[ 3 / biz / cgl / ck / diy / fa / ic / jp / lit / sci / vr / vt ] [ index / top / reports ] [ become a patron ] [ status ]
2023-11: Warosu is now out of extended maintenance.

/biz/ - Business & Finance


View post   

File: 33 KB, 490x586, 473.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
15989134 No.15989134 [Reply] [Original]

And why are the people shilling for it so evangelical about it even though it never worked for them?

>> No.15989158

>>15989134
How to go to heaven when you die:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDEBz25lGdY

>> No.15989159

>>15989134
Self improvement does work, you just have to be alone with your own thoughts solving your own immediate problems without input from shills who want to exploit the fact that you feel inadequate and hopeless by selling you meme dopamine hits.

>> No.15989171

Anon go look at a picture of a periodic function. Sin, cos, whatever. This is life. Self improvement does work, but it's hard to tell sometimes because of life's ups and downs.

>> No.15989173

>>15989159
I already did that. It doesn't work.

>> No.15989182

>>15989173
It's helped for me, no larp. What is your difficulty right now anon?

>> No.15989187

>>15989134
>improving doesn't make you better
W H A T

>> No.15989192

>>15989182
Pretty sure you're on 4chan in a depression thread. It didn't work for you I'm afraid.

>> No.15989198

>>15989171
And if you zoom out enough, you'll find it's a linear slope downwards.

>> No.15989207

>>15989192
oh god stfu, you fucking newfag, Even after you make it you will still be here

>> No.15989214

>>15989207
This. Biz is the best place for crypto discussion (and insider info)

>> No.15989215
File: 105 KB, 301x301, 1571186223574.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
15989215

>>15989192
>>15989198
>>15989173
>>15989134
yea idk looks like it's hopeless for you anon might as well kill yourself i guess

>> No.15989235

>>15989207
>doesn't know we had a huge decline in posters after lots made it in 2017
>calls others newfags

>> No.15989240

>>15989192
>Pretty sure you're on 4chan in a depression thread. It didn't work for you I'm afraid.

You want to discuss how /biz/ can profit from your eventual suicide then?

I'm thinking you take out a big life insurance policy that pays out into a crypto we all hold, what do you think?

>> No.15989245

>>15989215
Nah, I'll just let the self help faggots kill themselves first.

>> No.15989251

most of it promotes the idea that being unhappy in itself is pathological but the reality is it is not pathological to be unhappy when in a bad situation.

Are you in a bad situation though? considering there's never been people that have had to negotiate wages in a unit of account that loses value exponentially by design, yes.
but then I've seen people on here that are unhappy after becoming financially free (although I can't understand that).

>> No.15989253

>>15989240
Why not yours?

>> No.15989254

>>15989215
>might as well kill yourself i guess
>>15989240
What do you think of my plan to profit from this anons suicide?

>> No.15989260

because you have no concept of "improvement"

>> No.15989264
File: 147 KB, 750x470, Jimmy-Saville.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
15989264

>>15989245
>I'll just let the self help faggots kill themselves first.
Jimmy liked hating on people too...
your gonna be just like him right?
KYS immediately

>> No.15989269
File: 83 KB, 645x614, 1567853479167.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
15989269

>>15989253
>Why not yours?
Cos I'm not a depressed faggot like you of course!
geez what a brainlet.
depression and stupid!

>> No.15989271

>>15989260
Interesting, you have total knowledge and insight into my life and what I did to self improve myself? Go on, humor me.

>> No.15989288

>>15989134
What the hell are you trying to get out of self improvement? I improve myself because I want to live a long and healthy life, it isn't some magic pill to solve all your problems

>> No.15989291

>>15989269
>I'm not depressed
>posts in a depression thread
>gets angry and insecure
Never mind about your suicide, I don't care when low IQ people die.

>> No.15989301

>>15989288
>it isn't some magic pill to solve all your problems
You might want to tell that to all the shillers.

>> No.15989303

>>15989134
>>15989271
> I failed, therefore everyone else fails too and self improvement is utter bullshit

Nice logic got going on there. Keep up the good work.

>> No.15989325

>>15989303
So how come it hasn't worked for you?

>> No.15989388

>>15989325
Because I'm a fucking spineless cunt, who has not yet found the right way to improve my discipline. Nobody's saying there's only one way to self improvement, and no-one sure as fuck has ever said the road would be easy or short and straight. But my failures to follow through do not negate the facts that whenever I do try to better myself, it usually works.

>> No.15989439

>>15989388
>I've never actually done self improvement for real, but I just know it works guys :^)
You're exactly the type of faggot this thread is aimed against. I literally did all the work already, everyday a hopeless nightmare as I pressed onwards, and some shitstain such as yourself has the temerity to lecture me on what does or doesn't work, even though you don't have a fucking clue what you're talking about?

>> No.15989457
File: 292 KB, 334x506, 1571366082948.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
15989457

>>15989240
>>15989254
As long as it's secured VIA a link smart contract sounds like a solid plan to me anon

>> No.15989458

>>15989134
From my experience most information in self improvement books are worthless.

True self improvement will only come from the self discoveries and hard lessons learned in the heat of the batte. Because only then, will you find what's practical and actually works.

>> No.15989467

>>15989158
Now these faggot baptists are shilling on /biz/ too? Allowing Martin Luther to live was a mistake.

>> No.15989470

its fapping for the soul

>> No.15989474

>>15989458
There are only two real rules I've found to be helpful in any fashion when it comes to self improvement is incredibly simple.

The first is the obvious 80/20 rule. 80% of your gains NO MATTER WHAT IT'S IN are from only 20% of the effort you put in.

The second is that the hardest part is always the first step; simply showing up is a significant majority of the battle. You could say showing up is that 20% to t he 80% gain if you will.

Pardon

My

Reddit

Spacing

In any case, the most difficult part in anything and the part that yields the most results is the first initial step, everything after that is easy. Whatever a person needs to do to convince themselves to take the first step is really all you need to improve yourself

>> No.15989546

>>15989474
Nope, not only did I show up, I stuck with it for years. It didn't work. It hasn't worked for you either.

>> No.15989554

>>15989388
What are you even trying to improve?

>> No.15989571

>>15989439
Lol this. self-improvement faggots are just clueless retards parroting common sense that seems right but is actually more complicated

>> No.15989590

>>15989546
>Everybody is just like me
Pretty delusional, I haven't really bothered reading any of your demoralization posts though because it's obvious you're purposefully trying to not improve anything.

You have to actually want to improve yourself before you actually do. And yes, I've been getting in pretty good shape, up over 250% on my investments, and am going to be taking a certification exam soon.

You ARE right that most self improvement bullshit is meaningless platitudes though, the real change only comes if you reach some sort of epiphany about your situation that is strong enough to have an emotional impact on yourself long term.

>> No.15989626

>>15989457
>As long as it's secured VIA a link smart contract sounds like a solid plan to me anon
kek!

>> No.15989636

>>15989590
>facts are demoralization
You kinda sound like a faggot. You did some working out and your crypto went up like everyone else's did? Wow, congratufuckulations; maybe you'll stop posting in a depression thread on 4chan and actually get started living that amazing life of yours. But you won't, because you're a depressed faggot, and you're too much of a pussy to admit you're one.

>> No.15989659
File: 336 KB, 1386x978, 1568008448647.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
15989659

>>15989636
when your suicide occurs then lambo for me...
what method are you going to choose?
maybe jumping off a bridge will be easy enough for a brainlet like you to do!

>> No.15989671
File: 197 KB, 2500x1645, 1571439572618.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
15989671

>>15989192
Ah, how could I have let myself believe that your thread was sincere.

>> No.15989674

>>15989659
Sorry, I'm only accepting suicides from self help shillers once they realize their coping mechanism is a fraud.

>> No.15989680

>>15989671
How is that not "sincere"? Go on, humor me.

>> No.15989689
File: 3 KB, 143x132, 1568655063311.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
15989689

>>15989674
>I'm only accepting suicides
your not accepting anything other than your miserable lot in life faggot...
Hurry up and die so I can profit!
Be useful for once in your life

>> No.15989711

>>15989689
Holy shit that projection. Keep getting triggered in a depression thread though, it's highly indicative of someone successful in life.

>> No.15989747

>>15989439
But I do. As I stated, when I do try to better myself, it works. Only thing I really lack anymore is the ability to stick to it, which is what I'm trying to improve now. Granted, I have no way of knowing whether or not improvement is a thing that works for everyone, but it sure as hell isn't total bull just because the best part of you got shot on the sheets that one time two siblings had sex.


>>15989554
Procrastrination mainly. Too fucking lazy and undisciplined to get things done properly and in time. Had lots of other problems too, but those are not as acute anymore after I started improving myself. I usually take a step or two back due to my lack of discipline, but overall my life has improved significantly from what it was. Oh yeah, could give up smoking too.

>> No.15989862

If being lazy counted as self-improvement everybody would do it. If everybody was lazy we'd have gone extinct in the sea. It's just evolution.
And yes, people preach motivating trash because it makes them feel better about themselves - ignoring those just doing it for money.
t. high level self-improver

>> No.15989873

>>15989747
You seem confused. Anybody can go do something for a bit and think it's doing wonders for them. Look at lifting, everyone gets beginner gains the first couple of weeks and thinks they're doing great, but it's another thing entirely to stick with it for years like I did. The other factor is the placebo effect where you feel something is working, but it's not actually doing anything at all. Ask yourself why self help books are sold next to the "spirituality" section instead of their methods being in peer reviewed journals?

>> No.15990258

>>15989134
Because every path and fate is predetermined. If you, one day, do manage to improve though, then that only means the path was your preprogrammed path all along. You will never be able to improve if it isn't the chosen path. That's the sad truth. You can think whatever you want of this information but it's the truth and all bad and good things that happen, happen. There is no freedom. The universe is the biggest slave factory. If you think you could've done something differently, even the thought was preprogrammed

>> No.15991220

>>15990258
Your logic is flawerd.
You cannot use determinism to distance yourself from caring about what you do and don't do, for the simple reason that you, the observer himself, is part of the deterministic framework. You can't judge it from outside. That is why you care about your choices - the caring itself is deterministic. Thus there is no point in making an appeal to our lack of freedom: you are categorically incapable of mentally adhering to the revealation you just preached.
t. not a pseud

>> No.15991474
File: 216 KB, 892x758, supreme gentleman.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
15991474

>>15989134

Self-improvement doesn't work when you work against the basic traits of your own nature. Something inside you then reverses every relevant achievement you make. You will look like someone who is trying to be someone else and appear fake and false. If your attempt is bad enough you will end up worse than you started.

Also, illusions that fuel your ego are addictive.

>> No.15991836

>>15990258
i'm not saying determinism isn't reality, i often think it is, but losers use it as an excuse to continue being losers. i know that much for certain.