/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>16372662
Look for Karlie Kloss, her tutorials are the best to teach you how to code

learn Python and learn it's best libraries well
if you learn how to properly utilize other people's hard work it will instantly make you better than average. It is more about being good power user than some coding guru

There are so many languages I don’t know which one is the best to invest learning time in

>>16372723
it doesn't matter as much as you think it does.

>>16372662
Dont bother, its too complicated and you just end up spending 5 mins of progress for hours and hours of looking for solutions to problems on stackoverflow. If you wanna do anything blockchain related you have to use NPM which just dumps problem after problem after endless problem on you. It's not fucking worth it. It's just one roadblock after another. Like I said, youll achieve 5 mins of progress but then hit another stumbling block which can take days to resolve. Its a fucking meme.

>>16372698
This is a good idea. scripting is universally needed, so finding work with a solid foundation in Python SHOULD be easy, granted you stick to data science/analytics. That, or automation scripting. Get familiar with the matplotlib.

>>16372662
Language doesn't matter because a good coder will switch from one to another in like 2 weeks

>>16372662
You can get sas university edition and get a udemy course. It has prebuilt libraries you can use for examples.

>>16372830
What language

>>16372662
If you want max gains you need a cs degree or you're not serious.

For everything else you're looking at web or app development. Honestly dont know too much about app development, theres a lot of frameworks and languages you could learn to get into that. You don't need all of them it depends what platform you're using (android or ios). You can make some pretty good money once you get over the learbing curve. I chose web dev. Its pretty easy to get started on frontend and move your way back to the backend to reach full stack status. You'll have to do a deep dive to see if its right for you but..

>>16372784
This guy isn't lying you'll run into problems a lot and you'll be talking to smarter people than you a lot about how to fix it but thats the job you problem solve and figure shit out. If thats annoying to you then find something else. But if you do decide then stick to one language until you have mastered the fundamental concepts of programming then bramch out from there and read a lot of books and do a lot of tutorials.

>>16372662
is working remotely as a web developer still a viable trade these days. I have a couple years of programming coursework with a variety of object oriented languages but stopped using it over time. Does it mostly involve creative aspects like design and layout, or is it primarily back end and database work? what are good places to start and learn more about various aspects of web development?

>>16372662

It is called Math, faggot

>>16372866

Look at Upword, it will show you what is in demand and a hourly rates

>>16372958
Thanks, I did a couple years of programming courses in school and enjoyed it. learned a lot of the fundamentals but spent a lot of my time helping others get caught up. fell out of it after a while because there was nowhere local to continue learning about it. What I would really prefer would be to actually watch a developer work and see what exactly they do, how the various languages interact and tie together.

>>16372662
Obviously this is more of a /g/ related question but all you leet codefags out there making bank, what laptop do you recommend for coding? Is the new 16" MBP worth it?

>>16373100
use whatever you're comfortable with, it doesn't really matter what you use as long as it's not super slow, virus-ridden, or otherwise unreliable, especially when you're just getting started. macs are nice and used by a lot of different types of devs, but the only situation where you *need* one is if you're making iOS or macOS apps.

>>16372662
You only need a handful of things.

Node Js, express, vanilla js, sql, nosql, vanilla js, html, css

>>16373100
Find a 3-4 yr old thinkpad get ram 16gb 1tb ssd ur good to go

>>16372662
Stack Overflow survey: Nearly half of developers are self-taught
https://www.infoworld.com/article/2908474/stack-overflow-survey-finds-nearly-half-have-no-degree-in-computer-science.html

https://www.freecodecamp.org/

https://lambdaschool.com/
“With online classes taught by live instructors and one-on-one mentoring, Lambda School is your gateway to a new career in just 9 months. And the best part? You won't pay a cent until you land a high-paying job.”

Jobs currently available
https://www.indeed.com/jobs?q=Javascript&l=

This Week In Startups. Keep up to date with the cutting edge of tech from and investing lens
https://www.youtube.com/user/ThisWeekIn

I recommend learning js and node.js so you can do both front end and back end.
Front end I recommend React.js cause Facebook actually uses it on their site.

https://stackoverflow.com/jobs/salary

The big trend coming up is called "serverless"
If your willing to take some risk learn this
https://aws.amazon.com/amplify/
TLDR on serverless
Build apps that only cost money when people actually use them.

Using Amplify I built a CRUD app in like 3 hours with nested object models and authorization.

Practice coding for finance
https://www.quantopian.com/
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC606MUq45P3zFLa4VGKbxsg/videos
They provide free stock data you can analyze

My tip is to start watching and coding the freecodecamp stuff on basic html as that will give you confidence.
https://www.freecodecamp.org/learn/responsive-web-design/basic-html-and-html5/

Then listen to podcasts about coding because you will see the people who do magical coding things are just as confused as you are but just about more complicated problems.

Remote coding jobs
https://remoteok.io/
https://angel.co/remote

>>16373367
>Find a 3-4 yr old thinkpad get ram 16gb 1tb ssd ur good to go
I agree I bought a lenovo thinkpad x240 and its great for coding.

>>16373523
are you the options trader anon?

>>16373636
>are you the options trader anon?
maybe...
kek!
what's happening fren?

>>16373687
kek
hi fren, thought I recognized your helpful posting style
well I have a question for you:

in your options threads you talked about selling options for income and gave some examples of traders who were making their income this way. This is also something I have seen in youtube channels, eg. option alpha.
however, I recently watched Anton Kreil's options course, and he pretty much said
>never sell naked options for income, because you will 100% lose everything on some tail risk event sooner or later even if the probability of it happening is really small. Everyone who is trying to tell you that you can earn an income this way doesn't have your best interests in mind, and probably tries to sell some subscription service to you etc.

what is your opinion on this? Is selling naked options for income actually a meme? Is the only safe play to sell puts on stocks you want to buy

>>16373775
>what is your opinion on this?
You should definitely avoid selling naked options cause you can wipe out your account with a tail risk.

>Is selling naked options for income actually a meme?
Selling naked options is dangerous, but selling options done right can be safe.

>Is the only safe play to sell puts on stocks you want to buy
Selling a put on a stock you want to buy is the easiest way to start. That being said selling spreads is safe too. To avoid tail risk when selling naked options you could sell spreads where the risk is determined so it is impossible to wipe out your account.

Here is a video that explains the difference between selling option spreads vs naked options.
https://youtu.be/Jyfkbpz6ml4

Have you found any stocks you are thinking of selling a put on?

here is the options part of my trading copy pasta

Learn to trade options form ex floor traders
https://www.youtube.com/user/tastytrade1/videos

Why selling options has profits
https://www.tastytrade.com/tt/shows/market-measures/episodes/actual-vs-implied-moves-07-16-2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amao0pJE1XI

Guy makes a million a year on 5 million consistently selling options
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCg6XBPhtVqntGhtAblXxybg/videos

>>16374263
>You should definitely avoid selling naked options cause you can wipe out your account with a tail risk.
This should be just naked calls.
Naked puts are defined risk.

How Defined Risk Spreads Work | Options Trading Concepts
https://youtu.be/yWJzxfssVF8

>>16373523

Add DataCamp to that list... It's not free, but it costs like 25 dollars a month, and you can go balls deep into Python or R.. they also teach SQL, spreadsheets and some other normie job pre requisites.

Also, eventually they have firesales (like on black friday and new years) where you can buy the full year subscription for like 100 bucks

>>16372698
there are very few python libraries worth using. "import program" or "import solution" is a meme repeated exclusively by brainlets and 40k salary cucks. Any problem worth paying an expensive developer to solve is too complex for any generic library to solve any relevant portion of. This is ignoring that 99% of the PyPI is absolute garbage insecure shitcode written by troglodytes that make indians look like einstein

>>16374456
Thanks fren I'll check out datacamp.
https://www.datacamp.com/

I wanted to learn data science skills next, so great timing for your recommendation.

>>16373775
Also you could buy a stock and sell a call to get started.

>>16374530
Best 100 bucks I've ever spent. Hopefully I'll finish my Data Analyst course by the end of next month

>>16375030
>Best 100 bucks I've ever spent. Hopefully I'll finish my Data Analyst course by the end of next month

based and excitedpilled!

you looking to work in any particular industry?
also for practice projects do you just get them from github to play around with your new skills.

>>16375065
I finished my undergrad in econ last July. Enrolled in a post graduate program to study some BI and BA, found out about DataCamp and decided to learn to code on the side. I'm still making up my mind to whether I want to purse a professional career or an academic one (going to take a trip to the Andes in January for 3 weeks to be completely by myself and reflect on what I want to do with my life next)...

DataCamp has a practice library for some short exercise practice, and they also have a nice project library in which you can undertake some bigger problems to solve. By the time those become easy for you to do, you'll probably have enough knowledge to fuck around with data on the internet by yourself for whatever you want to do

>>16375157
>(going to take a trip to the Andes in January for 3 weeks to be completely by myself and reflect on what I want to do with my life next)...
have fun on your trip.

>>16372662
>How do I learn to code?
be learning the only kode you need to know
>kode 9
https://youtu.be/-u1sGhHDB2k
>pic related
>base 9

>>16372662
>What code should I learn for max financial gains?
The money code

I'm not going to teach you all my secrets. But I will start by saying learn javascript it is what the internet is build on. Then learn how to use a modern javascript framework like Vue.

>>16372680
oh you. :^)

>>16375065
Kaggle is good for practice projects

>>16375910
>Kaggle is good for practice projects
I forgot about that site.
Saved it to my bookmarks.

Thanks fren

this thread reeks of pleb white guys scrapping for the last few diversity hire jobs so they can be the token white guy in a room full of H1Bs, no one with a triple digit IQ would ever take these cuck jobs seriously

>>16372698
>learn Python and learn it's best libraries well
>if you learn how to properly utilize other people's hard work it will instantly make you better than average.
>>16372805
>This is a good idea. scripting is universally needed, so finding work with a solid foundation in Python SHOULD be easy
>>16372830
>You can get sas university edition and get a udemy course. It has prebuilt libraries you can use for examples.
>>16372958
>Look at Upword, it will show you what is in demand and a hourly rates

https://github.com/ossu/computer-science
https://github.com/P1xt/p1xt-guides/blob/master/README.md#tier-1---getting-started
https://github.com/Michael0x2a/curated-programming-resources/blob/master/resources.md
https://github.com/ForrestKnight/open-source-cs
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_kdHrT8izbROJNaxGflpcZm2ivsjRGF8j1hMzl3b8O0/htmlview?usp=sharing&sle=true#
https://teachyourselfcs.com/
https://www.freecodecamp.org/
https://www.reddit.com/r/learnprogramming/comments/amg7hf/which_curriculum_to_follow_to_learn_computer/
https://dev.to/oathkeeper/github-repos-for-learners-634
https://www.theodinproject.com/

>>16376215
damn anon... thanks for this post

f python. Everything eventually will come home to javascript. You want to go zero to hero in a month? or spend a year learning a bunch of bull you will never use in production. #vue team all day. #spa #pwa #cordova #electron #npm #node

anons posted too much options. I've gone down the same route and these are the only thing you need for now:

'Actual' CS (not worth doing if you just want to wage, lots of theory):
teachyourselfcs.com

Development (start here):
pay for this instructor's nodejs and reactjs courses it'll be worth it https://www.udemy.com/user/andrewmead/

don't worry about retards telling you javascript isnt a real language just focus on building things first

you should be able to start building your own things after the two udemy courses. From here you can start learning theory or C for fun and branch out

dont listen to people telling you javascript isnt a real language, focus on building first before exploring languages

Steer clear of these pajeets. They will say python this python that.

Wrong. You are a javascript chad. You make websites and phone apps from single code bases. You have at your disposal npm, the world's largest Software Registry. The registry that contains over 800,000 code packages.

F the college virgins that think you need a degree to be a programmer and f the python pajeets.

Now go out there and take the most versitile javascript framework out there (Vue),
and show the world what you are capable of doing

>>16376532
probably the most pragmatic approach. there is a lot of competition in javascript though since it is everywhere.

>>16373367
checked. this will last you ages.
fuck mac faggots.

>>16376451
What do you think of Colt Steele's bootcamp at Udemy?

I want to do freelance Web Development work on the side. I'm 50% through, about to finish the front-end stuff by learning jQuery.

>>16372662
learn what you want to become and form there learn the language you work requires if anything learn data structures and algorithms

>>16372817
sad this just got passed by with no comment when it's the best post here

>>16377196
And explain to us what a person with 0 programming knowledge is supposed to abstract from this

>>16377288
Start here

>>16372662
https://fullstackopen.com/en/

There, finish that and apply to full stack dev jobs on SO, indeed, glass door etc.

>>16372662
Don't bother if you're not at least 120 IQ. Although if you are, it's a great career patch.

>>16377387
>Start here
unironically the first language I learned was a lisp.
(+ 40 (+ 1 1))
clojure using the light table repl

It helped me learn js
const add = (a, b) => a + b
add(40, add(1, 1))

>>16377387
>>16377750
retarded meme

>>16378044
>retarded meme
this

literal time burner for NEETs along with Arch Linux

>>16377288
It means that you can start with any language.
Languages are just tools to accomplish certain tasks. One language can be for Android apps for instance, while another only works for iPhones.
What you learn in one language is generally transferable to a multitude of others. The underlying logic remains the same in 99% of cases.

>>16377387
>>16378146
I'm reading through that shit and it's pretty enjoyable, but somehow I managed to go the past 10 years without it. It's not required by any means. Especially since lots of math is involved, which you rarely use at all unless you're in a niche field like ML.

>>16376746
doing this and javascript course by Jonas Schmedtmann then planning on doing react, mongo and nodejs courses by maximilian schwarzmüller.

>>16372737
Depends on the places you're applying to. Google doesn't care but smaller companies want the "perfect fit".

>>16378044
>>16378146
"This is why “Lisp is the greatest!” - Alan Kay
https://www.quora.com/What-did-Alan-Kay-mean-by-Lisp-is-the-greatest-single-programming-language-ever-designed

>>16378181
Most programming languages and libraries get bloated with edge cases and spaghetti code.
Sure it works but the complexity becomes insane to manage overtime.
Everything is machine code in the end, but code is a medium to express our thoughts.
I find Lisp easier to think in.

The principles in Lisp are very powerful and are applied all over the place.
If you haven't seen Alan Kay's talks their as good as it gets for computer science.

At this point in the talk Alan covers an example of a refactor going from 1-2 million lines of code to around 400 lines.
https://youtu.be/YyIQKBzIuBY?t=3115

>>16378207
do you actually pay for these courses? or download them for free.

>>16378550
>or download them for free.
https://demonoid.unblocked.earth/files/details/207/050304275/
I usually download them for free

>>16372723
Plebs like Javascript and Python for the ease of learning.
Pros like Javascript and python for the ease of use.
Lazy fucks like C++ and Java for the huge library that you can copy and paste your codes away.
I don't care because I found the Algorithm that can turn any code into any other code you want.

>>16376175
>this thread reeks of pleb white guys scrapping for the last few diversity hire jobs so they can be the token white guy in a room full of H1Bs, no one with a triple digit IQ would ever take these cuck jobs seriously
Joke's on u dumbfuck, my wife is home with my 2 kids and we live pretty comfy on my "cuck diversity hire" job. Keep distracting yourself with the bullshit excuses you make for yourself to justify why you fail at life.

>>16377288
Play games
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tomorrowcorporation.humanresourcemachine&hl=en

>>16376446
I'm a JS coder primarily as well, but you can't overlook Python. It absolutely has its uses for automation....It is the modern day equivalent of what VB was a decade + ago, so it is used, whether you like it or not. I'm sure you've written a .py script in Linux.
Also, languages tend to fall out of favor for whatever reason, so best not to have all your eggs in one basket. Obviously, ignore the meme languages. I'm still shocked Ruby survived, but just about every other I guessed would be shitcanned has. So Fuck those.
I started in C++ forever ago. When it became obvious that JS was becoming a beast, I moved in that direction in conjuction with web apps, but never abandoned C++.

start with something like https://appinventor.mit.edu/ , it'll teach you the process/problem solving aspect faster than anything else. learn the syntax of whatever language/s you want to start with on the side.

>>16378870
This is honestly more important than what language. Language is just a tool. People focus on code, and not the underlying premise or platform. There is A LOT of information to cover to even take a stab in the dark at how you will approach a problem, and the more base knowledge you have of the workings of those systems, the better you will be at finding a solution.
Basic basic retard ex. your not going to be very sucessful programming a REST API if you don't even understand HTTP protocol and other application layer protocol.

Bla bla bla .... Language does not matter. ..

F the haters. F the no dooers.

If language is not important than you should get to it and learn javascript the most common. I'm not coming back here again anon. Just that I am taking the time to share this and steer this is mind boggoling.

Learn how to use javascript in a modern javascript framework such as #Vue.

Learn how to use npm the largest software registry.

Then start figuring out what you want to learn. You can literally go from there to anywhere.

>>16378550
paid

>>16378550
I pay for all my Udemy courses. They go on sale regularly for $10-20 (never buy a course that's not on sale) which really isn't a big deal to me.

Yes yes goyim, learn Pyshit! Learn Tradescript! Don't worry about the fucking power of .NET Core, you don't need that. More spa monkeys please!

>>16379484
thing is you can search around and usually find the same course someone online leaked in a torrent.
no reason to buy it.
im looking for a good progression to learn IT
possibly cloud and also security, anyone got some good courses, curriculum, or ideas? currently taking the coursera google it, but its so basic i know everything lol

>>16379538
Redpill me, anon. I have an estimated IQ of 150. How can I profit from this

>>16379935
If you really had an IQ of 150 you wouldn't have to ask how to profit from something lmao

an ai trading bot duh

this kills the nodeshitter

>>16380405
kek node.js is faster than .net, node.js is pretty much the fastest high level language because of the hundreds of millions google spends on optimizing the JIT compiler.

node.js and JS are going to continue to grow and dominate the space for as long as Google and Facebook rely on javascript for their income. The only threat on the horizon is wasm, which is at least a decade away from being real competition.

>>16372662
Take a look at Code Academy. Learn how to securely program. Get certificates for various subjects relating to security or generic languages.

>>16374456
Nice. I might give them a shot as well.

>>16372662
>Do a "bootcamp" so you have qualification to show employers
>Works through the comp sci section of the /sci/ wiki and do the required math pre-reqs so you actually know what you are doing
>Personal projects, competitions, hackathons, freelance
>Apply to jobs like crazy and don't forget to network
It's that simple.

Yes, do all 4 of these at the same time.

noob here, whats something coding related that i should learn that would be useful in 5 yrs time? Or would be in high demand

>>16380900
Start with C, then Rust or Elm.
Real software developers will respect you.
Don't be like the 1 billion guys that can code a website with javascript and stackoverflow.
You need to understand what makes a software fast, easily scalable and reliable.

>>16372855
>need cs degree
what about math w/ cs minor?

>>16374263
thanks for the reply, will check out the video you linked about option spreads. I've started with covered calls and selling puts on some stocks I like e.g. AT&T