/biz/ - Business & Finance

First for BIOMEME SHILLS GET OUT

>>16312387
Ohhhh the ole "*" to dodge obligations.
>>16312418
Right the ole "informational purposes only, this is not a solicitation to buy or sell or offer to buy or sell any security or instrument or participate in any particular strategy".
Exactly. In other words you can assume all analyst articles concludes with the phrase "Just sayin'. I dunno tho".

Third for chase the biomemes

So what's the chances that the Hong Kong resolution passed by the House today derails the trade deal entirely?

>>16312447
I am SICK and TIRED of this China bullshit and want it to be over.

>tfw 100 AMD shares
this better fucking go up

>>16312452
Me too! I am tired of the BS pumps on fake headlines

>>16312446
SNSS MTNB AGRX strong

>japan is a nation on the rise
What did Soros mean by this?
He also said this in 87 before they proceeded to waste a decade on fuck all

>>16312446
I'm bet the REFR shill works for on of those firms
https://fintel.io/sos/us/refr

>>16312431
WHAT KIND OF FACE IS THAT? SHOW ME YOUR HODL FACE /SMG/

>>16312479

>>16312452
we'll be hearing about China a lot for the rest of this century.
if you're annoyed by it already, just wait; the next decade is going to be a deafening roar.

China is all over the place. China wants to be everywhere, to control everything. China China China...
It makes me sympathize with all the countries that just wish the US would relax and be calm and not interventionist. Basically globalism was a mistake and we need to abolish the press and the internet. Agrarianism is the way to go.

>>16312479
we're all gonna make it

>>16312491
China will the dominant global power of the 21st century, only delusional mutts refuse to accept this

>>16312502
How did I miss this? Anyway, press F for Intelsat(I) it's kill.

>>16312479

>>16312474

Tfw should have bought ROK a couple years ago when I first heard about it.

Hypothetical situation.
>pic related happens tomorrow
>how much did you lose?

>>16312491
>>16312514
>china numbah juan

>>16312514

Hard to do when your entire economic model is built around copying whoever is #1

>>16312533
Like $92

>>16312514
too early to call

>>16312533
no problem, I sold at like $23 last week

>>16312474
he was right that they're better workers, but obviously the performance of their stock market didn't do as well...

>>16312491
>>16312514
China's economy is literally crumbling right now. Once the banks start to fold and their citizens start to riot it will be over for China.

>>16312533
Couple hundred on my options.

Which at close I was either still up on or even. Glad I got these last month.

>>16312534
I'm not sure what point you're making. China's domestic infrastructure is great, they sell shitty steel and stuff to the US because they know they can get away with it.

>>16312536
China doesn't have to care about IP because they've positioned themselves such that the West really trying to crack down on them would fuck their own economies. It was brilliant on their part and retarded on the part of westerners seeking cheap manufacturing. Chinese research is also starting to produce very real advances and leaving the West behind.

>>16312558
>this year it will be true for sure!

>>16312558
Plebs and noobs are worried that China will take over the world's economy.

Real men meanwhile are worried about the impending collapse of the Chinese economy.

>>16312542
I don't use any formal recognized strategies and the kind of calculus I perform cannot be shared over the internet with the limitations of modern technology
but yeah I like holding some genetics positions

>>16312558
I didn't say that they weren't
I said that we'll be seeing a huge amount of news from China one way or another. I think the next couple decades they will be generating a lot of headlines, whether they can hold it together or if they collapse.

>>16312581
that is Chinese infrastructure.

>>16312533
0 because I don't own any AMRN.

>MTNB
The same day Baker Bros was buying it, Jane Street, D.E. Shaw, Morgan Stanley, and a few other liquidated their position.

Baker Bros also owns ~1,000,000 shares of LPTX, I'm not sure they're any sort of endorsement, and I'm waking up to the painful realization that I bought into idiotic hype again. Fuck I bought the top, AMRN better get FDA recommendation and a big pharma buyout.

>>16312378
>Jeez if they're do confident why not go all in xD
Some of them seem to. A lot of the communities are so retarded I'm not sure how much reverse-trolling and other games are happening.

This guy who calls himself "Republican's Rock" posts on the yahoo finance boards about MRK and how terrible the CEO is. If I had an account I would have been trolled into asking him which rock he was referring to. Probably just doesn't know the rules of English grammar...

>>16312479

>>16312581
>Chinese research
lol any decent chinese scientist learned everything in the West because their univeristies are shit

>>16312066
>Made some money buy/selling it in the spring just based on the chart.
nice. Any detail of strategy used?
>>16312066
I would like to make good money off this sector cause it's the next speculation boom
So I need to target the right ones.
Here they are shilled ARMRN and LCI
I wanna get why

>>16312479

>>16312581
Didnt China have a problem with exploding toliets a couple years ago?

>>16312491
>if you're annoyed by it already, just wait; the next decade is going to be a deafening roar.
Very true.

We will be talking about China and trade for decades, and hating it.
Just like how the Brits will be talking about Brexit for decades, and seething.

>>16312654
How does a hole in the ground explode

>>16312687
Yeah that's kind of what I was trying to get at.

No one knows if they're going to implode or take over the world, but they are definitely going to be important.
Even on 4chan, we can look forward to the same non-stop "china sucks" or "china number one" threads for ever and ever. Most of us are already a bit tired of it, but it's only going to get worse, so we might as well be prepared for it...

>>16312708
Have you never seen miners use explosives?

>>16312717
One way to stimulate the economy is to increase the ranks and wages of the 50 cent army...

>>16312479
Are we still buying milk faggots?

>>16312733
I always said that we should stimulate the economy with spaceships and lasers and genetically engineered catgirls with big tits wearing maid uniforms.
But I'm not in charge ... :-/

>>16312741
about to go pick up a gallon of dairy pure after I eat a salad :)

what stonk or option will 20x so I can buy lambo??

>>16312581
>China's domestic infrastructure is great
it's shit, literally made in china. several people died in elevator and escalator malfunctions because the chinese work like shit and try to cut costs everywhere.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7U6Xd-awFoM

Thoughts on CRSP? In collaboration with VRTX, they had positive data on the CTX001 for phase 1/2 clinical trials. Two patients were successfully treated by curing the genetic diseases such as the sickle cell disease.

Fuck me running.

God dam. It fellas why didn’t I buy more Nintendies when I had the chance!?

Why shouldn't I just stick all of my dollars in semiconductor mutual funds or ETFs and call it a day?

If things work out I’m going to make it back to before I lost it all. Honestly if i never lost it all I would of never made it though. It was a time ticking bomb. Everything I thought I knew and learned everyday was nothing compared to what I learned working my way up from very little. Also semi learned the difference between gambling, trading and investing now. I been trading after my gambling fiasco but once I make enough I’m going to straight invest

>>16312772
BRK.A

>Carl Icahn Losing Tens Of Millions As "Big Short 2" Trade Turns Sour

I bought 200 shares of Ford because of the new Mustang Mach-E. This vehicles is going to be a winner...right guys?

>>16312717
Are the quints, particually yotsuba, the mascots for /smg/?

>>16312772
It's always some bullshit you'd never expect

how can I invest in SpaceX and not Tesla?

>>16312939
Lmaoooooo

>>16312939
it's like they made a list of every possible thing they could do wrong and then proceeded to check every box

>>16312942
Nope, we just have a couple posters who fetishize attention seeking whores.

>>16312951
alphabet (GOOGL or GOOG) has some ownership of spaceX
the best way to get spaceX shares is by working there or through private equity firms

also:
https://www.google.com/search?q=how+can+I+invest+in+SpaceX

>>16312939
Yes anon, all e-cars have been massive profit hogs for automakers. Im sure auto enthusiasts will flock to a cuckstang powered by a million AAs. All's well.

>>16312930
GUH

>>16312951
No can do. No public trading on that one. You could invest in Richard Branson's Virgin Galactic ticker:SPCE if you like. It's pretty bearish for now.

>>16313001
there's also LUNA which is space stuff related

>>16313001
>that chart

This is all just smoke. When Dec 27th gets here watch as the stock moves higher due to everyone wanting to jump onboard. Then watch it jump really high after the 28th cause then AMRN will be legal baby and there won't be any stopping it then. Starting Dec 29th watch as the Profit flows in cause people will be storming Doctors offices all wanting the Drug. Why do you think they've been airing all those ads about the Drug all over the place recently? To drive up the awareness and demand. Then in January, the Holy Buyout. For 60 a pop.

>>16312985
>>16313001
>>16313023
Can I invest in image related?

You need strong hands to HODL the bags

>>16312989
I thought improvements in battery tech is changing that?
And aren't they just trying to capture some the fags that would buy Teslas anyhow?

>>16312951
Anyone else excited for Starlink? It will revolutionize rural living. No longer will I be cucked by the DSL jew.

>>16313056
From Neuromancer?
I should read more Gibson

>>16312533
everything

>>16313056
10/10 would invest in the future, and bitchin space mansions.

>>16313083
>>16313104
based bros
https://youtu.be/nRREWfRqprY

>>16312757
>But I'm not in charge ... :-/
You have my vote.

>>16312182
This is a reply to the anon in the past thread.
No I hear ya anon. Look into buying Twilio, Square, CMG, and a bunch of bluechips. You'll make it anon.

>>16312757
Apparently the economy is my penis

>>16312502
Did you see KRTX run? Man the stuff of dreams in a bio lotto.

>>16312519
It was up 100% on the open, did it not pop up on your scans at all?

>>16312989
This could be the future. Just wait until Chevrolet unveils an all-electric Corvette the size of a Toyota 4Runner.

>>16313034
Yes i doubt it will hold a trend any which way until there's some positive or negative material news or earnings. For now it's just a dream Richard Branson is trying to build with outcome uncertain. Also a recent IPO so due dilly must include figuring out if there's a share lockup and if so when those shares are allowed to be sold.

>>16313211
yeah, it did AFTER it popped. Too late now.

>>16312066
>Made some money buy/selling it in the spring just based on the chart.
nice. Any detail of strategy used?
>>16312066
I would like to make good money off this sector cause it's the next speculation boom
So I need to target the right ones.
Here they are shilled ARMRN and LCI
I wanna get why

>>16313023
Luna is an optics company, they have one deal with NASA.

t. I live in Roanoke where they're based so they're local news.

Is there an Australian alternative to the app robinhood?? If not what broker should I go with?

>>16313282
Why didnt se get nuclear powered cars instead?
This is the worst timeline.

>>16313336
It came down but grinded up into the close and was still up alot on the day.
Dont you think the move still has some legs?

Big dicks buying AMRN Nov 22 $30 calls tomorrow.

>>16312951
Bruh you can always invest in the UFO etf or place your money on the superior space play MAXR.

>>16312930
Why even do that when you're so rich? If I had that money Id be retired and NOT playing the stock market. Max 1% in stock market of whatever money I keep after splitting it with immediate family. Dollar cost average the 1% over the course of 5 years.

Buy the dip on T or is it dropping lower?

>>16313368
I’m an AMRN shill thru and thru and even I’ll say this is just lighting money on fire

>>16313368
Why do you type in the same manner that typical stock twit shills do? Getting scared holding a single AMRN call cause of these shills that seem like theyre from stock twits the place where they blindly nelieve that the very stock they purcahed will be $1,000,000 eoy.

>>16313387
Money isnt everything.
For instance why does Soros mess with geopolitics and fund discivilitational organizations?

Gonna put $400 on AMD at first sign of dip tomorrow then ride it all day and sell it right before market close

>>16313368

You'd have to be a fucking idiot to do that. I own a lot of AMRN. I bought in at 14 so my gains are already there. I could pull out now and walk away with something. The ones who waited for the pump are the ones sitting her panicking. I shilled at 14 and I'm semi shilling now based on the idea of a buyout and formal FDA approval.

>>16313406
Well I know that 1,000 is a bit much. But 60 per? Much more reasonable and more likely when the Holy Buyout comes. Hell I'd be happy with 60. I'd clear 52,320.00

>>16313397
Its not dipping lower. In fact it's going up. One of the reasons I like T. The recovery is swift. Which makes buying on any dips that much sweeter. Another is the Fat Divvy. I sold mine before this Dip. If I had spare green I'd have been all over it.

>>16313342
>>16312631
I don't use any formal recognized strategies and the kind of calculus I perform cannot be shared over the internet with the limitations of modern technology
but yeah I like holding some genetics positions

>>16313547
>but yeah I like holding some genetics positions
which stocks?

>>16313476
I laugh at this shit. I bought the bulk of my AMRN at 16.77. I witnessed the run to 23. I saw the fall to 12 after the FDA announced the Adcom this year. People thought it was over and done for. I stayed in. Now? AMRN passed 16:0 and is on the brink of raking in Profit by the tons. They're playing these games trying to fool the little guys into selling the shares so the fat cat investor groups can bag them. Those dudes ain't selling. I wonder why.. Could be the fact that there's more Profit laying ahead.

>>16313476
I wasnt talking about you anon, you seem to be the shill who was here before the pump but shilling it. I bought cause you probably have some level of knowledge regarding the stock compared to those who popped up AFTER the pump. Its the ones who literally sound like their from stock twits that make me worried (cause they act as if every stock they own will 100% moon)

>>16313569
>absolutely cope

>>16313579
Heh its all good.

>>16313368
>Big dicks buying AMRN Nov 22 $30 calls tomorrow.
what is the long term price do you expect off ARMNR?
Why to buy options and not simply hold?

>>16313558
just like I said in the last thread >>16312066
I'm a simple person, I'm not a genetics expert, so I just buy the ETFs and then some more SGMO stock on the side

>>16312586
I hope China collapses due to political and ethnic separatism and all you faggots' Chinese stocks fall to 0.

>>16313685
>implying I'd EVER put money into that shithole or anything that associates with that shithole

Heh, Cramer dude kinda said he hopes
NVS buys AMRN. Also Gilead just added AMRN's drug to one of it's own drug trials involving NASH.

>>16313581
>long term capital gains is cope

any thoughts on some late dec SPY 320 calls? seems like there's no chance Trump let's market fall

>>16313753
>thoughts
you might get crabbed
75% chance of crab

also

>futures

>>16313733
HOLY SHIT HE DID... not, he just said he preferred novartis. Thanks for baiting me though.

He bought NVS but I decided to stick with MRK. Wish I’d added ABBV when he did. I know I told people here when his club finally pulled the trigger, and one of you jumped on it. Good move too, you got capital appreciation on a nice divvy payer.

>>16313753
if you dont buy, it'll moon
if you buy, it'll crab
You can choose only one.

>>16313406
We’ve been infested by more Leons again. It fucking sucks, I’ve gotten some great recommendations here, but occasionally we get a bunch of bullshit invaders from ST and pol.

By the way you have some great takes, Ive seen a lot of your picks end up well do you have a Twitter I can follow you at? Maybe a patreon I could donate to?
:^)

>>16313801
Dem debate tomorrow night, right?
Could be a good time to take profits, maybe buy some put protection, or pick up some bullpicks on the dip.

Weed stocks have unironically ruined me. My pitiful gains in two years of stocks amounted to $2000.

Now I am down $200. What the fuck. I lost my gains and am now negative.

>>16312939
>car stocks

Lololololololol

Enough of the AMRN hopium. We need more shit like KTRX. Holy fuck..

>>16312479

>>16312431
Does RSI and MACD even work?

>>16313951
Not particularly. MACD is really laggy and the market rarely abides by what RSI thinks is overbought or oversold. I want to say just using something as brain dead simple as heikin ashi candles, buy on green candle sell on red candle, would outperform a MACD/RSI strategy. Not 100% sure but thinking about how those work just now I do suspect that to be the case.

>>16313706
>he doesn’t own Nintendies for the impending gamification of the proletariat Ching Chong masses

>>16313976
I do that but I keep buying at the wrong time. SPY has been going up consistently over the past month but I bought puts last week based on heikin ashi and lost 4k.

>>16313993
>I bought (options) last week based on heikin ashi and lost 4k.
Eeeek! No no no. Don't do that. I was talking about common shares. Heikin ashi is not a good system by itself even for shares unless you shit check it with other stuff to confirm.

>>16314009
>>16314009
There's some anon here who claims all indicators are too far behind. So wtf do you even go by then?

>>16313358
>Is there an Australian alternative to the app robinhood??
Not at the moment

>If not what broker should I go with?
If you can wait for an indeterminate time, you could join Robinhood: https://robinhood.com/au/
Or https://www.finder.com.au/saxo-capital-markets for $6.99/trade

>>16314019
I use a few indicators in tandem, some for entry another set for exits. A crappy indicator can become decent if you play with the settings and pair it with a couple others, get them all to agree on things etc. Plow through all the indicators built in to tradingview or MT4 or whatever you use and backtest. Backtesting is looking at the indicators and comparing what they show vs. what happened around those times. It's a lot of work but worth it if you want to trade this way.

>>16314044
to be fair on most days I just go by the level 2 (even though that shit is gamed to hell by market makers) and do alright. I've tried various indicators and strategies and those all seem to be not that good. Because you don't really have an edge for things like /ES or SPY. Just trade based on pattern recognition.

>>16313453
Be careful, AMD has that retard strength

>>>16313368
>>Big dicks buying AMRN Nov 22 $30 calls tomorrow.
>what is the long term price do you expect off ARMNR?
>Why to buy options and not simply hold?

Are the investopedia courses worth $200? Or is there a torrent I can't find out there somewhere?

They’re fucking EEEVERYWHEEEERRRE

I think we missed the bull on roche...

>no edition

>>16314260
Is BGS going to be okay, or is there only room for Campbell’s and green beans in the world of canned food?

>>16314278
I think they will cut the dividend

>>16314323
Oh no...

>>16314323
But BGS is one of your main holds no? They've already done so poorly
;_;

>>16314494
Yeah but thats what the large specs think
I say buy a stake just in case because its a duopoly like CAG but dont go in with big money until they cut

>>16313871

Weed stocks will ruin you just like smoking weed will.

>>16312939

You likely fucked way up but still least you’ll get a dividend. There’s much worse things you could be holding that’s for sure. Take pot stocks for instance.

Uhhhh so this seems like the type of thing we should’ve been talking about.

Why have we not talked about this?
What’s the buzz?

Guys its me Jeff Bezos I'm buying all of Amarin tomorrow just wanted to let you know so you could go all in you're gonna make it bros good luck

>>16314703
Ssshh Anon know ones supposed to know, trying to keep my Altria shares low so I can accumulate fat dividend

>>16314715
Big gay

>>16314724
Seems like news that really would keep Altria shares low. Wonder if it’s related to their hot today, since the other news was pretty obviously coming.

>>16314212
Lol what? Is this fake news?? Where the fuck did u see that?

I was up $2k on my calls last Friday (when we hit all time high) now down to just $1,500 profit so I’m trying to decide whether I need to take some profit and re-up my position at lower amount or not. If this shit is real holy fuck...

>>16314746
O that does make more sense anon, the news would send it down investing more into cannabis might send some shareholders packing.

The market isn’t very kind to cannabis right now, which is honestly a good thing everything was way overvalued and still are now

>>16314758
Yes. This is very fake news. I don’t even think he’s trying to be serious. It’s just a post on yahoo finance.

Are you fucking with me?

>>16314769
Much of the excitement about cannabis was related to the idea that the US would follow Canada and legalize soon after they did. There’s no reason to think that’s likely at the moment, and I’m sure some industry lobbyists would convince trump that it would cost jobs. If Altria increased their stake in cronos recently, they almost certainly lost money doing it.

However, i think I should probably sell the rest of my CGC and wait for cronos to sink again and deploy it there. Actually this might be another good entry point to short weed.

VIX gapped up

>>16312939
I noticed the late model shitboxes are starting to put the name on the side doors instead of the back; after thinking about it I realized they're doing it because all of these fucking crossovers look exactly the same in profile.

>>16314853
0.39%... is that even a gap up? I’m still fairly confident my vxx call will expire worthless, as I hoped.

>November 2019
>Brexit still not sorted
>no observable progress been made in ~3 years

>>16312463
>>16313453
>>16314122
anons, the other day a literal homeless man told me to buy amd. This guy lives in a mission and "collects cans" for a living. He has robinhood on his phone and likes to talk all about it.

>>16314992
The entrepreneurial spirit, alive and well in the USA!

Holy hell nvidia is killing it. And they make all those Nintendo Switch chips. And all that machine learning stuff usually uses nvidia. Damn... nvidia is such a Chad why do we have such an amd cult here?

>>16314974
>November 2029
>Brexit still not sorted
>25th referendum in favor of brexit, but experts concerned over election meddling
>british news media is just the word "brexit" repeated over and over again

Who remembers this little nugget? /DRUS'd/

>>16315016
I got fucked hard by Nvidia last year. Only recovered all lose and then some thanks to AMD.

Mommy Su > Leatherjacketman

>>16315029
Long live the queen!

Should I invest my last $500 on AMD or have I missed that train?

>>16314703
I saw it. Questionable whether this will have a lasting bullish impact on CRON or the sector. We'll see. For now, the majority of weed stocks are deep in bearish territory despite the day's bounce. And then there's fucking TRUL which keeps whipsawing in and out of a marginal buy zone. I have tried once since the most recent bottom and got stopped at break even, skipped the earnings (it beat), and now it's back in marginal buy again.

>>16314974
What a disaster. Have vote assuming it will fail, it passes. Cue years of politician whinging because most of them really don't wanna do it.

>>16312930
More like Icahn't ,amirite? rite?

>>16315146
If the trend is indeed my friend, I should sell this bounce and go short. I’m almost surprised there isn’t an inverse cannabis etf.

>>16314992
Dude I told you about AMD in secret, I didn't want you to run and tell everyone in the internet
And making fun of my living situation... Damn. Who do you think you are? I'll never invite you on my yacht when FunFair (FUN) hits $100/coin. You little shit

>>16314685
Dr Phil said smoking weed is like dumping water in your computer and short circuits everything

>>16315037
Titanic 2

>>16312533
A few hundo on options.

Owning stock on any of these pharma FDA bets is a roll of the dice. I quit accepting bag holding as a valid strategy years ago. I only own blue chips and proven companies. Speculative bets, options only. I like to limit my risk, and make stupid amounts of money when I'm right.

Uhhhh what the fuck?
The internet is just cheering on this guy’s embezzlement, and msm Fox News is publicizing this? As a shareholder I have a right to sue.

>>16315207
>nuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
Oh no no no no no! Someone else got FUN’d!

>>16315236
Yeah well Dr. Phil is a doofus who probably secretly pops pills.

>>16315297
>Slandering Dr Phil
>Here, on /smg/
How dare you? Have you even ever met Dr. Phil?
You little shit

>>16315310
DOOFUS FAKE PSYCHIATRIST WHICH IS FAKE DOCTOR TO BEGIN WITH

>>16315297
So does most of smg.
All of smg?

Do you remember my position on Apple from yesterday? Imagine if we reverse from here (which we might actually do because there's no trade deal in sign and a correction is in line). This is the kind of trade you can brag about when applying for a job

>>16315859
puts?

>>16315882
Short position from the top to the dot

>>16312757

I have 100k, how many ES futures contracts should I buy?

wtf is going on with ROKU?

will AMRN continue to get JUSTed today?

>>16316201
That would make three days down in a tow. I anticipated a drop in price but I would be concerned if it dropped another >=5% today.
But you just can’t tell what day a buyout offer will come. It may come this week or it may come after Dec 28th.

>>16312536
China's economic model is number one; the US should be copying China.

mr LCI shill, can you give me a quick rundown on this company?

Target up 10%

Why is /smg/ so dead? Did most people enter a period of depression or did they simply kill themselves?

>>16316819
It's mostly amerisharts posting here and they're still sleeping. It really became a bit slow since summer though.

Even with these analysts trying to save Oppenheimer from their idiotic shorting of AMRN nothing technical has changed and I'm not fucking selling until it gets bought out

>>16316888
Checked.

>>16316888
Trips of truth.

>>16316888
Anon... They are literally selling a fish oil pill...

I sold all my AMD around $36.50 like a retard thinking it was gonna drop. Now i don't think it's gonna drop below that point again

Lol, Kikenheimer with their nigger tier $7 price target on AMRN.

Go broke faggots.

>>16316975
Chemically altered* fish oil.

>>16316989
It will. It can't go up forever. You're gonna FOMO in and get a dump. Looks like crypto trajectory atm. Patience bruh

>>16317019
>Chemically altered
How?

>AMRN is already down another 4.97%
Is this true? That would mean that I've broken even with Amarin. Maybe I should just make moves to make money instead of being a filthy boomer with a highly volatile stock.

Fun fact: PFE forked out $48 a pop for ARRY which was a 62% hike from the ARRY stock price. If they forked out that much for ARRY which did not have anything out on the market, how much you think they'll fork out for AMRN?

>>16317055
It's with EPA. Every other fish oil pill is using HPA, which raises LDL cholesterol.
I think AMRN will be a great stock, but right now there's just so much falling that I would rather sit on a pile of money and wait for things to get better.

>>16317095
Yeah, but the buy out would likely happen after December 28th, correct? Or is there a good chance that it could come any time in between now and then?

>>16316843
Summer is the slowest time of the year for markets. Sould be ramping up these last two months if mostly for tax loss selling.

>>16316819
/biz/ isnt a very good board.

>>16312431
This wallpaper doesn't get any less cool no matter how many times I see it. What gives?

>>16317123
It'll come after but I'd guess talks are already underway. After ARMN is green lit, expect the formal deal announcement not long after. All this shit with the stock now, who cares? It'll ramp back up as Dec 28th gets closer. Then after Dec 28th there's no stopping it.

>>16316989
Buy back when it breaks that 2000s high.

>>16317149
You're right. I have to think long term here. No matter the loses now, I can still be looking at nearly doubling my money if there was a buyout.

>>16317109
It's with epa or even more accurate eepa and only epa while other fishoil is epa and dha(not hpa like you said).
Let's see what wiki has to say about eepa
>After ingestion, E-EPA is metabolized to EPA. EPA is absorbed in the small intestine and enters circulation
eepa =>epa. Not that the metabolization itself can't have benefits but I don't see a reason why eepa is better than epa.
>Because EPA is also a precursor to docosahexaenoic acid (DHA)...
There goes your dha.
>EPA and DHA ethyl esters (all forms) may be absorbed less well, thus work less well, when taken on an empty stomach or with a low-fat meal.
>It appears that both eicosapentaenoic acid (EPA) and docosahexaenoic acid (DHA) lower triglycerides, however, DHA alone appears to raise low-density lipoprotein
>It is important to note that while in the popular press LDL may be called "bad cholesterol", much recent research has shown that is it not necessarily bad.
>The ingredients of dietary supplements are not as carefully controlled as prescription products and have not been fixed and tested in clinical trials, as prescription drugs have,[9] and the prescription forms are more concentrated, requiring fewer capsules to be taken and increasing the likelihood of compliance.[8]
This is the only argument they're making. They aren't wrong on the shitty quality of supps in us country. Fuck the trial and fewer capsules are not worth 5 billion.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethyl_eicosapentaenoic_acid
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low-density_lipoprotein
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eicosapentaenoic_acid

>>16317226
So are you saying it's a sell?

>>16317290
It was never a buy. I don't get what people see in this and especially now I'd get the fuck out of this.

AMRN noooo what the fuck man

>>16317300
HURR DURR THING STRONGER THAN STATINS WITH NO SIDE EFFECTS BAD. SELL SELL SELL.

No thanks, I am not retarded.

>>16317310
Oppenheimer wanted cheap shares to cover what they shorted. Nothing has changed.

>Deutsche Bank To Replace 18,000 Workers With Robots

Nothing to see here guys, I'm sure everything is just fine with DB...

>>16317317
What do amrn's patents even cover?
Can no one else sell epa only fishoil now?
What's their margin?
If you don't know the answers to those question you're obviously just gambling on things you don't understand.
>[xxxx] wanted cheap shares
Where have I heard this argument before?
Oh, right. Under every single failed stock on stocktwits. They buy something => it goes down => they double down on it => goes down again => the excuses start coming :: "it's this one analyst's fault. He caused the stock to go down 20% in one day" :: "fucking shorts keeping this down. 1000$ eoy":: "[xxx] just wants cheap shares" :: "mms at it again". If you check a year later you see the same people posting all day long and are trying to find """explanations""" on why their once 20$ stock is now worth .2$

>>16317371
You mean they do the same as everyone else?

>>16317401
What part of "Chemically altered" are you not getting? Their patent covers Vascepa, which is a series of chemical compounds in a solution in a gelcap that contains EHA fish oil and several other compounds. Everyone harps on the fucking fish oil but none of you motherfuckers FUCKING READ.

>>16317422
>What part of "Chemically altered" are you not getting?
Everything. Pls explain.
>Vascepa
Sure, but what is it?
>which is a series of chemical compounds in a solution
So is my ass sweat.
>that contains EHA fish oil
>EHA
So does every other fishoil.

>>16316888
The highest rated analyst puts AMRN at 51 by the end of Dec

Well that holiday tree spread on VXX is going to make me a few extra shekels.

>>16317401
To be fair, Amarin does have a patent on using EPA concentrated fish oil. And they'll have that patent until 2030 from what I've read if they are approved on the 28th.
But I understand your point about how well it does compared to other fish oil pills already on the market. I noticed that they did studies comparing their results to the results of other fish oil pills, and what made them different is what you mentioned before, where the EPA concentrated fish oil didn't raise LDL significantly.

Whether LDL has negative or positive effects, people who are at risk of CV disease, stroke, heart attack, are recommend to get their LDL as low as possible, as well as fat in the arteries of the heart (triglycerides).
Amarin's Vascepa has shown that it significantly slows down the plaque build up (one described it as halting it), doesn't raise LDL, and lower triglicerides. Not to mention that it was shown to reduce CV related deaths, CV disease, and more.

The results are something to look at. And for people who are at risk with CV disease, heart attack, or stroke, this would be a great prescription to be on. I think for these reasons alone that the FDA will expand the label to expand into a more preventative label. I've been seeing their commercials like crazy too on the Hallmark channel, they're trying to get their boomer market hooked on it.
So I wouldn't say this is a company that's trying to fail. They also just expanded their sales team by around 800 people. That's massive. It's not a 1 to 1 ratio of sales, each sales person significantly adds sales to the product. This all has me thinking that Amarin is really trying to make their case to launch a successful product.

The only real problem is that Amarin is limited in their production capabilities. So being bought would be the best way for the drug to reach a larger market share of their potential costumers quicker. Otherwise it would take some more time for them to reach the market share that they could.

Lci down wkhs down snss down amrn down plug down fcel down df dead. Shill me some more biz bros let’s fuck my shit up to the max

>>16317471
I really need to explain to you that it's not just EHA? That it's processed to purify it and then suspended in compounds engineered to cause less enzyomatic stress breaking it down, allowing your body to take it in at a far greater volume? They've explained it before. Obviously it's not just fish oil, that would be retarded. Since the company is already massively profitable, and since the drug has already shown far greater efficacy than just "muh fish oil", you should have sufficient brainpower to work out that it isn't just fish oil. Are you being willfully ignorant? Are you shorting the stock?

>>16317525
explain

>>16317501
This guy:
https://www.tipranks.com/analysts/andrew-fein

All the people low balling were like sub #2500 ranked

Beep, beep. We're on the way.

>>16317581
I bought 4 calls with strikes of $16 $17 $17.50 and $18 so because of the volatility I'm going to get some gains.

>>16317093
Yep, my gains are dwindling now. Waste of good buying power. ISRG and OKTA calls have been rocking it for me. Should have doubled up instead of wasting money on AMRN.

>>16317371
DB is like a cockroach, it refuses to die. I even made some $ with calls on them around their last ER.

>>16312431
I just bought some crypto currencies, when will I finally be rich?

>>16317546
Lci showing almost $10 for me

>>16317639
if it's shitcoins, never. if bitcoin, end of 2021-2022

>>16317639
if it's any coin in the top 10, never. if it's a coin with a sub 10M marketcap, end of 2021-2022

>>16317639
Buy vidt close to 5c and sell after it goes to 10c+

>>16314992
As long as it's not the shoe shine boy.

>>16317552
>massively profitable

>>16317669
Patrician choice.

>>16317546
Do you intentionally buy shitty stocks?

How about you play it safe and buy INTC ABBV MSFT V SQ ISRG FB PLTM MO KHC NVDA NRE MMM COST CMG ya goob

If you want to get frisky, ROKU TWTR SHOP TTD

But you're buying absolute shit. I can't believe people are still falling for SNSS FCEL and PLUG all these years later, but it's a new wave of idiots every few years. Those stocks have been literal cuck magnets for a decade. No money to be made, only sheep to be sheered. Considered DRYS? LOLLL

>>16317685
>INTC ABBV MSFT V SQ ISRG FB PLTM MO KHC NVDA NRE MMM COST CMG ya goob

Can new people afford those? We're at ATH across the board man. Can you really blame people for trying to get in on the ground floor of something?

>>16317657

Hmm not here I dunno

>>16317678
Sorry, I meant massively revenue generating.

>>16317707
On stocktwits app it shows 9.94

>>16317546
Just buy Square, Twilio, CMG, DIS, OKTA, NVIDIA, and some other blue chips stuff anon.
Also, if you want to safely play off of Amarin's potential buyout, buy some PFE

Morning /smg/

>there are people ITT that didn't buy TGT

>>16317730
May have been a last trade. Spread is 8.80 to 9.59 rn and tightens at open.

>>16312479
That's my HODL face

>>16317796

There was a 150 share pre market trade that went off at 9.94.

Nothing to see here.

>there are people ITT that didn't buy REFR

>AMRN down 5% premarket

It's going to be a long slog to 12/28 isn't it?

>>16317829
What retard would make that trade while its been under 9?

>>16317845
>there are people ITT who bough refr at 3.47 and held for weeks just to sell at 3.60 and now it's back to 3.13
Fuck off

>>16317883
Someone trying to pump the stock. How did that even go through? Surely there were lower asks?

>>16317542
>EPA concentrated fish oil
Seems very vague and also very general. Not sure if this would hold in court.

>Whether LDL has negative or positive effects,
Yeah, sure. I'm not arguing against the benefits of omega 3. I'm just doubting that amrn is worth the current valuation. In my eyes they don't have anything special.

>>16317695
Can new people afford to lose their money on bullshit scams that have been known cyclical pump and dumps for years? Zoom out. Look at how ugly and fucked up the charts are for shit like PLUG FCEL and SNSS. Same goes for the dumb gold miners and shit mom and pop oil companies people shill. I recognize these names from 5, 8, 12 years ago. Yet there's always a new round of idiots to ready to give away their dollars.

If you can afford 50 shares of FCEL you can afford 1 share of INTC--and INTC is actually going to make you money, pay a dividend, and not go down 85%

Cheap share price =/= affordable

reason for lci pump?

>>16317885

REFR is not to daytrade son

REFR is to hold long. Listen to the conference call from last week.

-0.01 cents loss per share, when it was -0.03 cents previous quarter

Don't miss a great long opportunity

PS

I long'd AMRN from 2014 to 2018 Q3 and got out at 12

Getting nervous market will tank cause
>people will realize economy isn't doint great due to retail companies clearly making less
>big investors shorting apple (when i finally decide to do a credit spread on it rather than just buying a put)
>credit spread on spy with all this stuff happening


Hows a credit spread work if price is between sell and buy put BUT you dont have enough money to buy shares in said stock?

Seeing all these biomemes 2x-8xing, is it viable to punt on a few upcoming Phase 1/2 announcements and FDA-related meetings? A cursory look shows AQST has a PDUFA meeting on the 30th, AVDL 15th Dec. Evofem is supposed to release Phase 2 data this month.

>>16317882
you have a GUARANTEED $90/share buyout and you can't wait a whole month?

>>16317883
the power of robinhood market buyers

>>16317916
Thank you for someone finally posting these stonks before they moon

>>16317917
>GUARANTEED $90/share buyout
Fonds HATE him. Find out how he beats the market with this simple trick

>>16317921
This.
>>16317916
Looks like we control the markets now anons.

AMRN shooting right back up as expected.

>>16317909
for who do you work for on that list?
https://fintel.io/sos/us/refr

>>16317931
Anon, maybe sell half your shares and buy back later today.

>>16317916
might as well just go all in on LABU and BIB if the FDA is only pressing the "approve" button

better yet, let's start our own biotech company, sell some basic product with wild claims, grab that easy FDA approval and sell out to Pfizer for 20billion next year. Easy money. It's the true infinite money glitch. Trump wasn't able to bully the fed to pump the markets enough, so instead he's forcing the fed to approve everything. Pump all the pharmaceutical companies into the stratosphere for the lads on /smg/

>>16317931
If you do it now, you would have recovered some of the losses

>>16317943
>inb4 Alex see this post

Based retard analyst putting AMRN on sale.

Based KO

>>16317942
>>16317952
What losses? My Average is 16.72. I am only making money.

>REFR

Holy fuck. HEXO right now

>>16317943
Well I did say punt. Naturally you would want to do some due diligence on the product and company, hopefully with some input from the Big Brain pharmabros here. No reason not to try with a few hundred if you have the spare funds, from my pov.

So on that note, who knows anything about AQST?

>>16317964
Rank 1393
https://www.tipranks.com/analysts/leland-gershell

Comapred to /ouranalyst/ >>16317594 that gave it 51 by end of Dec who is Rank 563

>only have ~500 shares of MTNB

enough?

>>16317995
"Based on the word of the Street, Gershell seems to be the sole bear running loose here. Out of 10 analysts polled by TipRanks in the last 3 months, 7 rate AMRN stock a Buy, while two say Hold, and one recommends Sell. The 12-month average price target stands at $27.30, marking a 20% upside from where the stock is currently trading."

>>16318004
I want to start a buy campaign on MTNB
I hope it goes down today and I can start loading up
:3

>>16318012
my avg buy is 1.34, feels kind of bad man

Canopy is up 6% in some weird twist of fates.. It always does this before reaching a new low though

>>16318021
1.36 here

>>16316888
Trips have spoken I went all in on amrn myfirst stock purchase, I'm holdin it like deez nuts

>>16318021
My avg is also 1.34

[I don't want to clutter /biz/ with a new thread for this simple question, so I'm putting it here. Semi releavant]

I remember reading an article about an upcoming service much akin to Robinhood that was supposed to originate from a "social media service" that was billed like the "twitter of investing and finance." But more in a mocking kind of way as there seems to be the same amount of shitposting and humour as on /biz/ and WallStreetBets (>inb4 you have to go back)
Can anyone provide me the name of that platform? I can't remember
Thanks in advance.
Much appreciated

>>16318044
sounds like stocktwits no?

>>16318054
Yes, that's it.
Thank you based anon.

>>16317916
AVDL and AQST already pumping, worth picking up some shares of each and holding them to the meetings.

>almost everything is red

It's all so tiresome.

Wow a friend of mine was holding a bunch of TORC. That... didn't go well.

Everything I hold is red.

>>16316975
That’s like saying about penicillin, “anon, they are literally selling mold.” Or about oxycontin, “anon, they are literally selling poppy plants.” You either haven’t done proper research and take the time to actually read adcom, or are a short.

>>16318075
>>almost everything is red
u mad?

>>16318169
nah just annoyed

RISE REFR RISE

>>16318183

I'm getting memed with AMRN, aren't I

>>16318162

>>16318203
seems so

bounced on AMRN stock and options for a loss around 21.50, better opportunities out there. ill keep an eye on it for re-entry.

>>16318257
Im down 15% and can only hold onto my sack until Dec 28th, going to be a hell of a ride

>>16318203
Fomofags, when will they learn. Didn't expect it to dump that fast kek.

Wow AMRN just keeps dropping. Cause one analyst said $7? That sounds fishy.

>>16318257
down $340 today (all my gains) bringing my total loss to $60

>>16318068
Problem is I'm not a burger and I get a 10USD for every trade - so I need to go in with a sizeable amount relative to the 10 fee

Why didn't you buy Uber bros? The bottom was in.

FUCK OPPENHEIMER

Fucking kikes

>https://www.barrons.com/articles/amarin-stock-cardiovascular-drug-competition-vascepa-51574260352

Amarin pushed back on the Oppenheimer report. “We are confident in our ability to significantly grow Vascepa with an expanded label,” the company said in a statement. “It’s also important to understand that many products have failed to demonstrate the positive results shown in REDUCE-IT and that it will take a decade or more and considerable funding for companies that have not yet started an outcomes study to potentially show benefit with products that have different mechanistic effects than Vascepa.”

>>16318275
kek I see what you did there

>>16318267
might stop following this for a few weeks whatever happens happens

>>16317093
Literally these are the times to take advantage of, when it looks “bad” lol

I took the time to hedge today and bought some puts in case shit goes way south, then I will truly get even. Cost me $120 and if it truly does crash like the idiot thinks I’ll make some great money- I make even better money if it goes up again though.

It’s unreal that an advisor with 40% success rate and a dismal average return of 3% can move a stock this much. It’s only because AMRN bashers like Barrons are giving him validity by putting out headlines saying “This financial advisor sees DOOM AND GLOOM in Amarin!” Then when you read on, literally he’s the only one. All overs have a strong buy rating with a $27-51 price target.

If you were “playing the odds,” which way would you sway? 15 advisors for, 1 against. Purely on that you would have to be long.

Oh well, if it drops way more today(now that I have my puts), I may activate one of my “day trades” and buy some more cheap cheap calls. This is a gift fuckers.

This a reversal on weed bros ? Or is this just another trick to steal my shekels

HOLY SHIT THE MARKET IS SELLING OFF LIKE CRAZY WE'RE ALL GOING TO BE POOR!

>>16318203
Yup, fuck that shit!!

Even after selling I'm still down!

>>16318292
But not you baggie right? Cause you got them SPY puts?

Can we please stop dropping the fucking value of AMRN or at least tell me when y'all are gonna do it? This shit is making my investment look really shitty. I'd love to buy in now when it's low but I kinda already went all in. Just gotta wait until the 28th...just wait until the 28th.

>>16318303
No I sold my puts on Monday.... I need VXX to go up to like $19 if I'm going to make it.

NEW

>>16318330
>>16318330
>>16318330

NEW

>>16318330

>>16318330

>>16318330

>>16318322
Same, this blows

>>16317917
Is there any source that it’s going to get bought out? Or are people here just wishful thinking?

>>16318340
>wishful thinking?
pretty much this. it was always a gamble and I fear I lost. will just hold my rapidly crashing options, fuck it. At least I didn't buy the top.

>>16318340
Top analyst has it at $51 after the FDA thing and Lipitor sold for $90 a share and analysts aying this looks like it could be the next Lipitor that X-pharma company could wer as it's crown jewel.

>>16312533
What's the last hope for this stock? Someone buys them out before the big pharma meeting in December?

Stop paying attention to amrn and just hold the bag for the holy buyout frens

Is roku gonna pullback from its $160 price like last month?