/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>15923935
have you tried having sex

You're not alone anon. 30 here and master wizard.

your neurotransmitters are fucked
try to repair them or ldar

You're autistic and stupid that's all

Was similar to you until I was 23. Literally just have sex. What I mean is stop jerking off and go on dates until a girl throws herself at you. Alcohol helps if you're open to that. If you aren't ugly as fuck or retarded then you're guaranteed to have sex this way. If you get a slut to go out with you you can even tell her you're inexperienced and she'll do all the work for you.

- maybe psycopath? do you feel empathy? i assume so
- denial. better to deny the possibility of failure by saying you could of had them if u wanted to
- low testosterone
- maybe you need to commit to someone. thatll build attraction/attachment over the long term as youve now invested in them

>>15923955
the issue isnt I cant get laid. The issue is I feel nothing

>>15923956
probably commitment is the only way like starting out as friends but shit, I am a pretty distant person so idk. I tend to not really be very open.

if you lack emotions, chances are youve buried them / distanced yourself as a defense mechanism. bullied / traumatised as a kid? had your heart broken?
emotions are tools. people ran by them are weak. people that avoid them / distance themselves give up some hugely powerful tools.
if you have distanced yourself (or numbed, whatever you like to describe it as (4chan is pretty common with this type of person)) learn to get back in touch with them. they are the spice of life if used properly

>>15923962
Seek a therapist then. Billlions of men are able to feel connection and intimacy without issue. Something is wrong with you.

are you 100% sure the girls were flirting with you or were they just being nice?

>>15923983
You aint wrong about the childhood trauma, but fuck that normie shit.

>>15923955
This guy is right. Fuck first befriend later.
I cant feel, or rather never felt connection either, but the primal urge to bang is still there and activated regardless of emotions.

It’s called disillusionment

>>15923998
well lets go back in time. In hs, this one girl reached for my dick while in class but I stopped her hand. Another girl openly straight up said she had feeling for me. Another time I was walking with a girl while her friend (that didnt know me) described me and basically said she liked me by accident so theres that. Another blushed when I said hi to her from time to time. Yet another straight up flirted with me for a whole year (she was like the hottest girl ive seen to date. Well tied with another girl). There were like a dozen hotties in hs. Then in college, actually not that many. Maybe a few here and there but not really. At most a girl from a class asked me to hold her purse/bag whatever its called while she went to the restroom. She was sitting on another seat in class and randomly started sitting right next to me which maybe wasnt flirting but at the very least could have been a good friendship. Tb.h I am pretty mentally fucked and have this feeling of impending doom 24/7 which numbs me so even though she tried being my friend, I just was to depressed to even bother.

So, long story short besides the last girl, everyone basically legit through themselves to me but I have been too depressed my whole life to the point where I dont even feel human anymore. I am jaded as fuck.

>>15924032
>through
threw

>>15924032
>I am jaded as fuck
Well there we go, don’t sweat it champ god made soulless hookers for guys like us

It is linked to trauma experienced as a child.
This is deterministic.
You will find purpose and fulfilment if you hammer down on the strengths that this trauma has given you.
Look to add value and help with the progress from type 0 to type 1 civilisation.
The simulation has provided you with the initial conditions (trauma), now start thinking about why that is?
What are your strengths?

>>15924004
>You aint wrong about the childhood trauma, but fuck that normie shit.
wrong. that fucked your neurotransmitters up. maybe something else like drugs too.
you can try to repair them (nofap, working out, healthy food, supplements). its hard but possible. the most important stay a hundred miles away from drugs like antidepressants and benzos.
or just ldar

>>15924087
He needs to see a therapist first. His relations to humans are stunted likely do to poor parenting. With a therapist he’ll be able to revisit the trauma and release those pent up emotions. I know this because I’m similar to this guy
>good looking
>tall
>girls have shown interest
And yet I feel nothing. I’m completely numbed right now, nothing is worth it except reading and following economic news. Im in therapy right now and it’s actually helped me see people in a more realistic way. There’s something about the therapist that allows you to reset these attachment issues.

For now I remain cold and distant and kind of dark triadic seeming, even though I’m innately empathic. Life can fucking ruin you lmao

>>15924127
>He needs to see a therapist first
he doesn’t need shit
or at least a based therapist who is against drugs like ssri and benzos but it’s extremely rare.
he needs to toughen up and start his path to healthy neurotransmitters from nofap, sports and healthy food + some supplements like l-theanine and magnesium.
if he won’t see positive results within a month or two - then yes, maybe he should to try and find a good therapist but i think he’ll get well without that

p.s. to all anti-nofappers: i agree that fap isn’t so harmful to persons with healthy neurotransmitters but when they are fucked up - fap is one of the worst things to do

>>15923935
Ive never had a gf and im 25 but I have had sex.What does this make me/mean?

>>15924127
Why should it be ill when a guy isn't interested in shallow and socially destructive intimacy with roasties who flirt with him because... why exactly did they flirt with him? Look at today's society and casual sex culture. If you understand yourself, you will start feeling alienated. Because you cannot bond with, nor be intimate, with people who have no concept of trust or loyalty. First and foremost, considering these circumstances, it's socially intelligent behaviour.

Maybe he's the type who grows into relationships? Because he's demi-sexual or whatever you call it? So he needs chemistry and then feel empathetically attracted. But he himself states that there's no interesting (real) person he can bond with? At least in the Western world with extremely unfeminine women or whatever. Why should the absence of chemistry be ill? Many intelligent people experience the world in such a way. Etc.

Not saying that maybe he isn't traumatized, but your opinion, which was likely instilled in your mind by suggestive quacks, isn't necessarily true. Moreso in today's shallow and Western society.

>>15924004
This exactly. Shallow sex is alienating for socially intelligent people. So maybe there is a trauma indeed? That is the trauma of today's Western society being alienating if you are socially intelligent. Doesn't mean you are "ill". The same way you aren't ill for having a healthy weight in a society in which obesity is the norm.

>>15923950
Can confirm. I’m stupid and autistic myself and I sound just like OP

>>15923935
>Like even when they are nice to me and I try to keep a conversation going, I feel nothing. No chemistry. What the FUCK man

I had a variant of this. Multiple women have walked up to me and kissed me and I didn't feel comfortable moving forward.

TLDR
The issue was nervous system stimulus response pattern errors.

You want my copy pasta fix?

>>15924032
>So, long story short besides the last girl, everyone basically legit through themselves to me but I have been too depressed my whole life to the point where I dont even feel human anymore. I am jaded as fuck.

I also had this.
This is a sign of disassociation which is a symptom of nervous system freeze response.

>>15924188
It’s not rare at all? Just see a MSW for talk therapy. They don’t diagnose shit.
After some sessions you can start to work exercise, vitamin d/whatever supplements you need, work, and ultimately a good relationship. All you need is one good girl desu

>>15924357
“Quacks” aren’t suggestive faggot. I read the literature, worked the sessions, and I’m in a better position to choose the right girl out of a sea of what seems to be only thots. Like I said, I’m not dissimilar to OP. He’s just not gonna find her with his attitude

Oh by the way, there’s this short story by David Foster Wallace, “good old neon” if you are really a fraud, you will like it. But if you like it you are not a fraud. Quite the paradox OP, quite the paradox

All virgins in this thread need to make a sex trip to Thailand at least once. You'll lose your virginity and learn how to flirt in less than a day after landing. Increase your chances of a gf/sex back home because you won't feel so weird about sex anymore.

>>15923935
Here's the solution:
>kys

>>15924127
>For now I remain cold and distant and kind of dark triadic seeming, even though I’m innately empathic. Life can fucking ruin you lmao

What modalities does the therapist use?
You may like
Shrink Rap Radio
https://www.youtube.com/user/ShrinkRapRadio1/videos

>nothing is worth it except reading and following economic news
I was the same. What do you read?

Your urge to have sex is the connection anon. Go for it

>>15924427
My therapist is a Lacanian analyst so I just free associate. I showed up narcissistic and now I’m not really narcissistic. So it worked.

As far as what I read, Im reading genesis, paradise Lost, and some nonfiction about the bible.

I listen to macrovoices the podcast, and pay attention to twitter. I don’t really wanna jump into it too heavily yet. I got about a 4 year plan to become a relatively competent investor

What do you read?

>>15923935
Incels should be shipped off to labour camps. These camps would be full of giant wheels that power crypto mining for world.

You earn a small percentage of your chosen coin that you mined which can be spent at the incelemporium. Here you can buy banned russian steroids for your legs and other premium items.

We could turn it into a running man type event, incels could be celebrities in their own way watched by millions across the globe.

>>15924407
>Here's the solution:
>kys
Please make an instructional video to show OP how to...

>>15923935
This is a business and finance board, not an advice board for autismo incel shitposting

>>15924459
>incels could be celebrities
>incelebrities

>>15924453
>My therapist is a Lacanian analyst so I just free associate. I showed up narcissistic and now I’m not really narcissistic. So it worked.

Great to hear the therapy is working for you.
I'll check out Lacan's work.

The most important information I've found therapy wise is a type of neuro plasticity called memory reconsolidation.

Memory Reconsolidation in a Nutshell
https://youtu.be/cJrfsjT35UE

You want my full therapy copy pasta?


>What do you read?
I now only read this guy, he has a supercomputer with 6,000 years of economic data that makes trend predictions that are very accurate. I'm consistently making money based on his models and the computers price predictions.

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/blog/

This video gives a detailed explanation of his work.
https://chadanon.s3.amazonaws.com/Analytical+Conference+-+Understanding+Cycles.mpeg

TLDR
It's all about capital flows and how waves of capital flows interact with each other to produce price trends.

>>15923935
BBBRRRAAAAAPPP PPPPFFFFT
>imagine the smell

>>15924506
Lacan is hard to read I wouldn’t recommend trying. I certainly
Can’t read him right now. But the best thing to do would be to read Freud’s five lectures on psychoanalysis. He describes the concept of free association, and doesn’t really go into all the sex stuff he’s infamous for. It’s really about the free association and not the sex stuff. Psychoanalysis gets a bad rap but people forget that Jung was also an analyst, just a different one.

>>15924506
And yeah the memory reconsolodation thing actually happened to me, totally think that’s legit. Send some stuff if you can.

>>15923935
>Ive had hotties flirt with me
No you didn't mr. wild imagination ugly face.

>>15924523
>But the best thing to do would be to read Freud’s five lectures on psychoanalysis
I recommend you watch this video first. It's by a Freudian and shows how Freud's model maps to what is known about the brain from neuroscience.

https://youtu.be/Cd44vnsa2iY?t=124

>>15924532
>Send some stuff if you can.
Below is my copy pasta.

Memories/nervous system responses get locked for life.
You need to updated the nervous system responses in order to change the way you feel.

Learning this stuff some of which is barely 6 months old, has been the best time investment I've had.

TLDR
You want to apply therapy techniques to yourself or with a therapist that trigger a type of neuro plasticity called memory reconsolidation.

The therapy techniques I recommend are:
EMDR
Internal Family Systems
Coherence therapy

Memory Reconsolidation in a Nutshell
https://youtu.be/cJrfsjT35UE

Bruce Ecker, MA, LMFT: Memory Reconsolidation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpqyvm0fM3Q

http://www.iaan.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/IJNPT_Vol6_issue1.pdf

Internal Family Systems (IFS): A guided meditation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ew2w561Ge80

Reflections on The Cutting Edge of Trauma Therapy with Dr. Ricky Greenwald
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCv7Ed7ETMM

Stress and How to Short-Circuit It with Amy Serin PhD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIsFxG6oydM

Why and How Consciousness Arises Mark Solms PhD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7WF5gzPG1k

Mark Solms, PhD: The Animal Within Us
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfqVIG9bejU

Feel free to ask any questions you have.

PS. Watch all the videos on Youtube that contain Bruce Ecker he explains this topic the best.

>>15924032
diagnostic: tier2 normie with meme depression
your kind is common on 4chan. no real way to fix yourself until you accept you're not special, but people of your type never accept they're not special

>>15924576
Ok will have to check the archive later today. Starting my day now. Take care fren. Good luck

>>15924590
>Starting my day now. Take care fren. Good luck
Have a good day fren

>>15923935
>>15923935
OP you remind me of me,

im very cold

but still i have a brown virgin gf.
im very cold with her but she cant leave me.

i give her just enough of whatever seh wants that she stays

she cooks cleans, gives blowjobs, etc.

she is very little maintenance.

i fuck other girls on side.

>>15924357
Some people here are autistic. Where others here I would describe as 'pure'. They would make great normies in a moral world, but they can't function normally in this clown world because they know participating in debauchery is wrong.

>>15923935
You've been ruined by porn. Quit watching it and jerking off.

all women are whores

Just b urself bro!


Unironically, quit jerking off and start lifting.

I'm the same OP. Do u find Lisa attractive at least?

>>15923935
doesn't matter about your social skills. If you've had girls flirt, it should come naturally to fuck them. If it doesn't, I would question your test levels.

>I dont feel attracted to them
It's deffinately worth checking testosterone levels. Order a test online, it's just a finger prick and you'll see where you stand.

If it's low, get on TRT. If it's normal, stop watching porn and masturbating so much (though I still think guys with normal T will be able to do both).

>>15924636
This is why OP is afraid of women. A lot of women are broken, they fuck the heads up of men, and make them broken and afraid too.

OP is afraid of getting his feelings hurt and being judged, as are many of us

>>15924636
>>15924916

Meant to say a lot of women become broken and bitter because of men too. See this anon

literally nothing matters. if you loose your virginity tomorrow or in 25 years or that you sudoko because of it in 3 months, or that you grow content to it and die a 95yr old virgin. no one cares about it or you in either of the cases. realize this and stare girls into their eyes when your outside next time and fuck them the same day and then you will make it

>>15923935
have sex

ITT

>>15923935
I would not pay for just sex.

But I would pay for sex with someone this hot.

Even if you look at sites like tryst, you just don't see people who look like this. Even the ones charging $1000/hour don't look much different from normal girls, they're just young and dressed up.

How the fuck do you find a prostitute so hot that it wouldn't be surprising if pictures of them get shared on image boards? I don't care if I have to pay them $2000 or $3000 or more - it's not about having sex, it's about having sex with someone whose hotness you'd probably never find them without looking for someone that hot, even if you were a 10/10 6'3'' chad.

Do any of you know how you'd find a hooker as hot as OP pic even if it cost a ridiculous amount of money?

I would pay $100k Lexi Vixi to have a whole night with her just for the experience of being with someone of such rare hotness.

>>15925035
you are part of the problem

Overmasturbation. I'm dead serious op. Even if you find a gf you will never bond strongly enough to display the care, desire and affection necessary for her to feel sufficiently emotionally validated. Get your overmasturbation sorted out and things will fall into place, I promise.

>>15923935
>chemistry
>not on the same wavelength
>no special spark
>it didn't click
>the vibes were off
>not feeling it
Women invented all that jazz. Don't fall for the ponzi.

>>15923935
me too. i have no idea how to even communicate with women. i just want sex. i don't want to spend days or weeks building up rapport with them. i just want in their bodies. but unless your a turbo chad you cant just ask women for sex when you first meet them unless you want the cops called on you. i seriously think my best bet (and the best choice for all incels) is to save up money for a trip to thailand.

>inb4 ladyboys
you can get real girls too they just cost a little more.

>>15923935
>/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>15925314
what is the point of business or finance if not to secure a vagina to fuck?

>>15923935
You're literally me and lucky for you, I already know myself perfectly.
You're basically this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizoid_personality_disorder and even if you were to go out, force yourself to enjoy social interaction and "fix" it, you'd still find it a huge chore deep inside and would keep reverting to being an introvert and not bothering with dumping your energy to keep uninteresting conversations alive. There's a reason why you're naturally drawn to this place, because most of us are exactly this as well. Think about it, you find this place attractive because it is the only place on the net where people aren't fake and you don't have to have an anti-virus running in your thought process to stop yourself from offending someone by your true beliefs. The reason for this is because all of us are like this and on some subconscious level, we understand that we're all like this so we respect each other's boundaries. These boundaries, for a schizoid, are ones where you do not enforce hugbox "welcoming" rules on me and I don't enforce them in turn because neither of us cares about being social or welcoming or even worse - to waste precious energy in being that, which explains why this place is so obsessed over separating itself from the "normies" and is so aggressive against every "newfag", but most importantly, why it's always counter-culture to the dominant culture that enforces a hugbox of some sort.

HOWEVER, if you still want to go down the path of a social normie even if you're naturally drawn against it, I'd recommend starting with RSD who're basically manipulative schizoids who "made it" and pretend that they're no longer schizoid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwoM04Hl0FI

>>15924675
based

>>15924916
well, not op, but i really don't care about getting "muh feewings" hurt. the risks to men for dealing with crazy women are, legal and financial trouble, and stds.

>>15923935
Bro, you're just schizoid. welcome to the club! ... and yes, this is also an shoutout to >>15925367
You can work you way around it though and sneak yourself into society, guys - look at me: I even got kids though being shizo. bad news is, that the bonding doen't become better. Just deal with it - life's cool regardless

>>15925035
shut up pajeet

>>15925367
pseudoscience

>>15925531
it's true the schizoid description reeks of XIX century psychiatry in that it's phenomenological in nature, but that doesn't make the personality type invalid, only the proposed causes.

>>15925599
across all of these made up illnesses, there is a personality type and corresponding diagnosis for everyone.

>>15925613
it's almost as if there are certain patterns to human personalities that can be repeatedly observed.

>>15925613
no dude, those are real. It's one of the major personality disorders and pretty well rearched and amzingly predictable. t.wife is a psychologist ... Do your homework, bro.

>>15925531
>>15925613
I didn't mean to say it as in "literally believe the whole SPD page", but rather as the cluster of personality traits that describe the majority of this website the best. As to whether modern psychiatry is pseudoscience or not, I too am leaning towards the former but you cannot deny that the core of what SPD implies, that there are people who are naturally apathetic to social life and are neither autistic nor psychopathic at the same time, is very real. Also agree that the name should be changed because it implies roots to schizophrenia when it has zero to do with it.

>>15925672
>>15925671
>>15925640

where is my literal bluepill then?

>>15923962
Virgin Incel
>I could have totally slept with a woman multiple times, I just chose not to, that's all.

>>15925691
bluepill literally is to not let this drag you down. You don't find comfort in people and relationships, feel best without having any friends and cut social activity to the very minimum. Well ... ok. So what's next? just don't bother and do things you like.

>>15925599
>>15925613
>>15925640

most mental disorders are a result of our modern lifestyles in the jew matrix

>>15923935
You sound like a Low T sōybōy.
Pin yourself in the thigh with 200 mg of Testosterone every week and stop drinking sōy lattes. You’ll get back on track.

>>15923962
If you felt nothing, you would have not given enough fucks to start this off-topic thread. You sir are a liar.

>>15925735
says who?
I don't mind spending time with one or two people that I like. Two is kind of pushing it.
I hate crowds. And by extension, every activity that most people want to do with me.
See now I have deviated from the SPD wikipedia page and I can assure you I have been on 4chan since at least 'queen boxxy'

>>15925746
this
op is doing some serious cope