/biz/ - Business & Finance

Buy KHC

YEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH

pretty big volume spike on that putcall ratio

Xth for long live to the last safe haven on /biz/. Fuck link hodlers.

>>15878488
anyone deal in CEFs? i'm looking for some global exposure, but nothing jumping out at me

Strongly suggest getting the fuck out of ATVI if you are riding it for a Blizzcon bump.

>>15878556
ATVI is fucking with my Nintendo, isn’t it? They’ve got that overwatch port.

Goddamn it.

I’m at $25k VOO $12k AMZN $12k GOOGL

$50k in cash, wut do?

>>15878556

>>15878556
REVOLUTION OF OUR TIME

>>15878571
put it all in VIX in anticipation of trade deal falling through

>he didn't buy SMIT

YOU
NEVER
LISTEN

>>15878556
B-But modern warfare comes out in like a month, and all the wow/overwatch/hearthstone tards are too addicted to quit over china shit that doesn't effect them.This will blow over in a week while ATVI continues to print money off of micro-transactions.

What do you guys think about NOK and ERIC?

>>15878619
>listening to a random frog poster on the internet
I'm pretty sure this worked out quite well for most people here

>>15878646

I have a 87% success rate at calling moonshots.

>>15878571
vix hedge isn't a bad idea. For longs, SBUX and MSFT. Put stop loss on SBUX a smidge below $83.60.

>>15878668
So?

>>15878681

I know how to make huge gains and you don't.

Stay poor. Like I said you guys never listen

>>15878619
I just went back through and no one said shit about SMIT

>>15878736
Don't you see the problem here?
From my perspective you sound just like any other faggot who's trying to sell his bags here and there's nothing you can do about it(except a trip and consistent call)pls don't

I'm not gonna start a thread to ask this so I'll just ask here.
Is there a biz archive? I wanna go back n see early biz

It’s so incredibly satisfying watching the options you sold just burn all the way down to a $0.01 ask with zero volume into expiration. Have to do this more often.

Don't even know what to do at this point except stop checking my portfolio for a year.

What the fuck is up with LCI. This shit really fucked up my short terms options. Shit should be $20 a share by now. I dont understand. Guess i will just keep holding...

>>15878757

>bags

lmao. I shilled SMIT here when it was in the 2.10's retard.

trips have always been and will always be the cancer of /rgt-rhg-smg/

>>15878488
Who else in /waiting room/ for tsla to get fucked after earnings on the 23rd? I see it going back down to $230 at least. They missed the numbers again on deliveries and gigafactory 3 is a no show. Trade talks failing with china will also fuck them.

>t.beargang

Hmmm, what do we call this pattern, /smg/?

>>15878798
Yeah, feeling real defeated atm, gonna have to learn how to trade. Watch some shill youtubers or something I don’t know.

Quitting when it becomes painful isn’t my style.

>>15878556
Why?

I don't feel nervous even though my puts for the month are down.

>>15878801
Theres no reason for it not to be at 18 at least. Why would you value a company less when it's more successful, and value it more when it's on the verge of bankruptcy.

>>15878803
>2.10's
Doesn't change anything

>>15878873

Aside from your entire claim

>>15878843
10/18 is next week. Those expensive puts have less time than I thought!

Buy signal on LULU. Going in nose first.

>>15878913
My calls all gonna expire too.

>>15878863
Does it really do that well?
Why would short interest still increase then?
$AAOI was surging 2 years ago from 10 to 100 while short int was 70%. Everybody was like wtf because they upped earnings forecast and everything and all of a sudden they were bankrupt. I haven't really read into lci but there might eventually be something which you can't know(but someone does).

>>15878863
>>15878801
A rotten core with a guise of potential
thats all im going to say

YOU SHOULD HAVE LISTEN.

>>15879016
>Listen to me because ....listen to me!!!
>>15878907
You two fit well together. Have fun with each other.

>>15878838
I'm just hoping everything pulls back up.

If I lost $800 in a day I can gain $800 in a day. That's what I keep telling myself.

>>15878863
>Theres no reason for it not to be at 18 at least.

Anyone still pimping NAKD?

Damn, my target for Apple is now 237. I hope some of you are long on this beast of a stock.

>>15879033
>>15879141
I try to make people MOOOONEY!

But, no one ever LISTENS!

now its going down

DOWN

DOWN

DOOOOOOOOOOOWN!!!!!!

>>15879219
Well i got 30 minutes. Tell me where to put $500 or so to make money

lmao @ that one guy who didn;t want me to wait to invest in marijuana.

>>15878793
Are you the fabled killer of stocks foretold by the prophecy?

>>15879219
Lci is going to kill on earning again though

Remember, on July 16th 2018 GORO was $7.33 per share! At that time Silver was $15.18/oz & today it's $17.615/oz and hit a high of $19.75/oz... At that time Gold was $1231.90/oz & today it's $1502.40/oz and hit a high of $1566.20/oz...Both are Huge Increases... PLUS: Gold going to $1661/oz++ & Silver to $21/oz++ Very Soon and then to $26++!
Don't you think GORO price should be Re-Rated to match the price GORO was at in July 2018? Should it not be re-rated due to the material increase in Gold and Silver Prices? What about the fact that in 2018 there was zero Nevada production & now Commercial Production has been achieved? Also the fact that the Nevada mine in Commercial Production will Double Gold production over the next few months and that in 2020 Revenue and Profits will more than Double! GORO Today should be Priced at $8.50+++ and in 2020 $14+++ Come on everyone, tell everyone you know before the whole move up is missed!
Increased Dividend to be announced! Coiled Spring!

>>15879314
tl;dr

>>15879330
Buy GORO because they have a new mine in commercial production

>>15879203
Just the CEO and his mom at this point

https://www.bizjournals.com/sanjose/news/2018/08/01/zest-labs-walmart-eden-lawsuit-trade-secrets-wmt.html

Thoughts on a walmart buyout?

SMIT $10 EOM

Fuck trump, fuck stock market gambling, fuck my life. Gonna take me a while to claw back from all the damage I’ve done this year.

Bought high and sold the bottom again today. And I Should’ve just DCAed down in MO, apparently.

>>15878964
How much are they down?

>>15879387
GEO abounding off the lower band... maybe if I go for divvies I won’t get my dick surgically inverted?

anybody getting JUSTd as hard as i am right now? JUST fuck my SHIT up

>US China Business Council: A Deal Is Coming (But It Will Be Small)
Oh man, when this deal gets announced tomorrow... prepare for a run. It doesn't matter if it's small or not, any sort of deal will look extremely bullish to investors/traders

>>15879455
OH SHIT IM A RETARD!!!

Ding ding ding! How did everyone do today? I'm down 1.35%, the ride just doesn't fucking end huh

Dude what the fuck happened to all my money

Fuxking HEXO god damn it fuck

>>15879479
I'm up 0.85%. Probably more but trading options on RH makes your total equity numbers wonky

>>15879479
+1%
should be more after we win the war on trade

I'm gonna be holding this fucking dude weed bag for 20 years now damn it

>>15879479
+0.41%

>>15879479
Fine if a little disappointing, just waiting on those ATVI puts to go wild

>>15879479
12% quick pump and dump on GHSI

>>15879479
:^(

>>15878571
Invest in something other than tech.

Is investing in companies that contain "Zion" in the name a good strategy?

>>15879504
What. Did it go up in smoke?

>>15879575
Zion Bancorp is a mormon bank not jew

>>15879586
Not sure what happened I was working all day, but it closed at 2.83 :(

Why does everyone make money but me

>>15879607
Heard something about low revenue. They blame it on the black market.

>>15879641
Learn the ropes

>>15879472
GEO is a global company and the feds will supersede the state. No way humans are going to stop imprisoning each other. I'm long. Buy the dip!

>>15879641
Buy GALT and LCI and then hang on, my negro.

>>15879691
Buy low sell low isn't working for me

>>15879711
I had lci at 6 then sold at 8 like a fucking idiot. watching it go all the way up to 15 killed me I would have made like 3 grand

>>15879711
God i hope so or i am gonna have to hang myself

>>15879641
Buy GORO. If you don't make money, I don't make money

>>15879691
How?

>>15879641
What have you been doing?

Afterhours golden bulle

>>15879931
first you lose some money thinking you're better than the market, then you join the passive index investor master race

>>15879479

Based AMRN.

>As Mnuchin left the talks Thursday, CNBC asked how the discussions went. He merely smiled.
Hmmmm...
Normally he’s talking up the markets based on nothing...

>>15880080
Because its gonna moon, brotha. And he knows.

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>>15880080
Keep in mind CNBC were the ones that first spread the news from the chinks that they were leaving early. I just can't trust anything from the media. But there's already rumors around at least a small deal which is why the markets pumped before the close.. so let's go!

>>15879479
Think solid tight. Finally out of the hole I was in this month. Nearly back to my all time high.

>>15879641
Buy companies in a long term rising trend. Focus on stuff that has little or no correlation with index movement. Utilities and gold are the last to drop when things get hairy. Stop betting on speculative stocks or at least decrease the percentage you do so with.

>>15879479
Up about 2%. I really did not expect a green day after last night's futures volatility. I figured mild red or flat after the china story turned out to be bogus. Pleasant surprise.

>>15880166
>CNBC were the ones that first spread the news from the chinks that they were leaving early. I just can't trust anything from the media.
It seems they didn't independently verify. Just rereported the chinese newspaper. Unfortunate for them. Incompetent.

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>>15879479
Up 6.32% today thanks to my AMRN calls and shares. If we can keep up this momentum for a while ill be a happy man.

>>15879525
What puts did u buy anon? I need to recover my 8% loss from weak hands this week.

>>15879999
Yeah baby. On the road to recovery. oh yeah.. Next stop the FDA ass kicking and the Holy Buyout!. Aside note: The Empire is strong as ever. Let that Fat Divvy Save you from the harsh realities of life when your 65.

>>15879479
Up about 3.6% overall as of after hours. TLRD is down quite a bit for the week, but that's only 300 shares, so it's more than offset by today's ODP gains. The success of my Robinhood portfolio really hinges on that company, which I feel good about.

TLRD I bought around $5 average, so I'm down quite a bit, but I'm thinking longer-term, as long as the management's incompetence doesn't drive the company into the ground, the stock should go back up by a lot eventually. I think I'm not going to even bother writing calls here. I'm just going to hold and see what happens.

>>15880804
Oh, annalist are saying Tech is gonna get slammed hard in dec due to Tariffs kicking in. If the Trade shit is still on and/or Trump is still in office by then.

>>15880856
>Trump is still in office by then.
He will be. The IMBEEEEECHment case is flimsy.

F U T U R E S

CVM

CERU [my nigga]

>>15880881
Flat as a 3000 year old animu girl.

Feeling kinda nervous guys. Several puts expire next week.

>>15880747
$45. Kind of risky, but the shitshow last year dropped them to $40, so a big China fuckup should get me there

>>15881042

Post more losses

I love seeing you retards who think you can time the market lose money on options

My ETSY has gone up good the past couple days and the China sit-rep has gotten me nervous. Should I sell and take my 5%, $1000 gain? I feel earnings will be good in a month regardless if I hold. I also have another 4k to buy more if I need it without having to sell.

For everyone wondering about LCI... it's just trading naturally... let the shorts pile in.. big tutes holding aren't letting go at these prices they've already shown they are holding at these levels

LCI to $60

>>15881421
who are you trying to convince

>>15881421
But you sold -_-

>>15881527
Get out of here if you're going to post with a negative attitude. We need to post positively about our investments. As long as we stay positive, how can our investments fail to prosper over the long run?

>>15881593
No, goy, I'm the one who sold.

>>15881596
Is this a sarcasm?

Sell AMTD or wait til 37?

>>15881616
Maybe delusion at worst. You do believe in the prudence of your investments and the power of positive thinking, don't you? You do believe in God, who hears our prayers and normally provides for our material needs, don't you?

>>15881647
>Ben Graham vs. The Secret

>>15881647
>the prudence of your investments
Yes.
>the power of positive thinking
No. All my investments are made on the basis of crippling fear.

>>15881593
I didn't sell... If i'm posting with this trip on it means i'm still in it

>>15881596
There are a couple people in this thread that just have to go against the grain on everything....

>>15881704
lol

Keep on selling Nintendo you jap queers. You’ll regret it.

>>158802
>>15878488

I got fucked hard on crypto. What are the safest stocks on Robinhood to put my money? I have some in vti right now but I want some more (((diversity)))

Rumor is PFE is gonna make a move on AMRN. It kinda fits. First that P.R person AMRN hired, Elizabeth, her claim to fame is that every bio company she worked for previously has gotten bought out. Her last gig was with PFE (PFE bought some company she worked for so.. yeah). Second, PFE is in the mist of a big reshuffle/re-org/spin off deal now. Lots of freed up cash. 3rd, the new focus of PFE is on new drugs as they come out. 4th. PFE's old cash cow Liptor has gotten old and "bargain binned" (aka shot). So they're on the hunt for a new cash cow. Yes they bought ARRY but far as I know the drugs they have are still in the works. So no pile of Cash coming outta them for a while.

>>15881615
Trip faaaaaaags!!!

>>15881822
you picked a great time to invest in the stock market

>>15881851
>Her last gig was with PFE (PFE bought some company she worked for so.. yeah)
Dude... you tell me this now?
I posted about that options action this morning expecting I missed the pump (CNBC always late to the party). If I’d have known that their new hire was pfe alum...

>>15881822
If you need to remake your account I am not sure I'll just throw out some names, if you need 150% gains I dunno sorry

Sleep Number seems interesting, its either overbought or might be about to do a ROKU, it only has a 24 million float, its looking for a good earnings and if Boomers buy these fucking beds it could get spicy

I think Macys has bottomed out, might be a safe buy and insane 10% dividend yield
Also Ford might bottomed out and nice 8.5% dividends

>>15881421

Get a fucking life

>there are people still posting in this thread that didn't buy Peter Lynch's house

Some people are just not going to make it.

https://www.conciergeauctions.com/auctions/27341-north-102nd-street-scottsdale-arizona
https://www.forbes.com/sites/amydobson/2019/01/10/peter-lynch-adds-2-million-worth-of-furniture-to-auction-of-scottsdale-home/

>>15882076
not really my taste
would much rather live in the mountains than the fucking desert

>>15882076
Let me know when David Lynch’s house goes on sale...

Hehe, I get by on a shitty 27k a year salary. My wife brings in about that much as well. But I've got a few things going in my favor. The col is cheap as hell. No debt (other than house). Cars (hers & mine) are paid off. The house is nice as are the cars. No shit rust buckets or a badly kept house. The things inside the house are nice to. The house is a 3 bed, 1 & 1/2 bath, garage, basement, nice rear deck, spacious yard. How'd I do it? By working my ass off and saving every spare dime. By not splurging on shit such as fast food 5 times a week. Now I did blow money on electronic shit in my 20's that I wish I didn't do now but that's life. It just goes to show that with a plan and with dedication you can end up with something nice down the road.

>>15882299

You do you bro.

Long on the S&P mini overnight is scary, especially with this Trump/China meeting going on. I have a pretty damn good position though and one single tick is $1.05, gonna sleep well tonight

>>15882408
$10.05*

>>15882299
This is me, except I put a copious amount of money in stocks and bonds
Also planning to buy land and build a house, not go take cuckdebt for one.

>>15882299
How do I get out of the funk of being frugal to the point of distress
For example I will go hungry all day so I can eat cheap at home rather than get lunch if I forgot to bring something.
I built a computer last year and still regret it because I could've made dividends with that money
I'm constantly doing early maintenance on my (paid off) car because if it doesn't hit 300k miles I'm gonna feel like I had an economic loss of that extra 100k miles, of course, never pay a mechanic
One time a guy asked me for a piece of gum and I negotiated with him to give only half a piece.

Fuck me /biz/ I FUDded and sold my TSLA, FB, MSFT, and AAPL to buy more SPY because it's a higher dividend yield and most of those are part of the S&P anyway.

I've got only 5mo in the game, did I fuck up?

>LCI 60 EOY
>BELIEVE DA PLAN
LCI cultists sound like stinky linkies

>>15882733
Selling Microsoft and Apple might have been a mistake. Tesla is.... gonna do whatever the fuck Tesla whales want it to do. I'm less bullish on Facebook.

>>15882589
>One time a guy asked me for a piece of gum and I negotiated with him to give only half a piece.
haha

>>15882733
Not really. You gained exposure to the broad market. Which helps if say the tech sector gets hit hard. The other sectors would defect that so your loss isn't as bad. Now if the whole market just shats your fucked no two ways about it. I'd keep what you got but add a few stocks for the Divvy income.

OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

Not Manassas!!

>>15883034
>good weekend weather
>those fucking numbers

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>>15882777
trips of truth lci fags eternally BTFO

Does anyone know what the fuck these jap bastards are selling Nintendo for? Is it this Blizzard/Activision shit? Should I be paying attention to this? It’s fucking up my VIAB too.

>>15883034

>>15883034
oh yeah dont worry about that

>>15882779
You saying we should buy calls on those two? Any reason why?

>>15882733
What caused said FUD?

>>15882779
You saying we should buy calls on those two? Any reason why?

>>15883448
sony wins again

>>15883578
I sure bout dah?

I swear to god futures have been green almost everyday for the past few weeks, but I’ve been getting dirty dogged literally every morning

>>15883448
They cucked to china and china is a hot topic this past 2 weeks. Everyone that has relationships with Tencent is feeling some type of burn.

>>15878830
Me

t.bull bagholder with an average of $225 if we dump again which we almost certainly will I might long on margin

>>15883734
I think I’m gonna uhhhh buy the dip then buddy.

But I don’t think that’s right. I haven’t seen Nintendo address HK.

>>15883761
I was thinking the same thing, don't have the available funds though but given Nintendo's trend and Christmas coming it looks like a decent bet

>>15883800
Just don’t buy any Xmas gifts, and buy NTDOY instead!

Tell them you bought a Star in their name. Or donated to the rainforest.
(I won’t even do that though dessssu. Lying is bad.)

>>15883034
trim the fat

M E L T U P
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>>15883800
Exposed slut at

https://imgur.com/BD2BH8Q

Mans

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>>15884033
fuck guys did they figure out how to spoof captcha

>tfw holding puts
bottoms up bros

Should I sell my put options at a loss?

>>15884269
But China deal is going to collapse because Trump can't do anything right.

>>15884324
I’m getting a spooky vibe... apparently there were smooth Brexit talks yesterday... and Mnuchin acting very uncharacteristically...

Though if he can’t pull something off, I think he might get shitcanned. trump did not love that weird thing that happened when the trade delegation was told not to visit the farmers.

(He seemed to get 2016 right...)

>>15884324
no no the only time i make money is to lose it all and then some so don't give me hope

>>15884269
you should have had an exit strategy before taking the trades

>>15884324
Gonna hold out as I don't want to sell the bottom especially when the talks can cause a big swing.

>>15884364
I partially suspect trade talks won't go well but can't say for sure.

>>15884392
The whole day trading regulations thing really limits exit strategies for gentiles

>>15884392
Still trying to develop a strategy on when to buy. Should set up a strategy for when I'm on the losing end however due to the market crabbing I didn't bother.

>>15883034
I wonder if NOVA's constantly shifting demographics have anything to do with bowling participation. What is bowling participation among whites versus East Asians versus Hindus versus Muslims versus Latin Americans (etc.)? Maybe the new Virginians just don't have the same fondness for bowling as the whiter population from past decades. Or maybe it really is just a broad trend.

>>15884269
LOL. What are the underlying stocks and what kind of percentage losses are those? Also, remember that Peter Lynch wisely said that options should be outlawed and options traders should be put to death.

>>15878488
>roads
Where we are going we don't need roads.

Next economical crisis, when?

>>15884526
Brexit

>>15882589
Sounds like you have the right idea. If you buy yourself lunch because you forgot to bring it, you're spending $5 on something that will be consumed and gone in minutes. That same $5 could spent on stocks instead. Every $5 would give you more than 2 and a half shares of Office Depot common stock. 7x$5 would yield you a T-baby. Don't disregard small things. It adds up.

My suggestion is that you should make a budget. I haven't been following a budget strictly myself, but I'm going to start trying to this month. If you stick to a budget, you can have an estimate of what your net income will be and therefore how much you have left over for saving or spending on discretionary items. If you have discretionary money budgeted for, and you know that you'll have enough savings to meet your goals without that discretionary money, then you don't have to feel bad every time you spend $0.05 on a stick of gum.

My current budget has some gray area about irregular expenses (e.g. medical bills, car service, clothing), but so far it at least covers all my regular bills and has a set grocery & household items limit.

Turns out, jp doesn’t care about things happening in japan if you don’t have relevant 2hus.

Schwab thought I should know about this though, maybe someone here can figure out what stocks to long/short off of this. Maybe it shows we don’t really need all that fancy Nvidia facial recognition tech and stuff.

I hope they can harness his autism for good.

>Police say he groped her near her place.

>>15882589
>>15884565
It's good to be stingy about our money. It's good to feel bad about wasting money. However, it's not good to be anxious about unavoidable expenses you can reasonably afford. And it's okay to spend money you can reasonably afford on discretionary things like gum. If you have a budget, you can feel confident that you know what your expenses are and that you can reasonably afford them.

>>15884589
I try so hard to save my money she invest. Then I just got two denied blood works totaling $800. I could have bought fun stuff with that money. Instead it is lost like tears in the rain.

Any ideas on that crude oil spike?

>>15884621
What thoughts? Iran tanker on fire likely because of a Saudi attack.
>>15884615
>She invest
I meant to invest

>>15884662
...Iran just samefagging itself
China might be getting out of sanctions, Iran looking like sanctions NEVER EVER coming off. They’re throwing a tantrum.

>>15881851
>Elizabeth
The same Elizabeth who’s been working for the for the past 7 years? Man you either lying or google is foreign concept to you. Anyway, they sell fish oil and already have a 5B cap.

>>15884615
Believe me, I know how that feels. I still have a hospital bill for my wife that I put on a 12-month payment plan (thankfully at 0% interest), and I have 9 months of payments left on that. But I know there's nothing I can reasonably do about it now except pay it, and save a little less in the meantime. It will be paid off in 9 months and we'll have some other things going our way by that time too.

>>15884695
Fish oil pretty much the only supplement that seems to get the seal of approval from most of the medical community. I guess vitamin D also sometimes.

If they could prescribe it and have their patients pick it up at the pharmacy and take it with their nitroglycerin... well why not?

Goodnight and good luck anons

>>15884565
>>15884589
Frugal bro here too, I completely agree with both of ya’ll. I started serously saving when I saw that all of my co-workers are in debt on bullshit they don’t need (newest high-end cell, flatscreen, gaming console etc), the funny thing is that they didn’t consider it serious debt, even though they paid like 1/3 of their salaries for the shit. The most common argument I’ve heard is ‘I’ll save later, when I pay this off’ and it only amounts to reality when its too late. Consumer credit should be banned, people would be considerably better with their money if all the ‘shortcuts’ would be gone.

>>15884750
>Fish oil pretty much the only supplement that seems to get the seal of approval
That’s the problem, even they sell a more refined and cheaper version of it, doesn’t mean it’s a unique product. There are already competition in that segment. And PFE or any other big stack would pay a huge wad only if a) unique product with high demand or b) meh product but with a good brand. I don’t think AMRN product fits in any of those categories (at least for now). Anyway, i might be wrong, it’s cheap to finance nowadays, so maybe paying around 7B is nothing special to them.

>>15879479
Up .38%

>>15884768
30% of my pay goes to mortgage,55-60% to stonks and the other 10-15% for errything else. Stocks are addicting.

>>15884753

Why the rally on talks? Trump would be foolish to accept anything the Chinese will offer. They will NEVER offer anything that is BETTER than what the tariffs offet. They're always trying smoothtalk but then turn around and cuck you, just like last time they promised to buy US agriproducts. The real game they are playing is trying to stall for the next election, trying to trick Trump in the meantime. Given the China-hawks in trumps cabinet, a deal is just very unlikely.

REFR

>>15885647

I really hope Trump tells the Chinks to fuck off, but knowing how obsessive he is about the stock market I'm doubtful.

If he had his fingers on the pulse though he should notice that the American public opinion is becoming more and more negative against the Chinese. The humanitarian excuse for a trade war is a winning one to justify it. MUH POOR MUSLIMS MUH POOR HONG KONGERS

>>15885722
good luck mr. REFR! do your best mr. REFR !

>>15885753
I'm down with that
I'm not overexposed to apple or any other Chinese companies. Well, except for BILI, but they are extremely powerful and immune to any trade war.

OK here's what they should do for extra hahas:
1.get china to agree to some kind of trade deal
2.tell china "FUCK OFF CHINA haha!"
3. have a press conference where they announce: "we got the Chinese to agree to a trade deal..." (by this point the algos have all flipped max long and bought everything) "... but fuck them, we told them to fuck off" (and then the market dumps back down hehe)

Basically no matter what happens I hope it causes massive market turmoil but no big moves. Because it keeps happening and it's more funny every time ;^)

>>15882777
INCREDIBLY BASED

>futes up 1%
>day off from work
>rpi4 arriving from amazon
>chicken breasts on sale at local shop

it's gonna be a good day bros

>>15882408
>>15882436
Waking up to this, gotta love Trump

Good morning guys, hopefully my morning begins in green

Buy cloudflare. Hold for 5 years. Screen cap this

Is it possible to trade options for huge profit without reading/mining the news or doing any fundamental analysis?

When the fuck is Uber going to rally?

Can you feel it frens? gonna be a green day!

>>15886342
Hey nice
Good job

>>15886437

When it starts making money

Oh fuck JNJ is pushing higher during the whites only trading hours. I'm going to be able to dump these call options for a profit.

>>15886433
HA HA STONKS

>>15886493
Hey I just read that a couple days ago
My favorite chapter and my two favorite characters 2bh

Who else is buying spy puts at open? Trade talk is hot air

>>15886663
Why would you buy SPY puts when Trump will be announcing that negotiations are going well this afternoon?

>>15886663
Sure it could be, but the chance is 50/50. Still a huge risk no matter what you do today.
It does look like we're getting a small deal, which MIGHT also disappoint the market fyi

>met a guy
>he got job at google
>they offer stock options
>250 shares over 4 years
>shares was $800 each when he joined

>>15886562
The owner is a cutie petutie and jahy does not bathe regularly.

>>15886663
Def not buying puts but I just sold my calls.

>>15886433
its a coin toss anyway so it makes no difference

My puts looking worse and worse ahhhhhh. Considering buying calls too offset my losses. Good or bad idea?

>>15886683
This
>>15886663
I bought calls earlier this week and now they are about to moon on open

>>15886751
>offsetting one decaying product with another
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

>>15886751
Depending on when they expire. Sometimes it's good to not do anything.

>>15886751
I have done that before. It won't completely offset losses, but its better than taking a full hit I suppose

>>15886748
How hard is it to build a system like the Medallion Fund? That's all technical analysis right?

>>15886803
>That's all technical analysis right?
No. they mix machine learning over huge data sets.

>>15886803
HFT / scalping pennies based on order flow. Not really TA

>>15886803
That data apis you need for that cost more than what your portfolio is worth. I think it's way more work that it's hard

Reminder to throw $50 at REFR since it bottomed

Those sweet sweet SPY calls

>>15886803
well well well

>>15886850
What is $REFR about?

>>15886765
Options have swung wildly the last two weeks.

>>15886767
10/18 & 10/25. Stock is acting resilient all of a sudden even though no trade deal would affect it bigly downwards. The last this happened with options I held a strong downturn turned what looked like a loss into a win. Really hoping those trade talks fail.

>>15886771
Considering buying calls cause the outcome of the trade deal will likely either cause a hard pump or a hard dump. Only problem is that it has been pumping for several days in a row.

>>15886811
Is that why each time I put in a sell call a bunch of other option for said price suddenly became available at the sane price as mine. Really annoying when they copy mine nearly instantaneous possibly quicker since by the time I get out of setting it up there were 20+ options selling the call option at the same price as me which I put slighly lower.

>>15886875
>he doesn't know companies trade against users choices

holy shit

Why me bros?

>>15886863

REFR is a SPD company thats been around for about 50 years. It's been down the past month from a 5.38 52 week high

http://smartglass.com

They are close to being profitable

QUOTE

$REFR Short position is 3M. My guess is they're taking advantage of the lower volume and trying to tank the chart.
Nothing has changed in what is happening in autoglass. We don't expect those revenues to hit until 2021, but the announcement of those OEMs who are ordering 30X the amount of all SPD in all applications will let us know we're heading to profitability and will become that royalty-collecting, dividend-paying machine, as CEO Harary stated in the last CC.

>>15886875
>Is that why
yes

>>15886863

Also I have a video that I can link that goes with this article

http://www.smartglass.com/news/material-science-company-gauzy-announces-second-factory-stuttgart-germany-produce-research-frontiers-spd-smart-light-control-film-smart-glass-industry/

>>15886875
>>15886811
Yeah you're right, I think they do some ultra low latency shit. How does this add value to the market lol...?

GO ON SNKRS APP
TRY TO BUY THIS
SELL IT BACK TO NIGGERS FOR
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
20minutes to enter raffle on Nike SNKRS app

>>15886884
Thanks. Will look into it.

>>15886884
It looks promising will I be able to IMAGINE THE SMELL finally?

>>15886883
you bet against america and lost. you get nothing.

>>15886897
>How does this add value to the market lol...?
they'll say it adds liquidity, but the reality is that it's just their business model. it's why exchanges like IEX were created.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEX

>>15886924
Yeah it looks like it's just to fleece the average person and/or prevent themeselves from getting fleeced by other companies.

Quick /smg/ IQ check

You do agree that the western world is headed for a potentially massive recession sometime within the next couple years, yes?

WE GOT TOO COCKY GOLDBROS

Well i have no idea if i should buy calls or puts. It started high but seems flat. Part of me is saying to go in heavily on puts considering the strong rally it's had for day and the looming recession/depression. Part of me thinks do calls if they can rally this much on just a little hype then if a trade deal comes out they'll probably rally even harder.

>>15886909
USE PAYPAL FOR FAST/EASY PAYMENT
I’ll try to post these here from now on, i make good side money on this stuff when lucky

August was fun

> mfw AMD

I wonder how the Q3 earnings report is going to look like next friday. They obviously have problems delivering high end chiplets for the 3900X and the postponed 3950X, but the rest of the Ryzen 3000 is selling like hotcakes.

The interesting part is whether the reason for the shortage of quality chiplets is either shitty yields or sky-high demand on the server market. I hope it's the latter.

>>15886990
>posts it for the 100th time
stop living in the past faggot

Dennis Gartman stopped out from his S&P short after calling for people to short it. What a fucking retard

>>15887002
t-t-t-tight s-stop losses b-b-ro

>>15886962
>recession
balkanization ftfy

>>15887018
>Talk Meeting
Well hopefully they make a deal...

guys what do I do I have 8k to invest I've been waiting for a dip is it even going to happen? I was just thinking of putting it into an S&P500 index tracker would that be retarded at this point?

>>15887018
Nothing will happen

>>15887029
>I've been waiting for a dip
you've ignored every dip friend, because you thought it was going lower. the market gave us a 20% drop at the beginning of the year. it's time to start being honest with yourself, you pussy.

>>15887043
no honestly I've been waiting for like 4 weeks, I just got the money I didn't have it early this year. But everyone keeps saying muh trade war and I'm too scared.

>>15887029
Index funds can lose money if your time horizon is not right. Find a decent, low cost fund and put your money in there and forget about it. If you want to become rich, invest in yourself and get a better job. Start a company and grow it.

Is it good or bad when they cut or raise interest rates?

Oh shit, Trump deployed the market pump tweet, here we go. That poor bastard who bought puts is about to get fucked

What the fuck is going on

>>15887029
youre a fucking retard as >>15887043 said but if you put it into SPY and a trade deal is reached, youll make some dosh
if trump fucks up the trade deal, youll lose some dosh

if you want to yolo a stock inside the tradewar you can go all in on Ford (F) which is trading a lot lower these days because of the tradewar, among other reasons.

>>15887065
Depends

>>15886962
Yeah and it doesn't matter what happens with the trade deal. Even a "good" deal is only a quick bandaid to prop up the markets until the election. New ATHs are the eye of the storm

>>15887029

Invest in REFR

Sold a put that expires next week. I was the low seller for today ahhhhh

Apple new ATH. Gratz on the profits, I know at least 2 guys here went long during the dip and had profit targets up here.

>>15886962
Yes, who knows when, but this inflation fueled stock prices are not representative of true economic growth.

>>15887018
I've already set my trailing stop and enjoy the gains while I can. Absolutely nothing will come out of this.

The onyl question is whether or not he makes the tweet of doom before or after the market closes.

Today seems like a good day to sell some TQQQ and wait to buy more at the next dip

>>15887092
Reee sold a different option i was the low again ahhhhhhhh why cant i do this right!!!!?

So, when are we getting the recession cash would like to buy a bit of Google or Apple on the cheap

>>15887108
Starting to think i jist stupidly closed my puts at the worst possible time for a measly $120 after paying like $300 for each. On the off chance nothing happens or is a small deal this will dump. Im getting the vibe i should only sell a few and keep the other galf in case to recoup losses.

It's funny how I'm consistently fucked on short time frames when my order goes through interactive brokers ibkrats and I'm magically right when my orders are routed through dark pools.. thieves

>>15887121
Like we said, when media shills about recession.. then buy, buy, buy.

S&P pumping over basedbeans... I guess it’s time to start calling them edamame with my pinky out

>GME
What is fuck is wrong with this thing?
I know about the share structure thing but wtf man?

WHY WON'T IT GO DOWN

>HEXO
>KAYS
O baby

My precious RAD shares will get called away today, thanks for the premiums fren

>>15887018
>Vice Chink comes into office
>Trump looks up from his burrito bowl from Quadoba
>Vice opens his mouth to greet the president
>”Numba wan”
>Vince chink, “Excuse me?”
>”NUMBA WAN”, Trump repeats ”TAIWAN NUMBA WAN”
>VC turning red with fury starts to fire off all the ching chongs and bing bongs in his insect language
>”TIAWAN NUMBA WAN”
Idk how to finish the story

>>15887166
because this market wants higher

>>15887182
I don't think Trump talks directly to the chinks they probably disgust him

>>15887166
>tfw your stocks go up

>>15887172
https://youtu.be/rnWXN8m6drc

>>15887172
The weed business is a disaster, imagine thinking growing a high regulated highly taxed plant in a seemingly commodity market is a good business

Also, Im guessing when regulations mature a lot of people will just grow their own.

I GOT A WIN ON THE NIKES
fucking 1000 shoe for 250

>>15887156
It's low enough where it refuses to dump as easily even though it logically looks like it will go bankrupt in 10 years or less. Risky stock to be holding in my opinion.

>>15887182
>Trump looks up from his Panda Express
>He squints at the vice chink as he holds a chopstick in two hands and suddenly snaps it in half >"ORUGAMI...TOSHIBAAAAAAAAÀAAA"
>vice chink sneers and turns around to leave without saying a word
>Trump continues "KATAMARI KUNG PAO PING PONG MATCHA TRADU DEALU NAO"

>>15887166
If you don't know what the catalyst for the crash will be then the crash probably isn't happening yet.

Only high interest rates will bring about the crash imo. But it seems we're at permanently low ones. It will never go up. Everything will just be inflated forever.

IM NOT FUCKING SELLING

Is there an sec fee for selling options? I know they charge 0.000119 per stock sold and round it up to a full penny. Just cant seem to find info on whether this applies to options.

>>15887269
Don't get greedy. That is how you get your account killed especially with options.

>>15887166
i have a feeling it will soon dump, momentum is dying

>>15887269
Fucking this >>15887289

You're up 185.5% - greed is good, but not taking that kind money is retarded. What kind of money do you expect to actually sell?

Who here trimming hogs? Stacking cash for the december lolocaust

AHHHHHHHHH Swchab is fucking me over right now.

>>15887269
fucking based retard

>>15887289
>>15887311
It's a leveraged trade, I have my stop loss ready in fat profit either way.

Based chink media shill:
>"Situation of the trade talks seems to be better than the media expectations. Let's see how the following talks will be going."

>>15887018
>China Trade Talk Meeting
Why is Trump faking a Chinese accent now?

>>15887299
Just a slower move up.
Brexit good news
Trump tweet good news
Trade deals good news

Short covering. Lol

You are granted access to Trump's Twitter to tweet one time. What do you say?

Who AMRN here.

>>15887388
>I think chainlink SUCKS

>>15887388
Reply to this post or your mother will die in her sleep tonight

>>15887388
LCI to $60 :)

>>15887388
JET FUEL CAN'T MELT STEEL BEAMS. SAD

>>15887367
What good Brexit news happened?

>>15887388
Eric Holder lied Paul Walker died.

>>15887388
Interest rates are now 1000%.

>>15887399
>>15887388
Dubs confirm
Pajeets eternally btfo

>>15887388
FUCK CHINA FUCK PELOSI FUCK MEXICO AND FUCK CALIFORNIA

>>15887388
NIGGER

Well I wish I never got into trading. Currently down a few thousand closed some options at a 2/3 loss. Some options are further out (a month or more) so once those are likely back at breakeven before expiry, hopefully, I'll probably close them and just stay away. Could be a small loss if market dumps and I close those options. Should've just stopped when I made all my money back the other week. Not sure what I'm gonna do if my parents ask me how I've been doing on the stock market.

>>15887388
“Only thing worse than stinky linkies is stinky chinkies”
Right after trump leaves the successful trade talks.

>>15887440
its best not to mess around with options until you are experienced

gl

>>15887440
Have you considered actually just investing money and not fucking around with options?

>>15887353
Cool man. Hope you get a huge profit. Make sure you adjust your stop loss.

>>15886962
100% going down in flames, only question is how long it can be staved off. Even during 2008, WHILE shit was happening, execs and politicians were denying everything and lying as long as they could

>>15887311
>You're up 185.5% - greed is good, but not taking that kind money is retarded. What kind of money do you expect to actually sell?

500%

>>15887402
What

>>15886962
Don't worry everyone here knows it's coming, but why not make a few juicy bucks off of the volatility in the meantime

NAKD mooning

I dont feel too good anons. My mind exacerbates my negative emotions into a physical ailment. I need to go get distracted.

>>15887480
I was buying stocks but once I realized a recession or depression is likely occuring soon I backed out and was trying to deal with options instead. Refer to >>15887493, this is why I have no interest in buying stocks at the moment.

>>15887289
>>15887311
>>15887333
what is a good percentage to sell at?

>>15887523
>Don't worry everyone here knows it's coming, but why not make a few juicy bucks off of the volatility and stockpile your gains in the form of Chainlink tokens in the meantime
ftfy

>>15887531

>>15887538
I would take the profit now or set up a trailing stop at least at +150% up. Sure, it could rise higher, but you could also lose out on lots of money.

>>15887558
i'm not him, but I'm just curious. in general what percentage should I sell at

>>15887538
i'm not gonna tell another nigga how to manage their money, but i'd probably take a 1/3 off and set a stop for the rest or another tranche

it sucks giving back money

>>15887440
Bruh.
I've been doing this for a couple of years, sitting on some nice gains mostly from swing trading TQQQ - it's guaranteed money.
I don't fuck with options, you clearly shouldn't fuck with options either.
Keep it simple.

>>15887562
Depends alot on the stock or whatever you're owning. Anything green is always good.

>>15887537
>I was buying stocks but once I realized a recession or depression is likely occuring soon
unironically bullish

>>15887537
bro, there's no depression coming MAYBE a light "recession" but i don't really see anything

business is booming right now really

It’s losing steam. Pullback and closing rally?

>>15887537
What kind of physical ailment? Curious because years ago I worked a very stressful trading job and would get chest pains and pressure that felt like a heart attack. Later found it was all caused by stress

>>15887608
"it" what?

Fed just announced the repo operations are now to be extended out to January 2020

>>15887367
yeah on longer time frames it's lit...golden bull may be here for good now

Hey /smg/, shill me some stocks to make a quick buck off the stupid rally today

>>15887631

NEW

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>>15887642

NEW

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>>15887388
His name was Seth Rich @hillaryclinton

The fuck are these giant market sell red candles on LCI?

>>15887648

>>15887648

>>15887648

NEW BREADY BREAD

>>15887648

>>15887648

>>15887648

>>15887657
too late
here is the thread:

>>15887642

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>>15887642

Damn thank you orange cheeto blimp