/biz/ - Business & Finance

OH MY FUCKING GOD

>>16473915
Except you are wrong

>>16473932
COPAGE.

>>16473915
The absolute state of ENG bagholders

I CANNOT BREATHE BROS AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA THEY ALL FUCKING DO IT AND YET IT ALWAYS ENDS THE SAME WAY

everyone who so far thought they could just spin up their own oracle service has bent the knee sooner or later, eventually realizing that the problem is actually hard and coming to the conclusion that chainlink has it solved

>>16473944
(((Zyskind)))

>>16473944
>>16473915
This partnership is a bandaid solution until chainlink nodes running SGX come online, making enigma’s entire value proposition obsolete

>>16473938
Is that the name of your penis?

This is unironically hilarious , the amount of Enigma cope in this thread will be delicious.

>>16473980
lol, who let the roastie in here

>>16473975
That makes no sense. Chain link can retrieve data....a big nothing

>>16473915
Why do we care about this low cap literal who?

>>16473991
I let the small penis Jew in here

>>16473932
>>16473980
>>16473999
>being this mad
no need to feel bad, enigma is one of many who bent the knee and more are still to come

>>16473932
>>16473980
>>16473999
>>16474007
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA

>>16474015
You seem stressed. Maybe fundamentally you are retarded

>>16474032
kek

>>16473941
>>16473984
I don't get it, why is this bad for Enigma?

>>16474059
Shoo shoo nulinker!

>>16474040
Enigma pumped 14% showing how valuable it is
Chain link didn't because it shows how pointless it is

>>16474059
They would always claim to be the best Oracle. This is giving it to them in the ass with no lubrication

>>16474059
Enigma was seen to some degree as a competitor/occupying the same space as Chainlink. There's a screenshot floating around of an Enigma developer claiming Chainlink was a bandaid solution. now they have bent the knee. lol

>>16474068
Dudes right

Oracles belong to link fuck enigma.

>>16474069
>We needed brand association with Chainlink to pump.
>That means we're better than Chainlink!

>>16474074
>>16474079
ahh I see. I didn't realize they were seen as competition, I was under the impression they would work with chainlink in some capacity

>>16474059
>>16474079
Um no. Not even the same

>>16474032
>>16474069
>>16474116
This guy sounds like one of the Enigma devs. They were always so defensive and butthurt when asked about their garbage and Chainlink. Something was always around the corner, muh MIT research.... and this is how it ends. The absolute fucking state

>>16474082
You are retarded. If Enigma bent the knee it would be a bad sign for Enigma causing fear and doubt.

>>16473915
>secret smart contracts that function ontop of eth

Ok

This whole "industry" is a fucking joke, Enigma just convinced Sergey to form a "partnership" in a desperate attempt to pump their bags because Link is the king of shitcoins for some reason.
Imagine believing any of this stuff is real tech lmao

>>16473944
checked and cucked

>>16473999

it's almost comical at this point how overpowered sergey and team are in the space. they're probably the only corporate juggernaut tier team in the altcoin space.

>>16474212
That's what I'm saying man. Enigma is literally throwing stinkies a bone

>>16474231
>Imagine believing any of this stuff is real tech lmao
You fudders need to get new material bro, you're appearing really weak here.

>>16474203
Nah it just means enigma is being realistic about what its limitations are. There’s value in knowing you’re a bitch cog in the machine

>>16474247
link is a shitcoin and enigma just confirmed it's also a shitcoin.
So far real link partnerships are: moab, that ponzi game I forgot the name of, enigma.
It's sad because the concept behind enigma had potential, but at the end they scammed everyone

>>16474275
you seem confident for some reason about the state of this project yet literally all of us who have been following the team can tell you have no idea what you're talking about. stick to bitcoin my friend.

>>16474275
You are fucking high, they are not allowed to be fatty

>>16474300
what link promised: decentralized oracles
what link delivered: centralized oracle service that requires kyc and an exam to get into.
It's a complete joke.

That's not related to the value of the token, which was worthless regardless of what they do. All payment tokens can only have value that's extracted from the transacting parties, which in practice means holders are dumping link at the cost of node owners.

Now enigma:
promised: a decentralized network utilizing multi party computation for secret contracts
pivoted to: a decentralized network that relies on sgx for secrecy
killed by: intel bugs. No one trusts sgx anymore.
what they should have done in response: go back to the original plan of mpc
what they actually do: partner with a scam to pump their bags. I can guarantee they are going to be dumping their enigma tokens soon, if not already.

Enigma was supposed to perform *arbitrary computations*. Apparently it can't even verify data from a ssl connection.

Token: made sense in the initial design - a big network of nodes with the amount of enigma you have determining your chance at being chosen to compute something.
Now, it's completely worthless.

Btw Tor is deleting all critical opinions on telegram. That's the ultimate proof it's an exit pump.
Fortunately I went in early enough that selling now is (almost) a wash

>>16474384
>what link delivered: centralized oracle service that requires kyc and an exam to get into.

stopped reading there. next time try to actually read what the team posts instead of fud posts on 4chan

>>16474395
You got scammed, sorry. That's literally what link is.
The hype cycle for link appears to have ended. It's not pumping in response to these bullshit partnerships anymore. Most holders aren't going to be able to sell it to anyone, see req. This is the ultimate end of all shitcoins, just bags too big even for a market sell.

>>16474384
Hahaha, how many links you have sir?

>>16474418
ok you convinced me, I'm market selling my ico bags

i would usually post
>HAHAHAHAHAHA
but when are any of these partnerships actually going to do something?

>>16474384
>posting serious analysis in a chainlink topic

>>16473915
>scam1 tries to compete with scam2
>while they are at the same marketcap, scam1 says their product is superior and vice versa
>scam2 wins the race because scam2 has an army of autistic deluded morons that will buy and never sell
>scam1 is on life support just like the rest of the entire scam market
>"maybe if we make any sort of connection with scam2 it will pump our shitcoin?"
>scam1 "bends the knee" to scam2
>scam1 hopes the price pumps so they can dump the rest of their stack
LMAAAAAO LE BEND DA KNEEEEEEXDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD SO FUNNY THEY TOTALLY BENT THE KNEE AND THEY TOTALLY CARE ABOUT ANYTHING OTHER THAN SCAMMING ALL OF YOU DELUDED RETARDS XDDDDDDDD TO THE MOOOOOOOOOOOOOON XDXDXDXXDDDDDDDDDDD

what the fuck, I read the entire article
>At a high level, all these use-cases involve using Chainlink nodes to submit task data to a secret contract on Enigma.
what?
they are literally planning to use link oracles to... transmit data from the ethereum blockchain to enigma nodes. What? Why can't enigma nodes just read the blocks directly?
They really think everyone is a complete idiot.

>>16473932
The sheer cope, lmao

>>16474570
image. Yes the scam is really that obvious.

>>16473932
How you holding up, Tor?

>>16473944
This is delicious.
Why was that faggot so salty anyway.

>>16474570
>>16474591
>Why can't enigma nodes just read the blocks directly?
Because that would constitute a centralized oracle.

>>16474611
transactions are signed, there's no possibility of incorrect data.

>>16474626
You have no idea what you're talking about.
Literally read the Chainlink white paper.

>>16474395
>read what the team posts
the team constantly lies about their tech being decentralized and partnerships, if you trust anything written or said by a member of Chainlink team, you're literally retarded

>>16474626
how do you know the data you received is not incorrect?

>>16474631
sorry, not writing about link anymore. Everyone still in it is either a speculator looking to dump it higher knowing it's a scam, or a brainlet who's going to be left with bags.
>>16474669
Because transactions have a signature.

>>16474600
Tee/sgx is literally hidden SCs. I don't dyor on garbage but I'd assume from the name that's literally what these fags were trying to do.

Just like every other "competitor" that has ended up "partnering" with CL, their entire usecase got btfo as an afterthought on the slog to the top of the shitcoin mountain.

>>16474692
>Because transactions have a signature.
Are you retarded

>>16473950
kek centralized oracles have existed since day one. There's countless dapps that use their own centralized oracles.... but ZERO that use Chainlink. You're a literal retard. Chainlink is confirmed vaporware:

>1+ year test net
>5 months main net
>nobody can name a single dapp with users using Chainlink oracles in production
>(with proof link to dapp.com/dappradar/etherscan)
>Linkers: this is bullish!

>>16474555
nice digits but you still lack indoor plumbing, Habdeesh.

>>16474692
This "hurrr just sign the data" fud is absolute 2017-tier fud.
It is literally handled in the white paper.

>>16473944
Wait is this 7 years shit legit?

>>16473932
c o p e

>>16473999
>retardwojack.img

>>16474751
Yeah in 7 years literally everything will be on the blockchain so there will be no external data for oracles to call.
Use your brain you fucking gumboot.

>>16473980
> seething

>>16473915
just the beginning. being blockchain agnostic is LINK's trump card. every crypto (shitcoin or not) will be partnered with LINK by the end of next bullrun.

>>16474798
yeah what a dumb idea, maybe in 25 years most of finance will be on the blockchain but what about logistics or insurance?

>>16474798
no shit it didnt make sense. I just had to be sure about what i was reading you goober

>>16474722
>1 + वर्ष परीक्षण नेट
>5 महीने का मुख्य जाल
>कोई भी उत्पादन में चैनलिंक oracles का उपयोग करने वाले उपयोगकर्ताओं के साथ एक भी नाम नहीं दे सकता है
>(dapp.com/dappradar/etherscan के प्रूफ लिंक के साथ)
>लिंकर्स: यह तेजी है!

>>16474847
Or just the fact that there is absolutely zero reason to store the sort of data that triggers payments (like prices or weather or anything) on a blockchain.

ok, turd dumped. Over 150% profit in eth, so not that bad. I would hold eth if I didn't buy enigma anyway.

>>16473984
oh oh oh its MAGIC

>>16474876
>theres zero reason to eliminate billions of dollars post settlement reconciliation costs while enabling highly reliable, instantaneous and secure cross border payments
the absolute fervent cope

>>16474956
how about you learn to read before you reply to things.

>>16473999
Data is the next godl rush, retard.

>>16474384
They literally do what they say

>>16475007
That's what Enigma does retard. Chain link is an API wowww

>>16475051
I never said anything about chainlink, you fucking cock gobbling mongoloid. Fucking idiot.

>>16475051
Chainlink can literally do everything that enigma does and way more. Chainlink team flexin hard

>>16475089
chainlink does not even have a finished product

>>16475120
And still everyone is lining up to suck their cocks. Should tell you something

>>16475131
chainlink partnered with enigma because enigma has a finished product unlike chainstink

Newfags dont remember enigma talking shit about link i guess this knee benting makes so comfy

>>16475139
Lol. They dont even have a public testnet

>>16475144
Didn't the Enigma devs themselves go into the Chainlink telegram and talk shit?
The absolute state...

>>16475089
You're a fucking idiot you cuck bitch jigger mother fucker

>>16475156
they have lol
and they have their genesis game this month
mainnet in a few months
they have a working decentralized product
doing private smart contracts
link will fetch data from now on, nothing more
the actual computing is left the enigma network

now fetch me some data faggot

>>16473999
based trips fit for a glorious retard

Why does chainlink need enigma again?

>>16475189
cause it is able to do private smart contracts
after 5 years of research from MIT
go fuck yourself with your philsophy degree

>>16475158
exacly
>>16475177
>>16475203
>>16475139
>>16475120
Buthurt boy You are lucky Sergey is big man (get it kek) and will let you solve oracle problem trough link I hope you learned your lession and wont do more shittalking in link channels

>>16475177
Their developer testnet is live, not their full public testnet. Nice try ranjeet

>>16475189
sMPC just gives them another secure/private processing option on top of TEEs and mixicles.
Chainlink will just have their fingers in every pie so whichever solution works best will be covered.

>>16475189
>>16475254
They don't need engima once TEEs go live on Chinlink. If you are already using oracles, why would you also need a seperate off-chain environment for computation when the oracles can do it as well. Way easier that way. Regardless, enigma will still need oracles if they carve out a niche

>>16475254
>finger in every pie
>can't even get a single user 5 months after launch
KEK, are you on suicide watch yet?

>1+ year test net
>5 months main net
>nobody can name a single dapp with users using Chainlink oracles in production
>(with proof link to dapp.com/dappradar/etherscan)
>Linkers: this is bullish!

MUH BLOCKLORDS

>>16473915

I'm just waiting for StainStink to finally break $2 and plunge to oblivion. Seeing you Stinkies swing is going to be glorious.

>>16476046
Nobody cares. The verdict is already in. 1k eoy.

>>16474798
That's why LINK being block chain agnostic is so important. Not all of that data will be on the same chain. If anything there will be more chains developed that are more cost effective.

>>16474798
source?

>>16474015
>many who
haha
i see what you did there
:^)
there will be many more "who"s

>>16476197
kek what's important is Chainlink actually being decentralized instead of a centralized KYC vaporware scam.

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>All the Enigma cope in this thread
Yeah, I'm thinking we are back

>>16474231
just buy more nigga. no need to fake fud a Finnish almond harvesting forum

>>16473944
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAA

>>16473944
this cant be real

>>16474069
>ENG price $0.44
>LINK prive $2.05 and counting
Lol yeah no get rekt bagholder

>>16474247
Totally.

It sounds more Like LINK is the one bending the knee
I hold LINK and think ENG is a total shitcone. Don’t like the sound of this

>>16473944
bsv can do everything onchain

>>16474723
>Habdeesh

>>16475239
For you

>>16477361
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>>16477269

And what exactly are YOU so fucking smug about then?

>>16477236
indeed, that's what optics of the announcement look like

TEEs/sgx are all backdoored and are therefore useless

another one will test chainlink network for free. based sergey

>>16477665
I would love to watch Sergey use the sybil attack to backdoor the new TEE intel intern

>>16473915

2 scams

>>16474798
That's like saying all data is on the computer so you won't need IO.

>>16474873
lmao

>>16477189
correction, enigma price is now $0.55

>be me
>understand only half the words in that tweet
>buy more linkies

>>16473932

>>16473944
This is just enigma people not understanding that link is not a competing oracle service but a complementary one that makes it easier for enigma to get users.

To be fair, the link marines there and even in this thread don't understand it even now, and still think enigma is bending the knee to a competitor rather than integrating a complementary service that never sought to compete with them in the first place.

>>16479835
What Linkies are doing is not so much a reaction to Enigma itself, but rather the retarded Enigma fanboys who kept saying Enigma was a "Chainlink killer".
Exact same thing happened with Quant.
In other words: literally pic related.

Enigma and Quant themselves are based.

>>16479835
We understand it fine. It even makes good sense for Chainlink to buddy up with everybody even if its project is superior, because thats how you keep everyone on your side until they realize they got LINKED.com

>>16479835
If you knew the history between the projects yo uwould know ENG were bending the knee. sMPC might even be useful to LINK but that doesn't change the simple fact ENG devs literally raided the LINK Telegram to baaww and are now knee bending with the rest of them.

>>16479878

Chain link killer?

>Ay to senpai apple is a McDonald's killer

Literally makes no sense. The projects are totally different

>>16479984
it definitely doesn't make sense, but that's what Enigma shills have been saying since over a year ago.

>>16473915
Nice lmao
Been waiting for this day for so long