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What's your answer to this?
>>16499017don't plan on making McDonalds a career. /thread you dumb nigger faggot kike
My answer is that those numbers are probably accurate.
Here come the corporate bootlickers
>>16499017How about a picture
money doesn't follow the gaussian distribution
I would rather starve to death than work at McDonald’s >>16499032I was gonna say here comes the FAGGOT but you’re already here
>>16499017That one employee is responsible for making a burger or taking an order. That one CEO is responsible for the welfare of the entire company and right around 1million employees. If you can't wrap your head around that, it's because you are too low IQ and will remain a burger maker/order taker.
>>16499017one is responsible for flipping burgers the other is responsible for managing one of the largest real estate companies on the planet. Nothing wrong with this and nothing to see here. Move along.
>Median employeeOnly responsibility is not losing his phone in the fryer>CEOresponsibility for millions of pajeet that don't manage to not lose their phone in the fryerThe answer is plane and simple, replace humans with machines in the primary, secondary and most importantly tertiary industry
>>16499017>There are currently 210,000 McDonald's employees in the world>If you divide the CEO's ENTIRE $21,700,000 salary by 210,000 it equals $103>which means that if the CEO were to sacrifice his salary for the sake of paying his employees better he could only afford to give them an extra $8.60 a monthYou can eat the rich, or you can eat their burgers and shut the fuck up.
>>16499017Executive bonuses can get out of hand yes, but take anyone from the bottom 80% workforce of MacDonald's, put them in the CEO position and the company would collapse. The CEO (and anyone else really) meanwhile could easily flip burgers. The capitalist system has flaws, but a MacDonald's employee can always save money, learn skills, and make shrewd decisions to escape these flaws. Complaining about a system makes sense in an authoritarian regime where you are disallowed social mobility, not in a capitalist system where literally anyone can, through their own will, advance and thrive. And that doesn't mean it won't always be easy, or equally hard, but that's just life. Nut up and shut up.
>>16499017thats pretty good.Higher the risks, higher the pay.A normal employee can be replaced easily, unlike the CEO.
>>16499017Is this total compensation or base salary (unlikely). Huge difference, granting him stock options doesn’t affect the value or salary of the employees at all.
socialists will ruin america.
>>16499055>McDonald's and its franchisees employ approximately 1.9 million employeesGet your numbers right anon. You have to count franchises too as they fall under the umbrella of the McDonald's main corp.
>>16499017the CEO can loose it all
>>16499032here comes that faggot that cant live on his own so he spends his life working for others and crying why hes paid so poorly. if youre low IQ you live a shitty life, thats how life works
What a bunch of litteral cucks in this thread.We have a name for these : Useful idiots. Keep defending your corporate overlords until they delocate offshore, keep lobbying for minimum taxes and shit while your living standard keep decreasing.But don't worry, you're right, you'll definitely win the increasingly screwed rat race and win over the others 50 millions idiots like you competing for scraps.
>>16499057>not in a capitalist system where literally anyone can, through their own will, advance and thrive.LOL
trick question, there is no question being presented by the picture
>>16499122>delocate offshoreHello low IQ burger flipper! Keep screeching about how you are getting screwed by the man while the rest of us prosper and make it!
>>16499101no what the fuck are you even saying
What's wrong with that? Inequality is natural.
>>16499122The problem is that McDonald's has too many employees, smoothbrain.
>>16499042That CEO is responsible for the decline of McDonald's these past 2 years. Lol. That bitch needs to step down, or share the wealth with the people at the bottom. The lack of care + inequalityy is a major reason why I haven't been to mcd in 5+ years
just 30 years ago one would think that the West won the cold war and that communism/socialism was a dead conceptTempora mutantor
>>16499149You obviously have no fucking clue what you are talking about. Guessing you are also a butt hurt low IQ burger flipper.
CEO has much much much more responsibility
>>16499149>That CEO is responsible for the decline of McDonald's these past 2 years. Lol. That bitch needs to step down, or share the wealth with the people at the bottom. >The lack of care + inequalityy is a major reason why I haven't been to mcd in 5+ years
>>16499192He has a comfy job and gets everyone to do things for him. His only actual interest is to inflate his own stock via stock buybacks and keep shareholders happy. That's it
No one is forcing you to work at McDonalds. That is my response.
If McD and other fast food chains offer:- organic grass fed beef- no growth hormones- no GMO- no hydrogenated oil in buns/sauce- no corn syrup in sauce- no preservatives/artificial coloringI would consider eating there again
>>16499017Easy, your salary corresponds to how many people in the world are capable of doing your job.Everyone can work at mcdonalds, but very few human beings can run an international global organization that creates the structured system that allows everyone to work at mcdonalds.
Average McDonalds worker is some part-time teenager, of course they ain't going to make shit.The CEO, their entire life revolves around it. Every action, every waking moment, they have to avoid fucking interns and making massive decisions. Plenty of difference.
>>16499017>What's your answer to this?McDonald Employe's salary isnt 7k per year c'mon dude. Other than that the CEO partTaxation a bit more?Wealth inequality is legit problem and It's highest that it's ever been to current times. I didn't agree at first when I was dumbass libertarian, after looking at what top economists had to say, apparently I agree. I think we can create a higher bracket of taxation and then tax them a bit more. Most of the money a lot of rich people have goes into assets, like houses, bonds stocks etc. All these assets are overprices and a lot of rich people still have a lot of money. Rich people's money grows exponentially, while poor people's wages have been stagnant. A lot of these idiots here are like 'HUR EMPLOYYEES DUM CEO GOOD"The truth is, we have to live in an environment where we give opportunities to everybody. A little more tax to give more opportunities to unfortunate/low IQ people is overall improvement to our society.
>>16499249
>Wealth inequality is legit problem and It's highest that it's ever been to current times. I didn't agree at first when I was dumbass libertarian, after looking at what top economists had to say, apparently I agree. I think we can create a higher bracket of taxation and then tax them a bit more. Most of the money a lot of rich people have goes into assets, like houses, bonds stocks etc. All these assets are overprices and a lot of rich people still have a lot of money. Rich people's money grows exponentially, while poor people's wages have been stagnant. >A lot of these idiots here are like 'HUR EMPLOYYEES DUM CEO GOOD">The truth is, we have to live in an environment where we give opportunities to everybody. A little more tax to give more opportunities to unfortunate/low IQ people is overall improvement to our society.
>>16499272Imagine being this much of a bootlicker, run along now kiddo, uncle Bezos's cock needs a good sucking.
>>16499017supply and demandlow level low IQ low responsibility burger flippers are in high supply and low demandhigh level high IQ high responsibility managers are in low supply and high demand
>>16499017?Mcdonalds workes are coddled. They work in AC they have rights
>>16499017That’s not accounting for the fact that the majority of people who work in McDonalds restaurants are part time and only work 2 shifts a week
>>16499249The only thing we need to fix is that i can be a rich man that buys a banana for 160k and then write it off my taxes when i donate it to a museum for 10x that amount.But again this money would just be wasted by the government giving literally braindead monkeys jobs so only if we cut down government jobs too.
>>16499289waaaaah im an incompetent useless NEET that brings nothing of value to the world. gib me money now waaaaaaahKILL YOURSELF
>>16499038I'm not a commie, I just think we should eat the rich because it makes me better off. Isn't that capitalism? You're a weak fuck that likes being treated like shit.
>>16499336capitalism is about private property"eating the rich" is about plundering
>>16499017Buy UPT, never worry about it again.
>>16499205For many, the option is low wage mcdonalds work or hold a sign in the middle of a busy intersection
>>16499301>But again this money would just be wasted by the government giving literally braindead monkeys jobs so only if we cut down government jobs too.Why are giving jobs to people bad? Would you rather them being homeless druggies who rob people at knife point? As long as they're doing their jobs that's better than nothing.
>>16499336>i just think we should eat the rich because it makes me better off. isn't that capitalism?
>>16499272Nice argument.
>>16499321> implying your not the sameok LARP
>>16499387oh yeah lets give 100% of our resources to the government so they can pay half of the population to dig holes and the other half to fill them up
>>16499017>1 CEO>$21,000,000>375,000 employees>$7000 each>$2,625,000,000Why are CEOs so under payed?
ITT: brainlets seething at the fact that they lost the genetic lottery. back to the fryer double digit brainlets. oh and i left a surprise for you in the WC go clean it up retarded wagie
>>16499390>i think we shouldnt eat the rich because one day I might be one of them! (you wont)
>>16499418>oh yeah lets give 100% of our resources to the government so they can pay half of the population to dig holes and the other half to fill them upWe don't do that though. Nor was that my argument.
>>16499122I’m already wealthy and you’re a fucking loser. Let me break it down for you:Say you drop the CEO pay for McDs by 90%. Congrats, you’ve just lost access to the best managers on the planet, but that’s ok. I’m sure someone who is worth $2m a year can’t be that big of a fuck up right? Wrong. There have been numerous instances where the top minds in business have nearly destroyed global titans with multi-hundred year corporate histories due to one or two very bad high value decisions. Then guess who else loses their jobs? That’s right, the 1million assholes who are making a lowly $7k a year from their part time fry cook job, plus all the land owners and managers and stock holders who are left out to dry. The economic implications of that $18m a year pay cut amount to billions upon billions in economic consequences. And what’s worse? The burden of these losses will inevitably be shouldered by the taxpayer in the form of social safety net liabilities. You’re fucking retarded.
>>16499423>if grog not top, no one get to be top. grog destroy society and plunges it to dark age cause grog not top. once grog go to top other grogs mad cause they not top so they destroy society again. all very tiresome for grog
>Man in charge of the worldvs>Idiot in charge of french friesLooks like it adds up to me
Mmmmm that's some good boot. Btw you're all retarded
>>16499321Whats wrong with that? Thats why we need Yang. NEETs need assistance as well
>>16499208GMO is actually fine. Better than the alternative which is drugs and pesticides. If genetic modification was more acceptable and prevalent, production would become safer in all respects and cheaper in the long run. The effects may even end up seeding new bio-technology in healthcare for humans.
>>16499122A sane post finally
>>16499482you have to go back retard
>>16499137Useful idiot.>>16499143Since when ?>>16499438(((Wealthy))) but basic uneducated fool spouting the low class neoliberal propaganda bullshit. >Teehee Let me cut you wages and put them even more in my pocket so you can keep your jobs, you would understand right ??Fucking retarded indeed. Hope you're at least really wealthy.Next time richies make the economy better for the common man instead of fucking him over for his own gain., please call me back.
>>16499446Show us your bank balance buddy. I'm sure you're living it up
>Hourly employee>Salary Don't they mean wage?
https://youtu.be/RY0R0NpIdQQthis video shows the difference in IQ between the "bootlickers" and the retarded commies/socialists in this threads.you're all losers and will forever remain that way, double digit IQ subhuman trash
>>16499137>>16499438Look at these fucking delusional temporarily embarrased millionaires kekyou sheep have zero evidence to back any of the garbage that ypu write
>>16499017>including part time workersgo start your own business, even entitled libtards can do it
>>16499017CEO salary seems too low, he deserves more
>>16499321says the useful idiot making 80k working 60hour weeks with 1 week of annual vacation
>>16499017Running a multibillion dollar global company is harder and more valuable than a lazy nigger or spic flipping burgers and cleaning toilets. Pretty simple actually.
>>16499017raise the minimum wage
>>16499673>raise the minimum wagethere shouldnt even be a minimum wage, if you cant bring generate enough value to make someone pay you a living wage the world has no use for you and you should die of starvation. simple as that
>>16499017Thou shalt not covet.
>>16499704You're never paid based solely on what you produce. There's always a negotiation. You're ultimately paid as little as management can get away with which is almost never proportional to the value you add
>>16499017>the fate of the entire company is on their shoulders>they're the face of the company and have to meet other crazy rich people>they're the first to get blamed if anything goes wrong if it the stock prices go down
>>16499017create A.I to automate the jobs of the 1.9 million employees, licence it to mcdonalds for 75% the annual cost of paying all those employees, let the CEO pocket the savings, corner the market on fast food franchise automation, sleep like a baby.thats my answer.
>>16499734>therefore they should be paid 300 000% what the worker doesJust listen to yourself
>>16499734>they're the first to get blamed if anything goes wrong if it the stock prices go downyeah, total bummer. if the board fires the ceo, I guess just walk away with $20mm and few million in stock bonuses and try to scrape by.
>>16499776The investors pay them that much. They don't kick open the company cash register and run off with the money you tardo
>>16499726if its a shitty min wage job that even a monkey can do at almost maximum efficiency sure, since the supply of unskilled labor is fucking unlimitedbut if its a skilled job there will always be competition. employers compete for high skilled labor which inevitably raises your salary to near the value you produce
>>16499802Yeah keep punching that straw man. You're sure to win in the end
>>16499814The investors want to make as much money as possible. if they could pay the CEO $0 they would.
>>16499808Yes, because high skilled labor are better positioned to negotiate and won't settle for bottom tier wages. How is that an argument against raising the minimum wage?
>>16499776yes. youre effectively the CPU of the entire organization. Most everyone else is at best an LED.
>>16499808>since the supply of unskilled labor is fucking unlimitedthat's not true though. nothing is unlimited, especially in more rural areas. but when corporations import millions of unskilled workers, well, you eliminate the ability of the unskilled worker to negotiate or retain any bargaining power. that's the entire goal and reason the border has remained unguarded for decades.
>>16499017>thinking a burger flipping nigger is worth anythingliteral 15 year old could do your job u stupid commie faggot the same goes every other minimum wage job. If u make a ''career'' over a minimum job u deserve everything to you ,useless faggot.
>>16499820CEO comp is set by the board of directors. Investors can vote, sure, but realistically there's only a handful of institutional investors with any real sway. You're deluding yourself if you think average joe picking stocks has any impact.I'm not sure why you're even bringing this up. The question is how you can justify paying the ceo 3000 times what the average worker gets
>>16499859>The question is how you can justify paying the ceo 3000 times what the average worker getsBecause they do a more important job/thread
The problem with all the arguments to the effect of "hurr durr it's capitalism, you're free to do what you want. Why don't you start your own business, muh bootstraps, lazy low iq etc etc" is that they are ignoring scarcity completely. It wouldn't be possible for everybody to start their own business or come up with a million dollar idea or successfully invest. Of course there is inequality like this because the system is based on inequality, and it has nothing to do with social darwinism or laziness or low iqs. Also you do realize a ceo of a huge corporation like this is doing very little actual work, right? He isn't muh small business owner, he isn't grinding everyday to keep his business afloat, he is doing nothing and letting people under him handle everything. If you are going to defend capitalism at least acknowledge economic reality and stop acting like it is a system where everybody can make it without being born into wealth, having connections, or being extremely lucky. You are all so deluded. Literal stockholm syndrome.
>>16499870>Of course there is inequality like this because the system is based on inequality, and it has nothing to do with social darwinism or laziness or low iqs. Wrong. Talent is not equally distributed. Nature is inherently unequal. Low IQ Africans will never be as successful as high IQ NEETs
>>16499869But why 3000 times? What justifies that exact number?
>>16499870>Source for all that rant:Straight outta my assCommies get the bullet nigger, its pretty simple or did u faggots actually think u could really inspire anyone at /biz/ of all boards.
>>16499017The median employee doesn't even work half as many hours as the CEO
>>16499894Actually, CEOs salaries are all over the place. It's not set at "3000x the lowest person's salary"
>>16499904>If you dislike powerful people exploiting their position you're a commie.Yeah, brainlet confirmed.
>>16499894value is subjectiveany more questions?
>>16499920See>>16499017
It makes me sad to read all the bootlicker comments. I make 200k so I'll be fine either way but I once worked at McDonalds and I know it's shit and I'd gladly help them hang the CEO, working class people deserve a more dignified life
>>16499894Because they can. In capitalism the people who have the capital make the rules and of course they're going to take as much as they possibly can get away with.
>If you dislike powerful people exploiting their position you're a commie.>Yeah, brainlet confirmed.
>>16499929Imagine you're climbing a mountain trying to reach some peak, but when you finally get there the view is shitty, you're freezing and wet and your only thought is that you regret even starting. That's how it feels talking to you people
>>16499957McDonalds employees should be happy they even have a job. CEOchads could just replace them all with machines
>>16499017They probably employ a ton of high school kids who work part time or weekends only which drives down the median. The CEO makes a lot due to economies of scale not exploitation. If you divided his salary by the number of workers they'd probably get something like 1$ one time a year.
>>16499965???
>>16499949Yes, that's right
>>16499971Whoosh I guess. Let me clarify: you formulate nothing. "Value is subjective" doesn't mean anything
If you want a serious philosophical answer to this question, I would refer you to John Rawl's two principles of justice, specifically the second.https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/rawls/#TwoPriJusFai
>>16499968If you divided up the CEO's Salary and gave it away each employee would get 57 extra dollars per year. If you include franchise employees it becomes $11
>>16499992>Whoosh I guess.opinion discarded, u have to go back.
>>16500006>Using common expressions makes you a plebbitor.Way to weasel out of a losing argument gramps
>>16499957i hope all corporations automate all their low skill jobs and the with the margin of profit fund death squads to put to death all thu unemployed. you arent entitled to nothing in this life
>>16499992I can justify why 2 + 2 = 4 but I can't justify why I fap to trapsbecause the first is objective and the second is subjective
>>16499042There are two problems with the original numbers. Firstly, the worker isn't working a full 40 hours per week because $7,017 is about $3.50/hour which is less than half minimum wage.As for the CEO's salary, that is excessive because large corporations in the U.S. grossly overpay their mercenary executives. If the CEO is that capable of creating value, why not pay him $600,000/year with another two million dollars in stock (no options)? It's because the vast majority of CEOs are very low quality managers and do not create any measurable business value beyond what any other person would create. The super performing CEOs: Steve Jobs, Mark Zuckerberg, Bill Gates, Howard Schultz, Fred Smith, etc., can easily become very wealthy by running a company very well and holding on to the equity.Remember that crucible of "great" management: General Electric? How's old Jackie boy and his cronies looking now after the shell games they've played have run their course and there is nothing left to plunder?
>>16500030Well, the beauty of the topic at hand is that we're actually discussing numbers; not your personal faggotry
>>16500013>implying that i was the guy u were arguing withway to out urself as a newfag aswell as R*dditnigger. maybe u should have noticed the Ids before you decided to come here thinking u would look smart infront of ur cockgobbling faggot friends in discord.
>>16500048You're defending the same position. And you're obviously very angry
>>16500042Ironically the only person CEOs often steal from is the business owners themselves.
>>16499017If you work at McDonald's, fuck you.
>>16499017Get rid of the Jewish
>>16500059>You're defending the same position.Theres nothing to defend when we dont really have any opposition, or did u really think u were gonna change the world any way coming here? if so you´re even more patethic than i imagined. Im just here to shitpost/baitpost as much as i can. Because this is a garbage thread that brings nothing to /biz/ and deserves it
>>16500075This
>>16500106So you're a grown-ass boomer trolling a business board. That's cute. >Because this is a garbage thread that brings nothing to /biz/ and deserves itIt's sad you'll never understand the irony in this statement
>>16500106Also: if you don't think discussing corporate governance is a valid topic it really reveals how little business experience you actually have. If I didn't know better I'd almost guess you've never even taken a business class... But surely that can't be right
>>16499776>>16499814>>16499894It's not the salary of a ceo is fixed. It's based on how much the company itself makes supply demand.
>>16500144>Everyone who disagress with me is a boomerWanna know how i know ur a nigger? U just dont see the irony in ur own posts, yet u keep trying to sound smart. Suicide im afraid is ur only option, newfag.Also check these trips.
>>16500047let's try this: what would be justifiable amount of money a CEO should earn and then justify your figure
Why is everyone just accepting the blatantly wrong median salary. I've looked around and cannot find anything anywhere near as low as $7,000. Where are you getting this info? Who is lying to you? The lowest I could find is $15,080 per year for Staff Member to $68,000 per year for Operations Consultant. And the CEO brought a $7.91M salary at the highest its ever been.
>>16500144You seriously sound like you're about to cry LMAO
>>16500168>Also: if you don't think discussing corporate governanceNOOOOO IM NOT A FILTHY COMMUNIST.BUUT BUSINESS SHOULD NOT BE PRIVATE AND BE ABLE TO CREATE THEIR OWN SYSTEM, IN THEIR OWN COMPANY>>it really reveals how little business experience you actually haveIt sure does zoomer, btw u have to be 18 to post here.
>>16500213No no no, the burden of proof is on you to justify the thing that is actually happening in the real world today (7k for worker, 21M for ceo). Let's not get sidetracked
>>16500243Hey another straw man. Guess that's your go to when you realize you're too dumb to go on
>>16500250since value is subjective, there is no way I can justify it
>>16500292Ah well, you tried.
>>16500275If u dont like ur job u are always free to quit. Minimum wage fools who can easily be replaced with machines arent exactly in any position to complain to the topman at the company. Why dont u take ur pointless arguments and shove them up ur moms hairy cunt.
>>16499017Stop jealous u fuckin fg . Study , work hard , think differently, network and make it like the rest of em , u dipshit..
>>16500305dang it! if only value were objective!!!! :-((((( I guess you win
>>16499017I just want my $1 McDouble I dont give a shit how much money any of them make.
>>16499017>low iq retards with barely any responsibilities should be paid even remotely as much as the fucking CEO
>>16499017the CEO deserves it for keeping this massive multibillion dollar organization running so they can provide steady, generous wages to the lazy retards they hire to work menial tasks on the front lines. those lazy retards on the ground should be thankful they have the opportunity to learn about the food industry and get paid for it.Not that those retards will ever be able to hold a real job anyways, most of them are inexperienced teenagers that produce at the same level as any adult working front line.
>>16500362>the CEO deserves it for keeping this massive multibillion dollar organization running so they can provide steady, generous wages to the lazy retards they hire to workRunning a company isn't hard. They deserve maybe 2x what I make at mcdonalds.
>>16500315>Minimum wage fools who can easily be replaced with machines arent exactly in any position to complain to the topman at the companyThat's the point isn't it. They would be in that position if we had a mandated minimum wage or unions (which I think is a worse solution). Don't be dense, I'm in favor of automation. If McD's or whoever decides that robots are cheaper than hiring people at higher wages then so be it, new jobs will be created. Trickle-up economics would fix this country. Useful idiots will make sure that never happens
>>16499017the CEO will make more than 21.7m to the shareholders, that’s all
the most obvious risk is that his ass is on the line if the company does some kind of serious mistake. rank and file employees just get fired, he could end up in jail
What’s the point of these threads? It’s mostly 5-10 of them in the week. All with some reddit tier pic or a platitudinous phrases and 150+ posts literally none of them worth the read. It’s like homeless crack addict discussing how to do open heart operations
>>16499423holy fuck you're retarded
>>16500369>Running a company isn't hard.why don't you try it out and see how that goes for you.
>>16500329Ok since you seem to need it, let me spoon-feed you. The board of directors make a subjective judgement of what numerical value should be put on the work the CEO does. However, when that subjective judgement produces results like 300 000% more pay for the CEO than the average worker we should question the soundness of that judgement. Like what influences them to decide on that number? Why isn't the CEO paid more in stock options which would incentivize him to do a better job? Does the CEO and other management influence the boards' judgement? Now here's the kicker: The value can be subjective, but that doesn't mean it's immune from scrutinyDo you follow?
>>16500432I didn't inherit money from the capitalist overclass so It's impossible for me to start a business.
>>16500417Communism doesn't just happen. It takes years of propaganda to work people up to the point of violent revolution.
>>16499017that's how much empoyees want to make. if they wanted more money, they would just become a ceo.
>>16500440>>16500369If you're going to gaslight you should maybe do it from another IP. Holy shit
>>16500465What are you talking about? You need to defend your views and stop making excuses.
>>16500478I am defending my views! Your views, however, seems to have done a 180 during the course of this thread. Hmm...
>>16500436Retard, did you read the SEC filing?Stock Awards: $5,301,249Option Awards: $5,318,329Non-equity incentive plan compensationAnnual: 3,473,925Long-term: 5,623,644The guy makes $1.3MM salary$10MM was equity/optionsLong term comp is $5.6MM, suggesting he doesn't have access to it now, probably a deferred compensation plan which is only accessible after retirement.That leaves $5,517,830 as possible annual dollar compensation.You're acting like that bullshit OP post isn't clickbait, but it is. Do the math yourself instead of believing "statistics"
>>16500436what do you mean from 'scrutiny'?
>>16500497imagine flexing closed-mindedness
>>16500497No you aren't
>>16499017I can tell you've either had no job before or have never held a position of importance. The CEO contributes a lot to McDonalds keeping the sails up and the ship above water. This is why he gets paid more than brainlettes ghetto niggers to remember the big mac sandwich assembly order. >Hi Welkum to MacDonnalds can I take yo Oder ?>Yes mam I will have a #1 with No Pickle >You sayd you want Xtra Pickle >No Mam No Pickle on the order >Okaay We can do that pull up to second window >I literally pull up >Here you go - Tyrone hands Lawanda my food bag >Coke is there >Fry oil has not been changed all week >Burger Lettuce is rotten >Extra Pickle >Poverty Wages >Fight For 15 You were warned to stay in school anon
>>16500616cringe capitalistThose niggers have very high IQs.
>>16499294based. if CEO was an easy or low risk job they could save a lot of money by paying less for someone else
>>16500629I once received a cheese burger which was contaminated with sheboon nigger hair. It wasn't even like they put it in there on purpose it was just poor nigger hygiene. >Fight for 15
>>16500542Ok so he only made 15M in comp. And his exit package was only 42M when he was booted earlier this year. I guess that's fine then, he's obviously paid what he's worth the same as the employees. Do you see how ridiculous that is? No wonder you have communists and socialists popping out of the wood-works.
>>16500581That's not the point. He's trying to make me (and the few on here who agree with me) look like anti-capitalist communists with his posts.
>>16500563It means saying that saying the value is subjective is not a justification in itself
>>16499017>looked mom I posted a commie thread on biz again XDDDDDkys
>>16499017it makes sense, you are just a worker, he owns the businessif u work for MacDonalds, suck it up.
>>16500792>the CEO owns the companyThere really should be age restrictions on this board
I love reading redditors complain how they can't take care of their 3 kids because people won't leave them tips.Imagine thinking you can afford 3 kids as a fucking waiter kek.
>unironically implying it's unfair that one of the single most important positions in a multinational megacorp empire is valued higher than each of the hundreds of thousands of anyone-can-do menial jobsLmao
>>16500959>Implying anyone says they shouldn't be paid moreIt not about more dummy, it's about how much more
>>16500792>he owns the businessStop posting selfies, fuckin retard
>>16500979As someone who actually worked a mcJob I can tell you 80% of people working there are complete fuckups, if you are someone who shows up to work everytime and can follow simple instructions you probably get the manager role super fast, that's how bad it is.
>>16499049not to mention median employee is part time and either a highschooler, a literal retard, or both
>>16501003If you pay shit wages you get shit workers
If we're gonna scrutinize McDonald's morality, I'm more interested in the fact that they're essentially poisoning their customers for profit.>inb4 durr what kind of biznez model poisons customers??!
>>16501021Now you're starting to get it. Same thing applies for CEOs retard.
>>16499017Friendly reminder that the founding owner of McDonald's wasn't in the burger business he was in the real estate business, that's why the CEO's are so fucking because of real estate investment you commie retard
>>16501062Now what is a shit wage for a CEO? 10M? 5M? How much more value can you extract from a CEO by paying him 20M as opposed to 15M? I know you think you're being clever here but it's not comparable
>>16501059>Eating fastfood at allU deserve to be posioned.
>>16501091If it wasn't for the CEO the business wouldn't exist and you niggers wouldn't have jobs
>>16499336lol if that was capitalism, "the rich" would have eaten YOU a long time ago
Fast food is gay
>>16501121Oh, look. Another retard>Implying anyone says we should get rid of CEO'sStraw men, straw men, straw men. Less typey more thinkey
>>16499387If your idea of a job is a bribe and busy work to keep people from fucking their lives up and hurting each other, why not just hand them free money? You're going to be making up bullshit jobs to keep everyone employeed anyway
>>16499017Thats normal
>>16499421>WC is this specific to a particular part of britain? or is it a bit archaic? I rarely hear it anymore
>>16500979>yfwAnd who are you to say what's fair? How much Mcdonald stock do you own anyway? A CEO position is not only ultra high stakes but also requires literally decades of experience and connections to be performed well. Only natural for it to be thousands of times more valuable than low end jobs that even a mentally handicapped teenager can perform.
>>16501163WC = Water Closet. Used all over Europe
>>16499122>offshore burgerflipping
>>16501146And this is why you will stay poor because you don't have the attitude of a rich person, all you niggers do is complain but never work your way up.All you do is work for money, the rich get richer because the have money work for them.So fucking whining and start working to learn useful professions in trade.
>>16501173>How much Mcdonald stock do you own anyway?Enough to care about the decisions they make>Only natural for it to be thousands of times moreWhy? There's nothing natural about it; these are decisions that are made. They can be made differently
>>16499589I think wage refers to your hourly pay, and salary refers to your yearly pay, whether you're "salaried" or not.
>>16501183You're just rambling man, take a breather jesus
>>16501216I strive to be a multi-billionaire in the future, I'm not going to complain about the rich because I'll be one of them
Here's a small tip for you guys. Any time a blue chip stock like mcdonald's goes down over some bullshit that doesn't have anything to do with the company, just buy the dip.This applies 10x when it's an airline and there is a scandal over some chinese doctor getting dragged from the plane.
>>16501195Yeah I'm sure you do. All the bigshot stakeholders redirect their complains to 4chan.>nothing natural about itSo "natural" is code to "agreeing with my naive ignorance"?Quit living on the moon.
>>16499826No one is really meant to work minimum wage in the long term. I mean you can, but you're going to live a minimum life regardless of minimum wage hikes.
>>16501233Having the force of personality to complain and take what you want is virtually ubiquitous in self-made billionaires. What you're talking about is slave-mentality. Keep your head down, do as you're told and don't rattle the cage etc. You're a pawn
>>16501265Believe what you want, not everyone on here is a NEET bagholder.
>>16501270>cagejokes on I'm not working in that cage anymore
>>16499870>a system where everybody can make it without being born into wealth, having connections, or being extremely luckycan you propose any system where this could be possible?
>>16499965yet here you are
>>16501303Can't help myself. One day the view may be worth it
>>16499026edgy
>>16501278Jokes on you I'm actually a software engineer and got guaranteed rising salaries and confy jobs for life. If bitcoin doesn't make me retire earlier. But keep crying on 4chan I'm sure that'll help your shitty prospects.
>replying to this thread and not sage-ing
>>16501179I know what it means, thought it was English-speaking specific though. Intredasting
>>16501351Congrats anon I'll soon meet you at the top soon
>>16499017one of them makes burgers, the other runs a company
>>16499017all of this anger is commling from a misconception of realityin the defence of the plebs this is the result of 2 to 3 decades of lies fed to them by every institution of power of them for their entire formative years, additionally from a societal point of view our current system is so fucking stupid it deservers the pitchforks and guilliotins it is going to getshort version every teacher from age 3 to 23 or longer told you education and a degree is a ticket to riches, it isn't and never wasour society values ownership en entrepeneurismour society is still largely free and fair because everybody is allwoed to start his own business, yes i am aware of growing regulatroy capture it is a problemthe current discontent is because taking a waged job is the same as selling yourself into indentured servitude, you are a medieval serf you will never amount to anything as long as you are a wagecuck, biz has been telling you this in memes for agesthe societal problem we have today is that too many people believe the lie and then at age 30-40 realize they are fucked and will be a slave the rest of their lives, this is really a big problemyou see the underclasses never matter, they don't start revolutions the competent middleclas doesand everything our society has been doing for the past 50 years is create conditions to destroy the middle class to the point where their only logical move is to burn civilization down french revolution styleso in conclusion the problem isn't ceo making a lot of cash, the problem is telling competent people starting as a mcd wagecuck will lead you to greatness eventually
>>16501419You have a point but if you are working a mcjob you are unlucky or a retard.
>>16501455The whole point of these easy fast food and retail jobs are because they are entry level and were never meant to be a long term source of income.
>>16501419Only boomers still believe in this shit
>>16501419To be fair this happens because the typical human being is hilariously gullible and self unaware. The average person adores some form of outliers (the millionaires, CEOs, rocks tars, or whatever) who are clearly not normal people or at least did not take a normal path through life. But simultaneously, the average person has a hidden obsession with being normal, doing normal things, taking normal decisions, mocking those who attempt stray from normality.
>>16501455>>16501498this is the point and the source of the problemthe average retard to whom this propaganda was targetted doesn't mattercause in point the average mcd worker isn't complaining about this after hours he goes to get wasted on cheap booze drugs, do some tricks with a 20 year old quad and fuck some trailertrash skankthe people complaining about this are the educated liberal arts pseudointellectual who holds himself superior over the common plebs, but sees he is as fucked as they arethat is what i am trying to say old societies tried to coopt the competent and intellectual of the lower classes into supporting the systemour current society is doing its very best to entice these people to start a revolutionyou must always give the competent part of your population wether high a low born a stake in the survival of the system or they will not support it
>>16499017start a company, work hard for many years and you will have great wealth around age 60
>>16501618start a company and pay taxes until you are 60then die
>>16501619if you can find purpose in life without working, more power to you
Just a reminder to the cucks trying to justify shit wages:Fiat currency is Babylonian money magic and is one of the most evil tools of the small hats.
>>16501635pay the taxes to meI will enjoy it
>>16499055based as fuck
>>16499017CEO is the bossbosses make more
>>16499122A man can give any other man whatever wage he desires, he is the one with the money. Quit being envious losercommunism and socialism is the ideology of losers
>>16499017McDonald's is working diligently to close this gap by replacing their "median employees" with computer kiosks and robotic arms that flip burgers. I, for one, would actually eat McDonald's if it meant I get a burger made by robots without having to make eye contact with a human.
>>16501662you misunderstand, i don't work myself.but i do understand that i won't be wealthy at age 60.still looking for meaning in life but i don't want to spend my best days working.
>>16499017I don't mind. McDonalds is a big company, and has a lot of money to go around; and wealth isn't a zero sum game. Those workers can get money without it coming from the CEO. It's not like these tax the rich and give to the poor policies are even directed at workers. The government gives all of that money to the welfare-class, and the workers have relatively little in terms of gain from the government.What's important is institutional changes that encourage people to develop their personal value and output, so that they can earn larger amounts. Education and apprenticeships are a big part of this. The goal shouldn't be to make McDonalds a viable career, it should be to make sure that people can get careers other than McDonalds.
>>16501562The people complaining are privileged as fuck, have terrible money management, went into debt to study some useless degree and decided they "need" to stay in the vibrant city where rent is $2k a month.
>>16501801I think in 20-30 years you won't need to leave your apartment ever, you get your groceries/food delivered on a driverless vehicle.
>>16501749>but i do understand that i won't be wealthy at age 60.What?Being wealthy by the time you're 60 is easy as fuck, just save 10% of your income or more + compound interest makes it a sure bet.The #1 thing for making money is time
>>16501749watch Cosmic Disclosure
>>16499017>buger flipper = job that literally anyone can do>CEO = job that almost no one can doIf only there was some fundamental principle of economics that could explain why the market for a position with an extremely limited supply of candidates could settle at a high equilibrium price for labour.
>>16501153Obviously the other guy was being fallacious. Government jobs aren't wasteful money. Other than that I am actually for UBI.
>>16501856>just save 10% of your income>incomelike i just said, i don't work.>>16501863how come?
>>16501950to find meaning dipshit
>>16501964ok, that doesn't say much.why so aggressive?
>>16501986excuse me, I just have balls
>>16501995have a good evening.
>>16501950>i don't work.How do you eat then?Save the pennies your parents give you then. I saved $20k as a neet in 3 years.
>>16499017literally don't work at mcdonalds, it's for kids retards and immigrants who havent learned english yet
>>16501911The problem isn't if a person can do that job or not, the problem is if CEO's should be able to get 20+ million dollars while low income people have a had time passing by. Wealth inequality has proven to cause a lot of issues and we're at an unprecedented levels.
>>16502077What about people who couldn't afford university or college?
>>16502016i cant even save 20k as a retail wage cuck in 3 years
>>16499017Retail workers are genuinely expendable. Don't complain too much or they might just decide to replace you with a few lines of code faggot
>>16502089>Wealth inequality has proven to cause a lot of issues and we're at an unprecedented levels.>unprecedented levelsNot really, things have returned to what they normally are after a period where people tried real hard to make everything as level as they could. But in general things like to do 20/80s that is, 20% doing 80% of the work, only needing to know 20% of the openers in which 80% of the people will use in chess, ect. Fighting nature isn't worth while, you have to work around it or your system based on fighting nature will eventually loose out and collapse.
>>16502089The poor today live much better lives than the middle class 50 years ago.
>>16502304This. Most people in the West today don't appreciate the quality of life they already have
>>16499199>comfy job>keep shareholders happyShould the King not keep his court happy?
>>16499199Making lots of money is all shareholders care about. The dumbasses working the grill can't even manage stacking some bread, meat, cheese, and vegetables without forgetting to add things. They can't even stack it up without being askew by >30%. Honestly for $7k they are grossly overpaid for what they do and their poor performance.Besides that you're comparing a guy working 84 hour weeks to some teenager doing maybe 16 hour weeks.
>>16502089cry about it nigger, it's the free marketthe CEO is worth their pay whereas the average retail wagecuck is probably still overpaid at minimum wage levels
>>16499017McDonalds has no right to exist
CEOs are overpaid and over-glorified. but even if we cut their salary in half it really would make no difference over what the rest in the company were paid. there are 2 million mcdonalds employees, distributing that salary over them would be another $10 a year. lol.
>>16499017Stop eating McDonald's en masse and put an end to this garbage company.
>>16502360How is the quality of life better? Because there's more technology and convenience? That doesn't make it better. The cost of living, the value of the dollar, and the upkeep is much more complex than it used to be because life wasn't a rollercoaster in the 50's. 15% of a family's income annually was enough to pay for their kid to go to college. Today it's at around 80% of their income to pay for their kid to go. The food quality was better then because there wasn't as many additives in what people ate as there are today. Years and years of chemicals being applied to fertilizers all across America and other parts of the world and the emerging fast food industry changed the landscape of health. Look at what people looked like in the 50s and look at what they look like now. Obesity to the moon. The poor still live in the same conditions. More people, more competition, and less to go around. Quality over quantity is not a priority anymore.
>>16502304>>16502360this is really very distortedpoor people today are worse off then the 50's not because now we have ipads and they had newspapers, but rather that the security of your station in life is today very fragileeven with better material conditions a single accident or health issue could make you unemployed and bankrupt and living on the streets, back in those days even after an emergence getting a new job was easier and less dependant on previous experiences then todaybetter healthcare exists but only if you can afford it so evne here the tech advance is limited for poor peoplethe only real improvement for the underclasses compared to the 50's is in workplace safety regulations and understanding of the dangers that vapours posebut even on a more macro scale material welbeing is meaningless for most peoplehuman societies are deeply entrenched around relative level of social standing, this isn't even limited to humans you can see the exact same thing in monkeytroopsthe top alpha monkey despite living in a tree is living a relative better life than a poor fucker in a human megacity, can even be measured in stresslevels, premature aging, life expectancy etc
>>16499017Good for the CEO. He deserves his salary. Poorfags will never understand
>>16502580>15% of a family's income annually was enough to pay for their kid to go to collegesupply & demand. only reason is the population was less than half as big as it is now, and we don't need 150 million more lawyers.> food quality what a meme. Selection is 10 times higher now. quality control processes are much better. those 'chemicals' aren't hurting you, but you're free to buy local if you care. Obesity is caused by eating more, jesus. Just don't eat more.
>>16502299Seems like I am not wrong on the fact it's highest that it's ever been. The chart also kinda proves my point.You're comparing a time when a lot of monopolies like oil, car and phone industries existed and had to be broken up because there were a lot of wealth inequality. I am also curious on if this includes stocks CEO's are paid even more with stocks and stock buyback programs, since wealth is calculated different than income. >>16502304In some cases maybe in other cases no. Housing, education, even vehicles are much more costly compared to 1970's. inflation adjusted. Another fact is average wages have gone down. Here are inflation adjust of pic>New House: $192,093.35>Average Income: $71,325.79 per year>New Car: $20,194.57>Rent: $974.94 per month>Tuition to Harvard University: $16,573.99 per year>Movie Ticket: $8.86 each>Gasoline: $2.66 per gallon>First-Class Postage Stamp: $0.58 eachIt's kinda shit to say "you shouldn't be able to afford housing, healthcare or kids education because the wealthiest would be able to buy more stocks with their money">>16502499"it's the free market" isn't really an argument to afford basic things in life. After you grow out of your libertarian phase, you learn free market isn't a perfect system and that's why we need regulations or government programs to safeguard these issues. There are a lot of factors that aren't calculated and sometimes that causes problems.
>>16499026Its a pyramid scheme with all businesses, faggot. Stop trying to make it seem like these situations are rare, retard
>>16499105Most jobs dont pay enough to live off of, you faggot bootlicker. A system that fucks the MAJORITY over is a failure, dumb mother fucker. If you were black and born when blacks were slaves, I bet youd be the type to dickride your masters LMFAO. The absolute state of cum munchers
>>16502706>dont pay enough to live off of,then why aren't you dead?
>>16502725Cause of my parents, dumbass. Most people have to live with others companion, friends, family, and strangers) to survive in this shithole. Id be homeless with my job if it werent for them.
>>16502759have you tried working 40 hrs a week? having a roommate is pretty normal if you have no skills, or even if you do.
>>16502777Youre a dumbass. What part of 30% of jobs pay hardship wages dont you get? And no, im not moving in with a bunch of faggots. It is total retardation to accept this as "normal". Talk about stockholm syndrome LOL
>>16502789travel to any country and yes you'll find people living with their families is normal. its only recently that people thought that uneducated morons with no skills deserve their own mcmansions at age 20. why not build your own?
>>16499017One is paid by hours and another is paid by results, completely different things.
>>16502824>travel to any country and yes you'll find people living with their families is normal. You are such a retard. I am WELL aware about 50% of the world live in 3rd world countries. That is NOT normal. Youve just been INDOCTRINATED into being a bootlicker and thinking "this is just how it is" instead of thinking "this is how it should be". >its only recently that people thought that uneducated morons with no skills deserve their own mcmansions at age 20. Dumb mother FUCKER. When the FUCK did I say I wanted a mother fucking mansion? I actually would have been fine with a 214sqft home>why not build your own?I dont have land, dumbass. Every piece of land is located far from actual society. Seriously. Imagine sucking so much DICK as to think it is fine that the elite have total control over this country and that you shouldnt be allowed to have a roof over your head unless you conform to them. What a sperm chugger AGAIN, dumbass. The fact that the majority of people are fucked signals a FAILURE >inb4 "dur hur as long as a tiny percent succeeds, the system is fine!" imagine being this stupid and indoctrinated
>>16502856i bet you vote for mass importation of cheap labor LOL
>>16502824>serfs are a good thing since that was normal in the past LOOOL by that logic, if it was "the norm" for 99% of people to be slaves, that is a-okay since "it's always been a thing".KEK!!! The absolute state of deepthroaters
>>16502902Read >>16502919:) Youre a moron. Youre also a moron for thinking I am 100% open boarders just because I dont chug down employer cock like you do. Kek!
>>16502919I make more money than 80% of people, if that makes me a bootlicker then i'm okay with that.
>>16502943Not an argument towards what I said :)The system is still a failure. Just because a small % succeed doesnt make it "great". VERY short sighted.
>>16502958you didn't make an argument. you just said cum guzzler a dozen times."muh system"
>>16499208The majority of McD customers don't care about that shit, they just want something that fills them up
>>16499032>here comes the government bootlickers
>>16499129kys
>>16503012False. I said this system is shit because most people fail at life. Fact1. Discouraged workers (someone that wants a job, but gave up and hasn't applied in over 4 weeks) are NOT counted as unemployed2. People who make HARDSHIP wages ARE counted as employedPutting those 2 together = makes the unemployment stat look better/lower than it actually is. It is a lie that fools without critical thinking believe44% of 22-27 yr old college grads are underemployed (inb4 just do computer science as if everyone is capable of that. Even they have like a 24ish% underemployment rate for 22-27 yr olds: https://www.newyorkfed.org/research/college-labor-market/college-labor-market_compare-majors.htmlThink about that. NEARLY 1/4 cs graduates aged 22-27 will be underemployed (don't know how it evens out over time. Still not amazing though. It's around 34% when including all ages and all majors). Also 1/4 college grads make highschool wages.7/10 graduate with 29k+ in debt.78% of full time workers live paycheck to paycheck (*LITERALLY one paycheck away from homelessness and that is basically poverty*).*42% of americans will retire broke* (so you give up the best years of your life being someone's bitch just to retire with nothing),57%of americans can't afford an unexpected 500 dollar bill,50%of renters are cost burdened (spend over30%of their income on rent. Half of those spend over50%of their income on rent),30%of metropolis city jobs (where most jobs are created) pay hardship wages (not enough to move out with) and32%pay livable wages (basically poverty) which leaves38% that are decent (I say decent because you also have to take into consideration the toxicity of work culture. Also, some jobs ONLY pay livable or up BECAUSE of the hours put in. For instance, the average american works 47 hours a week. 49% work 50 hours or more a week. Both of which inflate the wage stats into looking better than it actually is),etcWelcome to the "land of opportunity" (load of bullshit)
>>16503012Only a total RETARD thinks this society is fine and doesnt need improvements after the stats I mentioned (and there obviously more stats I can cite if I really cared enough, but I just use general big picture stats as they actually paint a picture of how people are doing unlike when dumbfucks say "gdp is up!" which doesnt actually tell you SHIT).
>>16503038>>16503048Kys >>16503067Stats btfo you indoctrinated sheep. Main issue is real estate. I dont mind free markets. They are a HUGE issue when done on necessities (essentials for survival such as a roof over your head). Luxuries are the ONLY thing that should be a part of the free market. This country is a shithole mainly because real estate is a for profit business. >onb4 closed minded retard calls me a "commie" kek
The amount of corporate bootlicking here is disgusting. I'm glad I was born in Europe and hope that Bernie gets the nomination. The US is a fucking corporate hellscape.
>>16503100fyi, third post reference is me referencing myself. Noting that because retards sometimes get confused and think Im talking shot to myself (which makes 0 sense).
>>16503080so are you going to make everyone rich with communism?
>>16503105Ya. Mammals for you. Mammals are sheep. Weak people tend to fall for Stockholm syndrome a LOT. It really is sad. This is why most human beings are trash. Smart enough to do, not enough to think.
>>16503109when did I say that? :))))I CALLED it. I KNEW you retards would say "c-commie!!!". kek. Read: >>16503100Note. Im not saying the homes should be "free" either. Homes should be priced enough to break even.
>>16503131>i'm not a commie I just think 90% of the economy should be commie
>>16499894He gets paid more because:>higher skill level>low supply>The amount of damage a bad CEO can cause is extremely high compared to an ordinary employee, so investors will pay extra to maximize the chance of hiring a competent CEO that won't run the company into the ground, just like how some of us may pay more for known brands instead of unknown/generic stuff
>>16503147>90%real estate isnt 90% of the economy, brianlet. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL even IF it were, the fact of the matter is absolute essentials for life shouldnt be for-profit businesses. Absolute retard.
>>16499017i don't see a single problem here
I have a question:Why are there fucking commies on a business and finance board? You all obviously have no knowledge or interest in economics, free markets, or capitalism, so how the fuck did you get here and why are you still here?The only good commie is a dead one, I hope America bombs the shit put of you
>>16499017That top level employee salaries should be limited to a multiple of the lowest paid full time employee. Around 40 to 50x.
>>16499208no onions in sauce packets
>>16503185>inb4 you yourself don know shit about how the economy functions but just are pretending you do to gain leverageshut the fuck up. Also, dumbass, not wanting things needed for survival to be made for profit isnt a "commie" thing, dipshit. Making healthcare and homes for-profit is actually what leads to the immense corruption in the u.s., mother fucker. It is unethical.Luxuries on the other hand can be priced at whatever for all I care. How cheetos can cost 1 mil a bag for all I fucking care, but when it comes to things that affect my survival, you better rest assured thats gonna piss me off for being corrupt, mother fucker bootlicker.The REAL question is why did so many cum munching bootlickers infest this board?
>>16503185>CommiesBud, the Commies died a few decades ago. There is currently no real threat to your masters system.
>>16503171oh so you're saying you can afford housing then already.
>>16499049hopefully she replaces 20% of those shit-for-brains criminally low IQ employees with robots
>>16499017Seize the means of production. Take the deep fryer home, and sell french frys out of my basement like a true capitalist.
>>16503162>CEO's>SkilledWhen will this meme end?It's on par with the idea, that the king was appointed by God.
>>16499129>ignoramus who doesn't understand that sub 83 IQ people are too stupid to accomplish anything other than collect welfare and reproduce
>>16503218Hello you stupid fucking retard, if you want socialist healthcare and housing, leave the US, none of us want you.American superior healthcare tech came from capitalism because, and this is gonna blow your mind: the best doctors want the highest pay. That's why our healthcare is superior and that's why it's expensive. As for property, if it can be owned, it is an asset and is subject to the free market. High demand property costs more, what a fucking surprise. How the fuck do you think housing is built? It takes work, it takes materials, it takes MONEY. Who the fuck is going to pay for your housing? The state? Hope you're ready for minimal ammenities, repairs, and maintenance because that's what you get when you give 0 incentive to the market.Fuck you you worthless piece of shit. I hope you die in the streets.
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>>16503292>IQ meaning anything>Highest IQ individuals sit around and play chess, and have difficulty establishing normal social relationships and networks, which prevents them from ever getting jobsLOL
>>16503304CEO's are not anymore inherently skilled than burger flippers.Posit something they are skilled at..... Embezzling money? Cocktail smoozing? Using loans to buy back stock?
>>16503275Back up your argument that CEOs are not skilled. If CEOs are not skilled, then why didn't the stockholders pick some random faggot who would be willing to do the job for minimum wage?
>>16503301>How the fuck do you think housing is built? It takes work, it takes materials, it takes MONEY. Who the fuck is going to pay for your housing? The state?oh my GOD, youre illiterate. I answered that. >>16503131the bottom, RETARD. PEOPLE should pay enough to cover material and labor costs. Imagine not being able to fucking READ. Retard.As for the healthcare thing, what the fuck makes you think we have the most superior system? Cite a source. Also Fyi, we are the only 1st world country without universal healthcare. Get fucking destroyed, bitch. You went on a giant rant making basesless assumptions (u.s. having the "best" healthcare and healthcare system despite it financially fucking people and making them into super debt slaves even those with insurance) and failing to read how I said people should pay for it individually, not the fucking state, assclown. Get fucking btfod, bitch. Kys
>>16499017The point ends on itself.One gets paid more than the other.
>>16503460FUCK!!! MCDONALD'S IS AFTER ME GUYS THEY CAUGHT ME SMUGGLING BIG BACKS TO MY COUSIN TARRENCE !!!!
I just want fast food joints to be run by efficient machines, not retards. They're paid far too much anyway and it's a good thing they're being replaced. They should be thrown out onto the street.
>>16503559I bet youre one of the fatasses from those cringe vids that throw tantrums over their burgers not being perfect enough kek
>>16499017Salary is low because everyone and their mom wants to work at McDonalds.
>>16503396why the fuck would I read the rest of your retard gibberish? I just walked into a bunch of socialist retards jacking off about universal healthcare and free housing. you address nothing and pretend that you're right>btfodon't make me laugh. your kind has always been a worthless dredge on society and you will die poor and homeless as the free market rightfully dictates.
>>16503724>why the fuck would I read the rest of your retard gibberish?Ao you critique me without reading my points? Plus it was just one fucking sentence. LOL down syndrome incarnate.>I just walked into a bunch of socialist retards jacking off about universal healthcare the u.s. is literally the only highly developed country without it, dumb mother fucker cum chugger >and free housing. I didnt say that MOTHER FUCKER. LOOL this dumbass bitch. I explained it in such a way a 5 yr old could understand and you STILL think I said "free". Jesus christ. Dont reproduce.
>>16503559oh man can't wait until we have a bunch of uneducated teenagers (and others) on the streets wanting a source of wealth. There's no way anything could possibly go wrong. Surely they'll just lay down and die and not start stealing from the wealthy.
>>16503724What exactly is your job? Going to your lack of critical thinking, I am surprised you are capable of breathing
>>16503784*by your
>>16503773>>16503784you responded to me you dumb cunt. universal healthcare is chronically fucked if you value time and efficiency. I'm not interested in getting waitlisted by a bunch of commie bureaucrats when I'm bleeding out so they can keep their trash healthcare system. Ours works perfectly fine, unless you're a povery monkey like you I guess. I understand retards like you are incapable of critical thought beyond gibsmedat, but it looks like you can read, which is surprising for a poor worthless faggot, so you might eventually figure out that you don't know shit.I work in investment banking by the way, I'm guessing you're a burger flipper? No wait, amazon picker. Ah who cares, you're a bottom feeder either way.How do you feel about bankers? I bet you love to jack off to thoughts of 'winning' against your perceived oppressors. Clearly you can't win by arguing so I guess you can fantasize about the a revolution lol. You truly are pathetic.
>>16499122The term "Useful idiots" has always been used to describe communist traitor like you. There's two types of people, those with integrity who'll fight unfair and irrational criticism no matter who it's directed against and socialists believe in "the end justifies the means." Someone with the responsibility of managing a massive corporation should get a high wage. With the GDP per capita in America at 59000 per year, you should have no problem getting enough of that money to live well-off, unless eurocuck or CanUCK. This isn't the case for 6 billion people.
>>16504300>bankerthat explains everything. Im at work now so I cant really destroy your anus anymore
>>16504300Also fyi, loterally nothing you said was a counter argumentalso:>you responded to mewhy the fuck even mention something so pointless?
>>16504300Wait. Last response for a while. Your a dumbass if you think my idea is unrealistic. Never heard of no profits like habitat for humanity? They arent common enough. They dont quite do things the way I think is ideal, but its working. Again though, not common enough. They make cheapish homes for low income people. You being too retarded to think something is possible doesnt make it impossible, dipshit retard mother fucker
>>16504394>why the fuck even mention something so pointless?because why the fuck would I read your dissertation if you responded to me? not worth my time.>>16503185this is me