/biz/ - Business & Finance

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Best place for leafs to buy? Our only online vendors are silvergoldbull and canadianbullion. Both of which charge ~10% over spot. Are local shops the way to go in leafland?

>>16499434
Local shops or coin shows.

>>16499355
Bros I only have 27 oz's how many do i need???

>>16499580
Stop misgendering me!

>>16499580
at least 1000oz in order to make it anon

>>16499629
That's only $17,000 dude. Are we expecting silver to 100x or something? Here to last ATH is only like 3x, 100x seems like pure delusion

>>16499817
actually it's 13,969.26$

Are all the links in OP 100% reliable? I don't want to find out a year from now I have a box of fakes

>>16499831
I suggest at least purchasing one coin to make sure it's real silver because regardless that I tell you these are real you'd still be skeptical because we are on 4chan

Gold goes first silver will follow.

> silver demand highest in recent history
> silver mined lowest in recent history
> prices stay ridiculously low

Who's fault is this? Who could be so open about manipulating the market prices?

>>16500311
What I still have yet to comprehend is why the spread over spot is so much higher for silver than for gold. Any smart bros out there have any thoughts?

>>16500333
Because people pay it.

>>16500333
Because we have a massive 20% VAT on Silver in Europe (except Estonia's 0% and Germany's 7%) and most of the stackers are apparently too lazy to get it VAT free from somewhere else.

Group Silver orders from Estonia are quite popular, some websites offer VAT free second hand silver coins, but all and all, people just pa the damn tax and don't want to overcomplicate their little hobby.

Not sure how is it in America. Any USbros wanna add to the topic?

>>16499434

Everybody is gonna charge ~10% over spot unless your buying from some shmuck face to face.

>>16500333
Considerably smaller values per unit. If you buy fractional gold (1/2, 1/4, 1/10 oz. or gram measured) you'll start to pay higher % premiums comparable to silver

>>16499817
The goal for a lot of silver/gold stackers (the conspiracy theorists anti-government folks) is to have enough to simply not starve to death if things get bad. Most of them don't stack to get rich or buy 1000000 homes during a crash.

>>16501066
Although to be fair you should be hoarding food & supplies by that point. A lot of silver stackers talk about prepping for SHTF but forget to buy shit like food.

They just think they will make it with silver alone.

Anybody else like gold and silver coins with Elizabeth II portrait?

The Schiff has sailed.

>>16501606
Can't wait to have an Incel Face of her retarded son on my King's Beasts collection.

>>16501066
>(the conspiracy theorists anti-government folks)

>>16499355
20 oz of gold 500 oz of silver will i make it?

>>16501917
yes

>>16501917
yes

>>16501917
Yup, that's a pretty nice stack anon.

>>16501917
Yes, now just wait for the collapse, sell it all, buy real estate and enjoy the cash flow for the rest of your life.

>>16501902
I've actually been thinking about that. I hope they make him look like Dana Carvey imitating Charles.

Silver will be 3 digits by 2030.

I have one question. When I order silver, is it safe to order in bulk? Let's say I order thousands worth, what if something happens like the package is lost, stolen, they replace my stacks with books, etc. Is there any safety net from this happening, or am I getting unnecessarily paranoid?

>>16502502
>have over 100,000oz by then
>silver skyrockets to around 500$
>be over 42mil richer

>>16502590
>what is shippping insurance

>>16500988
Seems plausible but why is that? Is it purely a volume thing or does the cost of making the coins somehow factor in?

>>16501606
No, I hate that bitch.

>>16499355
That’s not how reflections work, moron

>>16500311
Jews

>>16503285

what are you talking about

>>16503300
These reflections are completely wrong, and are entirely missing at the bottom right. I’m actually embarrassed for you; a real silver stacker would rather die than use this in an OP

At least you got dem dubdubs

>>16503300
Dude all your security numbers are the same too. What kind of amateur hour shitshow are you tryna pull here anyway?

>>16503350
>>16503376
>literally this retarded he's replied twice
Anon it's just a fucking image I grabbed off google calm down you fucking sperg

>>16503394
Jesus fuck dude, if you’re not serious about stacking dem bars don’t be starting threads about them. Use my pic if you have to, the reflections work perfectly

>>16503433
Anon it's silver in general it doesn't matter what I fucking use.

>>16503350
>>16503376
Who let this autist into my based hobby?

> you need about 4 kilo of pure silver on average to build a single Tesla car

How much do you think Musk will be willing to pay for silver when China decides they want most of it? How much more when NASA will go all out against the SpaceX to win the Mars Race?
Will Jews continue to keep the prices low on purpose, so the Goyim won’t have a real chance to get rich?

>>16503462
>reflections dunt matter
So how do you brush your hair and adjust your glasses anon? In a mirror. Oh, The reflection suddenly matters nao, eh boi. Check, and MATE

>>16503570
Soz

>>16503570
>literally spergs the fuck out over a random rendered picture I snagged off google
>replies to himself
calm down sperg I didn't make this general for you

>>16503350
>>16503376
ActualAutism.ayylmao

>>16503615
That is a much better render. Colour seems like it might be gold not silver though. Filename seems like it might be from a few years ago and ripped off too. Don’t be using >>16499355 for an /sg/ image though bc I made my money in Ar and I have plenty time to call out shitty reflections thank you

So should I buy 1oz coins or 100oz bars? Does it make a difference?

How much gram is one oz and why keep using aussie metrics

>>16503750
premiums and liquidity

Does it matter what branded silver I buy? American silver is more expensive. Should I just go for cheaper canada/britain?

I see those links in OP have "secondary market" silver which seems like a great bargain. It that actually safe to buy though?

>>16503969
Harder to liquidate than gov issue bullion. But still might not have trouble finding a buyer during a silber rush. I'm buying gold right now for this reason, although silver is a killer deal right now but I think you'll end up sitting on it for a while, ymmv.

>>16502732
It's just economy of supply. Think of the cost per banana at say, Sam's club where you buy an entire tree, versus 7-11 where you only buy one.

You can usually get under 2% over spot on silver if you're buying 100oz bars. Anything less is a ripoff imo.

why are there so many designs i just want to buy silver monthly. what is the best choice, i just want easy buy

>>16504174
>>16503862
These. Is there a rule of thumb to which to buy as the safest most likely to be worthy in the future?

>>16502697
shipping insurance doesnt cover precious metals

>>16502590
it would be safer and cheaper if you didn't order in bulk

>>16503862
>>16504174
>>16504199
I would like to know too. Imagine buying Canadian silver and when you try and sell after the apocolapyse the guy looks at you and says "...a fucking leaf?"

I want to buy a 1 gram gold coin but is this actually stupid and should I just buy one of the 1 gram little bars?

If it isn't stupid to buy the coin which coin would you recommend, my own countries (Australia) Or Eagle/Maple?

>>16504475
>gram
I meant oz sorry guys.

>>16504436
silverbros i need to know this

>>16504436
>>16504475
get government bullion if you can. its more liquid. in either an apocalypse scenario or just being in a tight spot and need to sell, they are more trustworthy due to more recognition as well as having good security features that help identify them as the real deal.

>>16504475

If you're not buying physical in bulk, you're paying exorbitant premiums over spot. The smaller the amount in weight, the bigger the premium over spot.

You're also buying at the highest price Gold has ever been priced in AUD.

>>16504818
b-but last thread a guy posted an image saying that silver premiums were 4 times higher than gold?

>>16501066
>(the conspiracy theorists anti-government folks)

>>16504850
http://www.silvermonthly.com/government-confiscation-gold-happened-beforecould-happen/

>>16504845

You can calculate the premium of any product by looking at the price they are trying to sell it for, and then looking up the underlying weight in Gold/Silver. The difference is the spot. Look it up yourself.

If you're Australian, go to the silver stackers forum and make an account. I was on there during the last bull run, bought a bit and sold a bit on their for sale section. Low premiums on good quality stuff.

Silver right now isn't at an AUD all time high, so it has that going for it.

>>16504933
>go to the silver stackers forum and make an account
Kk thanks anon. I'll stick to silver.

>>16504900
Can you imagine if they pull that shit again. There's no way for them to know you have it right? We can hide it somewhere and they'll never know right?

>>16499355
in my country there is fucking 22% on silver. how can i buy some easly? had some on goldmoney but they just raising fees from january. is etf only option?

>>16504969
I'm not sure honestly. It could happen in my country because no one has guns. You guys all have guns so it would be a lot harder I imagine.

Just bought 6 oz to add to my stack. Two ASE, two CMPL, one Aussie coin, and a Britannia. I'll start diversifying into gold at tax time. I only have 5 grams.

>>16504942

They sell gold on there too FYI.

>>16504818
Aussies about to get hit with deflation while US gets inflation

>>16504818
>If you're not buying physical in bulk, you're paying exorbitant premiums over spot.

Most of don't really have a choice because buying even 1oz of gold is pretty expensive, and I doubt most people here have the resources to buy 1 kilo bars of gold.

>>16504174
Personally I don't think it's matters if coins are government issued when it moons. Just get 1 oz generic coins or bars try to find an exchange that will lower your premiums if you're going to buy in bulk

>>16505283
>Personally I don't think it's matters if coins are government issued when it moons


It matters a ton actually. Checkout the prices for silver coins minted ago 20-30 years ago. Even coins that are only 3 or 4 years old have appreciated some in value. If you're only looking at melt value after the collapse then yea, it doesn't matter. However, if you're looking for numismatic value, the government issued coins are well worth it.

>>16505247

That really depends on a lot of things, anon.

>>16505279

If you can't buy physical gold economically, you can do the next best thing and own a portion of the gold mining company by buying their stock.

>>16505308

>numismatic value

*hand rubbing intensifies*

>>16505324
Fuck off kike. If you can't hold the gold, you don't own it.

>No, goyim don't buy gold if you aren't wealthy. It won't be worth it.

Fuck outta here. If I'm assuming gold 2x or 3x in 20 years, the extra 50 on the ounce won't matter.

>>16505334
There's nothing Jewish about numismatic value. If you only want pure metal, buy bars. Buying current or recent year coins cam give you a ton of profit if you hold for a decade or two. People want the coins to collect, and coins become harder to get as they stop being minted.

>>16505344

Better to buy the milk than the cow, right anon?

>>16505376

It still has nothing to do with speculating on the underlying metal itself. It's akin to stamp collecting.

>>16505308
American silver is slightly more expensive than other countries. Should I eat the difference now and if will pay off, or as long as it's government backed it's good?

>>16505513
>Better to buy the milk than the cow, right anon?

Milk expires and doesn't appreciate in value like gold. Retarded analogy. It's more like buying a smaller cow that produces less milk because you can't afford a prize winning heifer. It's better than no milk or cow at all.

>It still has nothing to do with speculating on the underlying metal itself. It's akin to stamp collecting.
I know. I literally fucking said that. Collector's items still have value though. And a rare stamp/coin can appreciate in value a lot more than plain old silver bar. If you expect to silver to do a 2x,3x, or even 5x in the near future than the extra dollar or two for the coin doesn't even matter. Also no one is telling you to buy ultra rare eagles S-marked or faulted Eagles. Literally just look at the prices on a website, and you can see that some older eagles are worth 3x their metal content just because of the year they were minted.

If you only want metal then go ahead and get bars then. The nice part about minted coins however is that no one questions their authenticity. The premium generally pays for it self if you decide to sell.

>>16505540
>Should I eat the difference now and if will pay off, or as long as it's government backed it's good?

Like I told the other guy. If you only want metal, go for bars or generic rounds. With metal, it doesn't even matter if it's government backed. If the US collapses then the coins will still retain their value as currency by virtue of not being fiat. The government minting is for authenticity, and it helps give value to collectors. Make of that what you will.

A Roman Denarius isn't backed by any existing government, but I'd bet it's still worth far more than it's value in silver.

Realistically, when is the latest silver will explode? What would be a realistic estimate to oz worth? I want to become the 1% while I can still enjoy it.

>>16505843
>What would be a realistic estimate to oz worth? I want to become the 1% while I can still enjoy it.


What age is too old to enjoy wealth? I've met plenty of men in their 60's and 70's who did much of the same shit I do in my 20's. Life doesn't stop just because you become a senior citizen. You might not realize it now, but there's a huge difference between being 65 and 95, just like there is a huge difference between 15 and 45.

>>16505867
Please answer the question, sonny.

>>16505886
Go ask a fortune teller if you want someone to predict the future.

>>16505907
In that case why buy silver or any sort of investment ? Because people can predict and estimate things to come.

What are the chances silver ends up never being worth anything? What if suddenly the american economy jumps up and the dollar is stronger than silver? Or what if they really do plan to get the silver asteroid?

>>16505930
I use PM as a hedge. I don't have an exact timeline for any crash or recession. I just know that at least two or three will happen at some point in the next 50-70 years that I'm alive. If you want predictions go ask people who run the numbers, and do this kinda for a living. I'm just here to post memes.

>>16505941
0%

How should silver be stored? I see people on YouTube picking them up with gloves only and shit. Is a house fire something to think about?

>>16503570
/biz/ turbo autism right here.

>>16504969
>Hey APMEX, this is the US government. Please give us the purchase receipts of all customers since you began recording them, along with their addresses.

Now they have a warrant to search your house. What do?

>>16506220
Come on in!

>>16506220
>My fortune is yours for the taking, but you'll have to find it first. I left everything I own...in One Piece"

>>16506220
*teleports behind the feds

>>16506234
>>16506238
>>16506254
Serious answers please?

>>16506320
Fuck off glownigger, I don't have any gold or any guns. Ask the next sap.

>>16505886
Brat.

>>16504933
>If you're Australian, go to the silver stackers forum and make an account. I was on there during the last bull run
why did silver bull? What was the cause?

>>16506320
By that point it's too late.

Best you can do is tell them you sold them off the record for cash a long time ago. They probably will still search your home though.

>>16503433
Nice.stack

>>16504818
damn, your currency sucks, heavy inflation compared to dollar and euro

>>16507095
They would probably pull some shit like taxing you based on the profits you would have received had you sold at the current market value. Just to spite people who doubted the might Dollar.

Better to say it got stolen.

>>16505376
>Buying current or recent year coins cam give you a ton of profit if you hold for a decade or two. People want the coins to collect, and coins become harder to get as they stop being minted.
which do you suggest?

>>16506921

The last silver bull was immediately after the GFC. I bought 1KG of Silver just before Christmas 2010 and watched it go gangbusters throughout 2011.

The Fed was ramping up their first QE program at the time, and everyone on alternative media was expecting price inflation on a big scale.

It never happened. Price inflation stayed low, asset inflation in the stock market and property market went up and up and up, and has done so until now.

>>16507353
see>>16504997

>>16507373
>It never happened.
couldn't it be the same now? Everyone expecting but not to happen?

>>16507489

You're absolutely right. A LOT of people got burned in 2011 at $50 per ounce and they're holding to this day.

Here's the best advice I can give you: price inflation is not strictly a function of the expansion of the monetary supply.

There are deflationary factors outside of monetary expansion.

>>16507349
Tell them you went on a fishing trip and lost it all at the bottom of the ocean.

>>16504971
Just get 20k silver on there, the raised fees wont make a difference.

>>16507512
Inflation is money supply X money velocity.

Even if the money supply goes up 10x, there will be no inflation if everyone is hording their cash in savings accounts, equity markets etc.

First there will be minor deflation which will cause even more money printing, followed by minor inflation which will cause money velocity to increase as people fear getting less for their money and then finally comes hyper inflation as all the built up energy from all that printed money is unleashed into food and energy purchases.

If you own less than 1000 ounces of silver you're going to be a poor fag in the new paradigm.

>>16506320
I am serious I'm not letting them in and I dont keep my silver at home. I am tempted to build a concrete vault with safe door at home though. I would lock the IRS agents in and gas them with farts

>>16507867
>If you own less than 1000 ounces of silver you're going to be a poor fag in the new paradigm.
Israeli Shills out

>>16508092
>>16508092
Wtf does my post have to do with jews

>>16506238
based

>>16507373
>>16507489
>>16507512


JP Morgan price manipulation kept it low. Informed silver buyers are stacking for that paradigm ending.

>>16508092
Nice Pilpul

(((The chosen))) lose their power if (((Fiat))) loses its power.

>>16509744
And they'll just CONTINUE to keep it low. Seriously, nobody in any thread has been able to give a coherent argument against this. The people in power at JPM and elsewhere won't allow it to moon, so why would you ever "get rich" by holding silver?

>>16505941
Chance of it being worth nothing? Basically 0%. Thing with the price is that silver seems to straddle the position of being a store of value (like gold) and being a super useful industrial metal. Its many uses in industry kinda tie its price to the market, whereas its position as a store of value acts as a hedge against the market. I'll keep stacking silver but the for the above reason I'll probably look at getting some gold too.

>>16509832
They cannot keep it low. China and Russia and other Brics countries and basically anyone who understands the Fiat cam is buying it. At some point they cut the Fiat scam or lose all the precious metals.

>>16510117
They're buying gold, not silver.

>>16503570
And mirrors are made of...silver....

>>16504969
Ofc they know about it.
And they ll do it in my country too.
But if that happens, i'm going to melt all that shit, and dump it in the sewers.
Fuck them.

>>16504199
999, coins: cad maple, britannia or silver eagle

Brehs, I'm about to buy 500 oz. Tell me I'm not going to regret this a month from now.

>>16511409
You will. If you're gonna buy that much, you should split 50/50 between gold and silver.

>>16511428
>>16511409
Get 1oz gold for every 100oz silver.

>>16511555
>>16511428
That will only equal 2 oz coins. Will gold shoot up enough?

>>16511618
Neither gold nor silver will "shoot up". Maybe 2-3x within 10 years. Precious metals aren't a get-rich-quick scheme like crypto shitcoins.

>>16511629
I don't think you understand economics.

Precious metal prices don't shoot up like you say, it's actually the currency devalues

Thanks silver frens just brought my first oz today, is there physical portfolio tracker like Delta for silver that is free

>>16511629
Doesn't matter, probably won't be able to get any in the near future.

>>16511766
Doesn't matter, same shit. Your oz of gold/silver isn't going to shoot up in purchasing power.

>>16511786
Tryhards use Excel Spreadsheet, I just have a notebook where I put all the data. What I bought, when, for how much, what was the Gold to Silver Ratio on that day and all that.

>>16512059
Isn't it the whole point of stacking up gold and silver because it will soon replace the dollar?

>>16512116
LOL yep that's what these people actually believe

>>16511409
Go back to BitCoins, Anon. Precious Metals are not for you. But to answer your question, one month from now probably not much is going to change. PMs are more grounded to the real world events.Prices can spike up, but only after something like a Financial Crisis or Brexit. Right now gold and silver are "cheap enough" so I'm buying. I'm planning to sell either when they spike due to some bad shit going on around the world or a day before I retire at the ripe age of 52.

>>16511555
I'd say keep the jewish paper money spending equal. 1000$ worth of gold for 1000$ worth of silver.

>>16511629
2008 Crisis and Brexit Referendum spiked gold and silver to the BitCoins level of explosive.

>>16511787
Coomer Mentality if anyone thinks gold and silver is gonna make you rich in 3 years. It's a retirement foundation. Before that, sell only when the prices are absolutely ridiculous (700$ per ounce of silver and 6000$ per ounce of gold for example)

>>16512116
Not soon and not replace, Jews would never allow this to happen. Not after they worked so hard to switch the entire country from silver to paper. Apocalypse scenario preppers are insane.

>>16512115
Thanks I'll do that I got an extra notepad

>>16512183
Look into the Jewish diaspora's plans to relocate to China, and how Xi has put a definite stop to that.

>>16512183
So why is the dollar on the brink of collapsing anon?

>>16512115
I fucking love leather notebooks

>>16512324
wait what

>>16509832
Manipulation never lasts forever, the free market always wins out eventually

>>16512702

For almost 20 years they've been planning for their next base of operations. They're aware that the FIAT collapse might not look good for them

https://www.haaretz.com/1.4920795

Keep looking and you'll find more clues that they wanted to go to China and Xi rebuffed them.

Xi's refusing to name Zuck's child was when they seemed to realise it was a definite 'no'.

>>16512809
Wait, were they trying to start a new fiat system with china or keep the current fiat on life support with china?

> A 1oz Gold American Eagle (or Buffalo) has a face value of $50
> A 1oz Silver American Eagle has a face value of $1
I hereby declare that this is the only gold:silver ratio that matters to me. When it snaps back to anything close to this is when I start exchanging silver for gold and no sooner.

>>16505540
If liquidity is one of your concerns then pay for the premium. If you are planning for an absolute moon mission or SHTF scenario then silver is silver so buy cheap.

If it helps imagine the premium as if you took the same amount of money in fiat currency that you spent on the coin as a whole. Given enough time the annual rate of inflation will compound and erode the value of that fiat until it has the same purchasing power as the coin had without the premium. Essentially, if you hold a coin for long enough it will retain its value because the same price in fiat will have eroded down to the spot price and thus the premium has "vanished" and now you are gaining value. This of course assumes the average performance of gold and silver rather than what may actually happen.

>>16512920
But silver comes out of the ground at only a 10:1 to gold and above ground there is only 1:1 with gold.

So 50:1 is still extremely high, I wouldn't start exchanging until 10:1 personally.

>>16513207
I admire your patience. However I suppose I should look up the last two silver moons to see what the ratio was at those times. I will be back.

>>16513388
https://www.macrotrends.net/1470/historical-silver-prices-100-year-chart

the highest it was at was 49.45$ during the year 1980

>>16513425
This was also the direct result of massive manipulation: google “Hunt brothers silver”

>>16513425
80s, 90s, even the crisis in 2008, it doesn't matter. Back then silver was just a shiny metal with imaginary value, like gold.
Today's hopes for silver are a thing only because of the technological level our civilization has reached. We WILL switch from oil to electrical cars in our lifetime. Kicking and screaming if that's what some people will choose.
China is on it's way to become a carbon copy of the Cyberpunk's Dystopia. The unimaginable level of technological surveillance it will require is the reason why they're hoarding silver in ridiculous quantities.
Gold to Silver Ratio in the next 20 years is gonna be like nothing in the recorded history.

>>16503350
>>16503376
imagine being this autistic

>>16513477
That wasn't manipulation, it was literally just a couple rich guys buying it. How is that manipulation?

Manipulation is today's silver market where 5 trillion dollars of paper derivates are used to suppress the price.

If a couple billionaires started buying physical silver they would break the entire market again and it would be 500 an ounce.

>>16513513
>500 an ounce
please, my benis can only get so hard:DD

>>16512809
Lmao, didn't the jews help prop up communism in china?

>>16512848
they realised they've plundered America dry and need a new host. no idea of the plans but Xi said fuck off.

>>16513760
They did. Update your knowledge. Xi is a far FAR bigger reformer than Trump.

>>16499355
What is a realistic silver price in say 2030?

>>16513864
Since more silver is going to be heavily used as ever, I literally think around 500+ dollars an oz

>>16513890
Do you own any miners? You can literally leverage the price of silver to many multiples as their profit increases with higher silver prices. If silver goes up 10x some of the miners profits could go up 50x

I made some ten baggers during the 2016 gold bull run in the junior miners

>>16513760
https://infogalactic.com/info/Anti-corruption_campaign_under_Xi_Jinping

Here you go. Put that in your Hasbara pipe and smoke it.

>>16507867
Simply not true, but I intend tp stack way more than that anyways out of love for the craft.

>>16513857
Explain more.
Is he pro china and anti jew?

>>16513986
Jews are demons in the flesh, prove me wrong.

>>16514378
>>16514524
Xi is a patriot and undertaking massive reforms. Apparently he's extremely capable and wants to move china away from Communism and towards something more humane. Some people think Christianity. But he's such a slick operator that no one really knows what he thinks.

China will never allow itself to be infiltrated like the West was.

>>16513513
They cornered the market on a physical commodity. If that’s not the textbook definition of manipulation I’ll stick a whole box of sharpies up my ass.

>>16514621
Yeah, nah.

>>16514641
It's not manipulation, they were simply buying an asset. It just shows how tiny the silver market is if a couple of rich guys can buy the entire world's supply. It's obviously under valued

>>16514906
I’m just saying that it’s foolish to use any ratios around that time as a benchmark given the circumstances. I’m a stacker and I like silver’s long term potential, I’m just trying to offer some perspective.

>>16514993
You're right, they could be much much higher. Instead of two rich guys, imagine if a country like Russia or China or India decided to corner the market. Silver could be in the thousands

>>16507315
Actually the inflation rate has stayed low.

>>16514621
Good.

>>16507867
>Inflation is money supply X money velocity.
No it isn't. It's money supply / production.

>>16511766
I don't think you understand relativity!

>>16512702
>So why is the dollar on the brink of collapsing anon?
It isn't. It's generally only currencies with centrally planned exchange rates that collapse. There are three possible exceptions (country has huge foreign currency repayment obligations, country lacks an effective taxation system, country is invaded and conquered) but there's no danger of any of those happening in the present day USA.

Be honest. What are the chances America actually collapses and society shuts down as we begin killing each other? Doomsday sayers are starting to get to me.

>>16515315
lol this already happens on a daily basis in no-go zones in every major city. The zones will simply expand. I guess one of the few times I'm glad I live in a rich part of SoCal with almost 0 niggers

>>16515051
Yeah now that I think about it, if JPM or sovereign states are stacking then it could spike higher if/when the shit hits the fan. I just hate buying when it’s this high tbqh.

>>16515482
I watched over 500 gold buffalos sell out on eBay in 24 hours because they went on sale for $30 over spot. This was 3 days ago.

>>16515623
I don’t doubt it: my local shop charges $40-$50 over spot, but I’m not buying gold at these prices. Platinum on the other hand, well, that’s a different story.

Anon's when do you expect Silver to tank back down to the single digits again?
I want to buy a fuck ton but I feel that 16$ is too high atm

>>16515661
If that Platinum Maple is yours, congrats

>missed the dip in April 2019 at $1,275
Looking to pick 10oz of gold. Will it continue to pump into 2020?

>>16516204
The USD is only going to be printed into infinity from here

>>16516246
How is that any different from 8 months ago? Gold will never be that low again?

>>16516274
I'm guessing it will be a little volatile due to FUD and FOMO, but the idea with gold is, you either have it, or you don't. The price doesn't really make much of a difference at this point of the game imo.

>>16515700
>Anon's when do you expect Silver to tank back down to the single digits again?
never
>I want to buy a fuck ton but I feel that 16$ is too high atm
it's not, if anything it's really low

>>16516204
Buy your gold now. If it dips lower, buy more. It's fucking gold so you'll never not have money if you have it.

>>16501606
no

i have 50oz of silver and about $1000 more to convert into PMs. should i go for 1/4 oz of gold+25oz more of silver or should i just go with a half oz of gold either 1/4oz×2 or 1/2oz×1?

>>16516776
1/4 oz of gold+25oz more of silver

>>16515315
>What are the chances America actually collapses and society shuts down as we begin killing each other?
extremely low, you should be preparing for a big global economic downturn that has the potential to cause a war with China, god knows it's certainly overdue.

>>16516863
I don't know

>>16516863
This is a misunderstanding of the fundamentals, we don't require a collapse of society for silver to soar, we just require the nations of the world to keep printing currency; which they will, it's a mathematical certainty.

Exponential increases in the currency supply are a feature, not a bug of fractional reserve banking

>>16499434
Buy through US retailers to a PO Box in NH and go pick it up once every few months.
NH because no sales tax.

>>16506220
>tfw i lost all my gold on a deep sea fishing trip

>>16516966
i understand the fractional reserve banking where money thats printed comes with debt that requires more money to be printed, but how does silver come into play in this? t. brainlet

>>16517367
Do you understand that fractional reserve banking is a meme, and the amount of reserves plays no part in money creation?

Money is created as debt because that's the best way that's been found to control the amount of it. Silver's just a commodity. A useful commodity, and one that speculators go nuts over, but just a commodity nonetheless.

>>16514655
yep good point solidly made from the logical reasoning champion of your particular top tier university.

Long time stacker here, I was thinking about the economy and the future of silver and it got me a bit worried. We're all counting on the fact that the Jews won't be able to artificially keep the price of silver low forever.

But what if the world simply doesn't want expensive silver? What if all the people who hold the money, corporations and all that, decide to simply keep it cheap. So they can buy more and use more of it to produce the technology of tomorrow. I'm stacking both gold and silver, so one way or another I am going to win. The problem is, we might be sort of swimming up the stream and against the will of the majority here.

>>16518624
What, I’m supposed to dignify his chinky “China stronk, Xi good” propaganda shit with an essay? Get fucked chink nigger.

Australian Banking Act 1959, Part IV --- Gold --- 42 --- Delivery of gold
(1) Subject to this Part, a person who has any gold in the person’s possession or under the person’s control shall deliver the gold to the Reserve Bank, or as prescribed, within one month after the gold comes into the person’s possession or under the person’s control or, if the gold is in the person’s possession or under the person’s control on any date on which this Part comes into operation, within one month after that date.

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MY
COLD
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HANDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>16499434
https://torontogoldbullion.com/

shiny rocks good hyuk hyuk

>>16519772
The more they buy, the harder it is to keep cheap.

>>16519793
Are you sure that still applies? I'd have expected it to be superseded in the 1980s after the dollar was floated.

>>16519807
Thanks
>tfw buffalos are the cheapest way to stack but they are ugly as sin

>>16519963
It's currently suspended but the point is the legislation is there for them to enact if they so wish.

The law is pretty confusing. It states that I'm not meant to be able to buy gold unless the RBA allows it unless it is a legitimate part of my trade or in the form of jewellery, I think the bullion vendors get around this by selling Gold as legal tender (the coins) but that doesn't apply to anything that isn't a coin, yet I can still buy non-legal tender coins.

>>16519772
With the unlimited currency printing going on rn, we’re seeing that they can’t keep the PM prices low forever.

>>16507349
YOU SHOULD LOOKUP THE TAX LAWS ON SELLING BULLION AND CURRENCY. NOTHING THEY CAN DO IF YOU ONLY HAD 1000 FACE IN JUNK OR ALL EAGLES.