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What's the best way to protect assets, make money, and come out on top during a recession, and how should we prepare for it?

>> No.16162754

Physical Silver.

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>> No.16162785

>>16162725
>Reduce / Consolidate debt
>Move out of equities
>Keep cash on hand to take advantage of deals
>Brush up your resume in case you get laid off

>> No.16162815

>>16162785
So basically just horde cash and wait for the dip to buy in?

>> No.16162895

>>16162815
depends on your country, USD yes, any other currency probably no

>> No.16162927

>>16162895
Instead of hording cash, what do you think about investing in crypto like btc and link?

>> No.16162939

>>16162754
have you actually bothered to look at silver performance during recession

>> No.16162949
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>>16162754
The price of silver has already increased because of FUD of recession, and there's no signs that it will increase while it may decrease quite a bit.

What's the resale process like with physical silver?

>> No.16162955

>>16162949
>t. Retard

>> No.16162983

>>16162725
Ray dalio's all weather portfolio is gucci

>> No.16162986

>>16162927
the honest answer, nobody knows how crypto will behave during a recession.

>> No.16162996

>>16162754
>“/thread”-ing your own post

>> No.16163065
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>>16162955
I don't blindly follow /biz/ fads like you, so I took the time to look at the performance of silver and gold during the past recessions. If there was a time to buy, that would've been 5-6 months ago around the time the yield curve inverted. It's unlikely that silver will increase based on historical data, but more likely than not it will decrease in the upcoming months before it sees another boost if at all.

>> No.16163074

>>16162986
It will behave like a junk bond. Every one will run to safety.

>> No.16163108

>>16163074
we dont know because crypto didnt see a recession yet.
we can argue about it but we will know when it's . i expect it to drop, just like gold did and the keep rising.

>> No.16163129

>>16163074
I hope it does, I want to buy more at discount!

>> No.16163148

>>16163108
Gold has actual value. Crypto does not, other than speculation. But we will see, I'm not hopeful on it

>> No.16163213

>>16163148
How is golds value not speculative as well? Its use in electronics/industrial applications?

>> No.16163224

>>16163074
>>16163108
>>16163148

Note that both Venuzuela and Argentina have had recessions that made BTC MORE VALUABLE.

This is real world data. Naturally this bars a global recession and one can only speculate, but the developments have been interesting, and also provide a REAL WORLD use case for BTC as sovereign wealth.

>> No.16163455

Make sure to dilate so you can sell your body

>> No.16163511

>>16163224
>>16163224
venezuela and Argentina experienced hyperinflation and capital controls. This won't happen in the US or most stable countries, retard.

OP;

long 10+ yr Us or UK government bonds once this equity rally cools, some time next year, plenty of ETFs for this - as equities drop, interest rates, yields on bonds will consequently drop and long term bonds will go up in price as they did in 2019 (15-20%)
Gold. Gold will be in a secular bull market. Ignore the silver faggots.
Bitcoin to your risk appetite, I'm heavily invested, many aren't but can't ignore it totally
Finally, cash to buy cheap equities - but i personally don't see a recession for one year minimum.

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>>16163511
Intredesting. I think it depends on the 2020 election as well. Xi Jinping might be holding out on a trade deal with the US to wait and see who's elected. If he sees that Trump will most likely win, or after he has won, he will commit to a deal that will give investors reassurance.

>> No.16163676

>>16163663
there will be no deal ever

>> No.16163729

>>16163065
shut the fuck up reddit pseudintellectual, you will never understand, dont buy

>> No.16163760

>>16162725
long equities and buy an approximately equal nominal amount of put options on some index like instrument. The options will be your insurance against a market downturn allowing you to go on a buying spree as any major downturn will be protected.

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16163877

How can it be a recession for a person that is depressed and recessed everyday? Become depressed and you gonna just dodge it

>> No.16163894

>>16163729
This

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>>16163729
>>16163894
>joins /biz/ at peak crypto golden bull
>bought BTC at $20k
>sold at the bottom
>unironically buys silver before the dip
>still listens to /biz/ shills
>"you will never understand"

>> No.16164606

>>16163760
what is the point, the premium of the put is so expensive it cancels out your gains

>> No.16164637

>>16162754
No way I'm going paying 19% VAT for some shiny rocks

>> No.16164704

>>16162785
This is pretty solid. I'm not trying to time the market, but I'm shifting some of my portfolio from equities to bonds and have also been writing covered calls on some of my stocks since I don't see the market going up that much in the next six months. Once the recession does hit, it'll be good to have some cash available to take advantage of bargains. I started my first real job back in 2008 and put everything I could into stocks that got hammered and most did really well for the next few years.

>> No.16164746

>>16162725
>What's the best way to protect assets?
Gold

>To make money?

Hold silver, Silver will go up during a major recession. Banks do not hold large amounts like gold so it goes up in value, Anything that says otherwise is FUD. Another way to make money during a recession is to invest in good solid companies like at&t(pioneering 5G in america) or any company that dips during the recession. AT&T should go sub 30$ during the recession, Giving you an opportunity to load up on it. Great dividends and you can get a lot of shares while it's cheap.

>> No.16164828

>>16163663
fully expect a deal in place prior to the election to boost Trump's hopes.

Also, i need to remphasise.

US T Bills and UK Gilts (both bonds) will do well in the next 5 years as world wide central bank interest rates reach or fall below 0.

>> No.16164872

>>16162785
you're trolling with #1 #2 #3 right?

you WANT debt before a recession

>> No.16165111

>>16164872
this guy fucks

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>>16164872
Why would you want debt before a recession? Assuming that inflation gets out of hand and wages/earnings are adjusted proportionally and you're not laid off, then okay. But imagine telling someone to take out a mortgage in 2006-7 because they should want debt during a recession.

>> No.16166093

>>16162725
Lol you're gonna get so burned when the fed pumps another 200 billion I to the market