/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>16433479
ok boomer

>>16433479

>>16434429
what's the point of adding the 'nigga u gay' dude's face on the image? The original was fine.

it just doesn't make any sense.. the world doesn't make sense anymore to me..

>>16433479
Sounds like a good idea. Solar panels and DC are going to be real convenient soon. Can't believe the end of AC is already here.

>>16433479
Got 20oz in the mail as we speak

>>16433479
6 oz gold and 150 oz silver, and plan to continue stacking as long as I can. Hopefully I'll be able to get out of the country before they start confiscating like they did after the great depression

>>16434977
Confiscation isnt going to happen. It barely happened last time and now the Fed has loads of gold.

bought my first 50oz of silver a couple days ago. took 1 oz of each tube out to play around with. cant wait to get into some gold bullion now. is a 2silver:1gold ratio p good? im thinking of starting with a 1/4oz coin to start as i bought about $900 worth of silver.

>>16434449
it's just a rendition of a classic adapting to the culture of this board.

>>16435233
Personally, I only own two pieces of gold.
A 5 gram bar and a 1/10th ounce gold double eagle.
Really not worth it in my opinion and I literally just bought the 1/10th ounce the other day out of impulse.
I think the best thing for anyone to do is to just stick with silver and don't even worry about gold.

>>16435589
I don't disagree but why do you think that?

>>16433479
Am I allowed to take my silver out of the protective plastic sleeves? I have an uncontrollable urge to touch the bare silver and I want to know if it's safe/ keeps the same value / damages the metal. I have coins, if that matters.
Thanks!

>>16436190
Don't do that, contact with oil from your skin shaves 20% off the resale value. It's like driving a new car off the lot and immediately spilling your coffee

>>16436214
Thanks for the insight!

>>16436157
Well look, I think both are way undervalued but silver even more so.
For every ounce of gold that comes out of the ground, 9 ounces of silver comes out of the ground.
The current ratio is what like 86 to 1 silver to gold?
That literally makes no sense.
Add on to that the fact that over half of the silver ever mined is in landfills and most will never be recovered.
If all that wasn't enough, the amount of uses silver has in comparison to gold is staggering.
Medical applications, solar panels, electronics, etc.
Gold has some uses but it's mostly hoarded for it's monetary properties or it's used as jewelry.

>>16436214
>>16436259
I have a few little ingots that i like to handle; just a nice tangible object to hold.

imo i'd say it's fine with ingots but prob not a good idea with coins.

>>16436157
oh also even if the ratio never collapses(it will), you're still better off buying the silver because you can have the same amount of purchasing power spread out over multiple coins.
Kind of like having 20's instead of 100's.

>>16436557
>>16436716
Okay thanks friend! I was going to say, I hear a lot of talk about the ratio gap tightening, meaning either gold is going to go down in price as silver goes up. My only gripe with it is that It really is kind of a pain in the ass to store compared to gold, even only having 50oz, I have about a few pounds of metal to hide, versus one coin in gold. but that in itself is a double edged sword, like you mentioned. Silver can be seen as a fractional of gold.

tell me about silver

>>16436844
Well the thing you gotta remember too is, if the ratio collapses and silver's purchasing power suddenly skyrockets no is going be complaining that they don't have the room to store it.
I'm not saying don't buy any gold but there's really no reason to actually buy gold right now when silver is dirt cheap.
I only bought my 1/10th ounce gold eagle because I had been hyping it up in my mind for months and I really wanted the gold but now it's been a few days and that hype is long gone and I have buyer's remorse.

>>16437112
true, i guess in a sense, im also hyping gold up in my head. even though silver is still a really pretty shiny rock with a lot of potential, there's just something really primally attractive about gold that i can't seem to shake at the moment. and don't feel too bad, you could've bought a 1/4oz coin like I'm most likely going to and possibly regretted it even more lol

>>16437383
Gold is more desirable than silver but silver is really cheap atm, so much so that you can buy like 80 ounces of silver for 1 ounce of gold

>>16437444
fuck yeah. probably going to throw a few hundred more at some spot silver arctic falcon 1.5oz coins i found online pretty soon.

>>16437383
lol yeah I almost did buy a 1/4 ounce but I stopped myself.
I mean I don't completely regret it because I do like gold but it's just silver so much of better buy right now that I think people should just take advantage of it while they can.

>>16437537
please tell me im not the only one and you have some silver that you like to finger fuck and fidget with as well? i feel kinda bad because im scratching up some a nice BU coin from a tube i bought but at least im exercising some self control and not playing with the entire stack like i want to. i mean, they arent really collectible or numismatic being that theyre kangaroos and maples right?

>>16437579
Yeah I bought some cull silver eagles just for that purpose lol.
I also like fiddle with dimes and quarters just because they feel good in the hand.
I wouldn't worry too much getting a few of them a little messed up.

>>16437517
Link?
>not chainlink
But like to spot prices

>>16437693
https://www.providentmetals.com/bsf-2016-canadian-snow-falcon-15-oz-silver-coin.html
try to save some for the rest of us though, bud ;^)

>>16436190
Minted coins use gloves. Stamped bars/rounds use gloves but not as whoopsy if you don't. Many collectors like good tarnishing. Just don't go overboard. Collector rounds same thing, but folks will be more picky with these. Poured silver just go ahead and get freaky with it, it's getting melted again anyway.

>>16437728
Oh and gov minted graded collectors COINS? You breathe on that shit wrong and Tada, it's trash. Culled, save up and smelt a nice 10-15ounce dildo for the lulz. Fractionals, gloves are nice, not too serious if you don't use. 90 percenters wgaf, some kid in 1939 sneezed on it and it's still here.

>>16436190
i do it lol. my justification is that i have plenty of others that remain untouched by ungloved hands. also i doubt that rubbing metal with bare hands by a single person is enough to wear down silver to the point where significant metal content is lost, but any metallurgists correct me if I'm wrong

>>16437795
The metal won't wear down so much as tarnish. This gives LCS the edge in refusing to go better than say 5percent under spot (tho you can/should shop around for LCS). It's all about who you're trying to resell to. Not reselling? Do as you please and maybe your grandkids will have to hussle for the resale.

I love silver, glad I'm not the only one.

>>16433479

I hope these threads are getting archived

>>16433479
Bong here, Royal Mint delivered to my hand or one of these Online Trading Websites that offer VAT free storage?

I'm being serious, I've managed to save up almost £50,000 in recent years. But after the Brexit referendum price spike of gold and silver I'm thinking of something else than just Pound Sterling.

If it spikes again after the Brexit Meme reaches it's conclusion, I wanna be the one who's gonna laugh.

>>16433479
I have over 110 oz of silver all in maple leafs, should i buy more of bigger weight ones f.e 1kg bar or coin or should I stick with standard oz coins? Or maybe should I add some silver scrap?

>>16439388
buy something without reptilians on it. You are boosting their powers by holding that.

>>16433479
ok boomer

I just mine copper and spam rings to skill up.

>>16439409
the incuse maple leaf is so sick too. such a shame about the obverse. wish there were more incuse coins.

>>16436214
If anything contact from skin oil, assuming your natural skin doesnt have a fuck ton of ammonia like meat eaters do, will protect the silver from oxidizing. I had a musical instrument. Id know.

>>16439557
nice counter point. never really thought about that, but it makes sense

>>16439409
I'm with you on this. hate that all the 4-9s fine stuff has to have a hag on the back that is representative of oppression. any suggestions for 4-9s without it?

>>16433479
Silver now valued at over $1k based on debt.
https://usdebtclock.org/

Holy fuck silver is undervalued rn.

>>16440209
Silver 1k eoy?

>>16440232
>Silver 1k eoy?

This. Silver is the new link

Planning on ordering 100 oz of silver American Eagles from one of the online places like apmex, good idea?

How many oz silver to make it?

>>16440442
If you got the money, of course.
If there's a coin shop in your town you might be better off paying cash for it so there is no official paper trail.
They do not have to report the purchase of coins to the you know who.

>>16440209

1k is only based on American debt. Since global finance is now interlinked, the real value is over 10k.

>>16440232
No, but I can see it within 2 years.

>>16441007
Generous.

>>16440995
Even better.

all in on silver then?

>>16440519
besides the possibility of having your name on a list in the event of confiscation, why is it good to not leave a paper trail? I'm all for local coin shops but so far my searches on yelp have all taken me to shitty ones with shady staff/ownership. i recently found out, however, that provident metals has a directory of sorts to coin shops in a local area so i might give that a try.

>>16441466
Digits say yes.

>>16441523
Because corrupt niggers will sell the info to other stupid niggers looking for a free lunch. Just make sure you have a good amount of fire power.

>>16434449
What's the point in adding the "he looks so sad" message on the bottom? I don't need to be told what emotions an emoting face are making

>>16441551
the "just let him in" was the hehe funne part

>>16441551
I think it's a joke, like how liberals are always spouting " let the immigrants in!! They just want better opportunities!!", both are animals that will steal from you and hurt you if you give them a chance.

I just picked up this deal, which will be my final silver purchase for the year. This will break me well into the 100oz+ club.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/361870011015

>>16441602
Cool. Scottsdale is good quality stuff. Only thing that prevents me from getting its products is the lion logo. It looks too "new money" and tacky to me.

>"Haha why would you buy silver for aesthetics and how logos look? Silver is just silver bro"

Well there are so many brands that sell silver of equal quality so I have the luxury to choose based on how good a bar of silver looks.

>>16437709
ThNks looks like it’s already sold out though. Too bad

>>16437709
>>16441696
They're selling canadian silver @ spot price because of milk spots

>>16441531
nice. okay boys will show stack again when new acquisitions are made.
>>16441547
true. its a good thing i started stacking lead and brass first then.

>>16441650
yeah, but I have noticed that on /r/silverbugs the bugmen get the excited soiboi open-mouthed smile when they see those scottsdale stackers. So I figured if I need to unload them down the line I can maybe get a decent price.

>>16441909
Well there are a lot of fans that will buy them from you. I just don't like them personally.

<buy abstractions of switches

how many ounces of silver will i need to truly make it? I'm pushing close to 200 right now

>>16442158
1000 oz plus the same amount invested in a gold/silver mining fund

>>16442158
1k oz silver and I would also recommend getting min 10 oz gold

>>16442260
Can you give me a quick rundown on mining funds?

>>16442260

>>16442270

If i got 1100oz and 1oz gold would that be sufficent?

The rest of the family got 2050oz of silver in total and maybe 9oz of gold.

Will we make it?

>>16434921
nice! black Friday deal?? where from?

>>16442418
You need more gold.
You will probably make it anyways if you don't buy more gold.
Look at precious metals as a 100x minimum return, either through deflation or massive inflation, either way you cannot go wrong by holding that much.

>>16442418
Ever hear of kings currency? That would be gold. As much as I love silver, you really need some gold, and 1oz isn't enough.

>>16442418
yes you'll make it

>>16442459
Apmex is having a cyber monday sale, "any quantity" pricing on everything, basically means the volume discount you get for 100+ oz you get no matter what.

I'm taking out new credit cards that provide sign-up bonuses and then buying gold/silver with them. The Chase Sapphire has $95 annual fee and $600 bonus when spending $4k in first few months. As long as you pay the card off right away and don't incur interest, that's a damn good discount

>>16442499
Well ofcourse i know of it, but still, silver will probably rise more than gold. So what is even the argument to buy gold except for the king part?

>>16441752
yeah but i mean if you can pick up silver at spot isnt is still silver with the spots? if just for stacking I dont care that much is that the only thing that would be holding you back from buying? if not that what are you stacking? i personally love franklin halves

>>16442337
Physical is great and all, it'll go up a lot, but with demand being manipulated so much it's the miners that stand to gain the most from a currency crisis.
>>16442562
Dumb boomers think it's better just because muh gold standard...even though the gold/silver ratio clearly shows which has the most to gain if we go on it again.

Does anyone have the graph comparing gold to bitcoin in a table layout?

>>16436214
lmao at this stupid shit

>>16436892
watch Silver Bullion TV on youtube, they do some good interviews

>>16442499
Well how many is enough, if you're going to provide vague answers, you're better off just not fucking replying to this thead...

>>16442760
Fuck Franklin, fucking satanist pedo traitor.

>>16442534
the house always wins

>>16442760
If it's spot price of course it's a great deal with or without milk spots. I'm just saying why there are so many sales on 2010-2017 canadian silver.

Anyways I lost a shitton of money from buying canadian collectible coins due to milk spots. Never again.

>>16443479
alright

>>16433479
Gold money is a nigger scam
From 2020 they will charge a 10$ / Month storage fee.

>>16437579
Kinda in the same boat.

What silver good is the most fun?

Debating coins or a literal silver bell since both seem fun to fuck around with. Looked into some silver bullets for the lolz as well.

>>16443851
just get a hefty hand poured bar for holding fun

>>16443839
I'm glad I got all my money out of his shit a while ago

>>16437579
I have mostly poured silver with a few ASE’s. Bars are just too kino to pass up.

>>16433479

>Buying an illiquid, physically cumbersome boomer metal for spot prices, which are an immediate 5% haircut if you wanted to sell it back immediately.

>Doesn't pay interest or dividends

>No cash flows

Jesus.

If you're into Boomer metals, you could at least be buying the miners, companies with real assets and cash flows.

>>16444296
Precious Metals are not investments. They are just lifeboats

>>16444296
Stocks don’t pay cash flows anymore.
Only retards get into stocks unless you’re a Jew.

>>16444296
Precious metals have been a store of value (not investments btw) for 4000 years. No other asset on the planet can make that claim

>>16434983
There is zero (0) gold in fort knox

>>16444347
>Precious metals have been a store of value (not investments btw) for 4000 years.

Considering how primitive and inefficient societies have been beyond the last 500 years, that's a terrible fucking argument.

Would you trust surgery procedures from 4,000 years ago?

>>16444413
>Comparing surgeries to gold
What a weird argument.

Water and iron were valuable commodities then, and it still is now.

>>16444268
how have you managed to fuck up a 2019 that bad, is this you?

>>16444667
I keep it my pocket when I’m at work for good luck.

>>16444685
based

>>16444685
Tfw I was unironically thinking about doing this. Does it work?

I got a crazy idea. So you can buy a ton of scrap copper online. Can you middle-man scrap copper to a local scrap yard? I found places in the USA that will sell copper by the metric ton for a couple of houndred dollars. I know it's copper and spot price is low. But if you literally get 2,200lbs for a few hundred even if shipping cut into it, will be profitable.

>>16444730
he just got fired today

>>16444731
too much work and expenses for small profits

>>16444731
>can i buy copper from a scrapyard and then sell it to a scrapyard for a profit after shipping
yes

>>16444730
Haven’t had a super sad death in a while so I guess (EMT). I actually gave the dirty one In the pic I posted away. We were on a call where a minivan got smoked and there was a little girl in it who was scared out of her mind. I gave it her and told her to hold on to it for me, that it was my lucky magic coin and it kept me safe and how it’ll keep her safe too.

>>16443851
well between my two coins that i have right now, i can tell you i like the 1oz kangaroo more than the 1oz maple leaf. i enjoy the variety of textures of it plus the larger diameter makes it nice to flip around the hand. if only if it was as thick as or thicker than the maple leaf, then i think it would be perfect.

>>16437579
>>16443851
>>16443873
>>16437639
I really want to get a 10oz or a hefty 1kg silver skull from atlantis mint in order to satisfy this feel. Then I can leave the rest of my stack alone while I autistically play with the skull and I don't care if it gets messed up since it's poured silver. Culled or 90% silver would work too.

>>16445265
I never understood the appeal of novelty shaped silver (e.g. skulls, gun shaped, etc) but go for it bro

>>16445381
It's a meme, I know. But for some reason I want to have one and then have the rest be strictly eagles and bars.

>>16445265
yeah those are pretty cool too

>>16445381
The sugar skulls are pretty cool.

>>16445561
The sugar skulls go a bit too far for me, kek.

>>16445265
This is exactly up my alley (I was the earlier poster) but sadly not quite the level of detail I wanted.

May look around for more custom mint options

ok i bought today
sell away

>>16445591
Can you make something cooler?

>>16445591
The atlantis skulls in your pic reminds me of something I'd find in some fat trashy pagans house.

>>16445265
I guess you either love a fancy design or a simple bar. I'd say bars are more practical, but if the world goes to shit a silver skull would be almost an artifact.

>>16447388
sell signal

>>16444997
Based anon I hope that little girl has good luck for the rest of her life

>>16433479
>Carrying 120k worth of silver through tsa


Ngmi

>>16444444

>>16436190
>>16436214
>>16437728
y'all are the boomer equivalent of those loser man children who buy action figures for kids and never take them out of their cases because who the fuck knows why

>>16433479
> Investment Gold Bars are VAT free
> Golden Coins are Capital Gains Tax free
> Silver is double-penetrated by both CGT and VAT
> Gold is high right now
> Silver is low

You think it's a good idea to buy silver, even with all the taxation on it? Why not wait for the Gold to go down again?

>>16449005
>Silver is double-penetrated by both CGT and VAT

what country do you live in?

>>16449542
UK, but the rules are EU-wide. We'll see how it looks after Brexit meme is finalized.

Silver Queen-approved coins are CGT free, but that 20% VAT makes it pointless to invest seriously into silver bars.

Gold on the other hand is sky-high, only /biz/tards would buy right now.

>>16444413
Never go full retard.

why do people not understand that use cases are actually bearish. silver wont perform well because its being used much

>>16449579
Look into acquiring some pre 1920 silver coins. They are 92.5% pure, no VAT and are considered collectibles rather than an investment. I have around six kilos of pre 1920 British coins, I'd say they're pretty cool

>>16449752
>silver wont perform well because its being used much
You'd think it's gonna be the other way around. Because China needs so much of it and gold is simply too expensive now, silver might yet surprise everyone.

Anyway, it's always good to have a few bars in the drawer. Just in case it goes high like in 2011.

>>16449781
So, counting in my head:
6kg of sterling silver would be worth about £2000 if you want to sell it quickly.
6kg in 6 bars of .999 is about £2500

You might be right, I'll have to play with the numbers a bit more later and see. Maybe it's not a bad idea.

Also, I wish you well. May you sell it all when it hits £999 per kg.

>>16449869
Trust me, it's not a bad idea if you want to buy into silver without being taxed to death. Just be careful to check all the coins. Pre 1947 is 50% purity, pre 1920 is sterling. Everything after is funny money. Read into it, it's quite interesting.
Once India was granted independence and our Empire dissolved (1947), our government completely removed silver from our currency.

It's a shame too, our florins and shillings were quite beautiful.

>>16442158
Depends what you mean by 'make it'
If you mean be able to feed yourself and house yourself, 1000 OZ of silver should be more than enough
If you mean become very rich, then alot of patience, 1000+ OZ silver and 40 OZ of gold.

>>16449798
usecase means there is a industrial production that can scale up according to demand. they will just pump out more silver, you cant do that the same way with gold

>>16445265
Those skulls are sweet. I want one sometime soon, but I can't stop buying bars.

>>16449005
damn it feels good to not be a eurocuck as a pm stacker. paid zero taxes on my silver

>>16450137
This

>>16449579
I buy from Belgium every month and it's VAT free. Same with Estonia. Look into goldsilver.be if you want decent silver prices in the UK.

>>16449798
>gold is simply too expensive now
You think it’s too expensive now? Wait until it hits $4k+ an ounce. You think it’s crazy? A hedge fund or individual just recently bet $1.75 million it will be over $4000 by June 2021.

>>16449752
>>16450021
One of the several reasons why silver will keep losing ratio to gold.
If you srly wanna hedge against doomsdays or recession, gold is the way to go.

>>16433479
Ok, quick question guys. Let's say I buy 100oz of silver, or any large amount really, in 1oz coins. If the economy collapses, what's it good for? I can't trade it in for money, because money is now useless, and I can't trade it for commodities, because no one in their right mind would give away food or clean water in exchange for some shiny rocks.

Is silver really good for anything other than holding on to in case the prices go up so you can sell it with profit?

I'm not trying to shill, I'm genuinely curious. Can someone explain to me exactly why I should buy silver?

>>16451264
Quick answer:
Gold/Silver is excellent for recessions and depressions where the economy and civilization in general still functions 100%.

What you're mentioning is an economic collapse and/or SHTF. Be a prepper (survivalism, hoarding food and commodities) for this.

Two different goals and scenarios. I personally don't think we will ever have a full collapse; that's too costly and involves too much work from the elites. At worst we will have another great depression. Realistically we will just have a very looooooong recession.

>>16451332
Based, thanks. Guess I should start stacking then.

>>16451264
Hello fren.
> If the economy collapses, what's it good for?
It's good to keep you at the same level you were before the collapse, unlike 95% of the society.
> I can't trade it in for money, because money is now useless
Nor should you, as you said, paper money would be useless.
> I can't trade it for commodities, because no one in their right mind would give away food or clean water in exchange for some shiny rocks
"If a shop doesn't accept your silver, you're in a wrong shop."
In Venezuela, families who got old american silver coins long ago now are comfy, even thriving. A single sterling silver coin is enough to feed a family for almost a month. You are wrong, shiny rocks will ensure your survival in these hard times. That's why rich people stack up gold and silver.
>Is silver really good for anything other than holding on to in case the prices go up so you can sell it with profit?
It's good for that but it's also a safety mechanism for the financial crisis of any kind. There is a reason why in 2008 prices of gold and silver went to the moon, check the graphs yourself.
>Can someone explain to me exactly why I should buy silver?
Because you're a part of the most fucked-in-the-ass generation there ever was and you will probably get no retirement money (but you don't know about it yet and the government is happy about it) unless you stack up some nice pile of gold and silver and sell it all when you can no longer work. It should be enough for the rest of your life.

Buy silver, wait for the gold to go down a little bit and buy gold. If market ever crashes (it does it sometimes lel) buy whatever is cheaper at the time as much as you can safely afford (no more than let's say 20% of your savings).

There is no hope for our generation other than stacking precious metals. Paper money completely belongs to the Long Nose Tribe at this point. Don't bet your future on it.

>>16452233
Thanks Anon. Really interesting about Venezuela, I googled it and it seems you're correct. Definitely going to start investing now.

Should I just buy silver or save up so I can buy a few ounces of gold as well?

>>16452710
Go with silver for now. Dont dive in, just buy a little here and there as close to spot price as possible.
Silver to gold ratio is very high right now at 85.

>>16450902
Hedge fund bet 1.75 million. That's pennies for a hedge fund.

>>16449963
I want this coin :( why it gotta be multiple thousands...

>>16449781
Where'd you get those nice looking bags???

>>16452998
What bags? Plastic bags? The grocery store mah nigga.

>>16453027
Lol, no the bronze looking ones. The coins look nice and layed out

>>16452710
Educate yourself first. Make sure you understand the taxes related to silver in your country.
Europe is fucked in that regard, silver is taxed twice. First with VAT and then with CGT. It's easy to buy silver for way more than you'll be able to sell it, unless it goes sky high like it did in 2011.

I'd watch some YT videos and read some info before investing.

>>16452990
>or individual
What’s your reading comprehension level?

>>16453195
Lol your right, i shoulda read that you had no source and didn't even know if it was a person or entity. Sorry dont normally respond to retards my bad :^)

When Deutsche Bank goes bankrupt and trillions in silver shorts get destroyed, we're all gonna be RICH.

Look it up, there are five trillion dollars being used to suppress the paper price on a market with only one billion physical ounces.

>>16450021
You can't just scale up silver production, there are very few primary silver mines and one of the biggest in the world just shut down after being depleted despite making eight million ounces last year. Peak silver is upon us, I own ten senior mining companies and five junior mining companies, zero exploration companies and have researched it for years. Trust me I know more about this than you.

>>16453291
Ho-Lee-Schit!

>>16453291
>only one billion physical ounces
that's how much was mined last year. not how much currently exists physically

>>16453053
Look for smell proof marijuana bags, that's what they remind me of.

>>16453069
Thanks for the warning Anon. Surprises no one that my country fucks me over with taxes, but it seems coins with actual denominations are pretty fairly priced.

>>16453461
What an ugly little jewish boy...

>>16453316
So, you live in the UK, VAT on silver is 20%. CGT is off if you decide to only buy the Queen's Coins instead of bars.

Would you still invest in silver anyway? And I mean invest heavy, like 60% of your savings + take a loan and buy some more.

What about production? 50% of all silver is used to make stuff, what happens then? It all shifts to just being an asset?

>>16453278
Google it bitch, I don’t spoon feed NEET bois.

>>16436214
Wrong

>>16453542
Most silver comes as a by-product of base metal production. If there is an industrial slowdown, base metal mining is stopped and the vast majority of silver production will be lost.

Nobody is saying go into debt to buy silver, it's not an investment, it's a way to protect and store the wealth you already have. Debt only makes sense if there is a dividend or yield greater than the debt's interest rate.

>>16453291
were all gonna make it

What $ ratio of gold/silver should I have?

I know I should go all in on silver, but pic related

>>16454869
100 times more silver than gold is my ratio. The good thing is that it's really heavy so any thieves would need a forklift to steal it in one go

Should I trade in some gold for a monster box of silver?

>>16433479
Mine just arrived half an hour ago. I'm going to get another 10 minted from the US and Australia.

>>16455244
If you dont already have silver, yes definitely. It's hard to barter with real gold unless you take a huge loss.

>>16451264
>no one in their right mind would give away food or clean water in exchange for some shiny rocks.
this isn't necessarily true
there will be people with farms and large stockpiles of food that will be willing to trade and silver/gold is one of the best items to have for trade because it's universal

>>16449752
>>16450021
>>16450925
Glad to see some anons understand. While silver's stock-to-flow used to be 22, it's collapsed to 3 in just a few decades. Sure, you can speculate on the price, but it's no longer useful as a store of value.

>>16453461
why did no one make rule 34 of her

>>16451264
>no one in their right mind would give away food or clean water in exchange for some shiny rocks
Some people will have more cows than they need.
Some people will have more potatoes than they need.
Some people will have more clean water than they need.
Some people will have a surplus of other basic necessities.
Money simply makes it easy and frictionless for one person to trade their good or service for another without having to work out how many potatoes or beans or gallons of water a cow is worth. Someone can trade their cow for money that doesn't go bad unlike food, then use that money to buy only enough food that they need in the short term.

>>16455334
mmmm. nice maples friend. I also have some and kangaroos as well. when you get the eagles, take a pic with all three so I can see what my potential future might look like

What do you guys think about the canadian voyageur dollars from the 50's and 60's? They are 80% silver, and each coin has .600 of a troy ounce of silver in them. I can get them for barely above spot and I love the design and big silver coins in general. My only concern is how easy they would be to sell in the united states and if i would have to sell them below spot.

>>16455511
So they'd trade something actually practically useful for a shiny peice of metal?

>>16455916
Yes. If I have an abundance of bic lighters I'm not going to take another bic from you as payment for my food/water/labor. You may want to trade the apples you grow for some milk, but the farmer doesn't want them. Silver/gold is the solution to that exchange. I don't think it will get to that point but that's the gist of it.

>>16455901
How long before that "don't buy coins with that reptilian old hag" faggot shows up?

>>16455126
100x more silver, by weight or $ value?

>>16455901
>barely above spot
Where are you getting them because all the Canadian sites here have them at high premiums. The lowest I could find was 25% premium off the spot. I’d rather just buy a maple leaf bullion ounce which is cheaper and cost effective for me.

>>16456690
100oz silver for every 1oz gold.

>>16455901
I've been wanting to pick some up for a while, definitely a nice looking coin and if you can get them cheap then even better.
I don't think they'd be that hard to sell here in the US.

>>16456661
I've been here this whole time fag. plot twist here is that you're the one who brought it up, not me.

Just got a 5 gram gold bar and 1 ounce ASE in the mail today. Also took one of my silver bars out of the packaging just to touch.

Feels good man.

>>16456701
maybe try the local coin stores

150oz of silver
2.4 oz of gold

this is more fun than collecting pokemon cards

>>16457428
based
that's a nice stack you got going there

i cant wait untill i can buy a property with a handful of silver....feels good man

>>16457428
Yeah it's pretty fun. Shiny pretty stuff + good potential to make money. There are few hobbies like stacking.

>>16453291
Gonna need a source on this one, tried to find it but failed.

>>16457763

https://youtu.be/sMMwK4aiti8

>>16457485
As someone with 1500 ounces I should be able to buy an apartment block then

>>16456690
That's basically the same thing at these ratios

>buy a >$100 sentry safe (the one with three bolts and combination lock, not digital) from Home Depot to put my valuables in it
>watch that video of lockpickinglawyer saw a similar model with ease
Uhh, fuck. Where should I put all this shit? In a gun safe? I figure I could buy a cheap fire-resistant SentrySafe lockbox and put it inside a bigger gun safe that may not necessarily be fire-resistant.

How do I get a >300 lb safe up my stairs?

>>16458012
Put a lot of tied plastic bags filled with worthless shit in the safe as a distraction/time waster and hide your true valuables between walls or ceilings/floor

>>16458048
That's a good idea, too. I'll put some burlap sacks with rocks in them.

Fuck, I just wish I hadn't put so much effort into that safe. I even bolted it to a wood stand I made.

>>16458012
>buy a huge safe
>put it in the closet
>hide your shit elsewhere in the attic

Mfw these niggers steal an empty safe

>>16458048
Also if you want to play triple mind games with the bad guys then put some goodies in the safe (like 1 5 oz bar of of silver and like $300 in crumpled up $1 bills) randomly to make the guys think that's all the good stuff there is in your home and just leave your home alone.

If the safe has nothing but trash then the robbers might get suspicious that the home owner was being a wiseass and there must be something to steal.

>>16458060
No don't just put rocks in them. The robbers might think you're being a wiseass with them and get pissed off. They will do property damage and/or try even harder to find the real goods.

Put in a lot of heavy scraps and other trash and sprinkle some semi-valuable things in the safe to make them think you were actually using the safe.

Also does anyone else have a 5 oz silver Acadia quarter?

Those seem to be worth more than the other 5 oz America the Beautifuls. Is it just because it looks pretty?

>>16458071
>>16458080
>>16458069
Also good point. Shit, I really need to put myself in a burglar's mind.

>>16458085
check the mintage numbers. See if this specific coin was made less than others.

I used to have a 2010 Libertad that I gave away for near spot price because I didn't need it. I later found out that it's 3x spot price because only few were minted in 2010.

fuck

>>16458085
Don't Eisenhowers have no silver in them?

>>16458095
Good point. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America_the_Beautiful_silver_bullion_coins#Coins_released_to_date_in_the_Series

But I still see like, Denali having a lower price even though it was minted less than Acadia.

https://www.apmex.com/product/68005/2012-5-oz-silver-atb-denali-national-park-ak
https://www.apmex.com/product/67997/2012-5-oz-silver-atb-acadia-national-park-me

>>16458106
Yeah that sleeve is lot of bullion mixed with non bullion since I collect coins in general.

Which of these would look best in 5 oz of silver?

>>16458141
None of them, they all look stupid as fuck.

>>16458060
Also, something to note is that if the safe is smaller and portable (and not bolted to ground), then you must assume that robbers will just happily take the safe and open the safe someplace else where it's safe for them (thus they won't check the contents immediately). For these safes, feel free to put the heaviest shit in there with no valuables (lots of metal or stones).

If the safe is massive and immovable, then your goal is to make them waste time and make them demoralized and full of adrenaline-fueled panic. For this follow my advice of putting lots of random confusing shit in lots of tied plastic bags. This will make them panic ("what the fuck is all this shit??") while the small sprinkled valuables will make them satisfied enough because they just get the fuck out due to the adrenaline (fight or flight).

I think my useless psychology degree is helpful for thinking of shit like this

>>16458141
The one with the monkey playing pretend pilot.

>>16458146
Come on the bat eyes look goofy, I'm gonna order one for the meme lmao.

>>16455244
No. Just buy a monster box with fiat.

>>16458151
It's your money pal. As long as they don't have the queen on them, not because she might be a reptile, but because she's an ugly old miserable cunt.

>>16458148
I wonder if they'd get creeped out by voodoo dolls and blair witch stick figures, or just annoyed.

>>16457428
I love these cringy fantasy silver coins. Vader looks sweet too, love your collection.

>>16458012
Distraction packages all around the house and a few in more ridiculous places like . Put the real deal somewhere unconventional. Can't help you any more, look around your house and think like a thief.

>>16457100
kek

Whats the best storage method for silver eagles? Anybody use these? https://www.jmbullion.com/40.6-mm-air-tite-coin-tube/

>>16458305
kek throw in some fake vials of blood, bundles of hair and some pictures of people for maximum spook

>>16456701
plenty of american sites have them for less than a dollar above spot per coin

>>16458106
The S mint bicentennial Eisenhower dollars are silver. The others are copper clad.

Burger here, only make like 35k/year. I currently own 70 oz. silver. Am I fucked? I don't really have much money to invest with and some anons said that it is pointless for me to diversify in crypto, stocks and PMs since I'm so poor. What do I do? Get more silver since it is cheaper or set fiat aside and save for oz of gold?

>>16459502
Fuck those anons. Buy crypto. I was making 24k/yr when I bought 164 Eth at $7 and then sold it about 2 years later at $1250. Now I'm buying Tezos. Silver is a store of value and is only getting more expensive because the dollar is being devalued. Buy it after you make money on investments.

>>16459607
I currently have 0.83 BTC, 12 LTC, 8 ETH and 1180 LINK. What targets would you make for these?

>>16437728
If you do go to sell that silver that’s “brilliant” but not in a certified casing they are not going to give you more money compared to their normal above/below spot price ratio

>>16458860
bump. also curious about this

>>16458860
Recommend you get the normal US mint tubes

>>16460531
thx fren

>>16459685
i dont know much about anything but dump the ltc and eth for BTC (should give you about 1 total) then accumulate silver and link.

>>16460909
I'm new to this world and unfortunately bout the LTC around 110 and ETH around 230. Think I'll just hold onto those ans brute force to 1 BTC. How much LINK to target?

>>16433479
Any bizlets have any palladium ?

>>16461346
Suicide stack has always been 10k but 1k would be a start

>>16461346
The dream is 1000 oz silver and 10k link.