/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>16500575
Chart don’t give a fuck.

>>16500582


Screenshotting this


The best part, is none of you can find any of this when its out in the open if you know where to look

>>16500749
I want it to pump too but schizo posting won’t help

>>16500575
nice chink hashgraph clone

>>16500749
Tell me the fucking bank names

>>16500796
It's not just banks

And you have to wait anon

>>16500843
Join the fantom chad telegram

t.me/theREALFTM

White male chads only

We have also found a similar sized fantom project with one of the partners announced in 2018

One letter - T. for revisiting this in the future

>>16501030
Who the fuck is we you skizo dumbas? Join the telegram

>>16500749
Spill the beans faggot

>>16501030
Tosei? Old news dumbfuck you aren’t special

>>16500575
who cares if team holds 60%.

>>16501469
Team actually holds nothing retard

>>16501472
kek. , I bought at 130 and sold at 175.
fuck this scam

>>16501462
not tosei

>>16501481
Kek I bought at 120 and sold at 400 then bought back at 130.
I can't wait to see your seething screeching CHINK SCAM posts, you doomed buffoon.

>>16501821
enjoy your chink scam bags!

>it's one of these threads again
jesus christ why do you fags love attention whoring so much

It really is true that meming Link faggots have moved to Fantom.

>>16501507
WHO!??

>>16503985
Imagine still holding LINK like a fucking redditor.
Of course we moved on, I ain't watching another shitcoin bag bleed to death.
FTM will blow your fucking face off if you're not on board.
I'm thinking we reach a buck or two before I start unloading.

Been holding since april, my bags are not impressed.

>>16504290
cold hearted and dumping on reddit pilled.

>>16504290
>selling at $2
god you sold eth at like $50 didn't you

>>16500575
We dumping

>>16504804
its to get the niggers and pajeets out. HODL.

>>16504880
Im starting to think that ftm satsgang fud is real

>>16504909
>caring about imaginary pump groups rather than a projects fundamentals.

>never gonna make it

right now FTM is a better buy than LINK... compare the two marketcaps and you will see which one will profit more

its literally dumping

It's like fantom never got a good pump. Even the binance run couldn't excite me enough to sell. How is it so low?

tfw noticed the time on the alarm clock for the first time...

fantom apu gets to stay up two full hours past his bedtime. this means that fantom is digital good boy points that affords the hodler with SPECIAL privileges!

>>16500575
One of the most obvious scams in crypto. Chink team exit scammed long time ago. All you have left is a giant marketing department and some Russian temp devs. 300K TPS lie was their hook, line and sinker. ICO whales are preparing class action lawsuit. The whole scam is imploding...

>>16506523
you need new pasta schizo-bro. there's only like fifteen regulars here on /biz/ and we've all read this a hundred times already

>>16506731
Being an emotional investor, ignoring obvious reality and clinging to failed/scam projects, is a dangerous thing to do.

>>16506731
One of the most obvious scams in crypto. Chink team exit scammed long time ago. All you have left is a giant marketing department and some Russian temp devs. 300K TPS lie was their hook, line and sinker. ICO whales are preparing class action lawsuit. The whole scam is imploding.

>>16506771
i'm not selling my fanties

Desperate Fantom chills will get down like the ICX shillers on past rofl

>>16506808
holy shit rankeesh, you seriously need to tighten up those grammar skills. i can smell the curry, nag champa incense and stale body odor from here

>>16506791
I don't get it. I genuinely believe that Fantom is pure scam, borderline scam or just a really, really badly managed project that failed. I also explained why. Then you get an opportunity to invest in something that might very well be the Ethereum, MTV, by far the most undervalued project in crypto space and way, way below fair value, so instead of transitioning from FTM over to MTV, you FTM fanboys start to fud the project with lies and nasty comments, as some kind of revenge? Why on earth would you do that? First you miss an opportunity to a ground floor investor in something that could very well be the next Amazon/Facebook (without globohomo), secondly it gives a bad look for FTM when investors just lie and trash, thirdly, tech will (nearly) always win and your campaign and wasted time will have no effect even short term. It makes no sense to me. Unless the project is doing something really good for mankind and you know that this is not purely a financial investment, never be emotionally invested in any project. That's dangerous.

>>16506885
>-92.59% ROI

Get your pathetic chink scam out of here

Just buy FERRUM, retard.

>>16506900
This is what I am talking about:
>-92.59% ROI

When the fundamentals are there, great tech, great team, no hype and start of marketing very soon, this is a PERFECT business opportunity to be ground floor investor. You believe it is the opposite, a sign of scam, a ridiculous conclusion, and thus proves that you are a with-the-herd investor. Anyone getting real ROI in crypto was a contrarian going against the herd, not with the herd. Herd investors nearly never win and get rekt hard most of the time.

>>16506938
>-92.59% ROI
To use a recent example. Same with DAG just a few months ago (or actually, even worse). Way harder to analyse and find the fundamentals. I told people to invest, but far too many didn't listen and came with nonsense "arguments", substituting a positive with a negative, like you, exposing a total lack of basic finance analysis skills.

>>16506791
If FTM had managed to keep their promises with 300K TPS and timeline, then surely FTM would have been the the future global leader in a winner's take all market. But, everyone reading the whitepaper ought to be able to see that these numbers and plans were outlandish and only placed there to mislead investors. Even if they manage to have 30-40K, which I highly doubt, that is way too little and way too late. Ethereum is working on one ore more millions of transactions per second. 100K TPS is the bare minimum for global crypto, short to medium term. Long term million(s) would be the minimum. No crypto can beat this:
https://entethalliance.org/members/

Only crypto I can see being able to beat or compete with ETH is MTV, due to a smaller and faster team, great technology and that they can start from scratch, without having to deal with all the problems involving taking old tech ETH 1.0 over to new tech ETH 2.0. If FTM had managed what they promised, then clearly FTM would have been in this position. Sadly they are not, it would have been great for crypto space if they were.

yeah lets collateralize a scam coin (CUSDT) with another scam coin (FTM)

for sure it's going to end well...

>>16506900
If you like to follow the herd, then take a look at these investors. They are among the best in tech and know what they are doing. They will research the team thoroughly, their tech etc, before they invest. Kucoin, as independent third party, confirms that they invested 15M USD.
https://www.kucoin.com/news/en-token-sale-of-multivac-of-kucoin-spotlight-will-start-on-april-3rd

MTV was Kucoins firs IEO, and there is no way Kucoin would have taken the chance of destroying their brand name with having a scam as their first IEO. They obviously did a very thorough research of MTV's tech and team before launching.

MTV's current market cap of 2M USD is a joke and only reflects that the team has solely been working on tech and virtually noting on marketing and hype. This will change very soon.

>>16500575
>Its happening

you have to go back

kys

>>16506791
>>16506900
If I were you, I would have sold all or parts of my FTM position. Buy MTV and start to create awareness on biz and Twitter. MTV will easily 3x and you can then buy back your FTM position and have a 2x MTV bag for free or split with a 50% increase in your FTM bag and an similar MTV bag in dollar terms for free. Me personally would have transitioned completely over to MTV, but I understand that many of you still believe in FTM. If you ever manage to get 100+K TPS with Fantom, documented, then post it on biz and I will invest.

>>16506791
>>16506900
If I were you, I would have sold all or parts of my FTM position. Buy MTV and start to create awareness on biz and Twitter. MTV will easily 3x [1] and you can then buy back your FTM position and have a 2x MTV bag for free or split with a 50% increase in your FTM bag and an similar MTV bag in dollar terms for free. Me personally would have transitioned completely over to MTV, but I understand that many of you still believe in FTM. If you ever manage to get 100+K TPS with Fantom, documented, then post it on biz and I will invest.

[1] That's only very short term. I believe there is a very high probability that MTV will be a multi-billion MCAP crypto within 1-2 years.

>>16507333
imagine putting this much effort into fudding one single crypto. the fantom team should be paying you for this

>>16507362
>imagine putting this much effort into fudding one single crypto. the fantom team should be paying you for this
You don't get it at all. Crypto space must move very fast now, while we have the chance, so we become too big to regulate/ban. We need good tech and normie adaption fast. Which crypto will become the dominant market leader in the future, is secondary.

>>16507362
Cope. He is right

One of the most obvious scams in crypto. Chink team exit scammed long time ago. All you have left is a giant marketing department and some Russian temp devs. 300K TPS lie was their hook, line and sinker. ICO whales are preparing class action lawsuit. The whole scam is imploding.

>>16504753
Unironically sold at 3.60 and walked away

>>16503985
>It really is true that meming Link faggots have moved to Fantom
No.

>>16507719
Trust me many have...

>>16507730
Not enough to make it a general statement. Biggest players and vast majority did not. Confirmed by FTM's price action.

>>16507719
Yes

>>16507737
>11 posts by this id

>>16507866
It's crap person. He always does the same in Fantom's threads when he wants to sell that it is a scam and we buy his fucking crap from MTV cracks.
It's funny how your FUD was changing shape over time.

>>16507904
Duh, it's the schizo
>ICO whales are preparing class action lawsuit
My fucking sides

>>16507904
>>16507982
The first people in crypto did not do it for the money. Then we got people that did it only for the money, fair enough as they drive the tech forwards and push adaption. Now we have guys like you operating like football team fanclubs, pushing hype, hot air and full/borderline scams.

>>16507904
>>16507982
If you don't want invest in MTV, then don't. What do I care?

>>16507904
>>16507982
If you don't want invest in MTV, then don't. What do I care? You sound like the idiots I talked to before DAG 10x'ed in a bear market not so long ago.

>>16507988
>Now we have guys like you operating like football team fanclubs, pushing hype
It's a ftm thread you retarded schizo, go start a mtv thread to shit in. You keep trying to fud to the same 20 fanties every single day. What do you think you're accomplishing?

>>16508014
Aaaaand the DAG namedrop proving beyond a doubt you're the schizo shitting up this board, probably why biz is completely dead. I don't have all morning to spend on you again, try to take your meds

>>16507988
In the end, you do this for an ideology that involves throwing FUD to all potential projects, so that people never earn money, because the crypto should be the same as before?

You're crap, if that's the case. Several people need money, because our life is a fucking hell, thanks to ignorant people who vote politicians who have ruined our countries.

>>16508021
Thanks for confirming my comment.

>>16508031
>probably why biz is completely dead
That would be the braindead spamming of multiple FTM threads with zero facts/logic every single day.

>>16508033
>throwing FUD to all potential projects, so that people never earn money, because the crypto should be the same as before?
No. Not even close. Read my comments one more time.

fantom best coin. fudders will eat the cockmeat sammich. they will fomo into the top and pretend they were early buyers

>>16508046
You're literally lying to people about a law suit that doesn't exist (if you can provide a single shred of evidence I'll sell my entire ftm stack) and trying to fud a project with Russian devs when DAG won't even disclose a single dev
My sides

>>16508021
>You keep trying to fud to the same 20 fanties every single day.
Inept comment. Do you understand how information is spread within crypto community?

>>16508095
>trying to fud a project with Russian devs
Facts are not fud.
Fantom team 2018
https://web.archive.org/web/20181121021954/https://fantom.foundation/team/

Fantom team 2019
https://web.archive.org/web/20190714222227/https://fantom.foundation/team/

As most tech companies, Constellation have only key figures only on their internet site. Including lead dev.

>You're literally lying to people about a law suit that doesn't exist
How do you know moron. What do you think when you have a project underperforming with at least 90% of their main, and pretty much only, selling point? Only to see the Korean team they invested in disappear and be replaced by Russian temp devs? What do you think? ICO whales just shrug it off and call it a day? There is a reason why they have much money. Fatalism and enjoying being scammed is not one of them. So you idiot didn't even invest in DAG when you had it all on a silver plate? Why am I not surprised. Of course an idiot like you will miss MTV as well. A clearer and better investment opportunity, you can't get ever.

>>16508095
>if you can provide a single shred of evidence
>>16508163
>How do you know moron. What do you think when you have a project underperforming with at least 90% of their main, and pretty much only, selling point? Only to see the Korean team they invested in disappear and be replaced by Russian temp devs? What do you think? ICO whales just shrug it off and call it a day? There is a reason why they have much money. Fatalism and enjoying being scammed is not one of them. So you idiot didn't even invest in DAG when you had it all on a silver plate? Why am I not surprised. Of course an idiot like you will miss MTV as well. A clearer and better investment opportunity, you can't get ever.
...looks like he can't provide a shred of evidence. imagine my shock

>>16508163
Funny how you can easily look up the fantom team's past and present, huh? The DAG team could have been replaced 5 times over but we'll never know kek. Once again, look up the definition of a whitepaper you seething rerard. And I'm still waiting for an iota of evidence on that lawsuit, I'll check back later to confirm you have absolutely nothing

>>16508194
>...looks like he can't provide a shred of evidence. imagine my shock
Did you learn everything you know about normal legal procedures and preparation from comics and law TV? Have you had any contact with the real business world, ever?

>>16508199
Who cares? Don't invest in DAG, don't invest in MTV, continue to be a moron. You clearly enjoy it. No loss that nasty persons like you will not invest. Tech will win in the end, with or without you.

>>16508219
PROVIDE SOURCE LYING FAGGOT! THERE IS NO LAWSUIT

>>16508199
>look up the definition of a whitepaper you seething rerard.
Do you believe you can underperform with more than 90% regarding a key, if not the key element for investors, when those that wrote the whitepaper knew, or should have known, that those figures were all very misleading and borderline outlandish, without any legal consequence? Do you? Compare that to MTV, probably the best 10 000x candidate in crypto with a very competent team with zero hype. 2M market cap for MTV is severely under fair price and a 10x is more or less guaranteed with a very high probability.

>>16508408
your fud would be much more convincing if you weren't aggressively shilling other cryptos at the same time. i feel like this must be satire

>>16508446
Two sides of same coin. To further crypto space, we must get rid of dead end projects and projects that will harm crypto adaption among normies, other side of the coin is to promote projects that will fast and securely move crypto space towards mass adaption.

>>16508446
>satire
That would be mindlessly showing the ass to excellent investment opportunities while in a zombie like condition just endlessly chanting Fantom, Fantom, Fantom etc etc.

Rate (im white btw)

>>16508469
The problem is that you keep trying to throw FUD into a project that has already become immune to it.
The last FUD only took place for a few hours and everything went back to normal.

>>16508505
pajeet/10

>>16508514
"FUD" is not there to scare you, but to make those of you who can, understand what is going on when in the future you will see missed deadlines, revision of tech goals, weird partnerships from some of the most corrupt places in the world, etc etc.

>>16508517
Im white as snow they call me snowflake

>>16508514
>everything went back to normal.
No, not at all, just look at the price movements. Professional investors react very fast and abrupt to bad news. Retail investors are more emotional and reacts more slowly. However, their actions are exponential, so what starts like a small, nearly invisible movement ends up like a strong movement that only gains momentum until the price crashes. It has already started with FTM. Only way to stop it is to shock the market with better than expected tech, like 100K tps etc. But they won't.

>>16508630
Exact opposite with MTV, the momentum will only grow stronger and stronger.

>>16508630
Real world TPS is fucking low in every single project. Fantom only need like 20k. Isn't visa 5k? Fantom already has the high score. Hitting imaginary even 100k doesn't matter. Shits faster than nano and it runs smart contracts.

>>16508014
>If you don't want invest in MTV, then don't. What do I care
Is that why you spend literal hours a day in ftm threads shilling your shitcoin?
You have 26 replies in this thread, more than a quarter of the thread's total, you reply to the same posts multiple times, you unironically come across as someone who is severely mentally ill

Fantom just dunked on chainlink on the shill list, this is huge

>>16508988
Kek source?

>>16508707
VISA is calibrated for 60 000 TPS, not for micro-payments and not for the global population (only those with bank accounts, i.e. minority of popl). There is absolutely no way a crypto sub 100K TPS will be the universal global crypto for the future. That's why the 300K TPS lie from the FTM team was so important. From potential global dominance in a winner take it all market, to more or less useless.

>>16508773
>as someone who is severely mentally ill
OK, boomer.

>>16509250
Except there can be as many chains as necessary. Xar Africa, Xar Europe, etc. All interoperable and secured with FTM

>>16504290
This

>>16509289
They are promising total 40K TPS, I would guess that reality is way less, maybe 10K or less, with severe problems and constant crashing. Definitely with smart contracts.

>>16509250
Yeah that's still a deflection. You're saying every crypto is shit because it's not 300k tps. Fantom will have the highest real world results with smart contracts running. No one in this thread will name a running crypto faster than Fantom.

>>16509325
I know exactly what they are promising. Its 40-50k tps per chain, which are all interoperable and get secured from same supply so throughput is never an issue and each chain benefits.from the value.of.the token shared accross all networks. Opera with EVM may be slightly slower than cosmos stack. That remains to be seen but they are expecting 10-20k tps for.smart contracts and 50k for account balance TXs.

>>16509337
Having a crashed, useless product is a waste. Claiming that you have the very best crashed, useless product in the market does not help. There is a reason why ETH 2.0 is coming. Fantom was based on an insane lie 300K that everyone reading the whitepaper should understand was a lie, only to deceive investors. My guess is 5K TPS and 500 TPS with smart contracts. That's between 1-2% of promised TPS in whitepaper and ICO, pic. MTV migh pull it off before ETH 2.0, they have a high probability and if they do, they will get a multi billion market cap. If they are close to ETH 2.0 both in time and product, I guess there will be a split in the market where ETH will be dominant in the West, while MTV will be dominant in Asia, China. I don't see any future for FTM.

>>16509358
> Its 40-50k tps per chain, which are all interoperable and get secured from same supply
Will never happen. Just wait for weird delays and zero stress testing. Just some really high hype numbers, undocumented, with a network with zero load. Again FTM is coming with these outlandish claims. Absurd.

>>16506523
>>16506731
>>16506788
>>16506885
>>16507517

http://www.fantomnexus.com/
>the team exit scammed
Btfo

>>16509358
>Its 40-50k tps per chain, which are all interoperable and get secured from same supply so throughput is never an issue and each chain benefits.from the value.of.the token shared accross all networks
Where did they make these stupid comments, do you have the source?

>>16509423
This shame shoovac schizo is in fantom threads day in and day out. I honestly pray you don’t rope when this moons. $100 eoy 2020 go ahead and screen cap this smoothbrain. Fantom is an IQ test remember that.

>>16509325
Go make your own MTV shill thread faggot.

>>16509434
>Btfo
Are you stupid? To find team on http://www.fantomnexus.com/ and you get directed to fantom foundation, there the team will be with a totally new dev team, old team nowhere to be found, all Russian temp devs. What does that tell you? Plus key persons in management from ICO is gone. It's like a totally new project. Makes no sense unless exit scamming.

>>16500575
Buy Cardano

>>16509502
Kek

>>16509502
Why though? Fantom has better consensus and a lower MC. Seems like an easy choice to me.

>>16509486
Nice try you fucking trench brain. All you have to do is scroll down. Still low quality fud you seething kike. The CEO that "left" is right fucking there. Enjoy staying poor with your -92.59 shitcoin. Or buy fantom and live happy

>>16509486
That's a division of fantom geared towards the koream market you absolute retard.

>>16506968
DAG is a scam, was a scam, and will always be a scam. Are you proud of yourself for telling people to get into a scam project?
4 employees
$33M presale investment down the drain in 18 months
Cant hire more people, has to outsource development to Poland
Verified Satsgang members actually admins in telegram
Huge fake buy/sell walls disappearing, fully manipulated shitcoin scam

But it pumped, and for some reason nobody can find liquidity to get out. Wonder why? Because thats how pump and dump scams work you fucking dirt licking indian

Look at the etherscans, everything stuck in a huge wallet in SE Asia

How can i buy your scam bags you filthy indian fuck? I want to be poor too

>>16509260
Seek help faggot

One of the most obvious scams in crypto. Chink team exit scammed long time ago. All you have left is a giant marketing department and some Russian temp devs. 300K TPS lie was their hook, line and sinker. ICO whales are preparing class action lawsuit. The whole scam is imploding...

>>16509747
Not only that but they are building a blockchain. Fantom is going to be huge. How people still don't see this is beyond me.

>>16509774
Already blew this fud out of the water. Nice try though Ranjeesh

>>16509774
The only things imploding are your two remaining braincells

>>16509774

It's quite literally still not happening right now.

Still dropping i see. kek

Right now making 5 cents and holding it longer than a day would be a miracle. Bottom sellers are all packed in

No news no pump

>>16510431
Xar network is literally live and constantly expanding by the day.

If you aren’t buying rn you’re just a dumbass

>>16510473
BUY NOW BUY NOW TRUST THE POOP

Fantom is the Next ICX. If you think that I fud that to buy more you are delusional. I honestly want to same f you guys from financial ruin

>>16510567
>>16510737
You wish. Market buy. Clocks ticking

Imagine not having at least 100k suicide stack after browsing /biz/ daily

>>16510737
This is actually bullish

>>16510737
Icx went 200x first. We're gonna be filthy rich

>>16509018
>>16508988

https://coinshill.com/

>>16511740
Damn I can't wait for this shit to sky rocket. Just look at the proof. Fantom

Below 150 sats soon. Ready for the financially ruined threads?

>>16508988
checked, what is the implication of this? tranny coin is scam? fud is buy signal?

>>16511740
What does this mean? Does it scrape which coin is being shilled the most from all over the internet?

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA FOREVER POOR FUCKING REALITY AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY WHHHHHHHHHHHHHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY nigger nigger nigger its over

>>16512005
I don't really see how dropping 10% could "financially ruin" someone. Crypto is still in a bear market, so you can't really worry about the short-term price action. Fantom is going to be huge in the long-term, just have to sit back and wait. Comfy as fuck over here

>>16512067
dumping to zero today

>>16512041
Yes, go see the about page. It also takes into account votes and comments on each page

>>16512073
how many of them tranny coins do you have? 132k here

>>16512073
2$ EOY CAP THIS

>>16512489
$100 eoy 2020