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16486276 No.16486276 [Reply] [Original]

Have you seen the velocity of the United States Dollar lately? It has been going way way down.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/M1V
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/M2V
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/MZMV

If you don't know what velocity is check this out here:

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/v/velocity.asp

What does this mean? It means that the dollar is about to get stronger than anyone has ever seen before.

Are you ready for this?

>> No.16486325

>>16486276
King dolla is getting crushed due to unlimited money printing.

>> No.16486362
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>>16486325
Actually they have only printed up 1.74 trillion. That's only 225 per global citizen. The rest is all digital. Looks like the floating currency regime infected your brain. Come back home anon.

I hope you make it through the detox.

>> No.16486416

>>16486362
>only printed up 1.74 trillion.
Choke yourself Private Pyle.

>> No.16486665

>>16486416
It's true. See for yourself:

https://www.federalreserve.gov/faqs/currency_12773.htm

You have been misled that they keep printing.

>> No.16486671

>>16486276
why are there so many malicious shills on this board

>> No.16486681

God damn fucking schizo retarded posters. Anyone who shills against the USD on reddit or here is a 90 iq moron who will stay poor forever..

>> No.16486682

>>16486671
please shill us your shitcoin that lost 70% value in 2 months instead pajeet

>> No.16486688

>>16486362
Shut the fuck up about physical notes you fucking retard. You post this in EVERY THREAD.

>> No.16486714

>>16486688
Because it is true. Also, the truth is that the USD is on the cusp of hyperdeflation. The currency isn't moving because people aren't spending. While debt runs a muck in the digital world the currency itself is being hoarded. This is long term bullish for USD. Not to mention we are only 106 years into this financial regime. We have about 144 years left before this thing is even remotely close to dying.

>> No.16486725

>>16486714
The USD is literally the world currency and guys who live in their basement and never had a job talk shit about it kek.

Try explaining how the USD sucks to anyone in China or South America.

>> No.16486731

>>16486276
>>16486671

JPY you fat cucks!

>> No.16486738

>>16486416
This lmao

>> No.16486757

>>16486725
>The USD is literally the world currency
I don't think many have let that sink in too deep.

>> No.16486773

>>16486714
> USD is on the cusp of hyperdeflation
>people aren't spending
>a muck
>muh 230 year cycles

Kill yourself right now

>> No.16486784

>>16486773
250*

>> No.16486794

>>16486773
Crypto really should have went with "In God We Trust" instead of "Vires In Numeris". Too late now. Hope you make it anon.

>> No.16486802

>>16486276
If the dollar gets stronger then the US can't service it's interest payments. They will just print it down bud, the fed is already talking about targeting higher inflation

>> No.16486841

>>16486802
You're still stuck in the floating currency meme. You have two options:

1. Get cash now
2. Be part of the digital collapse

Your choice really.

The only reason why they are targeting higher inflation is because the deflation is already here.

>> No.16486855

>>16486757
23 trillion in debt not including unfunded liabilities, endless money printing and REPO markets attempting to save failing banks. World reserve currency indeed. Don't even get me started on the missing $21 trillion at the Pentagon.

>> No.16486872

>>16486794
Go suck bankster cock elsewhere

>> No.16486877

>>16486855
The debt is digital. What happens in the floating currency construct only affects those still living in that construct.

Remember only 1.74 trillion in existence. Many left decades ago and already started planning for this very moment.

>> No.16486878

>>16486276
>It means that the dollar is about to get stronger than anyone has ever seen before.
Wait, people here are saying the dollar is about to pop and only metals and crypto will survive?

>> No.16486905

>>16486878
I know right?

>> No.16486912

>>16486878
>>16486906

>> No.16486924
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16486924

>>16486276
Stop your retardedness now!
MSM shill

>> No.16486938

>>16486924
Murica.

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>>16486276
whatever.

>> No.16486963

>>16486924
Not a single person is holding cash 100 fucking years you retarded faggot. Your shitcoin does 100 years worth of loss in 1 month.

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>>16486924
Even Bitcoin velocity mimics USD velocity. Why? Because it is directly tied to it. That strength oozes out into everything it touches.

IN GOD WE TRUST

I'm sorry the world didn't turn out the way you thought it was going to. Fortunately for us it wasn't left up to you.

>> No.16486979

>>16486958
Holy sit.

>> No.16486982

>>16486924
that chart is literally retarded. inflation is meaningless unless you also chart it relatively with the average wage. Just because people 90 years ago could buy a cheeseburger for a nickel means shit if their wage was 1 dollar. Seriously how fucking dumb you boomers are

>> No.16486984

>>16486276
Very interesting how people start sucking the dollars dick the moment they started seeing the (((repo))) market.

>> No.16486990

>>16486971
You're smokin banana peels.

>> No.16486997

>>16486714
>a muck
Phrases like this are a diamond a dozen

>> No.16486999

>>16486963
You just don't get it do you. Digest this and then get back to me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISfIT3B4y6E

>he still doesn't understand why it is called "you"tube

>> No.16487001

Doomers are so fucking stupid lmao

>> No.16487020

>>16486984
It started in 2008 and you just never realized it because you were blinded by greed. May be too late for you now.

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>>16486963
> sees value of dollar decline 99% over 100 years.
>argues no one holds cash that long
Brainlet basement dwelling MSM shill detected
Exterminate!

ps faggot not 1 kwypto owned. Au / Ag all the way
KYS

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>>16486958
Literally this. Imagine holding fiat as the world collectively pamps all the assets

>> No.16487037

>>16487020
What are you saying here anon. This isnt spooky for me. I'm very and very prepared for deflation or hyperinflation suck dix

>> No.16487041

>>16487023
Your zerohedge tier posts are even worse than MSM

>> No.16487051

>>16487023
It's trivially easy to beat inflation, even a fucking savings account will get you a few bips. Go suck Mike Maloney's dick some more

>> No.16487070

>>16487051
Muh savings account pullin .5% interest.

>> No.16487078

>>16487023
>Au / Ag
This will not save you.

Crypto will not save you.

You will learn this soon enough.

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>>16486276
>are you ready for nonwhites to continue enjoying the fruits of your labor and enjoy yourself more needless items and services that do not offer you happiness?
Take the minimalism and ethnocentrism pills already anon, who cares

>> No.16487097

>>16487070
Better than a deflationary collapse caused by your retarded government's obsession with rocks

>> No.16487105

>>16487082
post the republican version of this where they all hold the Israeli flag

>> No.16487107

>>16487078
So what are you advocating? Beans and bullets?

>> No.16487155

>>16487023
Pull up the chart on interest rates and the historical return of the stock market.

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>Fed is now shilling on 4chan
Oh shit, things must really be as bad as they say.

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>>16487155
Sure stock market is rallying now but for how long? You think this has power over me?

>> No.16487212

>>16486982
the chart literally says PURCHASING POWER you fucking illiterate self righteous fuck

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>>16486276
>Are you ready for this?

No , you should be in btc , let me explain why

1_Dollar becomes too strong

2_Rest of central banks pump as international trade collapses due to deflationary effects

3_This causes crypto to pump

4_Meanwhile deflationary effects in the world reserve currency work against crypto

5_Crypto remains stable

6_US exports collapse

7_Demand for usd starts to collapse as china does treaties to trade in rmb

8_This put extreme pressure in the us economy as full employment is basically already there

9_US enters into massive deflationary recession and is forced to pump with no survivors.


Either way crypto win, that said cryptos with high inflation are going to be massacred, they are going to go to 0 for real.

Only cryptos with low inflation will survive.

https://www.viewbase.com/inflation

By the time the pump happens it's going to be massive and cryptos are going to the fucking moon.
The pumping by central banks will be so massive that a shitton of autistist crypto holders are going to become rich.
Why so massive?Because boomers retiring will have deflationary effects in a shitton of goods except basic goods like food.

So milenials and zoomers will chimpout as their cost of living increases and the governments will have to print to

1_Keep the milenials and zoomers under control.

2_Evaporate boomer retirements with inflation so at least they work something and are not as inflationary in basic goods by living doing nothing for 35 or 40 years.

>> No.16487240

>>16487212
which means the chart is WRONG you braindead 30 IQ retard. Imagine how fucking dumb you have to be to think someone in 1940 had 80 times larger purchasing power than someone today

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>>16486971
BTC velocity mimics usd because btc was born at the big blue dildo in 2009 and surferd the 3 qe programs.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/BOGMBASE

>> No.16487243

>>16487212
So? You think your average factory worker was paid 50k a year in 1910?

>> No.16487254

>>16486855
Hah dubs of truth.

>> No.16487260

Imagine choosing fake internet money over the US mother fucking Dollar.

>> No.16487261

>>16487233
>5_Crypto remains stable
ROTFLMFAO

>> No.16487273

>>16487199
I said charts you fucking faggot, you posted the 100 year chart of the USD, but failed to take into account the stock market returns, the different interest rates throughout the years,etc.

>> No.16487282

>>16487240
They won't understand, these retards keep posting the same fucking chart image as proof of something for years. They are braindead.

>> No.16487303

>>16487261
The world trade is under a liquidity crisis due to lack of usd it's only a matter of time until capital controls become more common and btc becomes the only tool for the international purchases in a great part of the world.

>> No.16487330

>>16487303
Go peddle your conspiracy theories somewhere else doomer. There is literally no crisis. The economy is the best it has ever been. Nobody will ever take bitcoin seriously.

>> No.16487332

>>16487023
>>16487273
>you
You wanna know how I know you are new here.

>> No.16487347

>>16487282
It’s true that the chart gives a false impression but think about in terms of things like the average cost of land/housing vs the average annual salary. Up until 10-15 years ago the average house cost like 1.5x-3x the average annual salary. What’s it like now?

>> No.16487355

>>16486714
If this is your honest comparison, factor in the techological advancements of lets say the roman empire(while great progress) cant hold a candle to the industrial revolution, now take into account timescales of both eras of history... we are in the correct timeframe

>> No.16487359

>>16487330
Hahaha the amount of cope from fiatcucks is amazing. Imagine licking the boot of the petrodollar and thinking thats good. Imagine sucking literal (((banker))) penis while you shill for pennies on an already useless currency that the world will dump the moment it gets the chance.

>> No.16487371

>>16487359
>petrodollar
Imagine unironically saying that.

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>>16487330

>> No.16487431

>>16487359
Beats believing libertard fairy tales.

>> No.16487457

>>16486924
Still better then most of crypto that lost that in a matter o 6months-1year

>> No.16487486

>>16487105
both should have an Israel flag. They are both sides.

>> No.16487571

So which one is it, is the economy about to collapse or suddenly boom?

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>>16487371

>> No.16487721
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>>16487330
>There is literally no crisis. The economy is the best it has ever been.

The us economy is so great but us trade has been reduced due to tarrifs also the bogs are no longer pumping since qe3.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/BOGMBASE

This means the usd in circulation has been decreasing since december 2017.
Since the usd is used for international trade , due to being the default reserve currency post ww2 and bretton woods the world is now having a MASSIVE liquidity shock since december 2017(exactly when btc peaked).

So nations are now having problems since they can't get enough usds so they are not importing or trading as much.
Turkey , India , China , Argentina , Germany , France , Brazil, Canada, Mexico.
Basically every economy that is export dependant is now starting to collapse due to the fact that the usa is not sending as much usd to the world by buying shit.

This is caused by the fed no longer pumping and trump trade war.
This two things are happening at the same time but not planned that way , they simply are happening at the same time because political and economical reasons for the fed and trump administration independently.

As a result world trade is being rekt atm , add the solar minimum reducing agricultural outputs as always happens every 11 years and the coming boogaloo will pump crypto to the fucking sun.

>Nobody will ever take bitcoin seriously.

Good we better be under the radar till the hashrate is so big a 51% attack cost more than most nations gdp which at this rate of growth will be in about 3 years.

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>>16487721
>solar minimum drops temperatures
>I know, instead of using electricity for heat, let’s use it to mine for imaginary internet monies
Things really are fucked up

>> No.16487784

>>16487721
So either you think that the fed printing more money to put in to the economy is is a good thing, (it is, they are experts after all) or you admit that we are still riding on the Obama economy and Trump is about to destroy everything.

>> No.16487787

>>16487760
The funnist shit is that a lot of people are using asics for heating.

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>>16487784
None of the two , the boomers insulted everyone that wanted to teach them how the world worked and received the world on autopilot , the gold standard fell in the us , bretton woods fell , the soviet union fell on itself.

The world has been on autopilot between 1970 to 2008 , the boomers then had it exploding on their face and since they owned assets they got out by printing money , the monetary base increased 4 times.

They did not give a shit since they owned assets and the priec of their houses or cars went up.

Now milenials are rekt they are about to retire and serious deflationary effects are starting to happen.

Notice how the retard boomers never fixed 2008

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/BOGMBASE

They are doing something that could be to called "anti qe" , i mean the monetary base is returning to pre qe3 levels , this is fucking global trade , by the time they realize how much they fucked up it will be too late.

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16488723

>>16486276
>>16487820
So wait, basic question, I should know this but- what again is so bad about hyperdeflation?

Inflation: money gets weaker because tons of it, everyone holding dollars gets fucked. Everyone with assets rejoices

Deflation: money gets stronger...So people want dollars. Which encourages hoarding, so....is it just trade grinds to a halt (as with global trade now due to US not buying shit)?

Well doesn’t inflation do that too?...Inflation just encourages hoarding assets (boomers sitting on their houses as they get moar valuable), which sucks, and creates a liquidity problem of its own, as if you’re in cash you eventually get priced out of buying the house from that boomer fuck, after which point you just get poorer & poorer as that pile of cash becomes more worthless.

With deflation, you’re encouraged to save. I view this as a good thing right? I see that the same problem as above is created via the opposite mechanism, BUT If people are spurred to practice patience, and be more discerning with their purchases (only spend when it is truly worth it, i.e. on truly high-quality/necessary products) then that would incentivize producing more quality in all products. You still have the competition aspect, trying to undercut the market while still profiting off your products, but the difference is an inflationary market will want to make & sell the MINIMUM VIABLE product at the lowest cost, while a deflationary one will have to sell the BEST POSSIBLE product at the lowest cost.

>> No.16488912

Bump

>> No.16488959

A bump from me too, I want an answer >:(

>> No.16489097

>>16488723
yes both are bad in extremes , the problem however is not deflation now , the problem is the reserve currency being starved from the rest of the world fucking up trade ,no one wants to trade in argentinean pesos or chinese yuan.

>> No.16489164

>>16486665
True, they've been printing bank IOUs not dollars

>> No.16489166

>>16486362
>"per global citizen"
>he doesnt know

>> No.16489173

>>16486855
Missing 21 trillion = long established space force

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16489205

So, what you're saying is, I should just let my calls ride, and buy even more?

Maybe buy leveraged ETF's on margin, because global monetary policy is going to pump the fuck out of the stock markets?

>> No.16489249

>>16489097
Ok so wait. How exactly will it look, do you think, when we start experiencing deflation? (within the US, but particularly also outside of it)

And how will that start.....just whenever the fed stops printing (or even just slows down bc they’re already printing so goddamn much that even a small pause would make deflation effectively kick in)?

And wait if millennials are already fukt - by inflation - aka they’re still holding those heavy dollar bags - shouldn’t it maybe reverse a little once deflation starts? i.e. Asset prices will go down as people increasingly sell shit, because cash is king, thereby returning back to the millennials who have big piles of saved cash but no houses some long-overdue buying power?

>> No.16489270

>>16489249
Yea deflation is a posibility , the big problem as i said it's not the us economy but global trade because us monetary and political choices.

The rest of the world will see industrial collapse as the recession starts as it's happening in leafland or krautland now.

Probably happening too in china but nobody says shit.

After the boogaloo hit's europe and the us hard central banks will create inflation any way possible pumping crypto.

Yea crash will be king but all this crap is happening in a synchronized way with the bitcoin halvening.

So btc will gain it's place as a safe asset in the view of the world in the middle of the boogaloo that will probably be synchronized too with us elections with candidats promising gibs non stop.

Regarding houses probably rekt in places like leafland in prices with no one to buy , in the us the generational wealth transfer will probably happen due to trump policies generating employment.

>> No.16489596

>>16487721
is there a name for your brave new economic theory

>> No.16489632

>>16488723
deflation breeds political monsters. Trump and some of the more colorful leaders in EU are just the beginning if deflation persists.

Inflation is viewed as good and desirable because you can inflate the debts away. That was the plan after 2008. With inflation the debt burden would have become manageable. But that didn't happen.

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>>16489596
it's not an economic theory it's geopolitics , we have reached clown world for real , milenials are being fucked by inflation , while boomers are terrified of deflation destroying the value of their bags.

Central banks want higher interest rates because they are out of tools , politicians want negative interest rates.

We reached peak clownification massive deficits yet we see deflation because economic factors are now causing generations to behave very differently, one generation fucked by inflation and not owning assets since 2008 , and another owning assets terrified of what will happen if their bags are not pumped.

Fact is they are out of tools to fix the system.

>>16489632
>deflation breeds political monsters. Trump and some of the more colorful leaders in EU are just the beginning if deflation persists.

Agree

>Inflation is viewed as good and desirable because you can inflate the debts away. That was the plan after 2008. With inflation the debt burden would have become manageable. But that didn't happen.

Peak keynsian retardation , some of those debt are pensions plans that if you inflate your population will revolt.
Also for the us it would mean losing the reserve currency status , debt is not the problem , liquidity is , lebanon , chile , argentina , india , turkey , china.

They are being fucked hard by lack of usd in the global trade system , the eu nations are still safe , affected by trade but thanks to the euro their monetary system is still safe.

>> No.16489804

>>16486276
>peak inflation
>peak deflation

Sounds like hyperstagflation liquidity trap, but /biz

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>>16487721
>will pump crypto to the fucking sun.
Those wax wings already melted. Now just waiting for the hardware to sink into the bottom of the ocean floor.

Denial really has fully set in. Crypto enthusiasts literally think they are immune from a global recession. The price has been collapsing since the peak in December 2017 and people think just because the miners needed to unload their equipment in a slow orderly fashion that somehow there is a future for crypto in it's current form.

The floating currency regime has exhausted its bag of tricks with blockchain and the entire digital construct is in jeopardy. When this global recession hits the deflation is only going to speed up.

Like I said USD is the most deflationary currency in the world. Nothing will stop this.

>> No.16490814

>dollar shilling
this is it, we've hit rock bottom

>> No.16491302

>>16486681
>Anyone who shills against the USD on reddit or here is a 90 iq moron who will stay poor forever..

Are you stupid or some shit? The US dollar has been losing its value for ages. You literally will stay poor if you keep your money in US dollars.

>>16486725
>Try explaining how the USD sucks to anyone in China or South America.

That's a sign as what's to come. If you think the USD is immune to what's going on the rest of the world, you're not going to make it.

>> No.16491678

>>16486362
the digital money they "print" is loaned out so yea the inflation is still there. just because it's not all in physical cash doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

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>>16490587

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>>16486362
>global citizen

>> No.16491917

>>16490814
Yet you're still using it.
Your life has never been better.
There is literally 144 years left in this financial empire.

>> No.16491929

>>16491678
If all the digital representations were to exit the system right now they would not have the physical currency. Prove to me otherwise.

>> No.16491964

>>16486276
What kind of drop do you see in the markets and how long will this recession be?

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>>16491929
The only currency humanity needs is electricity, which is free and abundant everywhere. I hope you get nailed to a cross in Minecraft, you Christkilling liar.

"Throughout space there is energy. Is this energy static or kinetic! If static our hopes are in vain; if kinetic — and this we know it is, for certain — then it is a mere question of time when men will succeed in attaching their machinery to the very wheelwork of nature." Nikola Tesla

>> No.16492074

>>16491964
We're actually in a long depression.

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16492105

>>16492000
>The only currency humanity needs is electricity
You wouldn't happen to be talking about AC would you? You talk about it as if it should be worshiped. Let it sink in.

IN GOD WE TRUST

>> No.16492116

The biggest issue with Link is the unaccounted 650 million tokens. How can we get fucked with their tokenomics?

>> No.16492123

>>16486276
One USD will be 1 zillion zibabwe dollar in 10 years. screencap this.

>> No.16492129

>>16491964
The market drop won't necessarily be the way you think it will be. The digital game is just about dried up. It pushed itself into all corners of the globe and has saturated itself. When this recession formally announces itself be prepared to be kicked off the teats. You either have the assets or you don't. How long it lasts depends on how much of a death grip your mind has on the floating currency meme. Once you let it go the recession will no longer exist.

>> No.16492131

>>16486878
When the fuck has /biz/ ever been right?

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16492152

>>16486362
>only printed up 1.74 trillion

>> No.16492184

>>16486855
>the missing $21 trillion at the Pentagon
Guess who wasn't invited to the interstellar child sex parties?

>> No.16492187

>>16492131
>correct about bitcoin
>correct about eth
>correct about ans
You are here
>correct about link

>> No.16492194

>>16492187
Good thing I'm all in on LINK, then.

>> No.16492207

>>16487347
About 4.5x+.

>> No.16492211

>>16492129
So basically just hold on to cash and wait until everyone proclaims crypto dead?

>> No.16492300

>>16492211
Noo. Invest in Btc/eth/link. Then We need to wait until property values drop to the rates of pre 2000. that’s when we come in and scoop up their properties.

>> No.16492358

A thread shilling actual dollars? Holy fuck the collapse might actually be fucking close after all.
>Stay in the dollar goy
>Bitcoin bad goy
These shills couldn’t be more obvious. Dollar collapse imminent.

>> No.16492372
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16492372

>>16487107
Gold and silver
>>>>>16491914

>> No.16492399

>>16487233
don't only be in crypto,diversify into PM's as well

>> No.16492446
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16492446

>>16491964
Inflation is already happening for most average-person consumer items at around 5-8%, the economy is already stagnating for anyone who doesn't already have an upper middle-class job / lifestyle. In real dollar terms the recession is already happening. Japanification and stagflation are the best-case scenarios for the next 20-30 years, but a big depression could also happen if the government makes the wrong choices and exacerbates the situation.

>> No.16492458
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16492458

>>16490587
>uses the wall street meme cycle pic against HASH RATE

>> No.16492518

>>16492358
+1

>> No.16492538

>>16492446
Based

>> No.16492555
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16492555

>>16486276
lol, good luck bringing back its value.

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16492560

>>16486714
>a muck

>> No.16492585

>>16491302
>Are you stupid or some shit? The US dollar has been losing its value for ages. You literally will stay poor if you keep your money in US dollars.

You are not supposed to hold CASH, how is this so hard to understand? The us dollar is a good currency since it doesn't drop drastically on the short term.

>> No.16492591

>>16492555
You idiots have been posting this retarded chart for years.

>> No.16492614

>>16492555
And yet it has become the global currency of the world desired by literally everybody on the planet. I hate you doomer faggots, the dollar is as strong as its ever been. Get out of your conspiracy hole.

>> No.16492639

>>16492614
Oh my, I feel sorry for you. Please get at least a small allocation of precious metals.

>> No.16492697

>>16492614
>third word countries want USD
>USD is king
Fucking hell mate.

>> No.16492787

>>16492458
>he thinks the cycle is a meme
Absolutely applicable

>> No.16492800
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16492800

>>16492555
$1.00 USD = ONE DOLLAR

No way of avoiding it.

>> No.16492821

>>16492614
>they price their virtual tokens with it
>they price their metals with it
>they pay their taxes with it
>they pay their bills with it
>they buy groceries with it
>they pick it up off the ground if they see it

I could go on....

>> No.16492930

>>16492821
All things people can do with REAL US DOLLARS, not shitty fake internet money.

>> No.16493031

>>16492930
Don't tell them all that. It might upset their safe spaces. They are not interested in reality at the moment. They only pray for metal revaluation or virtual token mass adoption to get them out of their self created hell. Unfortunately for them neither is going to happen for another 144 years.

>> No.16493787
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16493787

>>16487784
>(it is, they are experts after all)

>> No.16493844
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16493844

>>16492800
That silver coin is a dollar. You are confusing it with currency, "Federal Reserve Notes," fiat scrip invented to enslave RH+ people to an international breakaway civilization of gay pedophiles because you murdered the Lord Jesus Christ.

>> No.16493885

>>16493844
> 31 U.S. Code §5103. Legal tender

United States coins and currency (including Federal reserve notes and circulating notes of Federal reserve banks and national banks) are legal tender for all debts, public charges, taxes, and dues.

https://www.govinfo.gov/app/details/USCODE-2010-title31/USCODE-2010-title31-subtitleIV-chap51-subchapI-sec5103/context

What are you going on about?

>> No.16493968

>>16493885
Currency and money are different, you retard gorilla nigger

>> No.16494403

>>16487233
Not clear why you think boomers will be "put to work." 65 year olds will not be rejoining the workforce

>> No.16494535

>>16494403
How about you actually read what I wrote you dumb nigger.

>> No.16494890

>>16494535
It's a dumb argument. "The government will print money because the elderly class is too rich and they don't spend enough" is essentially what you are saying.

Except, when did the elderly EVER not spend money? They are fucking elderly. They are probably the most fiscally conservative classification there is.

>> No.16494901
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16494901

>>16486362
>it doesn't count when it's digital

>> No.16494917

>>16490587
Go to shill somewhere else nouriel

>> No.16494921

>>16486276
This dumb nigger tried making a thread about a misused INDICATOR ROOOOOFL

>> No.16494930

>>16486725
I am in South America nouriel the usd is fine but people are now starting to save in bitcoin, because you can't take the usd with you and international wires are not possible.

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16496058

>>16494403
>65 year olds will not be rejoining the workforce

I can think of a whole group of people that will be put to work real soon. They just don't know it yet.

>>16494901
When are you going to learn what the term "simulation" means?

>>16494921
>misused INDICATOR

-Less changing of hands.
-More hoarding
-Strengthening
-Deflationary

Easy concept to grasp anon.

IN GOD WE TRUST

>> No.16496284

>>16494403
Boomers went to work in ‘09, last crash. They were 10 years younger, some will probably not work this crash, others will die (one way or another)

>> No.16496303
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16496303

No shit money velocity is low, it did 400% in 3 years due to the financial crisis and they cut it off and started QT three years ago. We didnt even cut 5% before they've started up again, velocity is actually going to skyrocket. Your looking at a lagging indicator, go look at actual M2 to see where its going.

>> No.16496309

>>16493844
Michael Jackson was/is either a crypto-jew himself (most likely) or a very good goy. The kids he was pulling at his ranch, most likely for powerful jewish execs to diddle.

One thing is for sure, MJ was no anti-semite, inb4 he called out some jews once. Thats not how it works subhumans..

>> No.16496372

>>16496309
MJ wasn't a pedo, he was just put on trial for being eccentric. Jews protect the actual pedo elite, they slanders and sacrificed MJ because he wouldn't submit to the kikes games.

>> No.16496421

>>16486362
>printed 225 per person
You are forgetting that every bank that comes across that money will loan it out on fractional reserve. Its closer to $2000 per person.

>> No.16496428

>>16496372
Thats so fake news, imagine believing that. Anon like this one, perfect example of low iq goy.

>MJ protected kids
You should be castrated and fed your own balls.

>> No.16496438

so if debt is our crisis. who attacks america from a financial perspective.

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16496468

>>16496058
Nobody wants your shitcoin, Mr. Rothschild, go home.

>> No.16496475

>>16496438
Anyone who doesn't buy our debt. Debt denominated in fiat is a terrible investment

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16497166

>>16486276
>This thread is still up.

Fuck Fiat, Fuck shills, Fuck kikes, fuck niggers and fuck jannies.

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16497176

>>16492152
That aint shit.

>> No.16497179

>>16486276
Yes. No debt+ I'm all in American stocks with reserve cash. I'm ready for the deflationary event to trash the value of my house while my savings moon. Let's do this.

>> No.16497225

>>16496309
He was protecting those kids.

>> No.16497237

>>16493031
The US dollar will be backed by metal again one day imo it already is to a degree.

>> No.16497238

>>16493844
Also the reason they put denominations like that on them is to consider them coins, which makes the purchase of them a non taxable event in burger land.

>> No.16497296

>>16486276
>tfw nasa has already collected enough data as to where the biggest deposits of precious metals asteroids are
>tfw all nasa has to do is start the space race
>tfw already loaded up on space stawks to the gills
>tfw /biz is still a bunch of faggots

>> No.16497370

>>16497296
Do you actually believe any of that shit?!?
Nasa in Hebrew literally means deciever.

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16497565

>>16486671
there are no friends in finance, these people would hurt you if they could

>> No.16497579

>>16486276
smart money is preparing for the 2020 recession
simply because trumps' gov't is laughably understaffed and ineffective and corps have been getting away with murder the last four years
how FB hasn't been broken up is honestly beyond me and everyone else with a quarter of a brain

>> No.16497584

>>16497370
go to bed you're having an episode