder himself

>>16521176
yo man the whole smartphone industry from 2007 on pulled a lot of motherfuckers and countries and key sectors along.
Hardware, software, programming indusrty, South Korea, China, US, the whole social media industry and hangers-on. They all can go on their knees and thank Steve Jobs from the bottom of their hearts for giving them a good decade-plus of growth. Especially the slant eyes.
Now....if it is finally over we better all hope that something comparable will come along and guide us through the next decade. If not then god help us all

>>16521176
great post yeah man apple is just like a shitcoin with no actualy use! no product, just an exit scam bro. cant believe people fell for steve jobs exit scam.

>>16521931
this but unironically

apple is the poster child for the post 20008 economy.... all bullshit and hype sold to vain retarded pieces of shit for a 20x markup

>>16521176
If you unironically believe apple is worth 12 dollars (which is 53 billion dollars). While they have 200 billion dollars just in cash. I don't know what to tell you except: Yes that is what delusional looks like.

>>16521742
You will never disrespect Kek again.

>>16521970
>post 2008 economy
lmao modern capitalism is basically about creating hype for shit people don't really need. If you think this is a recent phenom then im afraid you're mistaken. Just look at the diamond industry.

>>16521970
Yes, but not in that way. Apple is the poster child for turning your well run buisness into a leveraging machine, you can get jacked to the fucking teeth on cash and shove it all into the market knowing all your buddies won't ever sell either. It's running out of fuel though, real cash flow is so low and liquidity is drying up. All the 401ks and pensions buying power is dried up

Cash on hand is massive. AirPods (Pro) are the hottest Christmas gift this year. New macs are coveted. Services pulling in record cash. Watches selling like hot cakes. I’ll keep making my dividends increase and hold while you miss out, OP

>>16521176

Holy shit, and I sold at $217

>>16522957
>250B COH
>low liquidity
>TTM 58B FCF

Wat.

>>16521903
>APPLE SELLS BASICALLY 40GR PLASTIC FOR AROUND 300$
>IT HAS ONLY A APPLE LOGO ON IT.
this is equivalent to bitcoins selling at $20k each. i wasn't sure on this thread until now but you actually just helped me identify that we are indeed at the top. thx

this chart look perfectly good
not a bubble

>>16523075
They have 800% more assets on book counting towards EPS and debt to equity then they do actual buisness asset income. Low liquidity is market wide, total volume/breadth is not keeping up with price growth.

>>16521404
This is kinda what I’ve been thinking lately. Apple have definitely slipped, and their “services” are not going to save them if the hardware goes.

Still, the hardware (as much as I hate applel stuff) will continue to be bought I think. Things like the new 16” macbook actually looking decent for a change make my shorting finger hesitate.

>>16521274
>That's right, it is called a good company. The truth is, it's not.
That was kind of clever.

>>16521820
Too

>>16522029
Just cause his mouse was hovering over that point on the graph doesn't mean that's his projected estimate.

>>16524414
>Just cause his mouse was hovering over that point on the graph doesn't mean that's his projected estimate.
Maybe it is. Maybe it isn't. His entire claim is it is that apple is in a bubble while it being one of the fairest valuation companies compared to other FAANG/Tech stocks. This is why TA is cancer.

>>16521774
Have you even bought a phone since 2010? You can pay off a phone with no interest with every major carrier.