/biz/ - Business & Finance

Go work for NASA

>>16434384
NASA does nothing interesting today anon (also good luck getting in as a white male) and I'm not falling for the SpaceX meme

Seems like major larp desu desu ngl ngl. Ivy’s have a great OCR network you can easily find a job

>>16434430
I wish I was LARPing

What's an OCR network?

>>16434372
>>16434397
>>16434469
Hey op, now just on the basis that you’re intelligent enough to be graduating from an elite institution with none other than a fucking math (lolnerd) degree is impressive as hell. It’s normal to not understand where one is necessarily going in life, I’ve felt similar at points.
Point is, I, as a sophomore at the University of Michigan with interest in whole myriad of topics that I think that you also might share (I mean the fact that we are both on /biz/ entails a base level of interest and knowledge in blockchain). That being said, add me on telegram and we can talk our current interests, where the world is going, and how we might be able to be at the forefront of that with some good ideas learned from one another :)

Telegram: @noahmc

>>16434372
Sounds like you're being pretty picky about what you do next. there's loads of opportunites for someone in your position.
>lern2code
You almost certainly have a good enough brain that the meme might work
>wallstreet
See above. math degree helps.
>oil rigs, mines
Unironically better pay than most entry level positions. Fly in/fly out gives you week-long stints to work on your own projects. Be honest with recruiters about only wanting to do 1 to 3 years while you figure your life out. Any shitjob out there pays well
>tutoring
Looks shit on resume so make sure you do something else at same time. Rich parents will pay top dollar for you though

>>16434372
Go work for a prop trading firm. I have a math degree from an Ivy (in the good half, albeit) and its heaven

>>16434469
>Columbia
>Ivy League
EH.. But go into some financial engineering shit they have there.

>>16434372
What are your red lines (non-negotiables) for work conditions? E.g., working >60 hours per week, poor benefits, isolated location, etc.

>>16434372
Why are you thinking about your future this late
All of the good postgrad destinations require lots of planning and legwork (software industry, i-banking, med school, promising PhD programs, etc)
You're a retard
Also fuck Columbia I know so many tards who went there kek

>>16434639
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>>16434708
>oil rigs, mines
I am very interested in this. How do I go about doing this? I really don't know anyone into these fields, everyone is really focused on consulting and finance - but maybe I need to deep digger. I would love to be working somewhere up north, near the Arctic after graduation.
>tutoring
I already do this and this does pay mad bucks, but I need to find more clients to truly live off it. Any idea how to expand beyond word of mouth?
>>16434733
The original Ivy League (4 Schools - IV): Columbia, Harvard, Yale Princeton. Columbia has more nobel prizes than any school except Harvard.
>>16434760
I would like to avoid working in a major city if I could. I also would like to work in a field where I can avoid directly competing with all my other Ivy peers. Seems like a pointless rat race to be chasing after the same Goldman position. I am a very competitive person though. More than anything, I wish for a position that I can distinguish myself in - however, I'm aware that this may be unrealistic for coming out of college.

Thanks anons for all the help

>>16434372
Look to get an MBA and start networking/interning/moonlighgting with somewhere to pad your stats and go from there...I'm 50 years old and I'll tell you its FAR better to have an education and do nothing/tangential with it than have no education and regret not trying. Don't let anyone meme you on bartending and shit because an education will always win out in the long run.
In the meantime, look to at least getting a weekend job somewhere, anywhere

>>16434917
>You're a retard
Completely agree.

I've spent my whole undergrad preparing to get into a PhD program - I have multiple publications. I don't want to do a PhD straight out of undergrad.

>Also fuck Columbia I know so many tards who went there kek
True too

>>16434959
>start networking/interning/moonlighgting
How do I go about this? My only network is with academics, professors in my research field.

I'm in NYC, any places where I go to hang out and network? I know the mass "networking" and career fairs are complete scams from personal experience. The best networking is obviously done in intimate, private settings, but I don't know how to put myself in these positions especially with non-academics

>>16434372
Lol

>>16434988
go to the fucking career fair you fucking retard

tell them you have a degree in math. lie about not being a sperg. congrats you'll be earning 6 figures in two years or less

>>16434988
Telegram, checked

>>16434988
you network 8 years before in boarding school

>>16435290
He said he went them you mong

>>16435350
This. You’re fucked OP

>>16434969
Most people in your position would just go to a PhD program and hope to exit as a quant researcher for hedge funds or software engineer generally.
It's not uncommon for math/physics/various engineering PhDs to learn coding on the side and join FAANG. You won't get as big a pay bump as you would think for the additional years in school but many PhD holders do very well at these tech companies (but that's not causation IMO it's just that PhD grads tend to be smart)
What makes me think you're trolling is that you're at a mid tier Ivy where everyone is a shallow careerist who knows all this shit + more as a high school sophomore and virtually no one is a sperg science geek who only does research, most of these types are at MIT or equivalent top schools in Europe, China, etc. Or they're at state schools that are good for STEM because they didn't do the whole jumping through hoops to get into Ivy undergrads shit. It's like you're telling us you're at UPenn and don't know what Wall Street is, the whole culture at top colleges is about getting ahead and social climbing and you're saying "help I know math but I know nothing about IRL"

>>16434372
Hey, I graduated with an Ivy League degree in math a few years ago as well. Mine was from Penn. I ended up trying to become an actuary. Still working on that though. You could try doing what I did. I'm open to suggestions too though.

>>16436114
I'm in basically the same position as OP but I'm like 2 years out of college and I'm still not great at this. It doesn't sound like he's LARPing to me at all. Also I would consider Columbia a top Ivy League, not middle. UPenn, my school, is middle though. I realize that.

>>16435290
I went to them as an undergrad and even got interviews for big Wall Street firms. Those jobs all went to Wharton kids though instead of me. The project I was eventually hired to work on for a large consulting firm fell through and I was let go with some other people. I've been floundering around struggling ever since.

>>16436180
Keep trying.

>>16436148
Actuary is a good field anon that pays well. I worked with them a bit when I was an auditor. Keep it up bro. I'd recommend towards the insurabce industry for the big bucks

Also check this guy OP

>>16436160
You're probably a good candidate for the learn2code meme. It's actually a great plan it's just that brainlets get roped into it and fail. Look up "Algoexpert", the guy behind the site is a Penn grad in math who did a bootcamp then worked at FAANG.
I mean Columbia is fine, Columbia College is pretty prestigious at least. Back in my day SEAS was pretty simple to get into with good stats and now there's all this dual degree shit with other universities watering down Columbia undergrad even more. 8 out of 10 grad programs there are shit. And just because CC as a school is prestigious doesn't mean their average alum is any good, hell no, you have more poli sci-> law school shitheads than you can count. I see the middle class of elite schools as being a resume bump for grinders/tryhards moreso than smart people going where they have to be in order to be engaged, that's more the realm of MIT, Caltech, maybe a few others if you're pursuing a difficult curriculum, elite overseas universities to their respective populations, etc

OP, my wife’s mother and two of her multimillionaire friends started a new business in an unspecified finance field in NYC. If you can crunch numbers, I mean really do big dick quant analysis, drop a throw away email and i’ll at least introduce you.

consider becoming a quant

>>16436360
goingtothemoon@protonmail.com

I was literally in your position 3 years ago. Top Ivy League with math degree (and statistics). I went the phd route. If you can stand the academic bs it’s not that bad a route. I had full time offers for big tech by start of 3rd year. I’m only continuing since I’m on track to graduate in 4 years and I think it will open doors.

Everyone saying go be a quant doesn’t know how hard it is. The top places, it’s not enough to be an ivy grad. You need to be able to pass the software engineering bar AND have math/stats/probability down AND have done interesting work (which you at least have from your publications). You also need prior internship experience at well respected places like big tech or finance or well known startups to even get an interview. This is all negated if you are Putnam or IMO medal level however.

>>16436958
Thanks anon. I’m too late to apply for this cycle anyways though. I think I need the year off from academia anyways. I really want to do something different for a year and leave all these neurotic people for some time. Really hoping I can do something in mining/oil honestly. Hopefully an anon who has more leads pop up ITT

>>16437081
No problem.

If you do eventually end up going the phd route, it sounds like you’re best off working for a bit first anyways since you seem a bit green. If you’re able to get some real working experience before starting the phd, you’ll be much more prepared on handling yourself in the program and setting yourself up for good work/internship experiences early on in grad school which will just make it easier and easier to get better experiences as you continue. You may feel shitty rn but you’re not in that bad a place as you think

>>16436948
She's out of town for a little bit, check that e-mail in like two weeks. I have to bring it up organically over time otherwise she will probably make me for recruiting some Ivy League kid on a white supremacist excel pivot table enthusiast forum.

I am in an entirely different field and do okay but the amount of money she deals with daily blows my fucking mind. If you throw a couple dollars my way when you make your megamillions as a finder's fee, we can call it even.

If it doesn't work out, I think you're gonna do okay and will probably look back on this thread and laugh.

>>16437081
Just practice interview algorithms in your year off and do some 1-2 mathy coding projects for your resume then apply to tech companies you'll get plenty of interviews with a high GPA from Columbia
This is what you'll have to do as a math grad student anyway to get non-academic jobs, people are just saying go to grad school because it'll be free and ADB/PhD dropout in math is a lot better for your resume than "uhh I went back to my childhood bedroom in Orange NJ and learned to code" even if they're functionally similar

>>16434372
Go work for NSA. Start the application today, because the clearance process takes forever. If you're really from the Ivy league thats an easy prestigious job to get.

>>16437257
True if all you want is a software engineering job or fake data science job. Although I’m not sure if you’ll make it to a target company in one jump.

If you also want to shoot for real data science jobs, research or applied scientist roles, then grad school will help. But don’t do math phd if you do do grad school. Do something where you can work on something very applied and relevant to industry. CS phd or top stats/ ML/ DS programs.

>am about to graduate with a math degree
i suggest you abstract yourself of your living conditions

>>16436316
>>16436284
I appreciate the encouragement. I'll keep at it. I've passed quite a few actuarial exams now and I'm starting to apply broadly again for positions in insurance again.

>>16436357
I'm trying to learn to code more as well though, mostly because it's important for an actuary and I remember being asked to look through a lot of code as an intern in actuarial consulting years ago. I'll check out "Algoexpert" too thanks.

>>16434397

Bruh, work for SETI instead. Find those ETs so I can storm area 51 for real my dude

Just wage for 60 years bro LOL!

>>16438144
Rude

>>16434988
meetup.com

i've met a good chunk of the nyc crypto community through meetups

>>16434397
>life is so hard as a white male

Retard

>>16434372
>Columbia University

>>16438946
Big if true

>>16438923
dilate