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he bought guns with debt. lost. lucky no debt repayment. end of story

>>15949671
Hitler was a person that in times past would have been worshiped as a messiah. /pol/acks sitting and waiting for 'the next Hitler' will probably be waiting in the next life too because a person like that only comes once in a very very long time.

A lot of what Hitler did was personal and not just on paper. If you can convince a nation of people to be highly productive the economy will naturally follow suit. Hitler gave people hope which manifested itself into energy, which in time becomes economic prosperity.

Please provide more details

>>15949878
Just check it and thank me later

https://pastebin.com/bV75uAQf

>>15949671
He told the people Germany owed money to to fuck off, made a new currency backed by work and then put people to work making houses, factories, machinery, bombs, tanks, guns and all the other good stuff a war machine needs.

The money we use today isn't real. Its controlled by a single group who get as much of it as they want while everyone else has to work, swindle, deal or beg for enough to exist within the system.

>>15949878
Imagine worshiping a man, lmao. How fucking feeble minded do you have to be.

because hitler showed the middle finger to kikes and made germany great...

>>15949671
achieved power through socialist arguments because people become tribalisitc when poor.
he pumped the economy with debt they couldn't afford then he conquered other countries to expand his economy. It's the same business model every tyrant adopts.

it's like if you're broke and you max out your credit and pay day loans to pay for a bank robbery, then you get cocky and try two banks at once, in winter.

>>15949878
>/pol/acks sitting and waiting for 'the next Hitler' will probably be waiting in the next life too because a person like that only comes once in a very very long time.
bizraelis, however, need not wait.

>>15950213
he didnt get cocky, his allies were retarded and forced him to a shitty position

for example japan was specifically instructed not to invade US as it wouldn't have been a good time, but pearl harbour happened anyway

I have a small suspicion that pearl harbour was their version of 9-11, it gave US an excuse to start a war

>>15949671
Hitler used stolen jewish gold to finance his war machine. do you have access to a lot of jewish gold?

Germany was a shit tier engineering country and has the biggest industrial and economical issues during ww2 that arguably made them lost the war

literally the only good contribution from them was rockets

>>15950355
Except that the Russians and Americans were fighting over who would get which German scientists/engineers after the war and von braun defected to America and led NASA to the moon? Also enigma was pretty dope. As was the schwerer gustav. And they did manage to invent homing torpedoes.

>>15950213
>he pumped the economy with debt
More like the opposite.. Germany had a massive debt after WW1, When the Nazis took over they began delaying payments of the debt and defaulting.

I'm not sure why Germany managed to rise so quickly, in large part i think it was do to the under achievements of Germany in the 20s. Like a ketchup effect where nothing comes out for a while and then it suddenly all burst out. If this is to be the case then the policies of the Nazi party wouldn't be the cause behind it, perhaps it would be the trigger though.

>>15949671
I suspect being a NEET in Nazi Germany was not really a viable option, for a start. Solve the NEET problem, invade Poland, leave Russia the fuck alone = all good, on-time trainz and great gainz will be yours

>>15950402

yeah there is excellence everywhere and i tell you those guys where excellent but germany as a whole was mediocre trash decisions over and over again, like see the tiger how it was designed and decided and it's just political trash about porsche and it's almost anime like how childish the decisions were, the transmissions were literally high school physics mistakes holy shit

>>15950258
desu just as surprising it must have seen that Germany managed to conquer France in two months time. Then the Soviet's will to continue fighting and their actual fighting capability was equally surprising.
I don't think you can blame Hitler from invading the Soviet, they had just sent the majority of their officers to gulag camps in Siberia and a war between them seemed inevitable - so better now than later.

Even in hindsight it all seems very confusing, i think this is related to the greater narrative of the "evilness" and the cold war.

>>15950402
The scientists and the engineers were brilliant but the managers and politicians were fucking retards.

>>15950213
You obviously have 0 idea about history, brainlet.
>he pumped the economy with debt
False, because in the NS model national debt didn't even exist, at least not in the way it exists in the modern economy. The produced bonds people bought with Mark backed by labor and a basket of goods and commodities. So essentially the "debt" was a promise of labor optimization and more goods.

>then he conquered other countries to expand his economy.
Germany economy was at the top in 1937, before any of the wars. Also Hitler didn't conquer anyone, the initial operation in Poland was return of the historically German Prussia to Germany and Historically Russian eastern Poland to Russia, parts that were arbitrarily declared independent 20 years only prior. Britain and France declared war on Germany and invaded. Everything else was self-defense.

>every tyrant adopts.
Democratically elected, grassroots, 92% support in every poll until 1944.

>>15950457
The Russians were better engineers than the Americans. Russians actually made good tanks and fighters at the end of the war. The US really had nothing to show besides the P-51 and B-17. The M4 was atrocious

>>15950355
taking poland, belgium and france was entirely down to technology.
but it wasn't sustainable. It was like walking into a police station with an rpg and claiming victory because you got of a few shots before anyone got their shit together.

>>15950411
of course they weren't paying their dues they were planing on going to war. The economic miracle was all from debt, they were printing money and issuing promissary notes in exchange for real work. If they hadn't gone to war the value would've evaporated but they conquered to expand their economy and reduce the debt to economy ratio and financially repress other nations.
This is always the choice of tyrants, pump your economy with debt to gain military advantage over another nation and then conquer them to pay your debt and more. There was only domestic support for this tyranny in germany because they were all so poor. It's why this website is covered in shills trying to make people socialists

>>15950524
>bonds aren't debt
you're the brainlet
>germany economy was top
germany's economy was based on nothing but the delusion it's debt was worth something. The plan was always to go to war to steal other nations wealth.
It's the same thing as the usd today, the us military creates demand for it by extorting the rest of the world to only buy oil in usd
>Democratically elected, grassroots, 92% support in every poll until 1944.
socialism is tyranny.
people become susceptible to tyranny when they are poor that is why shills are trying to make americans blame social collectives or ethnic collectives for their problems when the reality is they have been made poor by currency debasement.

>>15950457
>>15950484
A lot of the physical flaws in the machinery during the was a product of excessive use of slave labour, nobody wants to build weapons for the side oppressing them - so yeah i guess you can put that on the politicians I can argue with that but the design work itself was pretty spot-on.

Then there was the rate of soldier turnover and the different sized demographic pools the Russians had to pull from. The russians could trade 20-something young russians for one young German and replace them both, knowing full well the german demographics would mean they would be replacing their soldiers with older and older men. Older people upkeep machinery worse and die more.

I don't know, I have trouble saying the Germans lost out of stupidity. There's a lot they did wrong but I don't think they you can look at their overall model and call what they did a product of blind stupidity.

>>15950573
*could trade two 20-something young Russians

>>15950524
>backed by labor and a basket of goods and commodities

holy shit my sides, what a fucking clown currency. Imagine trying to do that today

>m-muh linky is worth 1 Work and Service, sirs

get fucked. What a retard Hitler was.

>>15950570
>based on nothing but the delusion it's debt was worth something.
The debt was actually miniscule. It's economy was based on innovation and production. Most of the modern tech was invented in Hitler's Germany. Including rockets, hybrid cars, helicopters, jets etc.

>The plan was always to go to war to steal other nations wealth.
Source: your jewish ass.

>socialism is tyranny.
Sooooo, democracy is tyranny? And freedom is slavery, right? Hook-nosed kike confirmed.

>>15950600
And modern fiat is backed by what exactly?
>my linky is worth uhhhh.... nothing?

>>15950612
they were deficit spending debt was all they had ffs.

go live in china you socialist.
Imagine actually falling victim to national socialist propaganda.
https://youtu.be/bX3EZCVj2XA

>>15950600
>muh bitcoin is worth 300 computing hours and 2 antminers
Hitler invented proof of work. Deal with it.

>>15950657
>Trying to push NatSoc together with communism.
>Hitler was totally communist guys!
>that's why he killed communists!
So that's the new kike tactic, Shlomo?

>they were deficit spending debt was all they had ffs.

Source:your ass.

>>15950672
you are so vulnerable to propaganda you don't even know the National Socialist German Workers' Party was socialist

>deficit spending
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Nazi_Germany

>>15950699
National-Socialist has nothing to do with socialism. It's controlled capitalism based on fascistic model. You have literally no idea about history, politics or economics.

>>15950712
it is socialism organised by ethnic collective instead of socialism organised by social collective.

You don't like the constitution of the united states, go and live in china you socialist

>>15949671
20 posts about germany, hitler, currency debasement, debt and WWII and the thread hasn't even devolved into a tinfoil jews-ruin-everything thread yet. Kind of proud of you, /biz/.

>>15950796
don't worry comrade, the ministry of state security will be here momentarily to astroturf support for national socialism to continue the effort of fomenting a socialist revolution in the USA

watch some of richard werner's presentations and pay attention to the part about Japan post WW-II, which at the time was completely destitute, and had its industrial capacity eliminated, but which soon became a world leading industrial power

>>15950732
Socialism implies wealth redistribution through heavy taxation. National Socialism didn't have this. The maximum income tax wasn't even percentage, it was a fixed sum. Starting with 20.000RM income you had to pay 3100RM and got 350RM discount for every child.

>>15950796
That's because literally everyone here knows that jews ruin everything and pathologically subvert nations.

>>15950796

>>15950834
socialism is the subversion of individual rights to a social collective.

In nazi germany a human being is unit of resource to be yielded to the benefit of some arbitrary, subjective definition of race. You own and control nothing that is not deemed by a central power to be in favor of the collective goal.

If you are a socialist just admit it and then fuck off to a socialist country.

>>15950879
this, it's a give on /biz/ since we've read about monetary history

>>15949671
You're not a brainlet, cuz it didn't work in the real world.

>>15950919
Yeah why work towards something greater than yourself when you can work for nothing and recieve nothing as a consumer?

>>15950834
Get in and thank me later

https://pastebin.com/gCmukh4y

It didn't work really. He just got into massive debt and used the money to invade other countries hoping it would pay off, kind of like gambling but with a whole country's military.

>>15950940
To live Free is Greatness.

We have had to debase ourselves to fight you socialists for a 100 years. However that debasement is the socialists end goal.

Now the solution exists, the last pillar of socialism was made redundant in 2009 when man made market governed currency was invented.

So the only thing you can do now is try and blow the whole world up or face the inevitable attrition of your power structures as more and more people wake up to the fact there is no reason not to live free other than some pathological parasites want power over others for the sake of it.

>>15950988
The American way is superior, but you're probably a worthless boomer civic nationalist. You're a fucking fag in your own way

>>15950919
>socialism is the subversion of individual rights to a social collective.
Lolno, brainlet. By that logic Romans were socialists, Russian empire was socialist, most monarchies were socialist and even old Greek were socialists. Socrates and Cicero biggest socialists of them all.
In fact, by that logic, Romans were ultra socialist, because sacrificing one's life for Rome was the highest virtue and selfishness was the worst vice.

Individualism is a modern invention, meant to keep the people divided and seed corruption.

>>15951000
He's more than likely a civic nationalist which means he's totally abandoned the original ideas of the United States. Boomers are fucking retards who think they are special when most of them are dunning kreuger poster boys, the original snowflake generation. Most of those fat fucks would hate the Founding Fathers if they were alive today. Boomers are all essentially DC Loyalists, fucking fags

>>15951000
you've already established you're a national socialist

go live in china so you can give away your ability to own land so you have to work your whole life to the benefit of the ccp

>>15951000
>meant to keep the people divided

How is it different from nationalism in that regard? Nationalism divides people too, in weaker and stronger countries, so individualism is its logical end result, dividing society between the strong and the weak.

>>15951019
I'm not a civic nationalist. I believe in the ideals of freedom the USA constitution is a great work towards the establishment of freedom
as is the magna carta
as is the bitcoin whitepaper

>>15951048
So can anyone other than White men be US Citizens? Yes or no

>>15950402
The only useful stuff was rocket science and jet aerodynamics(swept wings).
Everything else was already experimented by Slavs and Burgers(like homing missiles/torpedoes), or extremely autistic and unnecessary like Schwerer Gustav

>>15951036
>in weaker and stronger countries
That's the whole point. Other countries are your rivals. You only care about your people. Your own people you have common bond with. Something Socrates called "filia".
Globalism and world policing is a globalist imperialist concept.
>>15951048
>USA constitution
It was in fact originally was pretty nationalistic and racist. It even said that only a "free white person" could become a citizen. Are you against the original constitution and the principles of the founding fathers?

>magna carta
I bet you didn't even read magna carta, because it's collectivist as fuck.

>>15950568
>The M4 was atrocious
blurft dumy gukewr

>>15951111
checked

>>15951068
race is not a useful variable in the design of society.

the existence of differences across genetic collectives of humans is not the reason the federal reserve exists.

Unfortunately the existence of ethnic collectives is evidently a good way to make poltards like you vote for socialist politics.

>>15951107
maybe you should read how I said: great work towards the establishment of freedom not perfect works of freedom

>>15951146
>great work towards the establishment of freedom not perfect works of freedom
found the nigger

>>15951146
Yeah, just as I thought. Civic nationalist boomer who doesn't know what the fuck he is talking about, you would probably call the Founding Fathers socialist if they were alive today. Fucking worthless faggot

>>15951111
He's right. It doesn't even have an autoloader. You have to load it with your hands like in 1930s.
Now that I think about it, it's generally built like a tank from 1930 with a few electronic gimmics on top.
>top speed only 30mph
>can't shoot while driving
>no autoloader
>reactive armor only covers the sides partially
>no active countermeasures
>no gyroscopic barrel stabilizer

I present you Tiger II from 1943
>improvements included stabilised sights, a stabilised main gun, an automatic ammunition feed, a Carl Zeiss AG stereoscopic rangefinder, heated crew compartment, stowage for an additional 12 rounds, and an overpressure & air filtration system to protect against poison gas.

>>15950672
NatSoc and Communism is basically the same in the core except NatSoc may have an autistic manlet vegan leader who believes his race is master race(while getting rekt by “untermensch” slavs in the rnd).
Hitler killed Commies because Commies were puppets of the Soviet Union. Not because

>>15951146
>ork towards the establishment of freedom not perfect works of freedom
IT WASN'T REAL FREEDOM! REAL FREEDOM WASN'T TRIED!

>>15950600
>t.

>>15951163
I'm not a civic nationalist and I would not call the founding fathers socialist.

>>15951177
why are you still here hypocritically using property rights? move to china and subvert your existence to a collective goal you national socialist

>>15951107
I see you didn't address the second part of my post. If stronger collectives should prevail over weaker ones, then who's to say that stronger individuals shouldn't prevail on weaker ones too? Individualism is the logical end result of centuries of wars between countries. You're outdated and so is your ideology.

Fuck off /pol/ no one cares about the 40s

>>15951200
For the same reason you don't prevail over your family. For the same reason your parents raise you and you help your brother if he's down.
Your nation is your continuation, just like your family.

>>15951168
o fuggg what if they put a single Tiger 1v20 with Abrams+30 T-90A, could it win? :DDDD

>>15951216
I don't feel that way about my nation, sorry. I don't feel obligated to help it out the same way I would help out my relatives and it hasn't helped me in the same way my relatives did.

>>15951226
Realistically speaking, if you put a modern gun on a Tiger II it could outmaneuver and rape a few M4s.

>>15951239
That's because your nation is divided by individualism, immigration and multiculturalism.
When everyone has the same ethnicity as you, same religion as you, same culture as you and your ancestors go way back together and you can see your children make great things together in the future you would feel it. It's the common bond the old philosophers spoke about and that's completely lost in the west today.

>>15950355
They invented the automobile. That's a nice check in teh engineering contribution column alongside rockets.

>>15951216
>would support the debasement of his families wages to maximize their productivity towards the collective goal
>would support property rights being conditional to the validation of the arbiter of the collective goal
>would support redistribution of his wealth to the collective via taxes
>would support genocide
>would support concentration camps
>would support eugenics and state backed organ harvesting

have you moved to china yet you socialist? you must be using a vpn

>>15951262
You're full of shit. Russian paesants were serfs toiling for their feudal lords even though they weren't multicultural at all. I look at the past and all I can see are people lording over other people, no matter the era and no matter how nationalists and communists alike sugarcoat it.

>mfw none of you fucking retards know adolf was bankrolled by many rich americans, many of the same ones who were trying to make a coup against roosevelt

>>15951273
You are confusing nationalism with communism. That said, China will probably rule the world by 2040,because the west is dying and China is growing increasingly nationalistic. See all these western corporations and media outlets bend the knee to China on Hong Kong. These are the first signs, they don't see any future in the western markets.

>>15951298
you are a national socialist that means you
>would support the debasement of his families wages to maximize their productivity towards the collective goal
>would support property rights being conditional to the validation of the arbiter of the collective goal
>would support redistribution of his wealth to the collective via taxes
>would support genocide
>would support concentration camps
>would support eugenics and state backed organ harvesting

move to a socialist country, stop being a hypocrite.

>>15951292
>american socialists exist
changes nothing

>>15950600
>backing a currency with thin air
Jewish FIAT is a retarded ponzi scheme, same for muh shiny rocks. Hitler saw this and acted accordingly.

>>15950657
Imagine falling victim to a jewish ponzi scheme.

>>15950662
This.

>>15950699
>wikipedia
>national socialism is socialism
How does it feel to have room temperature IQ?

>>15950732
Go die for Israel.

>>15950919
>individual rights
Includes homosexuality, transgenderism and soon pedophilia. Just as your rabbi promised you.

>>15951024
Go die for Israel.

>>15951111
Piece of shit tommy cooker that was pierced by rubber bullets and didn't scratch Tigers paint until leafs put a AT gun sideways into it because it was so shitty designed.
There's your M4, both russian and german tanks were superior by far.

>>15951146
>race isnt and issue
Oh in that case fuck off to Detroit you good fucking goy.

>>15951172
Communism and capitalism, two sides of the same shekel. Natsoc is the third way.

>>15951273
>would support the debasement of his families wages to maximize their productivity towards the collective goal
You already do. That's the goal of capitalism.
>would support property rights being conditional to the validation of the arbiter of the collective goal
Leeches don't deserve anything.
>would support redistribution of his wealth to the collective via taxes
So you aren't paying your taxes, don't want infrastructure or military?
>would support genocide
t. Invades Irak
>would support concentration camps
Guantanamo.
>would support eugenics and state backed organ harvesting
Eugenics yes.
>have you moved to china yet you socialist?
Have you moved to Israel yet you goy?

>>15951168
Tiger 2's werent autoloaded stfu

>>15949671
I miss him so fucking much bros, it hurts.

>>15951318
>would support the debasement of his families wages to maximize their productivity towards the collective goal
>would support property rights being conditional to the validation of the arbiter of the collective goal
>would support redistribution of his wealth to the collective via taxes
>would support genocide
>would support concentration camps
>would support eugenics and state backed organ harvesting
None of that belongs to NatSoc or ever happened.

>>15951273
>lol
>lol
>lol
>sure, if necessary
>no, just deport them and those who don't go get liquidated
>lol

Zzzz

>>15951331
>You already do. That's the goal of capitalism.
no I don't. I think it is the most critical evil. Debasement is unconstitutional and its only being done to fight you socialists
Capitalism means ownership of capital by individuals not the state. It is not compatible with debasement as central bank debasements aims to maximise by redistributing wealth from citizens to the collective. Which is what you advocate for not me.
and you didn't deny you want debasement.

>Israel
Israel is practically the state you desire, and ethnic nationalist state. An good alternative to china for you

>>15950355
>he does not know

>>15951318
>>15951273
>>15950662
>>15950657

>>15950662
Sorry, This guy is based and not a jew

Now this guy, He is a jew
>>15950600

>>15951331
>Piece of shit tommy cooker that was pierced by rubber bullets and didn't scratch Tigers paint until leafs put a AT gun sideways into it because it was so shitty designed.
>There's your M4, both russian and german tanks were superior by far.
my sides
> Communism and capitalism, two sides of the same shekel. Natsoc is the third way.
Now that I know you’re just baiting I suggest you to go >>>/out/ fatty

>>15951352
he’s just baiting or indeed mush brained

>>15950402
Yes they had very nice rockets. However their overall output was middle-tier at best. They're nothing but a mid-sized euro country.

>>15951318
>move to a socialist country, stop being a hypocrite.
>implying I'm not living in one

"free" and "individualist" US
>Complete genocide of Native Americans.
>Slavery (contrary to popular belief not only blacks, but Irish, Chinese and Russians.)
>Concentration camps for Japanese
>Child homelessness rate higher than in fucking Cambodia
>US incarceration rate is higher than North Korea's.
>US poverty rate higher than in Vietnam and Albania
>US suicide rate right higher than African average

>>15951352
Not standard, but autoloader variants existed.

>>15950573
A lot of kraut engineering was autistic and impractical. Again and again there were over designed units that functioned well in isolation but took no account of repair or logistical questions.
Then there's the entire "overlapping circles of authority with unclear divisions" thing, making it impossible to organise things in a serious way. It's only because Speer had direct access to Hitler was he mostly able to cut through the bullshit.

>>15951465
what are you even saying the USA is a national socialist country?

>>15951273
Why do you keep referencing owning property like you dont have to pay property taxes every year on your land you "own" or they take it away? Here's some insight boomer, you've been spoon fed bs your whole life. The free market doesnt exist and never will. You are so free you can go to jail for collecting rain water. You can go to jail for calling an illegal immigrant an illegal in NY. You can go to jail for not paying taxes while banks are getting bailed out with tax payer dollars... you are for global capitalism aka globalism. You want to make the rich so powerful at an accelerated rate and have absolute control over every facet of life, while letting them also have control over all the money while everyone else suffers and works the money machine for them. You are a faggot and a slave. When you are in the nursing home, realize the large trans Somali woman sitting on the pillow over your face was your doing and the beauty of capitalism.

>>15950481
Soviets were the entire goal. Hitler overthrew the dystopian total-control Weimar Republic and ousted them, but the very same social circles had already taken over Poland and Russia. The entire war was about hunting down those people.

>>15951488
If it was, it has none of these things. USA is a jewish country.

>>15951501
I don't advocate for the united states in its current state because it is not capitalism nor free since there has been and unelected private bank redistributing individuals wealth to the collective output of the economy for 100 years via inflation.
That is a great tyranny, but it has been done to fight socialists because said debasement is the end goal of socialists - the redistribution of wealth from the individual to the collective.

>>15950662
It was Marx who invented Labor Theory of Value. Hitler was just putting it into practice.

>>15949702
pretty sure germany is still paying off debts

>>15949671
A lot is possible when you get certain types of people out of the way who when unchecked crush social mobility (and thus incentive to even try) and corrupt every system they touch.

>>15951559
I think it was the universe, the nature and the laws of evolution that invented proof of work.
Proof of stake is comparable to stars forming out of dust. The more mass there is from particles banding together, the more the gravitation grows, the even more mass you gain from the nearby dust particles as long as there are enough particles nearby.

>>15952107
There is a fifth force. If things get too condensed, they drift apart to redistribute more fairly. Same can be seen when the strong ones help the weak ones. God designed quite an interesting system we exist in. Not a religioncuck BTW.

>>15951395
Any existing groups discussing this extant? They have all... Sublimated away

How in the world can a thread about the Nazi economy have all these worthless posts and not a single mention of the actual Minister of Economics and President of the Reichsbank, Hjalmar Schacht? It’s like you people conceive of history through memes and 4chan infographics.

Germany boomed in the 30s because Schacht made trade deals with the Americas, Russia, and a few other countries like Switzerland. They provided capital in the form of raw materials - oil, rubber, metals - with the assurance that these loans would be paid back in Reichsmarks. Germany had labor and iron but it was lacking in almost every other metric required to run industry. Its primary advantage was that it was the sole European power whose manufacturing base had not been devastated during WW1. It thus became an extremely attractive investment opportunity for international finance - yes, for all those “evil bankers” the Nazis publicly railed about, in reality it was foreign investment that fueled Germany’s rapid rise.

The most ironic thing of all is that Germany would have commanded a dominating position in Europe as the chief economic power, capable of guiding policy for the foreseeable future - but Hitler threw it all away to rearm, tanking the economy. Worst of all is that Schacht was forced to resign, despite being solely responsible for attracting capital to Germany, and was replaced by Goering, a fucking retard, who Hitler himself even admitted had no clue how to run the economy. And this idiotic decision completely destroyed Germany.

>>15949671
that’s basically MMT

>>15950796
How many cocks have you sucked today? 3, and only 1 was aids ridden? I'm proud of you

You literally outed yourself as a newfag, all you fucking r*dditors and new faggots listen up because I'm real tired of this bullshit on muh fucking 4channels and I'm going to drop a fat stinky Redpill all over you right here:

Racism/white nationalism/ect was a meme, its still a meme, and it's always a meme. It's a meme that started with /b/ wayyyyy back when 4chan was just created, when your a pimply assed white suburban teenager in 2006-7 and you just found the internets mecha built on being as contrarian and original as possible what is the most edgy thing you can think to do? Say the word Nigger. It all evolved from there. Its literally a shit test, nobody here is actually racist, you literally make them racists however by pointing out when that they are not being racist. If you actually hated the racism on this site you'd keep your mouth the fuck shut and not say shit so you dont fan the flames. Its literally new fags like you that keep it going because its so easy to get a reaction, and your newfaggy ways of pointing out how you think this site is so racist invites bait galore. Also now that I have all you braindamaged fucks collected reading the same post I would invite you to leave, because as i mentioned I fucking hate r*ddit, when your parents told you tv would rot your brain what they actually ment was r*ddit will skull fuck your cognition. So please go back.

Also fuck kikes fuck niggers fuck jannies peace

>>15950258

What are you talking about? The US embargoed japan, surrounding it with warships and preventing them from obtaining the fuel needed to transport food to the big cities. By the time japan tried to scare off the US with military action, they barely had enough fuel to fly their airplanes so they used them as bombs. That is the story behind the kamikaze pilots, how did you not know this. The US committed an act of war against japan just like how England declared war on hitler.

>>15952950
You make a good point.
Germany now has the EU gripped by the balls without firing a single bullet. In some ways, Hitler squandered Germany's economic power on war when he could have used it to dominate the continent. From the onset an Imperial Germany was always at risk because it had no domestic oil production.

>>15951286
>whataboutism
You’re literally too low iq to understand history if all you see is people taking advantage of others.

>>15951375
I’m reading mein kampf right now and it’s beautiful. I can feel the electricity of his vision as I read, if only it would have come true. We are truly in a clown world.

>>15951501
Jesus this is so based, well done anon for blowing the fuck out of that piece of shit boomer.

>>15951539
DERRRRR TRUE FREEDOM HASNT BEEN TRIED DERRRRRRRRRRRRRR CAUSE OF SOCIALISTS DERRRRRRRRRRRRRRREE

>>15950258
>I have a small suspicion
come on, it's well documented

>>15953427
(((People)))

>>15949671
It was a sort of barter without relying on any assets. You do work, you get goods. It's as commie as can get to be honest.

>>15953488
USA was free prior to the establishment of the federal reserve

>>15953569
Why didn't he have them all arrested after he was president?

>>15953578
Have who?

>>15950411
>>15950524
>>15950258
>>15951292
It is encouraging to see /biz/ anons are aware of the complexities surrounding the German economy in the early 1900s. I raise aglass to you anons. Cheers.

>>15953592
The banker niggers. He knew what they were up to, at least from what I read, that's how it looked like, they tried to have him killed, but he was a tough old fart and didn't go down. I wonder if he could have really taken them out had he not focused on killing so many Indians, (I'm not sympathizing with the indians) i dont know. Im sure there was reasons.

>>15950213
>he pumped the economy with debt they couldn't afford
>then he conquered other countries to expand his economy
I don't know anon, but that's pretty fucking based if you ask me.

>>15953599
I'm a dumbass, can someone summarize this all up in a way that if a normie saw it, they would get red pilled? Like a green text post?

Here is a really cool interview of Hitler in the 1920s where he casts off the idea of an export-orientated revival and accumulating gold reserves.

https://www.theguardian.com/theguardian/2007/sep/17/greatinterviews1

>AH: "We must retain our colonies and we must expand eastward. There was a time when we could have shared world dominion with England. Now we can stretch our cramped limbs only toward the east. The Baltic is necessarily a German lake."

>Interviewer: "Is it not," I asked, "possible for Germany to reconquer the world economically without extending her territory?"

>Hitler shook his head earnestly.

>AH: "Economic imperialism, like military imperialism, depends upon power. There can be no world trade on a large scale without world power. Our people have not learned to think in terms of world power and world trade. However, Germany cannot extend commercially or territorially until she regains what she has lost and until she finds herself.

>AH: "We are in the position of a man whose house has been burned down. He must have a roof over his head before he can indulge in more ambitious plans. We had succeeded in creating an emergency shelter that keeps out the rain. We were not prepared for hailstones. However, misfortunes hailed down upon us. Germany has been living in a veritable blizzard of national, moral, and economic catastrophes.

>>15953602
The bank was granted a 20 year operation by Congress, Andrew Jackson stopped its renewal.

If you do something illegal you are arrested, unlike in National socialist Germany where you have no rights and can be arrested by order of a loser drop out, arts student with an unoriginal moustache

>>15950457
You realize that history is more than a few retarded facebook memes, right?

>>15953613
>socialism is based
Every woman in Germany was raped for 2 days when the Soviets took berlin.

>>15949671
Hitler was a Rothschild, so he had access to the world's most degenerate financial alchemists and funding from people who actually owned gold. He also stole as much gold as he could from individual and invaded countries alike, so it must have held some value

Uh hehehe

>>15950028
This thread is comfy

>>15953629
That's the funniest non-sequitur I've seen in a good while.

>>15953660
>Hitler was good for germans

>>15951395
based AF

>>15953665
Germans weren’t good for Hitler

>>15950234
So fucking based

>>15950570
>germany's economy was based on nothing but the delusion it's debt was worth something.
Germany's economy was booming, and Germany became the most innovative country in the world, spearheading things from the modern highway to the rocket science that put the US and Russia in space.

>>15953963
I don't deny the German economy boomed. I don't deny this boom manifested itself in the innovation you mention and more.
That boom came from debt they knew couldn't they couldn't pay. They were broke after ww1.
The plan was always pump the economy with debt then reduce the debt to gdp via conquest and financial repression of conquered nations.

The us petro dollar today is not much different in moral affect. They extort oil producing nations with the largest military in human history to only accept usd for oil. Allowing the usa to debase the wealth of other nations

>>15950699
>muh socialism is bad
kill yourself kike puppet, (((free markets))) and corporations are responsible for the degeneracy of the West

>>15954040
>That boom came from debt they knew couldn't they couldn't pay.
They could easily cover the actual debt.
It's the Versailles treaty debt that would've been crippling if Hitler hadn't put his booted foot down.

>They were broke after ww1
See above.
That Versailles treaty was a monstrosity brought on by French spite.

>>15954070
no. the fact that an unelected private bank debases the currency at 7%pa so that you are too poor to stop working is the cause of the degeneration of the west

Then shills like yourself try to make people blame social collectives or ethnic collectives for their problems so that they will vote for more socialism

>>15954077
no they couldn't, they were printing money and issuing promissory notes.

>>15954094
You're way too stupid to see the bigger picture, keep being a bootlicker for jewish corporations. I'm sure they have your best interests

>>15954103
you are the lowest form of human susceptible to the most brainlet tier propaganda: race. I can literally show you the relationship that enslaves you and you still can't understand it.

every jewish person on the planet could disappear tomorrow and you would go to work for wages denominated in a currency that is devalued to stop you from accumulating wealth. Debasement IS the socialism you advocate for, it redistibutes citizens wealth to the collective economy.
If you want to give away your rights to a socialist power move to china.

>How the fuck did this work in the real world?
Trusting each other

/thread

>>15954125
You keep spouting words like "cHiNa iS sOciAliSt" as if it's a valid counter argument without evem realizing that freemasonry and judaism has completely corrupted Europe while creating a soulless consumeristic individualistic society.

People like you shouldn't be allowed to vote, fucking traitor boomer scum

labor theory of value. it's a Marxist concept ironically enough.

>>15954125
In the world of tomorrow most Jews will indeed disappear.

>>15949671
When i was a child.. i could buy 1 ounceM of gold with a week of labor cremating pets/animals.

Now i can buy 1 ounce of gold with 1 months labor..

Amazing

>Implying that Europe's scenario after WW1 wasn't carefully planned
>Implying that Hitler seized all the power on his own and was anyhow responsible for economic policies

>>15954147
The cause of corruption and tyranny in the 21st century is socialism.
if judaism and freemasonry ceased to exist this very second you are still a slave to the central bank.
Even now as I explain the mechanism to you, you still cannot understand anything more complex than skin color.

>you shouldn't be allowed to vote
The irony of saying vote while advocating for national socialism
>traitor
read your own constitution, if you do not like it china is the closest state to nazi germany today - move there you socialist

>>15954094
>no they couldn't, they were printing money and issuing promissory notes.
That's an extremely generic description of how the economy works today.

>>15954192
I wasn't talking about how the economy works today I was talking about national socialist germanys economy. I don't even know why you are arguing gremany had money before they started conquering,skin heads wouldn't debate it.

>>15954208
>I wasn't talking about how the economy works today I was talking about national socialist germanys economy.
But you gave a very generic description of today's economy as an argument why the Germans couldn't pay off their debt.

>I don't even know why you are arguing gremany had money before they started conquering
They managed to conquer because they had a massive military industrial complex built up from scratch after WWI.
And they had this military because they had a booming economy.

>>15954217
> military industrial complex built up from scratch after WWI.
it was paid for with debt. I don't know why you have a problem with this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Nazi_Germany

>>15954230
>it was paid for with debt.
Again, this is how the economy works today.

Why are you struggling with this?

>>15951395
For those reading this, read The Omega File for more information.
https://www.globalgreyebooks.com/omega-file-ebook.html

>>15954235
you claimed they had the assets to cover the debt >>15954077
no they didn't

>>15954249
The same is true for modern economies.
What kool-aid are you drinking, jesus christ.

>>15951394
What a meme retard you are.
Debasement is what capitalism does to you since it lowers cost. That's now what I want, that's what you support.
>Israel
Illigitimate state only allowed to exist because you pay for it with blood and money.
I would love to live in 1930s Germany.

>>15951445
It's the truth, retard. You are just an ignorant boomer goy.

>>15949671
What do you mean how did it work? The nation was able to print its own money without a private central bank operating their (((fractional reserve))) scam and inherently indebting the country with perpetual irrecoverable debt.

>>15954249
>no they didn't
It's all about perception. Do certain superpowers today have the assets to cover their debt?

>>15954249
>Quotes Wikipedia
>29 posts ITT
>All-knowing manner

Calm down

>>15949671
if you figured out the secret, why would you ever tell anyone?

>>15954269
>More debt = more money.

Nobody cares

>>15954268
>>15954268
>(((fractional reserve))) scam
You're calling it a scam but you're playing in this game.

>>15952950
post more please.

>>15954256
I didn't say it wasn't
>The us petro dollar today is not much different in moral affect >>15954040

>>15954263
debasement through keynesian monetary policy to redistribute wealth from the individual to the collective is not compatible with capitalism because capitalism is about wealth being owned by citizens not the state or an ethnic collective.
>you want debasement
I clearly do not want debasement
>>15951394
>>15951539
>>15954094
>>15954125
>>15954168
>>15953569
Hitler loved keynes.
No man contributed more to the establishment of the state of Israel than Hitler.

>>15954269
I don't necessarily have a problem with debt, it is the answer to OPs question, for whatever reason >>15954077
this guy thinks the nazis had the money to pay for their war machine without using it, they didn't.

I have a problem with socialism and its hard to imagine why you'd be on biz if you didn't as well.

>>15950234

>>15950234
>WE

>>15954310
>I didn't say it wasn't
Right.
So there's no reason to fud the Nazi German economy, is there?

>>15954319
the german economy needed its military to kill people, conquer and financially repress nations to perpetuate itself to establish a socialist state.
They were such a pathetic attempt at a civilization they didn't even last half a human lifespan

If you live in a western country and you have been psyoped to support national socialism you are a disgraceful traitor.

>>15954349
>the german economy needed its military to kill people, conquer and financially repress nations
k bro

>>15952950
>>15954306
This. Sounds like you have the biggest brain here.

>>15954349
>31 posts of kvetching
The absolute state of juden

>>15954310
>Keynes
Braindead retard on the same level as Marx.
Problem is that you have to redistribute to the collective since the collective needs to provide services like law and order or infrastructure.
>inb4 private sector can do this
Only autistic ancap larper think this.
>Hitler loved Keynes and contributed to Israel
Imagine being this commically brainwashed. Is that what is being preached in your local synagogue?

>>15954349
Wrong again you degenerate jewish boomer.
Hitler didn't want war with the west. He wanted to reunite the germanic space and eventually get rid of the slavic menace.
Unfortunately he underestimated the obedience and bloodthirst from you anglo jew pets who die so happily for their jewish overlords.

>natsoc traitor
The traitor is you disgusting semitic boomer.
Cut your foreskins, send more millions to Israel and sacrifice more lives for Israel.

>>15954310
>this guy thinks the nazis had the money to pay for their war machine without using it, they didn't.

Of course they didn't. From an accountant's point of view. But it was diplomacy which decided the fate of the Germans. He complains about French spite. What' was the cause of French spite? It was Bismarck's occupation of France and the idemnity Prussia (which would become Germany) exacted 1873. How was the indemnity calculated? It was supposed to be equal to the indemnity Napoleon imposed on Prussia in 1807.

No emerging power or startup technically has the money to cover their debt. People are putting bets on other people and events, as they always have.

I never voted for a socialist (party) in my life.

>>15954310
>>15954249
>>15954230
>>15954208
>>15954168
>>15954349
You're wrong btw.
The entire Nazi economy was based on lampshades and soap made from human skin and fat.
That, and the rollercoaster amusement/extermination parks at Auschwitz for instance (see pic).

>>15954423
You forgot the masturbation machines, filthy goy.

>>15954401
another psyoped national socialist
https://youtu.be/y3qkf3bajd4

>Problem is that you have to redistribute to the collective since the collective needs to provide services like law and order or infrastructure.
what is a flat national sales tax

>Hitler didn't want war with the west.
I didn't say he did, I said germany needed conquest to pay its debt and establish a socialist state. It couldn't even manage that.
The reich lasted 13 years you pathetic traitor go and live in china if you want socialism so bad. Unironically why do you live here if you want to be a national socialist?

>>15954436
>>15954406
for you

>>15954436
>I didn't say he did, I said germany needed conquest to pay its debt and establish a socialist state. It couldn't even manage that.
>The reich lasted 13 years you pathetic traitor go and live in china if you want socialism so bad. Unironically why do you live here if you want to be a national socialist?
You sound scared.

>>15954436
Go ahead and type god for me

Alright, time to correct all the nonsense in this thread.

>>15949671
>strengthened the country to the point where it was a threat to every other developed nation in less than a decade.
1) WWI Germany was a threat to most of Europe, like WW2 Germany

2) WW2 Germany wasn't much of a threat outside of Europe, like WWI Germany

All Hitler did was bring them back to WWI-era military power. Which was easy, since he spent a boatload on military stuff from 1933 onward, while the rest of the world avoided military spending (until the war started).

>>15949878
>Hitler made Germany prosperous
lolwut. Living standards were lower than pre-WWI levels.

And he did that by not paying Germany's debts, acquiring foreign investment, looting parts of the Germans economy (e.g. Jews, certain manufacturers, et cetera), and other stuff that has short-term benefits, but doesn't make anyone prosperous in the long-term.

>>15954168
>china is the closest state to nazi germany today
Lolwut. China is a Communist country, that has adopted the crass consumerism and corporatism of the US, but retained the authority structure of the Communist party.

>>15950258
Japan didn't invade the US. Pearl Harbor was an attack on the US fleet, so Japan could break through the US oil embargo.

BTW, the US actually started the war, not Japan. If you use your navy to isolate a country, and block trade, you can expect retaliation against your navy.

>>15950355
>Germany was a shit tier engineering country
Germany was (and is) awesome at engineering.

>has the biggest industrial and economical issues during ww2 that arguably made them lost the war
Running out of oil, and being generally unprepared for winter, were the two most damaging parts of their invasion of Russia. Neither of them were really attributable to engineering flaws. It was really just insufficient planning and a lack of economic independence (e.g. in oil).

The Soviets had bad war planning too, but they had the rest of the world to help supply and manufacture their goods. Germany was on their own.

>>15950524
>So essentially the "debt" was a promise of labor optimization and more goods.
Bullshit.

Nazi Germany was built on debt. And the debt never got paid back. Empty promises.

>Also Hitler didn't conquer anyone
I'm just gonna leave that.

>return of the historically German Prussia to Germany and Historically Russian eastern Poland to Russia
1)What about the invasion of France/Norway/etc? Was that not conquest?

2) Eastern Poland was ruled by the Russian Monarchy/Aristocracy before WWI. Not the Soviets, who have no plausible claim to territory they never ruled.

>parts that were arbitrarily declared independent 20 years only prior.
So why didn't he help the Soviets invade Finland, which was also arbitrarily declared independent only 20 years prior?

>92% support in every poll until 1944.
Kim Jong Un gets 99.96% of the vote. I always wonder what happens to the 0.04%?

Old borders don't give you the right to invade. If it did, most countries would be involved in several wars.

Germany lost WWI. As a concession to their victors, They got shitty borders. That's the price - if you don't like it, don't lose.

>>15950712
>National-Socialist has nothing to do with socialism.
Yes it does. Everybody knows it does.

The term was used, to distinguish "national socialism" from "international socialism". The second one was often a euphemism for Bolshevism.

>>15951000
>Individualism is a modern invention
So is the centralized state.

Based on my reading of old Norse literature, a genuinely volkisch attitude would be kinda anarchist/tribalist. Certainly not the modernist/socialist notions of Nazi Germany.

>>15951068
>>15951019
>He's more than likely a civic nationalist which means he's totally abandoned the original ideas of the United States.
I'm not disagreeing with you, exactly. Obviously, many of the Founding Fathers would be considered White Nationalists, if they expressed their views today. However,

A bunch of the Founding Fathers expressed abolitionist rhetoric. Thomas Jefferson porked a black lady, and felt twisted about the morality of slavery. They were definitely playing around with racial equality, even if they didn't go very far with it.

>>15951146
>race is not a useful variable in the design of society.
Go live in Africa, or really any black-majority area of the world.

>>15951331
>muh shiny rocks is a ponzi scheme
Gold is worth pretty much the same today, as it was worth 200 years ago, or 2,000 years ago. It's obviously not a ponzi scheme.

>Hitler invented proof of work
lolwut.

>national socialism isn't socialism
I mean, arguing about the definition of "socialism" is like arguing about the definition of "Christian". There are a lot of sects, each of whom thinks they have the only truth, and who often claim other sects are false belief systems. I'll just say, that while National Socialism might not fit your particular definition of "socialism", it certainly identified itself as "socialist", and promoted all sorts of state-based economic central planning, and many collectivization programs.

>individual rights Includes homosexuality, transgenderism and soon pedophilia.
US has been around for 200+ years. Only in the past 20 (or so) has homosex been an individual right. I don't think it's unreasonable to say that you can have one, without the other.

>Guantanamo is a concentration camp
Based on this, and the immigration debate, I think people have difficulty telling "prison" from "concentration camp".

>>15951481
>A lot of kraut engineering was autistic and impractical.
Very true. Good engineering, but not necessarily god design.

>>15952950
Truth.

>>15954094
That chart is wrong.There was substantial inflation in the 1800s. The first gold dollar was a coin with over 3 grams of gold in it.

>>15954263
>I would love to live in 1930s Germany.
Even if you were non-Aryan?

>>15954310
>I have a problem with socialism and its hard to imagine why you'd be on biz if you didn't as well.
I mean, are you implying that lefties categorically cannot do business? That seems unlikely.

>>15954477
>Even if you were non-Aryan?
wtf would "non-Aryans" even be doing in 1930s Germany?

>>15954450
you sound like you have no arguments you socialist. This is not a socialist country go join one.

>>15954457
god

>>15954467
>Go live in Africa, or really any black-majority area of the world.
there problems are caused because they're vulnerable to socialists like mugabe. Capitalism is what they need, bitcoin can help achieve that.

>>15954468
the graph is not wrong.

>>15954477
BitCoin is completely incompatible with national socialism.
they seem to like link though >>15950234

>>15954485
Historically, there were significant populations of non-Aryans in 1930s Germany. Usually, they were born in Germany.

Poles and Jews were the most common groups.

>>15954506
>you sound like you have no arguments you socialist. This is not a socialist country go join one.
Are you talking about the US?
60% of US spending goes to supremely socialist programs like social security and healthcare.
That makes it very much a socialist country.

>>15950002
It's what you do, except Hitler lived, and Jesus was the creation of Vespasian and his family.

>>15954529
The socialism in the us is unconstitutional whereas it is the goal of national socialism

>>15954539
Cope.

>>15954506
>there problems are caused because they're vulnerable to socialists like mugabe. Capitalism is what they need, bitcoin can help achieve that.
name a single country whose majority demographic is black that is not suffering from economic turmoil.

>>15949671
>>15949671
>in less than a decade
actually more like three years, hitlers economic miracle turned the entire country around between 1933-36 germany rose from literal third world poverty to the strongest nation in europe. how did he do it? mainly by opting out of the central banking scam and getting back control over the money supply, also he renegotiated new terms with the creditors that were strangling germany to death after the versailles treaty. if youre interested you should read up on the economic policies of the NSDAP they had a 33 point plan and a lot of it would still make sense today. for example they refused to allow economic migrants into the country before they had full employment. the reasoning was "why should we allow foreign workers in if even a single german worker is out work". and you can see that happening today germany is importing millions of low skilled workers that are crushing wages in the lower sectors. I highly recommend reading pic related Gottfried Feder was hitlers economic guru who redpilled him on money and helped him come up with the economic policies. and if you read his book he ran the numbers and was actually in favor of a ZERO TAX policy and hitler was lowering taxes before WW2. it is unbelievable what happened in germany in just a couple of years, the main paradigm of hitler was that the economy should serve the people and not the other way around. I strongly believe a lot of these things would still work today but its impossible to opt out of the central banking scam. look at what happened to lybia when they tried to trade oil using their gold backed dinar they got bombed to shit by the US. I believe this was also a major catalyst for WW2 that the international banking cartel couldnt allow Germany to opt out of their scam and show the world what real economic freedom is like. if you read up on the history hitler tried many times to negotiate peace treaties with Poland and the UK and they always turned him down.

>>15954545
name one that is capitalist

>>15954544
you literally want national socialism

>>15954557
forgot pic related. this is the guy who redpilled hitler on economics. he ran all the numbers and was convinced that germany could run at ZERO TAXES. his idea was a lean state that basically guarantees basic services like military, police, etc and finances itselfy by using the countrys resources, mining operations, postal services and so on. today germany has one of the highest tax rates in europe and a lot of the services like trains and postal were privatized. ask any german the service quality has gone down, costs have gone up nobody is happy about it.

>>15954567
... cried the stable boy.

>>15954506
>>Go live in Africa, or really any black-majority area of the world.
>there problems are caused because they're vulnerable to socialists like mugabe. Capitalism is what they need, bitcoin can help achieve that.
Can you find an African nation that has adopted Capitalist principles, and become as wealthy as the US? Or even as wealthy as the poorest European country? You can't pick equatorial guinea, or any other country that's just super-rich in natural resources. I'm talking about genuine black-people-and-Capitalism prosperity. Where is it?

A few other questions:

Do you think White Supremacy (or however you would describe the pre-Mugabe government of Rhodesia) is compatible with Capitalism?

Would you describe the Founding Fathers as White Supremacists or White Nationalists?

>the graph is not wrong
Yes it is. Look at the earliest US dollar:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flowing_Hair_dollar
>Mass 26.96 g
>Composition 89.2% Ag

Look at that. Over 20 grams of gold, in the first dollar. According to the graph, the US dollar was worth less than 2 grams of gold around that period. The chart grossly underestimates inflation in the 1800s.

I've noticed that about gold bugs. They seem to genuinely not understand much about financial history before 1913.

>BitCoin is completely incompatible with national socialism.
Maybe the libertarian-ish ideological component of bitcoin. But you don't have to agree with that, in order to use and trade bitcoin.

>they like Link
We should try to get some newspaper to write about link as the "Nazi coin" or something. That would be funny. Of course, I say this as a proud nolinker.

about the "bloodthirsty hitler started WW2 for no reason meme": there is an excellent presentation by a former bundeswehr major on youtube where he breaks down what really happened, its called "the war with many fathers". he makes a good case that hitler was first and foremost building up defensive forces based on their troop numbers and then later on decided to attack poland after his attempts at peace treaties were slapped down time after time again (with influence from the United Kingdom and especially the warmonger Churchill). but unfortunately its in german only
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpDdTmEBKCk
another good video in english this guy breaks down the economic policies of the NSDAP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SGZmV8CsOY

alright you socialist shills I've gotta stop pointing out your hypocrisy, have a nice day.
I'd say go back to your reich but it only lasted 13 years.

>>15954561
Look at those goalposts fly.

>>15954561
Define "Capitalist".

Many African countries have lower government spending as a % of GDP, than the US or Europe.

>>15954570
>Manifesto for Breaking Slavery to Interest.
Step 1: Pay off debt
Step 2: You're done.

>>15951819
Yea, the EU's

>>15954590
>Step 1: Pay off debt
>Step 2: You're done.
not that simple anon, germany after versailles treaty was spending most of their money just on paying interest on the debt so they were never really getting out of it. I highly recommend Feders book he runs down all the actual numbers based on GDP and so on. very educational. I think the US is on track to get in a similar position where they have so much debt they will end up just paying interest at some point and the debt never gets any lower.

>>15954443
>linking yuri bezmenov
You are the perfect example of a useful idiot. In fact, anglos always have been. Without you we would today live in peace, free from shitskins and jews.
The reich wasn't allowed to last because it was a danger to the jewish anglo.
Both world wars were about the destruction ob the germanic people and making way for greater Israel.

>>15954468
Read the thread you dunce.

>>15954477
But I am.

>>15954606
I was half-joking.

>I think the US is on track to get in a similar position where they have so much debt they will end up just paying interest at some point
In the US, interest rates keep going down. If that trend continues, we'll actually keep spending a smaller and smaller % of GDP on interest on the debt.

The horrible, chaotic scenario for the US, would be a rise in interest rates. Then we'd have to start making large payments on the debt, and have to cut the budget elsewhere.

>>15954587
>later on decided to attack poland after his attempts at peace treaties were slapped down
Are you seriously implying that Hitler was afraid of a Polish invasion, and so preemptively invade Poland? Because that's retarded.

>>15954613
>Read the thread you dunce.
I glanced at it. You didn't respond to any of my points.

>non-Aryan
>would want to live in 1930s Germany.
Well, have fun then.

Seems a bit like a non-Korean wanting to live in North Korea, but whatever.

>>15954664
>I glanced it
There's your problem you lazy cunt, it's all there, just read the thread.
>assuming I am non aryan
Nice projection you smelly semite.

>>15954675
>it's all there, just read the thread
Yeah, I read all your posts. And you never responded to my points. Unless it was someone else, go away.

>assuming I am non aryan
You explicitly said you were non-aryan, retard.

Either that, or you mixed up which posts you were responding to.

>>15954263
>I would love to live in 1930s Germany.
>>15954477 (me)
>Even if you were non-Aryan?
>>15954613
>But I am.

>The horrible, chaotic scenario for the US, would be a rise in interest rates.
Unless it corresponded to a high economic growth rate. The horrible scenario for the US is the end of the USD as a world reserve currency.

>>15954756
Not realistically. Barring some bizarre technological shift, GDP isn't going to grow faster than 5% or so. But interest rates could get very, very high. A lot higher than 5%.

The federal government only collects 16% of GDP in taxes, and spends like 21% of GDP. The debt is about equal to GDP. A 1% rise in interest rates means that 5% of the federal budget must disappear. And a lot of the budget can't disappear. Interest payments on the debt, military spending, and certain social spending is all necessarily to sustain our position in the world. If you spend less on those, GDP starts to shrink.

>>15954462
based

>>15954580
Look at Baltimore or Chicago. Far less resource rich, but full of 85 IQ chimps applying pure free market capitalism. Imagine what they could do with triple digit IQs.

>>15954606
>>15954570
Feder was useful to the Nazis for his rhetoric, and his views were formative early on for Hitler, but functionally he was sidelined by the government when the NSDAP rose to power. He was appointed to the role of an undersecretary in the ministry of Economics and had no real authority when it came to policy. After the Night of Long Knives he largely withdrew from the government sphere.

What Feder didn’t understand is that it is possible to become wealthy even while paying off debt. Investors want as much money as they can get, meaning they are more than willing to invest further in a venture that is already giving them returns. The Dawes Plan and subsequent Young Plan consolidated German debt and war indemnities under the stewardship of American bankers, who were happy to offer a lower interest rate while also providing Germany with raw materials. In this way they could profit twice over on the German resurgence.

If they had simply followed the plan the Nazis would have paid off their debt by the late 80s and would still have been the preeminent economic power in Europe. Keep in mind that even after its destruction in WW2 and subjugation by the Soviets, Germany has since become one of the strongest economies (at least, until Merkel ruined it) and it did finally pay off its debts. It was never impossible to break free, nor was debt such an impediment that Germany could not become powerful.

It’s important to remember that the Kaiser, against all urging of his advisors, tried to fund WW1 entirely with loans, with the mistaken belief they would be paid off by war indemnities levied against his defeated opponents. He took an extremely risky long position and got fucked for it, which is what happens when you fund a war with debt and lose.

>>15954688
>I read all your posts
I told you to read the thread, not all of my posts you dunce. Other anons have already laid out everything for you.
>You explicitly said you were non-aryan, retard.
I said I am aryan you dunce. I am ethnic white german with blue eyes and dark blonde hair, one of the few who are left.

>>15949671
We need a currency that’s directly tied to calories burnt, then make it the standard for America

>>15955440
Is that what it takes to motivate you?

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