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>err...ummm... so... i know this isn't relevant to the talk but... while you're here and answering to me... umm what do you guys about huh... oracles? hehe... cuz i'm the oracle king... so maybe you'll say something nice about me that'll validate chainlink... vitalik.... senpai will you finally notice me......
>well i think oracles are useless and not needed and chainlink sucks basically, i wanna go home and solve mathematical equations and play wow
>well yeah... but... i make oracles so thats my entire life project...
>YOU DONT NEED ORACLES OKAY??? YOU FAT FUCKING RETARD
>....umm... m-makes sense... sir vitalik.... makes sense... fundamentally...

why does the skelly hate the belly so much? holy shit. this question was literally the only reason sirgay PAID to SPONSOR the event, just so he could host a general boring talk about blockchain, and casually slip in a question about oracles to vitalik hoping to get positive feedback, and vitalik just blew him the FUCK out, he despises sirgay so much, every fucking time they interact together it's always so weird

https://youtu.be/FdiJCvYfVHQ?t=2042

>> No.15819520

>>15819511
Because
1) you don't need an oracle
2) you don't need another token
3) you don't need another scam

>> No.15819591

UwU sergers is so cute

>> No.15819923

Sergeys gonna solve the real problem and leave writing blockchain execution engines for lesser autists.

Skelly knows it and is hands full with eth2.

>> No.15819933

>>15819520
Imagine being so stupid that you don’t understand this and put money in Chainlink.

>> No.15819940

>>15819511
Because you don't need Ethereum either. By the looks of things, companies are going with private blockchains, not Ethereum.

>> No.15819946

>>15819933
Imagine not buying link for the two years we told you about it then fomoing at $4 and losing money.
Actually you probably don't have to imagine.

>> No.15819967
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15819967

>>15819511
see this https://twitter.com/channelroute/status/1179885438078767104

he's "technically" right you don't need an oracle, but you have to look at the context. he's not talking about off chain data or any of link's main use cases. he's just super autistic and pedantic.

>> No.15819968

>>15819940
If only you understood how it all works.

>> No.15820077

>>15819967
Yeah, it’s a petty gibe by vitalik—I’m not sure if he’s always brazenly rude like that. It is clear he dislikes Chainlink’s attempt to attract corporate/establishment users to ethereum

>> No.15820103

>>15819511
two scammers talking to each other. wow, who cares? you idiots are wasting your time thinking about these vaporware projects. Buy Bitcoin and nothing else. Dont get fooled by this obvious buzzword bullshit.

>> No.15820129

>>15819968
what?

>> No.15820138

You gotta understand Vitalik didn’t want ether win to become a vehicle for decentralized finance and DeFi alone.... he believed in a world computer. Now DeFi is all their is to blockchain currently and supply chain management. It’s all business. Not exactly what Vitalik wanted

>> No.15820752

>>15819511
Vitalik got angry because he recognized Sergey is trying to use him to pump up his scam, that's all it was.
it's beyond obvious to anyone technically proficient that chainlink is a shit solution with a worthless and pointless token.

>> No.15820828

>>15819511
Holy fuck that panel was excruciating. It does give me some comfort to know why skelly hates stinklink so much.

>> No.15821744

>>15819967
Fucking this. Vitalik is only thinking about cross-chain communication. You don't need an oracle; you only need to implement consensus between the two chains. This makes all the blockchain interoperability focused chains worthless. However, he's not considering external data which exists off of any chain. There's simply no other way to get that data but through an oracle.

>> No.15821796

>>15820138
vitalik is retarded and should work on holochain, that would fit this communist better.
DLTs and link will send us in the final phase of capitalism, before everything implode, and vitalik will have contributed to this. thanks skelly faggot.
You can see skelly doesn't feel good of being the main face of smart-contracts platforms in general because he knows this is all going to happen. He is slowly detaching from ethereum, the biggest scam in history. He doesn't feel good at all. He knows he's fucked

>> No.15821966

Vitalik wanted to be the king of crypto and knows Sergey Is going to usurp him full force

>> No.15821974
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15821974

>>15819511
This. I'm a tcp ip developer at a fortune 50 big data company with 25 years experience in database infosec, I've looked into chainlink and all I can tell you if that the cryptographic measures implemented in regards to the decentralized security paradigm in the API and IoT structure of chainlink's github code is fundamentally flawed after the Pivotal tracker server crashed due to the core attacks on the network enabled by its corrupt data inputs and outputs, what this really means is that by attempting to solve the oracle sybil resistance issue it instead allows customers to bypass the encrypted hardware and even hack into the smart contract Intel SGX mainframe, unless they manage to increase the signatures and scalable nodes, which isn't likely considering the Google backend isn't compatible with the legacy JSON systems and Solidity language from the EVM in the Truffle stacks, that's why the ic3 and SWIFT engineering teams developed the ISO 20220 standards but it's centralized and susceptible to the 51% front running program so yeah basically Sergey didn't foresee that the enterprise customers and cloud blockchain dapps would never allow their protocols to rely on these permissioned host mechanisms thus rendering the LINK ERC 677 token obsolete and no serious developer would consider DLT technology in these conditions, sorry linkies I'm just telling it how it is.

>> No.15822020

>>15819940
Companies go with private blockchains because of the privacy aspect. The advantages gained through decentralization grow through the network effect, I.e the larger the network, the more benefits gained through security. If you can solve the issue of sending private data without a single node being able to view that data, a lot more of the market share would flow out of private blockchains into public ones.

Good thing there are people infinitely smarter then you and I working on these problems.