/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>16272711
Complicate it to hide loopholes

>>16272738
This. Also tax firms lobby to make it more complicated.

>>16272711
always file with mail in paper. online submission = automated analysis. who the fuck is going to dig up a box of papers in a warehouse?

daily reminder that the IRS has its on court system and you do not get a trial by your peers.

daily reminder that withholdings hide how much tax people pay, and you are not free to opt out of withholdings and pay at the end of the year

Taxation is unironically theft.

>>16272711
>the law is so complicated you need a fucking map to navigate it
>the economy is so complicated you need a fucking map to navigate it
Thats why we need (((accountants))) and (((bankers))) and (((lawyers))) anon

>>16272994
The IRS needs to be dissolved.

If you have to use anything other than the simple form then you're equipped to navigate this.

The idea that taxes need to be this fucking complicated is unbelievable.

Hey. Hey. Did any of you dumbasses actually bother to check that the flow chart is an elaborate set of business processes that you'll never directly interact with if you filled out your forms correctly? Or is this real lolbertarian hour?

>>16273204

Then they give idiots "refunds" to make them think they are getting money for free.

> don't worry anon this patriot act will only hurt the terrorists. If your just a good boy, you will have nothing to worry about.

Good one bruh. Your right, its unlikely all these processes will be apply to you. Instead they will wait for you to make a contraversial statement or work for an organization they don't like, then they will audit you, find something wrong, and fuck you over.

>>16272711
90% of returns begin and end in the green box.

Taxes are for niggers. Literally. All your tax money is going to either aborting them or feeding them.

>>16273204
Ancap manchildren are always crawling around this shit board

>>16273810
Or roads and stuff.

>>16273184
don't kid yourself, its intentional to keep it confusing, hide loopholes, and waste money

>>16273813
roads are paid by taxes on gasoline brainlett.
99% of income taxes go to one of 2 things: interest on the debt (ie to bankers), or "entitlement payments" (ie. jamal)

>>16272738
>>16272908
I mean, sure, but the simple answer is probably this.

>>16273813
asphalt is cheap and roads existed before governments

>>16273184
>>16273829
and steal money
it's a kike scheme

>>16274830
Except there's only a single body governing taxes, you absolute fucking kike

>>16274248
And to the military and the agencies spying on all law-abiding citizens

>>16272928
must be why trump files his as a massive stack of paper. good luck to the wage cuck that has to go through that.

It's complicated because the government primarily taxes income, and in a modern economy there are a bajillion different ways to earn income(and as many ways to hide or lie about making that income).

>>16272928
>daily reminder that withholdings hide how much tax people pay
yeah like how dog food hides the medication an owner gives its dog. this is possibly the biggest reason I hate wagecucks, because they just take it without noticing like a retarded dog.

>>16272928
Having to pay throughout the year is bullshit when they can print out more fiat monopoly money. I didn’t think about paper filing, thanks for the redpill.

>>16272928
lol they just scan it into an electronic filing system

same thing with checks that old people still use, banks just scan them in as soon as they get them and then shred them after a few months.

>>16272928
this is stupid as fuck. im pretty sure when you mail in your return, they have a wagie manually type your data into an database. you’d still be subject to automated checks. if anything, you would be more visible because someone is actually looking directly at your return.

>>16275781
>>16275803

how good is their OCR? People have to be able to handwrite those. I don't doubt that they scan them, but it's definitely a separate track.
online submission literally dumps the fields into their database.

>>16274998
perfect example: nobody cares about his taxes until he is an unpopular guy. then they break out all the rules for an audit

>>16273812
,> wanting a sane tax system and rate is ancap.

how about just %18 consumption tax across the board? No filing taxes. Poor people can opt in to get a voucher to waive it and then only those on the voucher must do proof of income

>>16272711
>how did this happen and why

>>16276126
That's just an income tax with extra steps.

>>16276137

>>16272711
>how did this happen and why
A big player in all of this is actually tax expert Jeff Epstein. Every billionaire says they knew jeff through his expertise on tax laws, charity or political connections.

He was using kiddie hookers to get tax laws changed.

Its not only that but it's influenced the US heavily.

I think that's how they got Clinton to repeal glass-stegall

>>16276144
no its not. they don't have to track income (privacy). you don't have to file. there is minimal reason for tax lawyers. Rich people can't avoid it. it doesn't penalize savers it penalizes consumers

>>16276147
>Gov. calls it "a fine christmas present"
oh I bet it was

>>16272711
>how did this happen and why
>>16276137
>>16276147
>>16276209
>Gov. calls it "a fine christmas present"
>oh I bet it was

>>16272738
No actually. It's complicated to end loop holes but there are always loopholes so it always becomes even more complicated.

>>16276310
>No actually. It's complicated to end loop holes

>>16273126
It's not going to be. We need to start bombing their offices. This has never been done before

>>16273813
Then why the fuck do i have to pay tolls and taxes on my fucking gas?

>>16276207
Penalizing consumers would be disastrous for our ponzi scheme economy. Penalizing saving and encouraging consooming is how the IRS incentivizes behaviors that keep this thing from collapsing.

>tfw government worker
Thanks for working extra hard wage bitches. I get fridays off and any other day I leave early.

>>16276137
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Bruce_Ismay

The man who did the hit

>>16274830
You are too dumb or too much of a kike to post here.

>>16276461
>The ship owner destroyed his own ship
No

>>16276137
>the iceburg wasn't real. It was always da juice

>There was always a jew standing there out in the middle of the freezing ocean and using his nose he ripped a hole in the ship hull

Nobody cares about your conspiracy theories. Go back to 8flan and stay there. biz isn't for you.

Inb4: i'm a jew

>>16276612
>Nobody cares about your conspiracy theories.

I tried to warn you