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>> No.16118840

>>16118821
Recession when
Crash when

>> No.16118846

Buy MSFT

>> No.16118997

>>16118840
No time soon. Be a bear at your own demise.

>> No.16119024

When I buy or sell stocks then the order doesn't land in the order book of the exchange. No, I buy and sell from and to a market maker. When I buy then a market maker shorts shares into my account and the order shows up in regsho as short. When I sell then my order is registered as long. That's what Mr Lemons's DIX is based on. Short ratio on lit exchanges is not free data though and therefore he uses the data of dark pools. The dix doesn't follow the chart movements or coversely. Mr Lemon himself even acknowledges this. He thinks that market makers buy back the shares or sell them in a way which doesn't affect price too much. My question also => Who the fuck makes the chart patterns then?

>> No.16119105
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>>16119024
>Who the fuck makes the chart patterns then?
me
:3

>> No.16119107

sixth for UUUU

big guy stonk

>> No.16119122

>>16119107
I bought in at 1.65 awhile back and sold in the 2s, just got back in under 2. It has to go up right? Right??

>> No.16119158

>>16118846
You need to go back in time to get MSFT at a good price. The point is to be 5 steps ahead.

>> No.16119206

>>16119122
idk. I snagged some 5 dollar calls for April I'm gonna hold for a while and see if anything happens by EOY. Maybe something happens, maybe not

>> No.16119218
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16119218

Is there a website that lists the stock holders from companies around the world?

Found out recently that Renaissance Technologies LLC owns 1 % of Manchester United ($9 million dollars)

>> No.16119230

>>16119024
MMs can easily get fucked during high volatility. They love crab markets and hate vol.

>> No.16119235

>>16119218
fintel
https://fintel.io/i/renaissance-technologies-llc

>> No.16119345

Looks like Berkshire cheapies aren’t on the menu
;_;

>> No.16119375

>>16119345
Told you guys awhile back that nigger needs to spend his catch. Spy is up 22% vs their 5.something%. Short term treasuries...
Just buy SPY nigger if you cant find anything else, dumb old bastard. Knows so much but is such a fucking retard

>> No.16119387

>>16119375
You'd recommend Warren to buy at ATHs?

>> No.16119483
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16119483

PLEASE TELL ME I DIDNT FUCK UP, TELL ME IM PRETTY PLEASE

>> No.16119491

>>16119483
>he didn’t buy the Majors
>he didn’t buy RING
>he didn’t buy PICK

Son, you don goof’d

>> No.16119508

>>16119375
rsp only true sp500

>> No.16119532

>>16119483
You did a really good job and I'm proud of you~
You are so pretty please~

>> No.16119616

Will UBER tank on monday?

>> No.16119618
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16119618

You guys reckon SPY would keep going up next week? My calls are on the line.

>> No.16119632

>>16119616
I don't think so.
dix shows buying.
Tesla had buying too before they murdered earnings.

>> No.16119676

>>16118821

What's an ideal account for sole proprietors? I max out the roth IRA with a target index fund already. Most of my money is reinvested since my personal expenses are low.

For the time being I've cherry picked WY and MO in taxable accounts to siphon dividends. Reinvest those if the yield is high otherwise I pocket it. MO dividends are taxed fully unfortunately but the WY is qualified as a sale of long term capital gains.

I'm not really at a level where I think a s-corp is ideal to pay myself a salary so everything is pass through income to myself.

>> No.16119682

>>16119230
Sure, but who makes the sharp trendlines if normal people who do the buying and selling only affect the strock price dimished and with a certain delay? Why do stocks have outlier days like snss without news?

>> No.16119689

>>16119483
Im cautiously optimistic on my $1 June calls.

>> No.16119712

>>16119632
Thanks. What is "dix" though? I'm still a newbie at this.

>> No.16119729

>>16119712
https://squeezemetrics.com/monitor/download/pdf/short_is_long.pdf?
https://twitter.com/SqueezeMetrics

>> No.16119745

>>16119387
I would have and those ATHs would have faded with time as we have seen. It’s what i would have done with lots of money or a long term port(and i did).
And its pretty simple, if you get so big you can’t keep up your rate of return you just gotta find new stuff or buy other big industry guys to make sure you dont lag behind. Now they are noticeable lagging behind cause he is just sitting on cash buy short term treasuries. Hebgnsight is 2020 but still, plenty of great opportunities this year, fucking dupont...
Buy more khc...

>> No.16119759

>>16119676
>I'm not really at a level where I think a s-corp is ideal to pay myself a salary so everything is pass through income to myself.

Only s-corps can take advantage of pass through income. Sole proprietors have to pay the full payroll tax on all their income.

>> No.16119776

What's the best opeth song?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSpqLqC7U6g

>> No.16119821

>>16119729
Thank you

>> No.16119830

>>16119745
>Hebgnsight is 2020
man I'm going to say "hindsight is 20/20 AT least 365 days next year
people are going to be exasperated by the time I'm through with them. I'm going to make so many stupid 2020 puns people will wish it was 2012
cannot WAIT hehe

>> No.16119845

>>16119830
Auto correct, thought it was too funny to fix

>> No.16119991

>>16119759

Got the terminology mixed up but yes, that's what I essentially meant. I make enough as if I was full time but I don't think it'd be enough to make a s-corp worth it. I'd probably want to have an income north of six figures and growing.

What do you think about SEP IRAs and Solo 401ks? I'm thinking of a traditional account since my IRA is a roth already.

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>>16119776
I like Drapery Falls. Demon of the Fall is good too.

>> No.16120118

>>16118821
>https://nhentai.net/tag/crab/
based

>> No.16120309

Hmm, should I sell KHC monday and take profit? Rumor/speculation is that they are gonna cut the Divvy again. So once they do that the stock will fall like a rock. I'd guess the fall would be half of it's current price now.

>> No.16120420

>>16119682
mm do blocktrades, large funds do blocktrades too.

>> No.16120458

>>16120309
>Rumor/speculation is that they are gonna cut the Divvy again
what
the whole point of cutting the divvy so much was so that they wouldn't have to cut it again. They'll be paying down their debt and still making money.
KHC bears will be drowned in the ketchup vats and buried in the Planters nuts fields.

>> No.16120539

Liked that PINS drop the other day. Reminds me of FB in the early days. It suffered a big blow then after it recovered it spiked like crazy. I was in PINS before, sold during the high, now I bought back in at the low.

>> No.16120947

>>16120539
Pinterest is a piece of shit lately though. They unironically started banning accounts because they saved porn pictures.
Tumblr 2.0, don't buy.

>> No.16120974

>>16120309

What price did you acquire?

The Kraft business keeps writing down their brand value. They're in a tough position where store brand / private labels are able to gain and retain customers from a quality/value offering.

In addition, you have a shift in consumer taste as well. The households that have more income are leaning towards 'smart/healthy' options for their kids, albeit I think prepackaged 'smart' foods are a joke nutritionally. However, I do think there is a risk of people willing to turn to cooking themselves and using raw ingredients. The point overall is that a lot of their brands under Kraft are not as staple as they thought.

However, the Heinz brands/business has been well enough for them. Nothing more to say really.

Their corporate structure is also probably stressing everyone the fuck out. They've been great at growing their operational margins to their advantage but it's ridiculous in some cases. I think they've been working hard to suppress reviews but there's plenty of workers griping about how they have to pay for shit, bring their own utensils to eat, etc.

>> No.16121023

>>16120947
Tumblr would do that shit and then keep up kiddie porn

>> No.16121053

>>16120309
>>16120458
>>16120974
I have 100 shares bought @ 28.50. Up $411 total. Should I jump ship?

>> No.16121112

>>16121053
It depends what you were planning with those shares.
Personally I'd sell given the resistance. You can still buy in again later should it go through.

>> No.16121135

>>16121112
Well I should have said it's in my dad's IRA. I initially invested for the dividend. I've been spreading over stocks that are paying a decent dividend with growth potential.
And yes, I have permission, he asked me to do this because he knows less than 0 and gets scared anytime I even try to show him earnings we made.

>> No.16121142

>>16121135
>my dad's IRA.
I'm not an amerifag. I don't know what this is.
I'm out.

>> No.16121170

>>16121053
I'm holding
If you do sell, what else will you put that money towards?
The number of shares and dollar values aren't what's important, you should post percentages.
If it's above 5% of the account, you should definitely sell down to about that amount. Otherwise it's probably OK, depending on what the other holdings are.

>> No.16121205

>>16121135

'dad's IRA' - I wouldn't want my money allocated in single stocks in my IRA... it really needs the safety of diversification through index / target funds.

>> No.16121216 [DELETED] 

>>16121135
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>> No.16121233

>>16121170
I would probably wait for the price to go back down and buy it again. I am curious about the fact they might cut the div, if they do, I'd find a different company with a decent div and growth. I'll try to answer your percentages questions.
KHC 100shr @ $28.50 Up 14.42%

>>16121205
It was set up in all mutual funds originally. I'd rather not go into what happened but had to liquidate and this is where we are now. Also, I'm following instructions and his wishes by stocks. We do have 820 shares of ABNDX

>> No.16121286

>>16121216
1 - go to grocery store
2 - ask for toilet paper
3 - pay with shit stained money
4 - use toilet paper instead of hand
5 - never have shit stained money anymore
Thank me later, bro

>> No.16121301

Guess I'll hold to, it's not a big position so if it tanks the loss won't be that painful. Plus the Divvy, I'll enjoy it while the getting is good. Even if it does get cut in half (0.40 to 0.20), that's still decent if you bought the stock when it was in the shat. (I did). Hell Comcast only pays out 0.21 for ex and it costs over $40 per. (I'm in Comcast to,btw)

>> No.16121315

>>16121286
Please don't answer to Ramesh. The more (you)s he gets in a thread the more he posts in it.

>> No.16121331

>>16121315
I don't mind him.
I wish he would actually talk to us

>> No.16121362 [DELETED] 

>>16121301
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>> No.16121553
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16121553

have to buy 100 shares of something to start writing covered calls, what should I buy?

>> No.16121608

>>16119387
Yes, you dummy. Third fed rate cut in a row = 20-30% stock gains in the next 12 months. Also, buy PMs.

>> No.16121668

>>16119618
Yes. But you might get a little fucked by volatility. The forthcoming bubble top rally we are entering will truly be the most hated stock market rally of all time. And it will be fueled by the squeezed bankrolls of delusional bobos that finally decide to go long after losing 75% by jan/feb 2020. Best gains will be in "boring" blue chip value plays that missed most of the 2009-2019 bull market. Think INTC, WBA, MMM, etc. Defensive plays will also continue to rocket as no one trusts the bubble. Prime time to begin accumulating puts on big debt holding/mgmt companies, especially in subprime/toppy markets like auto loans (see CACC), as they will all go bankrupt.

Semiconductors will be great longs as technology marches forward and more chips are needed for all the new wagecuck/normie enslavement and hunterkiller tech coming down the pipe to keep uppity populations in check.

>> No.16121682

>>16120974
Amazing. This sounds exactly like the argument for spinning off a legacy business, basically breaking up a business. “It would unlock value for Heinz if they could spinoff their dying legacy business Kraft”

What a catastrophic merger.

>>16119375
I said they were NOT on the menu. As in, earning beat estimates.

Warren’s using his cash strategically, buying companies like the banks that were generally priced below book value until recently. He’s buying the companies that are too big to fail, while they are trading at a discount. And he’s lending out money himself like a bank, because borrowing money from Berkshire is valuable in that you get to attach his name to yours. He’s making bank off that occidental petroleum deal simply because he has those large piles of cash.

If the street is disappointed and BRKB sells off I’m definitely buying more. And warren will be buying back stock as well. Please explain your take because it sound like a brainlet argument but I’m probably missing something and I’m sure there’s something you could teach me.

>> No.16121713

Also, to add to the KHC meme...food/bev sector is in the dumps in general. Lots of value plays here. Especially the cheap/value/trash food companies. As inflation really gets going, wages stagnate, and the bubble pops, plebes still need to eat, and they won't be eating double mocha skinny organic onions latte flavored grass fed wagyu chicken jerky anymore, but good ol' wonderbread and ketchup sandwiches full of aluminum nitrite sodium bosphate gum.

Lastly, about time to hunt for dude weed value plays, as Trump will lock in 2020 with his October surprise announcing his support for Federal legalization of cannabis, locking in every hypocrite hippie wook fuck trumper because dude muh weed.

>> No.16121727

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqAgyZ_hkRw
Why does it have to be weekend? Why?

>> No.16121785
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>>16121331
He’s a bot, they don’t do much replying.

Somewhat related, i was getting election/debate emails a few months back, and what I thought was a bought seems like it might be a real person. Is this what TWILIO allows companies to do? They can’t actually be texting everyone individually, can they?

>> No.16121820

>>16121682

They were doing great initially because the management was able to deliver on their promise of improving operating margins.

It is kind of funny going all the way back and reading through glass door reviews. I had applied myself and went through the process. There was definitely a high expectation to make something out of nothing but your wit, gut instinct, and probably half of your week pulling in unpaid overtime for no bonus in the end (the end of year reviews are the best).

Imagine being top of your class and your tasked with turning around Lunchables in Target / Walgreens / etc. You have a product that is essentially 3 old bread stick things, a few slices of well over due salami and cheese, and a capri sun pouch. And they have to pay $2.78 for this.

How much more blood can they squeeze out of that rock?

>> No.16121840

>>16121713

A tough part for KHC / junk food plays is the generic brands that have been growing and taking marketshare an alarming rate. Why do a "deal" of $10 for 10 Kraft boxes when Aldis has 47 cent cheesy noodles?

They're stuck in a weird position of not being able to command premium prices for shit products and not being cheap enough as a shit product.

They have products like coffee that will forever pay them in free cash flow but why do a financed $100b+ merger for that?

>> No.16121860

>>16121840
Good point. Their products are in the middle at a time when the barbell approach is the only way to win.

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What are some plays for next week?

>> No.16121891

Is there any reason not to put my bear fund money in a money market fund? It can’t LOSE money somehow, can it?

>> No.16121924
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I'm a retard playing with penny stock covered calls.

There's no way this stock will reach $2.05 in a few weeks.

So, this means I retain my 100 shares that I put up, plus the premium of $5 at expiration?

>> No.16121941

I'm in DF for nothing but the next rise then I plan to sell like mad. The company is slowly circling the drain. A buyout is not gonna happen, hell the stock was 0.73 while back and not one Big Fish took the bait so a buyout won't save the company and stockholders won't be getting any green baggie that way. The new ceo is supposed to be shaking things up so this upcoming earning report will tell the tale on if it's working or not. 50/50 shot you'll come out either in the Green or in the Red.

>> No.16121947

>>16121885
Is that what he looks like?
If they can hold this incel’s feet to the fire instead of just letting him declare bankruptcy and do it again 7 years, that would please me greatly.

I don’t understand his rationale for shorting Microsoft or shorting Apple at all. “Bearish DD” seems like “it would be nice if they stopped going up”

>> No.16121956

>>16121941
Now THAT sounds like bearish DD. If you were going to short a company into earnings, DF seems like a solid pic. Moo.

>> No.16122041

>>16121885
This hurt to watch but fuck me it was hilarious

>> No.16122059

>>16119483
GORO is what you should switch to

>> No.16122143

>>16121885
How much would he be if he did calls instead?

>> No.16122181

>>16122041
>>16121885
>>16121553
Quotes from this “investor”:
>What are some good corporations to invest in that don't have women?

>I have sired 3 sons so far (more on the way). And you're right. I always tell others to not reproduce because the way I see it, if you're responsible enough to use abortion/contraception then you should definitely use those instead of contributing to overpopulation. I am definitely too lazy/irresponsible to use contraception and I would never let my own sons be aborted. But it's why I try to make up for my irresponsibility by trying to convince others to not reproduce so I consider it balanced.

>I love margin trading though and as soon as as I grind out the minimum amount of capital (through wagery or loan) I will try again.

>>16122143
Or just straddles...

>> No.16122216 [DELETED] 

>>16121885
How can you go negative?

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>>16122181
short straddles fucked me hard

>> No.16122676
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I'm trying to start a machine learning project to categorize bad news for companies. Does pic related cover all the categories or are there some that I missed?

>> No.16122716

>>16119991
I have a sep-IRA, a roth IRA, a traditional IRA, and a traditional IRA in my wifes name.

they save me thousands in taxes.

>> No.16122808

>>16122676
You forgot saying nigger in the earnings call

>> No.16122869

>>16122676
Add dilutive cash raises. If you hold a small to smallish mid cap stock that opts to raise money via placement (shares and warrants at a set cost, usually with a lock up date) sell instantly and buy back in after the placement deal closes. It's common for relatively new companies to do this sort of thing. If you ever trade the dude weed you will become well acquainted with the practice.

>> No.16122890

what are some stock market related tools that you wish existed? i feel like trying to build something this weekend

>> No.16122895

>>16122869
Maybe add umbrella category 'dilution' with sub categories of cash raises, investor unfavorable mergers & acquisitions resulting in share dilution etc.

>> No.16122917

>>16122808
fucking Papa John... what an absolute madman
Past FIZZ, TSLA, and UNH earnings calls also show examples of CEO's just saying stupid shit that tanks their value for a moment.

Promiscuous customers is also a brilliant new addition.

>> No.16122937

Is $PETS closing the gap?
Might buy for a swing when it hits the other side

>> No.16122948

Is there a way to figure out which DUDEWEED companies might be experiencing grow problems from the california power outages?

>> No.16122980

>>16122948
Can you invest in any california dude weed companies?

>> No.16123041

>>16122948
That would require the manual digging i think. Identify the locations of the companies' operations and crosscheck against the power outage areas.

>>16122980
Yes there are a few. All are listed on the Canadian CSE and available to buy from US through OTC.

>> No.16123052

>>16123041
Bear in mind that any grow op worth a damn will have on site generators so they can stay online during outages.

>> No.16123388

>>16123052
>generators
true... but then there must be some that are just getting ruined by proximity to the fires.

>> No.16123508

>>16122676
Dude there are so many things that can impact a company negatively. Consider industry factors, the state of the economy, prices of inputs, foreign exchange, management changes (not necessarily a scandal, but losing a good ceo), more to do with the financial status of the company (there's a lot more to it than just earnings expectations), even just the regulations category contains different kinds of things like environmental, labour (including minimum wage changes for instance which effect costs), consumer protection type stuff, etc. There's a lot.

>> No.16123527

>>16122890
a crystal ball

>> No.16123538

>>16122890
wavelet filtering

>> No.16123561

>>16122676
Your 4 "highest level" bad news categories are going to be the following:
economy-wide
sector-wide
stock specific
other

The most important "bad news" things that you forgot are news in relations buyouts, and in regards to biotech companies trial results (drug approvals you got under regulation). If a drug company misses on trial results OR a direct competitor succeeds on a trial that is VERY bad news.
these things are all 15 year old categorizations (IE, standardized between top quant funds ~8 years ago), so I don't know how much alpha you're going to generate... you should end up with around 50-60 final low-level possibilities if you get all the sectors, then about 30-40 in each "sector" basket.

>> No.16123562

>>16122808
>>16122869
>>16122895
Thanks for the feedback. I was thinking of Papa John and Elon under the leadership scandal category, but maybe scandal is not the right word for it?
>>16123508
I agree, but that's not really part of the scope(or at least not yet) for what I'm trying to do- baby steps first to get some broad categories for news, then maybe delve into the reason for the impact. Appreciate the input though.

>> No.16123984

>>16122890
An AI that replicated acting just like Baggie. If I could talk stock on a one on one all day basis with thrown in baggie stories in between, I know I could do very well.

>> No.16124027

>>16120309

got a source on this rumor? where did you hear khc might cut the divvy

>> No.16124364

>>16124027
Here's one. There's more if you do google search.
https://seekingalpha.com/article/4301470-kraft-heinz-possible-dividend-cut-may-overshadow-solid-earnings

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Movie night movie night! Get in here!
Tonight's feature is one last spookyspooky, Reainimator (1985) starring Jeffy Cummies!

>> No.16124526

How will Chinese stocks fair with a 2020/2021 recession?

>> No.16124680

Just kind of skimming through and are there fags here actually advocating betting against Buffet? Guy owns BNSF railway the backbone of the country. What’s wrong with y’all?

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You guys are the closest things I have to friends. I'm grateful I have this place. And all the tripfags and namefags that add some spice and continuity. And dingdingding bro and dividends r frens bro. I hope you're all having a great weekend. Thank you.

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>>16124689
gaaaaayyyyyyy

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>>16124722

>> No.16124742

>>16124689
Goodnight ole friend, rest tomorrow for the next week is a wild meme week for earnings

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>>16121885

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>>16124722
yotsuba anon could you post the picture of yotsuba going aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah? thanks fren

>> No.16124929

I am all in with 410 shares of Kraft Heinz and I'm never fucking selling.

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>>16124917
do you mean this one or another one

>>16124929
your faith will be rewarded with big cash returns

>> No.16124966

>>16124933
wasn't there a black and white one too? i think its the one you usually post when bears are celebrating nothing

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Hello and happy and boring weekend /smg/. I don't normally post youtube videos here but I thought some of you might find this one interesting from a market perspective. It's a time lapse bar chart of the most popular websites from 96 - 2019. I think it puts some good perspective on how things can very quickly change, how juggernauts of tech media and crash and burn. Nothing is ever too big to fail.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Uj1A9AguFs

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HO LEE PHUK
pls SPY, don't you dare fall on Monday

>> No.16125056
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>>16124689
This is definitely one of the only generals that feels like an actual "community"

>> No.16125071

>>16125056
Probably because this is failed crypto traders cope general

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>>16124966
the bears have been getting uppity all year, so I'm going to have to look through my YotsuArchive
I will do my best, but your best course of action is to (re)read the entire manga. Because it's great and cute.

>> No.16125141

>>16124516
AAAh I missed a lovecraft adaptation?
Was it any good?

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Can oil moon this week pls? I would like oil to moon. Another of those high seas Iranian larps would do the trick.

>> No.16125539

BREAKING: Saudi Arabia announces the start of the initial public offering of its state oil giant Saudi Aramco.BREAKING: Saudi Arabia announces the start of the initial public offering of its state oil giant Saudi Aramco.BREAKING: Saudi Arabia announces the start of the initial public offering of its state oil giant Saudi Aramco.BREAKING: Saudi Arabia announces the start of the initial public offering of its state oil giant Saudi Aramco.BREAKING: Saudi Arabia announces the start of the initial public offering of its state oil giant Saudi Aramco.

>> No.16125545

>>16125539
DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) — Saudi Arabia formally started its long-anticipated initial public offering of its state-run oil giant Saudi Aramco on Sunday, which will see a sliver of the firm offered on a local stock exchange in hopes of raising billions of dollars for the kingdom.

An announcement from the kingdom’s Capital Market Authority serves as a starting gun for an IPO promised by Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman since 2016.

Initial plans call for the firm’s shares to be traded on Riyadh’s Tadawul stock exchange, then to later put other shares on a foreign exchange.

Prince Mohammed hopes for a very-optimistic $2 trillion valuation for Aramco, which produces 10 million barrels of crude oil a day and provides some 10% of global demand. That would raise the $100 billion he needs for his ambitious redevelopment plans for a Saudi Arabia hoping for new jobs, as unemployment stands at over 10%.

However, economic worries, the trade war between China and the U.S. and increased crude oil production by the U.S. has depressed energy prices. A Sept. 14 attack on the heart of Aramco already spooked some investors, with one ratings company already downgrading the oil giant.

The announcement by the Capital Market Authority offered no timeline for the IPO.

“The Capital Market Authority board has issued its resolution approving the Saudi Arabian Oil Co. application for the registration and offering of part of its shares,” the authority said in its statement. “The company’s prospectus will be published prior to the start of the subscription period.”

The Saudi-owned satellite channel Al-Arabiya reported last week, citing anonymous sources, that pricing for the stock will begin Nov. 17. A final price for the stock will be set Dec. 4, with shares then beginning to be traded on the Tadawul on Dec. 11, the channel reported. The channel is believed to have close links to the kingdom’s Al Saud royal family.

>> No.16125548

is natural gas totally fucked?

>> No.16125553

>>16125539
This is real terrible bad for the markets, and makes me want to take profits on some things... if I could figure out what those things are.
>>16125545
Oh not til December?
jesus fuck it's already november...
>>16125526
I don't see it going much lower, which has me eying the juicy yield on USOI and feeling very tempted. I guess those 1-day spikes could fuck it up though?

>> No.16125657

>Intercept Announces New NASH and PBC Data to be Presented at The Liver Meeting® 2019

Morningstar is pretty bullish on these guys.

Pendulum, paging Pendulum.
They looking like they finna dab on GALT

(honestly I'm far too lazy to look into how their drug functions and what aspects of the disease it treats. MS thinks the concerns over side effects are over blown.)

>> No.16125803

>>16125539
>>16125545
Is anyone actually thinking about buying into Aramco's IPO....

>> No.16125890

>>16125803
Fuck no.

>> No.16125896

>>16125803
Maybe buy some puts 2 months out. Other than that nah.

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How we playing Disney earnings? It’s one of my long HODLs, but I feel like I should probably take profits before they reveal how much money they’ve been spending. Also my basis is way too high.

Crazy, this used to be one of my most profitable positions
Now it’s looking like one of the riskiest. The streaming wars could do some real damage to everyone involved.

>> No.16125930

>>16125548
No it's still in a bullish leg up and could make its way to high 2.60's again.

>> No.16125962

здapoвa хoхлы. pyccкиe ecть? хyлe тyт y вceх внимaниeблядcкиe ники?

>> No.16125966

what is MNK? normal? ignore?

>> No.16126783

>>16125966
NILSY

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This is $AMD

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This is how $AMD looks like if you normalize for tradinghours

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This is the missing component / ahs aggregated

>> No.16127252

>>16126796
>>16126793
>>16126788
where's your MACD and RSI?

>> No.16127305

Is someone all in aapl?

>> No.16127318

>>16127252
Down the street.
I prefer Burger King though.
Don't know what you mean with rsi.

>> No.16127572

Do we not shill KNG here anymore?

>> No.16127710

>>16127572
QYLD is just way better

>> No.16127762

>>16125657
>MS thinks the concerns over side effects are over blown

if anything, they're underblown imo
most people are just focused on LDL increases and itching (which are bad in their own right), but there are much more serious issues for that drug

ICPT's drug is an FXR agonist, which means it works by increasing FGF19 (and in their drug's case, does so massively)
Increased levels of FGF19 are implicated in many types of cancer, including heptocellular carcinoma (which NASH patients are already at an increased risk of as is), breast cancer, ovarian cancer, and colorectal adenoma
Also, ICPT's drug has been linked to liver injury and increased rates of complications related to cirrhotic decompensation even at normal doses (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK548806/#overview)), despite the fact that the company explained away the fact that their drug killed 19 people with late stage cirrhosis by saying that doctors """"dosed them incorrectly""""
The incorrect dosing was 5 mg daily (the same that the normally use in less severe PBC patients, I believe), and the doses they're aiming for in NASH are 10mg and 25 mg once daily
Also, they just barely squeaked by with a high sample size (which decreases p-values as a general rule, making it easier for a drug to pass trials) and an easy endpoint (histological regression of fibrosis)
Using histological resolution of fibrosis as an endpoint means that doctors have no way to monitor the progression of their patients other than to do a liver biopsy, which is an invasive surgical procedure and dangerous in its own right (can result in complications, and very rarely death)

In summary, it's even more dangerous than people say it is and it barely works
I'll include some sources for the things I'm saying in a reply to this post, couldn't in this one because it would have made the post too long to submit on 4chan

>> No.16127772

>>16127762
>>16125657
https://www.fiercepharma.com/marketing/fda-flags-19-deaths-ocaliva-patients-putting-intercept-s-nash-bid-doubt
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/mc.22884
https://cancerdiscovery.aacrjournals.org/content/early/2019/10/01/2159-8290.CD-19-0555
https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007%2F978-1-4614-0887-1_12
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0168827819303836?via%3Dihub
https://www.karger.com/Article/Abstract/494454
https://www.spandidos-publications.com/10.3892/or.2015.4212
https://psnet.ahrq.gov/web-mm/liver-biopsy-proceed-caution

>> No.16127809

>>16118840
recession? prob in the next quarter or what not
crash? anytime from monday to 4 years out. i would recommend not betting against the absurdity the markets are right now

>>16118846
lovely way to loose money idiot

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>>16127809
>loose

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>>16124722
feels bad, yotsuba wont win

>> No.16127863

>>16125803
fuck no, all IPOs are overvalued regardless of the underlying asset, thats literally the point of IPOs, get the highest price on shares

>> No.16127871

Reminder that it's statistically proven that less intelligent people support capitalism. Nearly all intelligent people support socialism. Capitalism is exploitation of the working class. It's an oppressive system that devastates the environment and is unsustainable.

>> No.16127892

>>16127871
>In this post: Poor COPE
Stay poor you basement dwelling NEET

>> No.16127898

Daily reminder that MRK anon is the reincarnation of Comfy

>> No.16127903

Me? I'm ready for Aramco. Fuck the planet.

>> No.16127994

>>16127710
Weird, people were saying the exact opposite two months ago. The consensus seemed to be:

KNG > QQQX > QYLD

>> No.16127997

Looks like... maybe we should've bought ATVI puts...

>>16127772
>[09-21-2017] The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) is warning that the liver disease
medicine Ocaliva (obeticholic acid) is being incorrectly dosed in some patients with moderate to severe decreases in liver function
Yeah... it does sound like the FDA is letting them get away with funny business. The LiverTox article as well, drug has potential to backfire or just stop having positive effects after being used for a while.
>>16127898
absolutely no reason for personal attacks on this lovely sunday morning. And comfy isn't even dead, he still posts now and again.

Regarding MRK, my only regrets are not buying more. (And not holding all my calls through earnings. I shouldn't regret taking profits, but they all finished well in the money, and I would have made a pretty penny. C'est la vie)

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>Ford and att dividend yeilds
>people put money in anything besides these two divvy KINGS

>> No.16128112

>>16127997
I think a lot of big pharmas are good long term picks (including MRK, for sure), though some are currently getting less love than others, making them a better deal at the moment imo
For example, BMY was a great buy at recent lows, imo
Keytruda definitely seems to be the current face of immunooncology, though, and will likely be one of the biggest blockbuster drugs in recent memory
MRK is definitely beating BMY in the IO department, but BMY has other stuff too
When the election time volatility starts to affect healthcare stocks, you'll probably be able to get some cheapies

>> No.16128186

>>16128112
True, I would likely have done well even if I bought an ABBV, AZN, or BMY. All of the drug stocks are pretty appealing on a P/E basis, and the yield on ABBV was pretty juicy at its recent lows.

>> No.16128245

Pendy re-animated a cat last night

>> No.16128519

This is interesting; Bank of new york mellon corp just increased it's stake in AMRN. Big time fat cat investor groups own almost 50% of the stock. Baker Brothers has the largest slice of that pie. Now why would these groups be buying/holding still if the FDA was gonna fuck over AMRN in only 11 days? After that milestone the odds of final green light in dec go up to 70%. The Holy Buyout could come at anytime with very little notice (see Google/Fitbit) between Nov 15th and Dec 28th. Green Baggie full of Cash awaits!

>> No.16128666

>>16118821
What do you think of aurora cannabis and why is it shilled so hard

>> No.16128670

>he isnt all in QYLD on margin
free 1000 dollareedoos every month

>> No.16128786

>>16127994
Consensus by retards on a random day.

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>>16128666
Shilled so hard by whomst, Lucifer? I think ACB will probably do alright long term. It remains firmly under the bear's paw along with the rest of the dude weed with no signs of reversal yet though.

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>>16128245
h-how did you know that

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rASpieLvH7c
Farewell, my fren

>> No.16129143

>>16125117
I have read the whole thing just don't really have time to go back and search for a single picture. It's getting hard not to add to my reading list now... I think I'm up to 40 in counting and still bored out my mind waiting for updates, but then 15 chapters might drop on a day. Such is life.

>> No.16129241

>>16129143
>>16125117
Mieruko-chan is a good ongoing manga that just started recently

>> No.16129256

Sick of seeing all the cum guzzling Disney faggots on investing forums and in this thread.

Disney is a shit investment.

Streaming is priced in, and is going to be shit.

Their media franchises are getting dated, and shit.

SJWars is shit.

Most of their money and all of their growth comes from theme parks anyways, which people are starting to realize, are shit.

No, your boomer ass is not going to get rich holding Disney because "streaming is gonna be big lol". They will be lucky to make back all the money they lost on their cable networks from people cutting cords in favor of streaming.

FUCK Disney and anyone who holds it.

>> No.16129301

>>16127809
>losing money
I have no idea what that is, I only invest in MSFT and KO and swing them weekly.

>> No.16129317

>>16127871
How do I short capitalism?

>> No.16129361

>>16129256
Disney has decades of material people are just waiting to watch again. I think you underestimate how much material has that can drop overnight. Just Disney Channel alone has shitload of shows about to be binged like crazy, shit people havent even been able to find illegally...

>> No.16129610

>>16127871
Because smart people arent that smart.
The smartest people made sure capitalism happened and became the strongest country. Socialism breeds weekness and only works in homogeneous populations, it fails spectacularly without it. Socialism doesnt even really exist anyways. Most “socialist” countries today are just secret monarchy's

>> No.16129684

>>16129361
plz don't give (you)s to such low quality posters

>> No.16129693

Short s&p this week? How about the GER30? it's at 12,900 rn

Or wait 1-2 more months?

>> No.16129723

>>16129693
I have SPY puts this week. Will see how it goes.

>> No.16129745

For Euros, what other platforms beside Degiro are worth to put my money in? Etoro is getting shilled a lot in the ad campaigns

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>>16129099
Bitmex rekt style tale of caution from the stonk market. If you ever catch yourself thinking '25x is a comfortable amount of leverage for me' you rember this fellow and rember him well.

>> No.16129927

>>16129887
Where he went wrong is revenge trading, going all in, and shorting Tim Apple. Shorting Apple into earnings with everything you have after you lost everything else shorting Microsoft into earnings? In the same quarter? How could you think that’s a good idea.

Also the guy was a pathetic “trading against sjw’s” idiot.

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>>16129256
>>16129361
Disney's a dangerous investment but not quite as bad as that guy is saying. Streaming is getting Cable-ified and people will not be happy. Expect kids to re-discover piracy soon.

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>>16127898
>>16127997
TMF

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going to buy COT since the Sparklette Water truck is always delivering to my neihboors

>> No.16129988

>>16129937
>Streaming is getting Cable-ified and people will not be happy. Expect kids to re-discover piracy soon.
+1

Anyone remember Grooveshark?

Modern internet has no soul

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>>16129693
>Short s&p this week?
Why? Despite what you may or may not think about the state of the economy, S&P is quite firmly dedicated to a rising trend at the moment with no indications yet that it wants to imminently take its ball and go home.

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>nobody noticed the 500-pound guy in the background of my pic

>> No.16130022

>>16130004
There appear to be two camoflaged prone hippos.

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>>16130004
FAT OPS!

>> No.16130031

>>16130022
Also I like the boots the guy in front has. Those look nice.

>> No.16130074

>>16129988
>>16129937

I loved grooveshark! I wish I could access my old playlists, there was some good shit in there.

But I do NOT expect kids to rediscover piracy. I expect them to move away from actual computers and just use mobile browsing and apps.

Streaming is about paying for ease of use and convenience. People love convenience, that's what all the amazon prime, netflix, walmart and target next day, Spotify, etc. is all about. It's why normies are happy to let facebook collect all their data and use their FB profile to log into all sorts of apps and websites. "Targeted advertising? Even easier, they know what I want before I do!"

I wouldn't bet against convenience.

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>>16129937
100% this. I stopped pirating shows once it became convenient enough to watch whatever I wanted online with a single service. $10 a month sure whatever. Then somewhere along the way every streaming service became its own "channel" with its own special series and syndications that none of the others have. These services are already being put into ISP bundles in burgerland. Upgrade to 25mbps and you get Hulu subscription with it. But then you need another $9.99 per month per service to get your Netflix, Disney+, Apple TV, Amazon Prime Video, Fakku, HBO Max because they each have shows you want to watch and usually you get a single service for a single show like GoT and you don't give a shit about anything else on HBO. It's all so tiresome, I canceled all my services and just go on tpb for everything again

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>>16130074
FURTHERMORE I am concerned about disney going into earnings, because investors are going to see the increase in capex from marketing spend. Disney may win in the streaming wars, but I'd rather have my money on the sidelines when a war is beginning. I think... I'm going to majorly trim my DIS before earnings.

Also my VIAB. fuck. Those bags... god damn. But I'm worried they might drop a bomb in their ER.

>> No.16130126

>>16130104
I hear Succession is really good and I want to check out the new Watchman because TV is seething over it.

How old are you? How many TB would you say you've torrented in your life? Or how long ago did you get into it.

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>>16130104
We should thank the good old boys and foreigners that held down the fort and kept pirating culture alive in the meantime.

>> No.16130131

Disney/Comcast/T has the upper hand in the Streaming Wars due to one thing: Content. The best part is they don't gotta create it either, just pull it outta vaults and toss it on the service. The other players to get content they gotta create it, which costs shit loads of money. If it sucks, well, the company is out a lot of cash. Also Disney/Comcast/T has film studios at there beck and call. How many studios does amazon or Apple got again? None. Also from what I've read, the current line up on the Apple services is kinda doomed from what all audience reviews I've read.

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Ill be there Ill be there I still Ill still be there

>> No.16130210

Does ATVI ER seem like a good play this week?
I feel like wow classic is going to produce massive revenue that has not been priced in yet. Call of duty had some sound fundamentals too, but that is priced in I think.
Judging by the spike that occured during the diablo 4 announcement, I think 57$ is easily breachable no?

>> No.16130232

>>16129963
I'm still holding GALT, by the way
You puny mortals can't comprehend my timeframe for investing

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>>16130232
T
M
F

>> No.16130309

Just think, if you bought 1000 worth of AMD back when it shat down to just $2 per share back in the day now you'd have over 17,000 dollars. If you put 10k into it, now you'd have 170,000. Plus whatever else you managed to stuff in the bank or S&P 500 fund while you waited.

>> No.16130329

>>16130309
There's a /g/ dd pic somewhere from late 2015 or smth. /g/ knew

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>>16130108
Your picture has temporarily restored my faith in humanity.

>> No.16130348

>>16130345
Wtf is this thing?

>> No.16130350

>>16129937
So? We have cutout the middle man. The winners are the ones getting viewers. Disney is for the whole senpai, i dont even like disney but they are anything but a bad investment

>> No.16130361

>>16130210
>Does ATVI ER seem like a good play this week?
Nevermind the fundamentals, I would be concerned that this stonk has a disturbing tendency to sell off right after earnings regardless of whether it beat or missed.

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>>16130348

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>>16130348
Goodness and purity.

>> No.16130388

>>16130309
Back in the days I won't have enough confidence on AMD would ever recover and become what they're now

>> No.16130397

>>16130309
Well yeah, ya know, that's sort of the point of trading individual stonks instead of just doing the index like the statistics quite clearly say is the winning choice overall. You want the chance to catch one of those rocket moves.

>> No.16130446

>>16130309
This makes me stay focused, knowing the big fat payday is waiting for me after starting small. Read somewhere that just $100 into a S&P 500 fund each month for 30 yrs would get you over 130,000 at the end of it. Which is pretty damn good considering you'd have that plus whatever else you managed to save along the way. I aim to do better than that. Got mine started with 1000, then when I get my baggie from AMRN, dump 10,000 into it w/1,200 added each year for 30 years. Fat Green wad shall be mine, the baggie from ANRN will be nice and fat sure, but that's just the teaser, the real green baggie comes later.

>> No.16130490

>>16130388
>Back in the days I won't have enough confidence on AMD would ever recover and become what they're now
You could have tho

>> No.16130637

>>16130490
What I mean is that, back then AMD only have a very small market share and revenue with technology that's lagging behind, repeatedly tried but failed to catch up with Intel's performance, and the different in revenue level which translate into different R&D budget made it seems like the gap is only going to further widen with Intel heading toward ultimate monopoly on the market and AMD either falling into irrelevance like other CPU makers in 1990s or being permanently trapped in low end market. What I didn't foresee is that AMD goung fabless while Intel didn't, and other decision mistake made by Intel over the past decade like their mobile processor attempts, ultimately let AMD gained back its footing against Intel.

>> No.16130689

>>16130309
There are many stock which move +-20% per week. If you are good in swing trading you only have to do this ln(17)/ln(1.2) (thanks google for solving my equation) times to achieve the same.

>> No.16130714

>>16130689
A stock that moves +/- 20% per week is not a good swing trade stock. That is in the risk territory of more of a day trading approach. 20% +/- per month is much more manageable for swing.

>> No.16130761

>>16130714
It really comes down to the definition of swing trading. You can very well time your entry intraday, make sure it goes into the right direction and just let it run for a while.

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He's 39

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>>16130637
The whole situation was the perfect storm for AMD.

Intel got complacent and made arguably the worst architecture mistake of all time with 10nm (pic related). Meanwhile, AMD could develop a competitive architecture and ride on the success of TSMC that was fueled by the money of smartphone companies like AAPL.

With Intel cancelling their 10nm desktop offerings and an unsure future of their 7nm process, AMD is going slap Intel's shit for years to come as TSMC is way ahead of Intel now, with a clear roadmap (as far as AMD is concerned, 7+nm in Q3 2020, 5nm in 2021 and 3nm in 2022/23). Intel MIGHT have their 7nm ready at the end of 2021, probably 2022 - if they don't fuck it up again. Their main problem remains their fabs, as it's their strenght and their weakness.

That said, I sold on friday to lock in my tax allowance for this year. Should I rebuy AMD tomorrow at roughly the same price? Is there still headroom to go up, with analysts increasing their 1-year target for the stock? Or should I wait for a potential drop before reentering?

>> No.16130843

>>16130761
It comes down to a risk tolerance consideration for me. If a stock is so volatile it regularly puts down 20% candles on the weekly, my exposure would be too high in the event of a stop out failed trade. If I were a burger and did not have to deal with trading fees it would be slightly better as I could swing trade those kinds of stocks with a suitably small position without being immediately behind the curve by virtue of the cost to buy and sell.

>> No.16131036

I'm thinking off selling most of my stocks and take profit and then split that money into my Target and S&P 500 funds. More bang for the dollar.

>> No.16131058

>>16130833
>Intel cancelling their 10nm desktop offering
Did they? I thought they just pushed it to 2020/2021 And 7nm in about 2023
Also as for now, Intel STILL cannot produce enough 14nm processors according to report

>> No.16131081
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OF COURSE WHY WOULDN'T THIS HAPPEN?!

After I invest 1400 in the company last week, JFC... Now the question is how to protect myself, if I should just buy fucking put protection or what.

What's next? The CEO of LMT murders a puppy with a claw hammer?

>> No.16131163

>>16131081
Consensual relationship arent legal now? I should just suicide shouldn’t I. I’ll take out some evil fuck though first

>> No.16131187

>>16131081
>buying a declining boomer fast food company with a P/E of 26

Hard to feel bad for you.

>> No.16131224
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>>16131058
There has been rumors about it the last few weeks and Intel openly denied it, but this week information has popped up that they not only killed off the abortion of a laptop chip that was on 10nm, but also quietly did so for their complete 10nm desktop line-up, as somebody analyzed the chip label codes that were cancelled. Sneaky little merchants. I'm surprised there isn't more fuzz about this, but then again, it was just a Twitter post, so it didn't catch much attention.

The more important 10nm server chips are still on track - for now.

>>16131163
Seems like a bullshit excuse to get the CEO fired, just like with Intel's CEO. Did MCD that badly lately to get him fired?

>> No.16131251

>>16131163
It says out as CEO, it doesn't say anything about prison or criminal charges.
Fucking your employees shows poor judgement.
But yes, you probably should kill yourself if that's your first reaction.
>>16131224
MCD wasn't that bad, seems like he'd been doing well for them. One quarter of underperformance isn't that wild, especially when all the QSR's except Chipotle seem to be having trouble right now.

>> No.16131321

>>16125929
My calls are fucked huh. $150 15 Nov. Thought they were good for it. Instead they crab between 129 and 131 for over a month.

>> No.16131326

>>16131081
Yeah whatever i'm buying the shit out of this whenever i get the signal.

>> No.16131351

>>16131326
What signal? High volume buy activity?

It's already pretty close to the middle band and well below all relevant SMAs

>> No.16131355

>>16131081
Is he the one who brought us the giant ipads?
If so I hope he goes broke. I always went to McD for a Burger and coffee at 11 pm and just watched the trains coming and taking off. It was a really comfy solitary nightwalk moment until those shitpads were installed. It wasn't the same after that.

>> No.16131372

>>16131351
When muh widgets say buy it nya, but basically yeah.

>> No.16131391

>>16131372
I may try to get out and get back in. Do keep me updated on your widget status. If I remember right, they actually worked out well for catching the MO bounce, even if it was a little early.

>> No.16131411

Are the futures here yet?

>> No.16131469

>>16131224
https://wccftech.com/intel-skips-10nm-desktop-cpus-7nm-desktop-launch-2022/
>The report says that Intel's 10nm supply just isn't enough to handle mass markets such as desktop at the moment which is why they will be offering 14nm replacements up until 2022
>Intel responded to the story:We continue to make great progress on 10nm, and our current roadmap of 10nm products includes desktop.
I read that as they will still release some 10nm desktop CPU, but they won't be in enough quantity for the entire lineup, so probably some models/segments will remain on 14nm until 7nm come

>> No.16131517

>>16131391
I agree the MO entry was early. I have made some slight adjustments since to wait for confirmation. That also nicely removed frequency of false signals. New strat is doing pretty good since i started using it last month. It got my in the Canadian choo choo train break outs, which is a trade i wouldn't have considered before.

The approach i have chosen is essentially the process i would take if i were to attempt to program an algo, except trades executed manually instead of auto. Time frame is daily candles, swing trades, with clearly defined rules for profit take, trailing stop, and complete exit.

>> No.16131519

>>16131469
10nm can't clock high enough (that why they go into underwhelming laptop chips) and is more expensive to produce than their 14nm offerings. That's why they're still riding the 14nm train for years to come. Besides, that info is outdated.

> wccftech

Never ever use that as source. They make shit up on the fly (that gets regularly proven false) and are Kotaku-tier clickbait.

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https://twitter.com/CNBCnow/status/1191119824946180097

>BREAKING: Under Armour is the subject of criminal and civil securities-fraud probes from the Justice Dept. and SEC over its accounting practices - Dow Jones

>> No.16131552

>>16131543
Oh! Well that ain't cool for them. Geez.

>> No.16131573

>>16131517
but the cgc trade, did you stop out? Where do you set your trailing stops, 1%?

I wish Schwab would let me have an immediate trailing stop loss implemented when I buy.

>>16131543
>Accounting misconduct
Now THERE's a short signal

>> No.16131589

>ywn fuck a horse

Why live fellow broncbros?

>> No.16131610

>>16131573
>but the cgc trade, did you stop out? Where do you set your trailing stops, 1%
Yep, failed trade. Didn't even move high enough for trailing stop to enter the picture. Initial loss prevention stop tripped and i scaled out the remainder of my position day after.

>> No.16131653

>>16131610
Oh, keep in mind when i say trailing stop i don't mean the automatic percentage based kind. I mean updating stop if needed once per day manually.

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>>16131589
I knew this guy was the same whiney incel who couldn't handle posting on more than one thread at the same time. For chrissake...

>>16131610
>initial loss prevention stop
interesting, is that just a stoploss you put in after the buy triggers?

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>>16131543
>they report earnings before the open
fuck, that's too dangerous, I cancelled this. I'm sure it ends up being a real profitable trade though, if it triggered.

>> No.16131690

>>16131589
I feel your pain

How do I long horses (sexualy)

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I really want to say fuck everything but the drug stocks and the nintendies right now...

>> No.16131745

>>16131676
>is that just a stoploss you put in after the buy triggers?
Yessum. I really don't want those to get tripped and i set pretty loose to begin with to account for reasonable drawdown after entry. But then the dude weed does the dude weed bear thing and it happens sometimes. OGI trade was the same way but at least on that one there was enough movement to allow break even exit.

>> No.16131755
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Bullish?

>> No.16131769

>>16131745
you say yessir when you talkin me boy

>> No.16131831

Another fat cat investor group added more AMRN shares. These groups own almost 50% of the stock. AMRN reports Earnings on the 5th btw. Green Baggie is a coming my way, oh yes indeed.

>> No.16131858

>>16131519
But aren't they the original site that published this rumor in recent weeks?

>> No.16131882

its a brand new high

>> No.16131893

>>16121885
Planet Fitness earnings on the 7th. I expect a beat, and the stock is low right now compared to its high in July. I'm holding a bunch of it, I might convert to calls for earnings.

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OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>> No.16131912

Well guess MCD cheapies are on the menu on monday. Grab it while you can if your into that kinda scene. Sucks for the CEO, I mean you gotta feel bad for him, some of those girls who work at MCD's are fucking hot as hell. Makes you go "wtf is a hot girl like that working at a place like this?. Same kinda applies to walmart, kroger.

>> No.16131917

>>16131899
Jesus futures are green as fuck

>> No.16131938

>>16131917
I sold my SPY calls friday for a 175% profit but fuck if I held them I could probably get 300% modnay.

>> No.16131966

>>16131755
Zoom out a ways and lets see

>> No.16131989

>>16131917
Mmmmm nice.

>>16131755
I pulled up the chart. No bullish. Snibby in control with a little bit of bear english on it.

>> No.16132079

>>16131938
My dumb ass picked up some puts thinking there was gonna be some pull back on Monday. Looks like a red day for me tomorrow.

>> No.16132093

>>16132079
Futures up 0.2% at futures open is meaningless.

Barring international/presidential events, it depends on the morning’s earnings.

>> No.16132127

Now this is an interesting thought: Since almost half the AMRN stock is owned by fat cat investor groups I wonder if any "influence" is being applied behind the scenes for the board to get the fattest buyout deal they can get. Makes since, these groups want there money quick, why wait years for the stock price to spike when the fat buyout would see them get it soon as the deal closed.

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>>16129963
You may want to consider Buffett’s recent bearishness on US treasuries...

>> No.16132265

>>16132093
Boo! Green feels better than red don't take this from me.

>> No.16132411

>>16121885
In case someone wants to watch the video, it fills me with life....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-tNkuYV4_Q

>> No.16132437

>>16132079
When is your expiry? You might be good if its a few weeks away.

>> No.16132509

>>16132411
So it’s a bad idea to copy this, right?...
If he bought the right options he would have made 50k instead of going negative

>> No.16132528

>>16132509
It almost makes me thing wveryone should do it, at least if provably poor. Legally Robinhood cant make you pay this back

>> No.16132556

Was Shkreli the bad guy?

>> No.16132557

>>16132528
I find it hard to believe that move would not haunt him for the next decade or so.

>> No.16132572

>>16132556
Did he kill himself in prison?
If he killed himself, he’s the good guy.

RIP Bud Dwyer

>> No.16132614

>>16131081
I think the play might be to buy some long term calls sometime next week.
Highly doubt many investors will alter their holdings based off this news, the action will be from short term traders.
There is a possibility this incoming CEO will make some moves as this is the opportunity of a lifetime for him.

>> No.16132640

>>16132557
Haunt him how? I’m sure he will find out soon RH cant make you pay it back and at worst he loses 2k. If he was right he could have made gorillions, and the downside is RH is forced to eat the costs. They would break federal regulations making this kid pay them money. He basically just glitched the app. It shouldnt have given him so much leverage. You eaither lose like 2k or potentially make millions. If I didn’t have shit to lose I’d try this. If any provably poor people here I would certainly consider it, maybe get a lawyer opinion, worth paying for. Imagine if this nigger did this in lci calls. Holy shit.
And if it goes sideways RH can’t do shit lmao

>> No.16132715

>>16132640
I don't know, they could sue just to ruin him even more whether it is a winnable case or not.
He can't just steal 50k and get away with it.
Or to be more accurate I hope he does not get away with it, retard needs to be taught a lesson.

>> No.16132764

>>16132556
Oh he broke the law for sure. Sentence was on the steep side.

>> No.16132828

>>16132715
I mean he knew what he was doing and looks like a dirty spic. He deserves to have to pay it all back. But the fact remakes Robinhood broke federal regulations. That is an insurmountable hurdle in court, you can’t make someone pay a loan you wrongfully gave out, especially against federal reserve board rules, and probably their own company rules. I wouldn’t even get a lawyer for myself on this kek
I have a family so I cant afford to push my luck even 1%...
Otherwise I would do this.
This is just a crazy flaw in their system. Their must be armies of zombie profiles doing this shit to them until they can fix it

>> No.16132856

>>16132640
they'll probably end up paying, i imagine you could make a compelling legal argument that robin hood would've been unable to cover an example of this bet taken on a lower value stock with higher volatility and remain solvent, meaning the entire product was a farce

>> No.16132861

So I sold AMD on friday. When do we get another dip?

>> No.16132866

>>16132856
higher value* it's been a long weekend

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Damn. Just watched shove-Akko after taking a few weeks off.

Got very bullish feel. MAYBE one pullback like August, but not concerned enough to just sit on the sidelines.

We’re all gonna make it, bulls.

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Fuck it this market is going up forever, I'm a bull now I can't take this shit

>> No.16132971

Japan is closed again? What the fuck?

Is every day a holiday in Japan?

>> No.16133044

/smg/ I need a little help with something I have been trying to figure out.
I am investing in a relatively small company that got was "awarded" 2 million dollars in a partnership with NASA.
The term awarded is tripping me up. Does that mean the 2 million will go towards their revenue this quarter and affect their EPS?
Their previous quarter revenue was 17 million so an extra 2 coming out of thin air could be a key factor in outperforming expectations again. If indeed an "award" would factor into their quarterly numbers.

>> No.16133051

>>16130175
You playing big hot dog earnings?

>> No.16133086

>>16133044
>i need help
>doesnt name the company
How about no
faggot

>> No.16133115

>>16133086
He's talking about LUNA.
Don't know why he's acting so secretive

>> No.16133118

>>16133044
What were the terms of the deal? When are the funds paid? Is this like a research grant or what?

>> No.16133119

>>16133086
I did not want to seem like a shill and the name of the company was not relevant to what I wanted to know. Cool your jets.
The company is Luna Innovations.
Now you will probably FUD me and buy some tomorrow.

>> No.16133148

>>16133118
It was announced by NASA on 9/27, that would put it this quarter if the award was paid in that time period.

https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/nasa-announces-new-tipping-point-partnerships-for-moon-and-mars-technologies

official press release, Luna is all the way at the bottom

>> No.16133179

>>16133148
Okay. I'm not sure how the accounting on something like that would work. Since the news is already out it should be factored in to expected eps.

>> No.16133220

>>16133179
Thanks for the input. Hopefully if the testing goes well it will lead to more business from NASA.
I have a rather large chunk of stock so earnings coming up on tuesday is stressing me out.

>> No.16133245

blowing up an amd warehouse
time to buy the dip

>> No.16133445
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>>16133051
They dont give forward guidance, thats not very fun
Putting my bull goggles on anyway

>> No.16133569

>>16132528
Bitch are you dumb? What makes you think people can just throw away tens of thousands without RH hunting your ass down? Read through the hundreds of page agreement you agreed to when making an account and I swear you'll find something related to this topic.
But just because you said this honestly believing what you yourself said, just buy 100k tomorrow and tell us how it went a few months from now, if you're alive after you realize borrowed money means borrowed that is.. ugh.. you fucking people man, you're either dumb apes or drunk as fuck

>> No.16133612

>>16133569
So you are allowed to hand out big ass loans to people and then own them.
>inb4 4chan joke about jews
But seriously, he had 2k, RH had no business giving him 10s of thousands to play with

>> No.16133623

If I got this right it sounds like investing for growth and later buying for dividend income is faster than dividend reinvesting.

>> No.16133678

>>16129610
Capitalism leads to exploitative labor practices, which affect marginalized groups disproportionately.

>> No.16133696

>>16133678
>Capitalism leads to exploitative labor practices, which affect marginalized groups disproportionately.
And that’s, in and of itself, a bad thing?
And socialism(any kind humans have used) does the same thing btw

>> No.16133760

>>16133623
That theory assumes you are successful in your non dividend investments.

>> No.16133764

>>16133696
>>16133678
At least capitalism exploits useless people whereas socialist states exploit the hard workers.

>> No.16133840

Dumb question in an not-entirely-fitting thread - does it ever make sense to ""time"" dumping a lump sum of money into an index/target date kind of investment or should you always throw it in ASAP regardless of how well it's currently performing

>> No.16133867

So guys I inherited about $5m. I'm thinking of creating a long/short portfolio of around 15-20 stocks in high quality businesses using a top-down value investing approach. Should I do this or buy VTSAX?

>> No.16133876

>>16133840
If you put it all in and the market dumps 20% what will you do?

>> No.16133889

>>16133867
all in bitcoin

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>>16133044
>>16133119
>>16133148
>>16133220
>Does that mean the 2 million will go towards their revenue this quarter and affect their EPS?
The revenue will not be booked this quarter. Long term contracts like this earn revenue by the percentage of completion method. You can treat the revenue as equal parts over 36 months for dcf, but that is not how it will be in the financial statements.

>> No.16133908

>>16133840
For a large some of money, dividing it over months of deposits is the safe way to not lose 30% in a freak accident.

>> No.16133915

>>16133840
>does it ever make sense to ""time"" dumping a lump sum of money into an index/target date kind of investment
Yes. However, you can do the prescribed strategy for the index long hold and slowly average you way in over the course of a year or something and wind up in a similar cost average in time anyway.

>>16133867
>5 milly
Index. Hold. Collect the dividends, be comfy. Also congratulations. No reason to try be a trader with that kind of money. If you like trading for the fun of it, set aside $100k worth of that for cool guy trading excitement. Keep the remaining 4.9m in the index.

>> No.16133935
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16133935

I'm pretty sure I'm going to take a break. This is about a week old, I've already withdrawn 27K from this total the other day. I feel a great sense of redemption after having had gotten my account as low as ~10,600 in the slaughter last December. I will be eternally grateful to Mallinckrodt for making me some damned good money.

>> No.16133956

>>16133915
That is good advice. I've backtested my strategy and it seems to beat the index but stockpicking is inherently a risky enterprise. I'll set aside a few percent for trading and the rest goes into VTI.

>> No.16133980

>>16133935
Nicely done, anon! Enjoy the break.

>> No.16133989

>>16133905
Alternatively they can use the milestone method, which is in the article. But the point is it won't be earned revenue immediately.

>> No.16133999

>>16133840
If it's a large sum then do a comb of fixed income (bond latter) and gradual dumping like monthly or yearly.

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>>16133980

Thank you. I would also like to extend my condolences to all my fellow fools who got roped into LTBR through the last few years, some of whom may have been influenced by my suggestion. That company should be salted and Seth Grae turned into some well-endowed homosexual's personal fingerpuppet.

Surprised aluminum unrelated.

>> No.16134011

>be kind of stupid
>401k is 100% in stonks
>recession fears rising

Do I get out now into bonds? Or just ride it to the bottom?

>> No.16134027

>>16134011
Target fund or just mimic target fund.

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>>16133935
>I'm pretty sure I'm going to take a break.
nobody ever takes..

>> No.16134148

Wonder how the market would react to McDonalds CEO being fired

If I ""understand"" the market correctly, it would actually make it go up because... reasons

>> No.16134182

>>16134148
Interesting. It’s possible that, because this is the whole reason MCD was selling off last week, it can bottom now that it’s out, and MCD investors see that things weren’t so bad after all.

I’m not so sure though, setting some limit orders just in case it sells off insanely hard and I can grab some weird downward spikes.

It’s finally my chance to be a foodchad...

>> No.16134211

Alright reddit what’s the play tomorrow what’s hot?? Talk to me y’all Let’s go get this money!

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>>16134116
see now you CAN take a break. What you cannot do is leave.

>>16134148
i figure it'll gap down a bit, bulls will do a big slurp, day traders will jump ship off that move, then it'll settle. Or something. It will definitely do SOMETHING in some kind of way.

>> No.16134283

>>16134211
Its meme week
AMRN
LCI
IIPR
EVFM
MAXR
ROKU
ZTS
DIS
IVR
FSLY
OSTK
KRO
REFR
GNLN
LPTX
WKHS

>> No.16134296

>>16134283
ODP too
Not sure its much of a meme though, my call are doing well

>> No.16134356

>>16134283
>LPTX
Really? Shit...

I wonder if I should flip my REFR call, the ceo sounds like kind of a failure shill, and I’m not sure if the company is actually producing.

GOLD reports too, I’m a little concern.

Fuck though I really should be trimming Disney...

>> No.16134405

>>16134283
Next week is meme week 2.0
ACB
GALT
DF
AMR
SNSS
TLRY
WMT

>> No.16134412

SunRun getting coverage on NPR related to the PCG blackouts.

Tesla powerwalls also got a mention.

>> No.16134812

MCY might make a good rebound soon...

>> No.16134853

>>16133678
And?

>> No.16134883

>>16133840
Holy fuck, Anon?
Are you a degenerate?
Time in the market, my son. TIME in the market.
Don't be a retard. 2% gain a year is the best you can hope for. Anything else is pure gambling and mommy will be angry.

>> No.16134892

>>16134283
Will Dec be too late to buy $GALT?

>> No.16134907

>>16133840
Not really. Best you can do is the moment you decide to invest, wait for a red day, slap 75$ into it, and then tomorrow at opening, see if the pre market is red or green. Decide if you want to try your luck at the first hour and see if you can scrape a third of a percent more value out of the initial investment. Any longer than that you're probably not getting a much better shot at a good price, because you can't be certain that it's gonna go down anytime soon.

>> No.16134915

>>16134907
*75% sorry

>> No.16135136

>>16135130
>>16135130
>>16135130

>>16135130
>>16135130
>>16135130

New Thread

>>16135130
>>16135130
>>16135130

Page 9 thread death approaching

>>16135130
>>16135130
>>16135130

>> No.16135279

>>16133935
“Break” right, sure. Get it together, splash water on your face, you know whatever it takes. Now stop kidding us along with yourself. There’s only one way out and that’s losing it all.