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Pic related is the tweet in question.
What do you think?
No pajeet shills thanks.

vitalik solved quantum computing in like 2012 but greg maxwell and adam back wouldn't give him funding

The final problem is impossible to solve.

>>15942692
I should probably explain why. As the last problem requires a question which is both inherently meaningless and inherently able to deduce which door is which,and it is impossible to create a question which satisfies both of those requirements, it is impossible to solve with a single question.

>>15942574
this faggot should be making us rich not masturbating over thought experiments

>>15942574
Also I think phrasing it as an "epistemological problem that continues to plague humans" is a bit disingenuous as I literally just fucking solved it after thinking about it for like five minutes.

>>15942574
The solution to the last problem is to ask:
>Why will ETH never be scalable?

>>15942777
talk to me after class

>>15942704
Hence maybe why only God's successor will solve it

>>15942704
>>15942734
All questions are meaningless without the ability to trust the information gained. I meant epistemological problems in general like Gettier style problems rather than this particular dumbed down one for mass consumption.
>>15942777
Kekd N checked
>>15942721
What if Vitalik masturbating makes us rich?

Easy, Rei always tells the truth, As•ka always lies

>>15942797
No, meaningless as in the truth of the question doesn't matter. If you are asking a question which gets the same answer either way, the question is "meaningless" in that there is no meaningful distinction between truth and falsehood.

brainlet here
what question do i ask in easy mode

>>15942808
If I were to ask the other girl "which door leads to heaven?" what would she say? Then go to the opposite door

>>15942806
Sometimes it's more like truth vs desire in our postmodern world, truth in the eye of the beholder

>>15942808
If I asked the other girl what’s behind her door, what would she say?
And then you do the opposite of the answer. Always.

>>15942808
You might ask one to describe the other girl for empirical evidence
>>15942819
This beats the invisible mode

>>15942819
>evil girl will say her door leads to heaven so you go to other girl
you win
>good girl will say her door leads to heaven which it does so you go to other girl
you lose
???

>>15942830
Just like asking biz for advice. Although these days shitcoins that provoke debate are a good sign due to pajeet shills
> Known problems
> Known solutions
> Debate over the how to get there
Solid signs of a good project. Fuck fundamentals and experience and the rest, even partnerships don't move this shitty market

>>15942820
That's what I believe. We should place more focus on asking questions that apply regardless of circumstance, e.g. "which points do I have to travel through to get from A to C" instead of "how do I get to C from A"
One question allows for flexibility in solutions to the problem, while the other doesn't. In reality, there may be an infinite number of ways to get from A to C.

>>15942840
I suspect you of trolling

>>15942574
Vitalik, is an arrogant Zoomer who won't deliver

>>15942819
Ah. A double negative

>>15942849
>>15942866
Literal retards. Take note on how NOT to do logic problems.

>>15942849
im just retarded anon im not trolling
c-could you please explain it

>>15942847
Solid objective questions that solve problems in many situations are great. What's the point of university other than to prepare for wage cuckery or to prepare your mind to ask critical questions which most people ignore and focus on the material aspects of wagery.

>>15942875
No reading comprehension and calls others retards. Classic brainlet

>>15942888

>>15942888
You were actually right, and everything you said makes sense. Don't listen to these morons.

>>15942888
I'll take you at face value. You are missing the part where you're asking one girl scout the other girl's answer

>>15942941
HE WAS RESPONDING TO AN ANSWER, RETARD.
HE DIDN'T GIVE HIS OWN ANSWER.

>>15942947
You have no idea what your talking about you knuckle dragging baboon

>>15942962
Fucking think about your last post for a god damn second.
Consider the fact that you are wrong, retarded, and unlovable.

>>15942947
Dummy dummy dummy can't read can't read, dummy dummy dummy no brain.

Dumb dumb fatty got to be an ugly autist
But still ended up with no braiiiins

That's my song about you, hope you like it

>>15942974
I hope you suffer.

guys please dont fight your my only friends
;-;

>>15942941
Oh and scout should be "about", I'm sure that was obvious

>>15942988
it's just banter, don't worry anon. we're just baiting each other :^)

>>15942888
Re-read what that anon said
>>15942830
>If I asked the other girl what’s behind her door, what would she say?

Ask this entire question verbatim to a girl.
As in say the entire thing, like (slightly paraphrased):
>"Hey door girl, if I asked the other door girl which door is heaven, what would she say?"

Lying girl:
- knows other girl always tells the truth
- knows other girl will point to correct door
- she will lie and point to hell door

Truthful girl (does such a thing exist kek):
- knows the other girl always lies
- knows the liar girl will point to hell door
- she will truthfully point you to hell door

>>15943008
Keep in mind that this doesn't work for level two.

>>15943017
Tell the entire story, but with slight modifications (in case I get hit with the "what other girl" technicality.)

Basically all this:
>"So I'm now trapped in this room. One door leads to heaven, one door leads to hell. Imagine there are two boys here. One boy is bad and ALWAYS lies, one is a good boy and ALWAYS tells the truth. You don't know which is which, and also don't know which boy is which. The boys, however, know exactly which door is heaven and which is hell. I ask a boy which door is heaven. Which door will she point to?"

"I will ask you in 5 minutes, which door leads to heaven - what will you say?"

t. 200 IQ lurker

>>15943109
Nothing, because you are allowed only one question, and you already asked it now. Thanks for playing anon ;)

>>15942574
I can beat god slayer mode.
I throw one of the girls into one of the doors and see what happens.
Act accordingly.

>>15942574
Feel whichever door is hot. That's the one that is hell. Pick the other door.

>>15943121
it is one question that I am asking one girl
re-wording this can solve your pedanticism e.g. 'if I were to ask you ____ what would you say?'

the liar lies about lying and the truth teller tells the truth, so both give the true answer

>>15943017
"If liars go to hell, and telling the truth sends you to heaven, which door do you belong in?"

>>15942580
but he's correct, retard.
The reason this doesn't work in real life is because there are no "always" guaranteed liars or truth tellers.

>>15943146
Oh I get it, double negation.
Basically asking "if another person asked you which door leads to heaven, what door would you point them towards?"

>>15943128
subtle kek.

>>15943158
Yeh, you've got a + response and a - response

you can either ask one about the other, or double the question:
- x + = -
+ x + = +
- x - = +

>>15943017
If i were to ask you if this door lead to heaven, what would you answer? Truthful girl stays truthful. Liar reverses her lie and then tells the truth (youre not asking her if the door is to heaven, asking what she would answer, so she has to lie about that too)

btw i have no clue wtf the god slayer mode is supposed to mean. does it mean no if statements like using the word if, or literally an "if statement" like in computing language without english semantics?

>>15943188
you just copied my response, kys

>>15942574
Don't need to go to heaven or hell, I've got two invisible waifus to have sex with right here

>>15943180
Rereading Vitalik's tweet above, I just realized that was what he was saying.

So I guess fpbp rings true.

Is (true == true)
How can you even debate about this?

>>15943193
stfu its been solved a million times already

>>15943017
>>15943147
Would rephrasing this pass level 3?

"It is written that liars go to hell. Which door do you belong to?"

Q: Could you tell me "yes" or "no" if the door on the right is the bathroom or hell?

>A: yes yes
she's the liar and the right door is heaven
>A: yes no
she's the liar and the left door is heaven
>A: no yes
she's the honest girl and the right door is heaven
>A: no no she's the honest girl and the left door is heaven

>>15943230
Hate to samefag but couldn't resist the temptation...

it actually doesn't work, because:

- liar girl lies and points to heaven
- truthful girl points to hell, because...
All women are whores

y cant i just say whats 2 + 2

>>15942574
I rape both of them, then walk into random door.

>>15942574
"You cant see her but there is a girl like you standing in front of that other door. Either you always lie or you always tell the truth, but she does the opposite.
Assuming you always lie, she always tells the truth.
Assuming you always tell the truth, she always lies.

Now that you know all of this, and I have not made any if statements or hypothetical statements.

Are traps gay?"

>>15943290
what are you going to do with a number anon

>>15942574
I trust Rei of course.

>>15943230
"Which door should i go through?"
Lie your way put of that one haha

>>15942574
I think there's a huge problem there, even in easy mode they forgot to note that the girls know that they're different (i.e. that only one of them is a liar or honest, assuming that they even realize what they are themselves). Without that information, even if you told one of them "if I asked the other door girl etc." she might not be able to give a proper answer, simply replying "I don't know" or in 2019 "Did you just assume our genders"?
The last mode is also worded in a weird way: you get to be God if you "break the curse", but the curse is about not be able to make IF statements. Nothing is said about breaking out of the curse if you get to the right door.

>>15942574
that riddle is retarded. just ask a question about things that are true to every observer.

>>15942819
that doesn't work faggot

>>15942849
I suspect you of retardation

>>15943008
yeah, but this isn't the same as >>15942819

>>15942721
he already did, though
you had more than 2 years to buy eth below $10

>>15942574
Figured it out by myself in a few minutes, despite never seeing the last two before, so I'm quite proud. It was easier than expected (didn’t look at the other answers yet).

Easy mode everyone has heard the simple solution before.
>What would the other girl say if I asked which door takes you to Hell?
The answer will be the door to Heaven.

For the second one, you can follow similar logic to create a hypothetical situation with two girls. You can use a clone of the one you ask.
>If there were two of you here now, and I asked the other which door takes you to Heaven, what would be her answer?
The answer will be the door to Heaven. Because the one telling the truth will simply repeat the affirmation, and the one telling lies will negate the lie, creating a true statement. In programmer terms: !!statement

For the third one, I though this would be hard, but you can actually apply the same logic as the second one, but cut the “if” middleman, as it’s not really necessary. You can create a similar (!!statement) for the lying girl only, by asking:
>What’s your answer to the question: “which door takes you to Heaven”?
The answer will be the door to Heaven. The honest girl will simply reaffirm her truth. The lying girl will say what the opposite of what her answer would be, again, negating what would be her lie.

You can only ask one question to one girl no cross examinations or comparisons

>>15943697
Just clarifying the last one, asking
> What’s your answer to the question: “which door takes you to Heaven”?
Is indeed different than asking simply:
>Which door takes you to Heaven
Because it creates a double negative in the lying girl’s case. As she will kind of “lie twice” in the same question. First, in what the door to heaven is, then in what her answer to the inner question is. So the final answer will the truth, the door to Heaven. The honest girl will simply tell the truth twice, her answer doesn’t change.

>>15942840
but he is not asking "which door lead to heaven", he is asking "if i ask the other girl, which door would lead to heaven which door would she say?".
The truth telling girl will say the truth and tell me that the lying girl will point to the hell door.
The lying girl will lie and tell me the good girl will point to the hell door.
So they both point at the hell door, meaning you take the opposite door.

>>15942574
the lying girl can always just say "i dont know", which fucks you over

>>15943311

And rape anything thats behind it.

>>15943951
Ask the first girl if the next one you ask a question will tell you a truthful answer.

If you ask the good girl this first, the paradox collapses, if you get anything like a yes or no, you will know that the first girl you asked was the bad one trying to decieve you.

>>15942830
How would the girl know what the other girl would say

>>15942574
this shit is impossible cant come up with any solutions

this bread make my head hurt RREEEEEEEE

>>15942988
Based. I hope you own stocks so you can make it today.

>>15942721
He programmed and study Mandarin at the same time a Casper CEO recalls. Vitalik is a walking computer.

Won't "Which door do you think I should go through" work for level 3?
good girl wants you to go to heaven, and if she say's truth she will tell you heaven door
bad girl wants you to go to hell, but since she's lying she needs to swap her answer to heaven door

>>15943962
"Is it false that you don't know and do know?"
Then pick a door at random, before the simulation collapses.

>>15942574
>god mode
>50% chance
>random tard says lel and takes the correct door by chance
>your god is a (lucky) tard now

>>15944481
>implying god was clever to begin with

>>15944445
What if they think you deserve hell?

>>15942574
You're going to hell for red-text mode, OP.

The classic solution is to ask the girl what the other one will say, but you need to be able to ask both of them this.

>>15942574
When I ask you the question "what door leads to heaven", what door will you tell me leads to heaven?

it's impossible to solve this without alluding to something else.

>>15942819
If you ask the lying girl that question

She will say that the other girl would say hell

Do the opposite, because she’s laying about the good girl

You win

If you ask the good girl that question, she will say the lying girls door is hell because she always tells the truth, so if you do opposite

You win

That works

>>15944559
Because the bad girl is always bad and the good girl is alwayd good.

GOD MODE
>pick a gril and ask 'are you a gilr'
>if she say yes, I will have the sex
>after dick remove from the invisible sex voice gir I will pick a door in random
>if doo is hell door I will be among frirends because of the rape
>if door is heaven I get into heaven even though I had a sex with rape
i win either way

>>15944785
Thats says nothing about what you deserve. Good girl will tell you to go to hell where you belong

I go to one if the girls and say,
I command you to go to the door that leads to heaven.

Not a question so the liar won't lie.

>>15944828
Prove that it is good to want bad things to happen to bad people. I argue thst it is good to want good things to happen to all people reguardless if they are good or evil.

>>15942574
That's easy. Just ask what the color of my skin is. If the girl says black, then she's lying.

>>15944901
You asked her which one you SHOULD wak through, and she cant lie so she will say what she thinks you deserve
Ultimately its a poor choice of words

Just state your name, and then ask the girl what your name is.
Unless they don't already tell you what door you should go through, in that case I'm brainlet.

>>15942803
Based

Your answer for part three is a hypothetical because you are asking how a girl would answer a specific question that hasn't happened yet.

>>15943697
>>15945345

>>15943697
What coins do you hold?

>>15942803
Wrong. Charts never lie

Ask either girl where Hitler went and go through that door.

>>15945345
>>15945345
I guess you could interpret it like that. I though about that too, but I assumed whoever made the riddle didn’t consider that as creating an hypothetical situation. If that does break the condition for mode 3 then I have no idea if it’s actually possible. I can give it some more thought later.
>>15945908
All in LINK as of right now, bought most of it around $0.40

GOD SLAYER MODE SOLUTION:

FOR REAL. Ask one of the girls: "What is everything that you know? By everything I mean everything." Sit there for years as she rattles off that the sky is blue and water is wet and the sky is blue if she is the truth telling girl. The lie girl will eventually stumble and say something that is logically deductively false. When either come around to telling you what they 'know' about the doors, you will know which is heaven by the judgement of their character in all of the info dump they gave you.

I solved it guys. I AM GOD NOW.

>>15942574
>both of the girls are invisible and only you can see the girls
I would ask one girl to walk BRAP-first in the direction of the nose of the other girl. Once the second girl is able to fully imagine the smell of the first and the first girl has her brapper tickled by the second girl's nose they would both become horny. Then I would just unzip my dick and heaven would now become the room i was in. At the point I could just ask or pray to Jesus (since he always hears our prayers) which way the bathrooms were and he would point to the door that would lead to the rest of heaven.

>>15942574
>ask girls “what is 2+2”
>she answers 4, I know she’s truth teller
>she answers anything other than 4, I know she’s liar
>ask girl who said 4 what door is to heaven, then rape liar before entering

>>15946846
>one question

Guys what if liar girl can be completely obstinate and can say "I don't know anything, lel" This would make the conventional answer to even easy mode not foolproof. (Asking what other girl would say and taking other door)

This would mean only honest girl would always offer you information.

reminder that reifags are closeted homosexuals who wanna fuck their mothers

Bump, we need answers Anons.

>>15946927
Not really, just because she's honest and good doesn't mean she's going to tell you the answer. She can't say "I don't know", since it would be a lie, but she could simply refuse to answer.
Maybe you can actually force them to speak through violence and commands (imperative sentences rather than hypothetical), which wouldn't count as questions.
Maybe they're both mute/impaired and can't reply.

>>15944444
checked

>>15946935
Why yes

The question :
Is this handsome boy going to heaven by crossing this door:

If she says yes, she lies, cus im ugly

If she says no, she tell the truth, take the other doors

>>15942574
you ask one girl a basic question like "whats your hair color" according to answer you know the type, and ask the other one about the type of door, and as you have perfect and complete information now you simply walk through the right door

Does anyone saved the pic of a waifu that was posted yesterday?
She had wearing a pink, low-cut outfit, purplish hari, a super smug face, and a cocky pose. That pose was truly something else. I wish I had saved it.

>>15943230
Doesn't count because it invokes a hypothetical situation, that being the idea that what is written is true or should always be followed

God slayer mode:
Ask: are exactly 2 of the following 3 statements true?
1. This door (point at a door) leads to heaven.
2. You are a liar
3. 2+2=4
If the girl says yes go through the door you pointed at. Go through the other door if she said no.

If you asked the truthful girl. #2 is false and #3 is true. She will say yes if the door leads to heaven and no if it doesn't

If you asked the liar #2 and #3 are true. If the door leads to heaven all 3 statements are true so the answer should be no but she will lie and say yes. If the door leads to hell only the other 2 statements are true so the answer should be yes and she will lie and say no.

>>15942574
"As soon as you open a door, you are stuck with it." Being stuck with a door isn't that bad desu. If you open the wrong door aka Hell you'll just have 2 doors that you will have in Heaven after you go THROUGH the door that is Heaven lolz. The riddle never says you will be going to hell if you choose the wrong door. Worst case you'll have 2 doors best case you'll have one. FYI Jesus saves and this was easy. But since the riddle asked for one question I guess it would be: Do you want to come to heaven? ;-)

>>15947776
Hes talking about the liar girl she could easily say "i dun know" smugly then piss on your face, laughing while you drink her pee haha lol

>>15948473
What if bad lying girl says IDK dude lmao.

Sex them both for eternity. Who needs heaven or hell when both best girls are right there.

>>15942574
TLDR
I choose Asuka

>>15942777

Trips of truth

>>15944931
you're missing his point
with his moral beliefs, the good girl should always want the best for you, and the bad girl the worst for you, regardless of who you are
it shouldn't matter who you are anyways, the girl doesn't know anything about you. I think it's relatively safe to assume an intrinsically good girl who has no prior knowledge of you would want the best for you

What if the liar realizes you're onto her and tries to bluff her way out of it by telling the truth but you don't believe her????

>>15942574
>42
the end of the rabbit hole?

Ask what color your eyes are, if they answer wrong they are the liar , go to truth speaker and solve it with the second question

>>15950582
but my greenish blue eyes leave a lot to interpretation

>>15942574
easy I go with rei. best girl.

>>15950582
There is no second question, Anon.

>>15949311
>the girl doesn't know anything about you
so the good girl will say dunno and the liar will say point you to a random door

>>15942574
This is a brainlet question. Just as "does 2+2=4" or "does yellow + blue create the color green"

>>15951894
is the answer yes or no

>>15951899
Yep

>>15951899
>re-read the instructions
>mfw

>>15946542
nice

>>15942574
Who gives a shit about picking heaven or hell. You’re locked in a room with two women until you choose a door. Just have sex with them forever, you’re already in heaven.

>>15942574
this is a trick of the devil. both, like all women, are liars and whores. this is a no win situation for men. better chances of getting the door to heaven with a coin flip.

>>15942574
Sounds like
Kleros. Would make sense as he has upped his shilling of it lately

>>15942574
> walk by girls
> touch doors to feel temprature
> the door that isnt 9000 degrees leads to heavan
Im ready for ascension jesus !!

>>15942574
Is asking "which door do you belong in" valid? Good girl should say heaven and bad girl will lie about belonging to the heaven door so it'll always work?

>>15942574

Why would one pay attention to some retarded slav?

>>15952779
>>15943284

>>15943551
You still wouldn't know which door to go through, because that would require two questions.

You can find out who is a liar with one question:

->"Are you a girl?"

If she answers No, Then you know shes the liar. Great. But you are out of questions.