/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>16463339
dunno he still btfos most people he debates with little effort

he still has more money on his name than 10000x of bizlets

>>16463357
IT'S BITCOIN CASH NOT BCASH REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

>>16463339
fuck him. don't feel sorry for larpertarians that dump alts on you.

>>16463376
i like to call it "bitcoin crash" and the "other bitocin crash"

Roger will be fine. The rest of BCH are the ones who will an hero when they realize they were barking up the wrong tree and their leaders were all retards

>>16463339
>Concerned Calvin
you'd think the cunt had no unflushed turds of his own to be poking around. maybe distraction therapy

>>16463339
How hard is it to understand hes never been a big blocker? Hes on blockstreams side. I bet hes good friends with barry silbert just like he is with mark karpeles

>>16463339
He holds thousands of BSV I think he'll be ok

>>16463339
Calvin is retarded. What kind of sway is "this the original Bitcoin" supposed to hold when you are getting tracked and denied transactions becuase "law matters" on centralised BSV .
The user experience is all that matters. Do what users want = have utility, drive price.
Cling to ver0.1 = don't have utility, price collapses.
This is the case for ALL tech stocks. In the long run it is inevitable that the best product will win (that is, the product which is most useful to users)

>>16463810
I'm sure those 4 users per second will really appreciate the value and happily pay $50 tx fees!

>>16463376
more like buttcorn trash

>>16463357
I don't know, he always debate with his same scripted lines. His opponents are somehow always worse though, but that is par for the course when you are a coretard.

>>16463810
users want no blocksize

devs want a blocksize so they can create side channels and collect fees from the toll

you are retarded

>>16463868
>pay someone for their custom pokemon game in BSV
>get blocked because that's against IP laws
If I wanted to follow the law why the fuck would I be using cryptocurrencies? USD is already digital and insured.

Wow, feeling sorry for an ultra rich crypto savant who lives in Japan and gets to lay pipe in a new jgirl each night

>>16463542
It's not that he's a small blocker. It's that he wants a crypto currency for crime and to topple governments in some kind of anarchist utopian fantasy of his, and he knows Bitcoin as it was designed is actually anti-crime and Satoshi is a fucking cop.

Once you understand this, everything about roger starts making sense. He has to pick though, time is running out for him

>Coin to subvert government and evade law
>Globally scaled cryptocurrency that businesses want to adopt

Pick one, and one one.

>>16463906
because its better than USD, no inflation, low fees, not centralized, cant be counterfit, high potential for value increase.

it works exactly like USD in practice, it can't be blocked any more than an under the table payment can be blocked. wtf are you talking about?

>>16463339
roger is a good guy but a brainlet, he actually believes that crypto will get mass adopted by merchants and used as a daily payment system, how much money has he spend integrating some stores with bcash payments, no one is gonna use crypto for payments because if you buy crypto you want to sell it higher later, not spend it on some stupid shit

>>16463847
>>16463868
Two more retards appear. Hello special little boys.

Read carefully: Bitcoin Cash can scale 200 times better than BSV thanks to Graphene and Canonical Transaction Ordering.
You know... upgrades.
The things Bitcoin used to be back when it was useful.
Bitcoin cash can also do privacy just as good as monero with Cash shuffle, and it can do Tokens better than Ethereum with SLP.
Of course BTC is totally dead.
Bitcoin Cash is the real Bitcoin, with real world adoption, ease of use, top wallet when you search for Bitcoin.

Has everything BSV has, plus 10 times more because BCH continues to improve.

>>16463989
does it have the world record blocksize?
didn't think so, its capped
graphene and canonical tx ordering are not on chain, and not pow, they are just made up toys from a stupid french control freak developer

>>16463339
Yeah i wonder if he was conscious of the dilema of having invested so much in an anarchocapitalist philosophy when going with bsv would have been hypocrisy.
The thing about this space is everyone is wrong at some point. Up until craig and nchain roger was the most marketable and relatable persona for bitcoin.
I think ver wants more freedom for people and wrongly attributes tyranny to existence of law and state when the truth is bitcoin cant even work without the law.
All the things ver has a problem with can be solved by bsv, but if he was to come back i and still be an anarchocapitalist it would feel like a regression, the split is better.
Or he was comped from the start trying to associate bitcoin with anarchy

>>16463989
>Bitcoin Cash can scale 200 times better than BSV thanks to Graphene and Canonical Transaction Ordering.

False. Reality completely shits on your lies.

BCH is not scaling, they don't know how to scale, and they have a Blockstream employee in control of the protocol to make sure it never scales.

Check mate.

ABC = Blockstream 2.0

>>16464080
>>16463989
>>16463868
>>16463339
bsv is reaching the ultimate cope
reminder that Hal Finney predicted bitcoin to reach 10 million usd / coin

>>16463931
>lay pipe in a new jgirl each night
roger likes dick faggot

>>16463339
>Bitcoin CASH

I miss Roger, bros.

>>16464080
Wrong dumbass. Your own graph proves you utterly wrong.
See that green spike there? Bitcoin Cash the real Bitcoin did a spike to do the same transaction volume as BSV.
In a test, BCH is just as capable (and in reality is capable of far far more than BSV once adoption kicks off)
They just aren't stuffing their blockchain with worthless weather data.

>The longest chain not only serves as proof of the sequence ofevents witnessed, but proof that it came from the largest pool of CPU power.

Btc is the real bitcoin

>>16463810
>Cling to ver0.1 = don't have utility
ver0.1 unironically has more utility than Segshit or bcash.

>>16464068
>Up until craig .. roger was the most marketable and relatable persona for bitcoin
>creg, the PR Dream
You really, in all fucking honesty, think that wandering fuckup is 'marketable' ? To fucking whom, exactly ? The cunt oozes dishonesty from every pore. He makes Nixon look like George fucking Clooney ffs.

>>16463906
If that's your reason for being in crypto then you should be in Monero, not Bitcoin.

>>16463339
Even Ver and his shitcoin are less embarrassing than BSV cunts.

>>16464675
>Can't do tokens to run the new world stockmarket
>Can't do privacy
>Can't scale as well as BCH becuase tech is dinosaur age
Ok. Now explain why that's true.

>>16464654
Prove it.

>>16463964
Nobody uses Bitcoin for payments. People use it for microtransactions for apps. It probably won't be used regularly for payments for another decade or so.

>>16464654
>worthless weather data
>people paid for it

>>16463339
Both Roger and Calvin are suffering from a sunk cost fallacy. How many hundreds of millions have these morons wasted? I still blame Bitcoin Core for everything that's happened though.

>>16464708

>>16464698
>Can't do tokens
>what are colored coins

>Can't do privacy
Bitcoin is private. It's just not anonymous, neither is a coin mixer wallet btw.

>Can't scale as well as BCH
Citation required.

>>16464682
Its not august 2017 youre meant to have switched back to support of roger now that he is against craig remember?
And craig is very marketable despite your astroturfing. Same way trump and kanye are marketable.

Keep betting on mccormack, vays, uasf hats etc.

>>16464783
Those are clearly lower levels.

>>16464769
Calvin paid for it, it's the only promotion tool BSV has left to cling to: spam transactions that aren't contributing anything to human commerce.

Say it with me:
BSV.
Is.
A.
Scam.

>>16464827
>Calvin paid for it
Prove it.

>spam transactions
Literal blockstream talking points.

>human commerce
see >>16464745

I'm willing to bet you still don't understand microtransactions.

>>16464827
>Astroturfs link in another thread
>on chain data is bad in this thread
Efficient

>I am the real Bitcoin
>I am the real Bitcoin
>I am the real Bitcoin

>>16464870
Bitcoin segwit is not real bitcoin either :/

>>16463542
silbert is a big blocker
he was a s2x backer

>>16465039
>big blocker
>s2x

>>16463357
He is a spastic parrot repeating his mantras ad nauseam. That's not even debate. Roger Ver is based and redpilled on many topics, but is an annoying debater

>>16464827

Keep telling yourself that

>>16463989

Even the ABC devs admit that CTOR was a mistake

>>16463339
>He seem trapped in a narrative he's not able to get out of
Uh, aren't Calvin and Craig the ones trapped in their own narrative?

>>16465786
In what way?

>>16465818
pic related

>>16465833
Patents don't sell, that isn't how this works. This person is an idiot.

Squire is going ahead with BSV...

https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2019/12/03/1955894/0/en/Squire-Announces-Testing-of-Bitcoin-SV-Node.html

creg hasn't lost any lawsuits. None of this is a narrative, wtf are you actually talking about?

>>16463339
how can Calvin tweet if he can't read? what a con artist....

yes sir buy coin

>>16465867
Craig lost to Roger Ver in his lawsuit. Craig is losing to Ira Kleiman and Craig will probably lose to McCormack. The guy is walking talking shit show. lol

>>16465913
The suit with Ver was dismissed. They never went to court. Watching McCorcuck losing his house is going to be top notch.

>>16463847
Imagine believing that Bitcoin will be worth trillions of dollars in the future and all its security will be paid for by 4 fees per second.

>>16465941
Craig sued Roger. The court mocked Craig then dismissed the whole thing. Then Craig had to pay for Roger's legal fees. Craig absolutely lost.

>>16465941

The judge just granted CSW an appeal

>>16466009
>The court mocked Craig
Never happened. What part of this is destroying BSV again?

>>16466025
also this

>>16466054
>High Court Judge Sir Matthew Nicklin said there was little evidence to support Craig Wright‘s claims of damage to his reputation, and highlighted that Wright had failed to provide enough evidence of “the global reputation he enjoys and, more particularly, the extent to which it has been damaged.”
The judge mocked his "global reputation"

>>16465941
its the same courts (and the same bullshit) he already got btfo'd with Ver that he's trying to pull with McCormack. Except, McCormack in-between got backed by the legal spend equivalent of the 1st to 50th fucking cavalry. I ain't even trolling, creg has won 1 (one, count em) court case, ever. And that was only because he was both acting defendant AND plaintiff in that. He's the type of complete fucking arsehole Judges love to shit on. He is lucky he just loses - he meets one Judge on one bad day, hes getting sentenced for contempt. Again. idk what to tell you, but, this cunt is NEVER winning fucking jack before a court. Ever
>>16466025
The Judge didn't 'grant them an appeal' - he applied for one. Because, he loves to lose. He was fucking born to lose. Now, he'll need to ground this 'appeal'. And, guess what ? He'll lose. again and again and again

>>16466140

Utterly seething

>>16466167
Nobody is seething except for Calvin, Craig and BSV'ers. Everyone else thinks this shit is hilarious.

>>16466108
>The judge mocked his "global reputation"
Now that it's clear you don't understand what mocking means, can you tell me how BSV doesn't work anymore because of this.

>>16463339
He's right. Unfortunately being right is not always profitable

>>16466191
When did I ever say anything about bsv. I said Calvin and Craig are trapped in a narrative they can't escape. Thus making this whole thread ironic as fuck

>>16466225
They don't seem all that trapped to me.

>>16466225

>The walls are closing in on Trump
>This is it, any day now

>>16466167
>ohrly.jpg
now, why would I be 'seething' at this fucking idiot not grasping the obvious, namely, he possesses all the credibility of a $3 bill and all the charm of a veneral disease ? as >>16466179 - its literally free entertainment, at his expense. But, what with Florida, McCormack, Ver (again) - having difficulty keeping up with the sheer depth of the hole this cunt is digging for himself

>>16466246
Trump wins all the time
Craig loses all the time

Calvin obsessed with kids

>>16463339
That Calvin guy is like school in summertime.

>>16466252

>now, why would I be 'seething' at this fucking idiot

Because you're a pawn and deep down you know it

>>16466325
No class

>>16465833
This is Grade D bullshit written by someone who doesn't understand how to properly bullshit.
>>16466290
>>16466297
>>16466325
>>16466140
>NEVER
>Ever
Utterly seething and gregpilled

>>16466335
so tell me, who, in your opinion, has done most thus far to further the #delistBSV campaign ? I seem to recall, being booted from the largest crypto exchange was SOLELY and ENTIRELY the result of cregs aforementioned legal bullshit. Maybe, he should sue cz. What ? oh.
And maybe you should be looking nearer to home to ID the majority provider of bsv's woes. With creg, you lose. evryteim

>>16466425
Craig is nothing like Trump though and trying to ride Trump's coat tails does nothing to help Craig's losing streak

>BSV's end goal is against CZ's business model
>gets delisted
>proceeds to break into the top 10 anyway

>>16466441

>so tell me, who, in your opinion, has done most thus far to further the #delistBSV campaign ? I seem to recall, being booted from the largest crypto exchange was SOLELY and ENTIRELY the result of cregs aforementioned legal bullshit.

That's what happens when you get all your news from the same sources. This is what actually happened:

>Peter McCormack says, many many times, "please sue me, you're a fraud"
>Craig sues him because the guy is a mongrel with a popular podcast saying lies about him nonstop
>A bunch of anonymous accounts (Hodlonaut NPC army depicted in
>>16466335) launch a totally organic and legit campaign to put pressure on BSV
>BSVers actively taunt and mock CZ, hoping they get delisted
>He delists
>BSV pumps from $55 to $245 over the following month

The delisting was the best thing to happen to BSV

>>16466730
Excellent post, anon. Have a bump.

>>16466467
No they are very similar to anyone with a brain. Try again.

>>16466730
>>16467001
Yes, Congratulations ! Delisted !! Banished From Every Fucking Exchange Worth A Shit, Ostracised By The Entire Internet Outwith Your Kool-Aid Slurping Circlejerk - Well Done, You Won !!!
>>He delists
>>BSV pumps from $55 to $245
now, remind me again, what happened next

>>16466730
its at 95 now

>>16467071
Pure NPC. Also, nobody who knows what they're talking about gets this bitchy. Sorry, better luck next time.

>>16463932
No one is adopting shit. They will just make their own. Look at libra

>>16466054
Lmao pathetic cope. Craig got utterly BTFO in court. You don’t need to pay the opposing party’s legal fees unless your case was utterly spurious.

>>16467107
SAD
SO SAD

>>16467071
>being this assmad

>>16467071

>Every Fucking Exchange Worth A Shit

Stopped reading there

>Ostracised By The Entire Internet

You mean a couple hundred sockpuppet "cypherpunks" on Reddit and Twitter?

>now, remind me again, what happened next

What happens in every market cycle throughout history

>>16467017
No, they are not. Trump gets attacked by others and wins. Craig attacks others with lawsuits and loses.

>>16463339
The entire situation is explained away in a manner that satisfies both sides and almost all interventions between if Dave Kleiman were Satoshi Nakamoto.

post your favorite bitcoin updates

>>16463376
More like belongs in the trash

>>16463357
>CHILDREN ARE DYING ;__________;

>>16464827
Based and transactionvaluepilled

>>16464745
Everyone uses bitcoin for payments in places with capital controls.

>>16468357
>Doesn't remember the stream
Hi newfag

>>16463989
oh the chain that was recently 91% attacked?

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/9lfjrb/frequently_asked_questions_and_information_thread/

>>16463339
roger ver was cool before bch. bch sort of fucked himup. https://youtu.be/Ghmd8BNlLX0?t=20 also roger ver is xrp investor we know xrp is a scam so he could supporting bch so he can dump his xrp shitcoin profits into it so when xrp dies his funds are safu. he is also xinfin investor which is like xrp^2

"When the kid who is liked by nobody accidentally gets rich."

So here's the real crypto bluepill:

Craig Wright is unironically not Satoshi, the real Satoshi Nakamoto always wanted small blocks and segwit, "Peer to peer electronic cash" was simply a purposeful mistranslation of the Japanese. Blockstream - funded by Bilderberg group - saved Bitcoin by refusing to raise the 1mb block cap, preventing the blockchain from becoming cripplingly large. If they had not done this the blockchain could be as large as 500gb today meaning that Bitcoin node operators would have to upgrade from 500gb hard drives and pay for more storage space, ultimately leading to financial ruin and the death of the network.

Bitcoin as a store of value was just the first step, Blockstream is releasing the full version of the Lightning Network in 18 months, this will lead to a revolution in digital gold and decentralisation by routing all payments through Lightning banking nodes off-chain, this is why Blockstream is so intent to lower the block size to 300kb to incentivise adoption.

Back to hash power, as the price and adoption of BTC increases the blocksize will be gradually reduced to 0kb, closing off the blockchain completely, this will move all transactions onto Layer 2 (Layer 3 and 4 are also in development). With all transactions off-chain the greedy miners will have all their power removed and we will never see another hardfork ever again like the hard forking of 'Bitcoin Cash' and later 'Bitcoin SV' by the fraud Craig Wright (they have their own competing blockchain in the works), this will render the BTC protocol completely free from big blocker influence under the tight but decentralised fist of Blockstream.