/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>16197781
yeah you and 7 billion other people so get back in the rat race wagie

based and goodheartpilled
but life ain't fair

>>16197781
I just want to read books, have a nice cottage/house with a nice garden to do some permaculture, be in nature... no phone, internet... just me, nature and paper wisdom.

>>16197810
Move to India, you can do that there for 10k already. Even shitting on the streets is OK.

>>16197810
ok unabomber

>>16197789
you would be surprised how much people want to fucking work all the time

>>16197810
Sup Ted

>>16197810
based but ultimately selfish
you have a duty to improve the world desu

>>16197827
I don't care for that poo riddled place. I would die the second I stepped foot in that filthy curry smelling country.

>>16197875
I'm sorry, it is beyond saving when the help you give to people is attacked with hostility. Might as well just built something you have control over and ride the tiger as the world burns.

>>16197875
He is improving the world retard

>>16197883
There are enough places where you can live of the grid in nature, the question is if that's really utopia. Nature can be harsh.

>>16197894
it's not over until the fat lady sings my man
>>16197899
i disagree
he's retiring from toil to relax in a comfy bubble of his own creation
pleb tier and selfish, he wants to take a long holiday

>>16197781
I WANT MONEY TO INVEST IN ELON SO HE CAN MAKE FULLY FUNCTIONAL FULL VR SO I CAN CUDDLE ANIME GIRLS ALL DAY LONG AND HEAL MY CHILDHOOD TRAUMAS

>>>16197875
*build (!!!)

>>16197934
based

>>16197909
The problem arises when you have to take into account the state of politics in certain countries and how they can affect your future. I'm not saying I want to live on top of mount everest or something outlandish. I'd be perfectly happy if I lived near a forest. Imagine being near such a place every day and what a pleasant affect it has on your mental and physical well-being as opposed to a city that is deteriorating. The architecture is shit, so not even that can be admired.

>>16197980
I agree with you. Thankfully I live close enough to some forests and seashores, and when I go for a walk I can take a route that will have almost no people and buildings, just the necessary infrastructure like roads. I would probably go insane without such opportunity. The Japanese call it forest baths btw, and list a lot of health benefits, even instant stress relief.

What do you think of ecopolises? I think it's a step in the right direction, also corresponds with the metamodern narrative developing in the global culture. In fact, I think this ecofuturism would fit quite well with something like Olafur Eliasson's works applied to architecture. But I think we won't really need such a big population density anymore, so I guess the cities will look even more comfy and relaxed.

>>16197921
Just take shrooms and/or LSD bro

>>16197835
Very true. Normies' entire identity is derived from their wagecage.

>>16198072
I did. LSD itself has become very boring, even taking 3x doses. Candyflipping was cool. DXM/LSD was and I'm 99.9% sure it always will be the most pleasant experience in my life. I don't have any words to describe this experience, I'm not even able to ever have them. This is beyond everything you could imagine, like inventing a new color. LSD/Ketamine was really fucked up too, but less pleasant than LSD/DXM mix. Kind of more structured but not less dissociative at the same time. Damn dissociatives are hell to describe yet fun to take.

Actually this inability to describe some kinds of experience because it's fucking beyond everything is going to be solved by Elon's neurointerface as well. I think it's the most important thing a man is currently working on.

>>16198061

I think it's the idea of escaping your own mind and life for a moment. To just breath for once and nothing else.

>>16198061
That is interesting.
This is what I've found:
>So, what is a regenerative city - ‘Ecopolis'? It is one that relies primarily on local and regional food supplies; it is powered, heated, cooled and driven by renewable energy, and it reuses resources and restores degraded ecosystems. This is diametrically opposed to how many cities are currently run: they use resources without concern for their origins or destination of their waste products; they emit vast amounts of carbon dioxide without ensuring reabsorption and they consume huge amounts of meat produced mainly with imported feed, often from devastated rainforest regions.
I'm not sure given the current political/corporate climate such a thing would be allowed to happen. But it seems like a step in the right direction, indeed.
>Olafur Eliasson's works
Sorry, not familiar with them, but will check out.
>But I think we won't really need such a big population density anymore
Big densities are only good, at least in the psychological sense, if they are made up of people you know and are your friends, relatives...
If you're, however, in a dense place filled with who-knows-what then it is a drag. People will have less concern for their actions and will think they can get away with them more easily. Let's not forget traffic and other nonsense that goes along with it. Just performing simple actions guarantee some stress.

>>16197781
yeah, ok. working for a living is not slavery. you have the freedom to quit your job at any point and look for a new job. or you can quit your job and become homeless. or move to a new town and start completely the fuck over. the choice is yours. there is nothing even remotely close to slavery about it. slavery is unpaid, forced labor. you don't have choices, or self determination. you do all the things that your master tells you to do. for free. or else you get a physical beat down with no legal repercussions. now do you see the difference between working and slavery, jackass?

>>16197781
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>16197789
Read
>>16197835
Most people are bluepilled and identify with abstract contributions (making some fatass rich) and "hard work"

>>16197781
>i don't want to mindlessly consume, i just want to mindlessly stagnate

life is work and there is no avoiding it. if you're not occupied by some kind of contract that makes you work for someone else, ideally you're working on bettering yourself.
the people that refuse to simply get even harsher lessons (= work) by what they call "fate".
you are not here to just exist and then not exist, you are here to improve.

>rich people making shit up just to feel they don't have it as good as they have it

Hahaha imagine working in a society in which which you legitimately are in love with your volk and country and are fulfilled by an honest labor position hahaha that would be funny bro the right side totally won ww2 hahahaha

>>16198155
Oh yeah, that is a luxury pleasure we only allow to ourselves once in a blue moon.

>>16198201
> Big densities are only good, at least in the psychological sense, if they are made up of people you know and are your friends, relatives...
What 'big' are we talking here? Because something as uncrowded as a typical american suburb could well fit your frens and this scale is also totally stress-free. Imagine there being no roads because we got rid of cars!

>>16198270
bluepilled af jesus
if you think working 8 hours a day(if youre lucky) with +- 1 hour of commute is not slavery just because youre getting paid then youre severly mistaken

50% of your monthly income goes for paying rent, taxes and bills, 25% is food and 25% is idk, saving? yeah good luck with saving with that, the system is designed so you literally have little to none savings

8 hours a day(if lucky, 60hrs work weeks are becoming norm) +-1 hour of commute + 8 hours of sleep is 17 hours, so you ahve 7 hours left in that time. You come back from work at around 5pm, you have to cook, everyone is too tired to go out EsgjkirqhWBKJAETWB THIS IS NOT LIFE HOW CAN YOU NOT SEE IT.

JSUT BECAUSE NO ONE IS STANDING ABOVE YOU WITH A FUCKING GUN AND TELLS YOU THEY WILL KILL YOU IF YOU DONT WORK DOESNT MEAN ITS NOT SLAVERY, THE SYSTEM IS LITERALLY DESIGNED FOR WAGIES TO BE SLAVES WITH THE AMOUNT OF INCOME WE ARE GETTING AND TAXES AND RENT BEING EXPENSIVE AS FUCK

>>16198270
Shut the fuck up boomer. Most people work to survive and are in fact slaves to their situation. Unlike you 50+ year old faggots, our generation cannot simply pack a bag, take off, and land a random job somewhere that pays well enough to buy a bungalow and raise 5 kids, you mong.

>>16198270
>You can work, or be homeless! Your choice! You don't have a gun pointed at your head.

Yes, I can work, or I can become homeless and die in the cold or from some ailment like an abscessed tooth.

>>16198137
Based psy/dis tripper. I'm trying LSD and DXM next week. Probably 170ug then a low 2nd plat 2-3 hours in, and will go from there.

>>16197781
>work is slavery
>cooming and vidya all day is freedom

>>16199737
>cooming and vidya is the only other option
go dilate

>>16198288
How the fuck is that "improving"? Is sitting in a cubicle for 10 hours a day followed by 2 hours of commuting an improvement? Because that's how most people live their lives. The endless pursuit of materialistic goods and the payment of debts.

What an awesome life.

>>16198061
>>16198288
>>16200038

Ted Kacyzinski wrote this, read it, its interesting. Its from Technological Slavery which is worth reading for the psychology and philosophy, not necessarily the political parts.

>>16200325
He's right, but most people would never trade convenience for tranquility.

>>16200864
Maybe, idk. If you've read ISAIF you'd know his whole philosophy is based off the notion that everybody needs to deal directly with LIFE OR DEATH matters in their everyday life, because its what makes life meaningful. He spelled it out for himself right there.

>>16197781
>not willing to spend time in exchange for money

and that's why you're poor. You're always spending time, might as well get something in exchange