/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>15814951

seems like recession comin.

based thread

>>15814951
>>15814954
>>15814961
>>15814973
>>15814988
The bear will leave his cage forever
It will happen when the weather cools

Forgot my favorite one

The sooner it comes the sooner im out of the negative i have a bunch of puts options.

>>15815083

I notice a bunch of retards about to lose money on puts for the millionth time

Heres a crazy idea for the leaders of the world, instead of trying to create endless perpetual growth, why not prepare for when a recession hits BEFORE IT HAPPENS instead of denying its happening and trying to prolong the inevitable.
>Inb4 you never know when a recession is going to hit HURR DURR
fuck off you spud cunt, there are always indicators.

>>15815149
Pretty much everyone is in agreement that we're headed for a recession. But not RIGHT NOW. Many of these indicators (like the yield curve) typically occur 6-18 months before actual retraction.

In fact I expect the stock market will actually expand further later this year and into next year. More rate cuts, full-on QE4, and muh strong consumer spending this upcoming holiday season. Then multiple band-aids from Trump as the election approaches. He'll say things like "just had a very good talk with China/Iran/EU/etc, I think we'll make a very good deal!" to keep it floating. I even expect Dow to reach ATH again.

But get out by late next year. Metals, muni bonds, crypto, whatever, just shift at least 80% away from equities

>>15815252
If everyone expects it to happen 6 months from now, it will happen now.

>>15815632
December 2018 jerk store called, it wants you back

>>15815632
it'll happen in a year. massive post election dump. that's when everyone will least expect it, and will be making arguments like "well the sideways movement in 2018 and 2019 was effectively the recession, now that that consolidation period is over we'll move to new highs"

>>15815632

Wrong. Unexpected crashes are not... Expected. Market has never crashed after a calendar year of single digit gains.

>>15815647
>>15815648
>>15815690
Happening this month pussies. Get ready now or get fucked

>>15815745
why you think so

>>15815749
always happens in October + the owners of the federal reserve don’t want trump to have a second term

All this recession/crash/collapse talk is the equivalent of the shoe-shine boy giving stock tips in the 30s and the cab driver giving them in the 90s.
When the masses talk about it do the opposite.
Any dip/down turn will be temporary (like it ALWAYS is)then when Trump wins the trade war with China watch the economy soar like it never has.

>>15815777
L o l

dailies reminder, there will no recession the jews has solved the red candle problem

>>15815866
has recession finally been debunked?

>>15815866
just sold 100k jews thanks

>>15815014
>i thought this was about Russia

Oh fuggggggg

>>15815891
can short jews? wait they are already short

>>15815032
I cannot see how this can possibly end well

>>15815032
>>15816035
It's damn frightening.

>>15815755
Why don’t they want Zion don to have a 2nd term?

>>15815197
This is the most retarded thing i've ever read on /biz/

>>15816035
It will end with civil war in the west and the Balkanization of the United States.

>>15816077
It's an opportunity like you will never see again. There is nothing frightening about this, it's making me COOM

>>15816082
The true answer is too sophisticated for 4chan: the answer is the owners are jews...but atheist Ashkenazi jews. They dont give a shit about Israel, all they care about is creating a one world socialist utopia

Religious Jews are pro trump, atheist Jews are against

>>15816093
It's not. This is exactly what Norway have done for years with their Sovereign Wealth Fund

>>15816100
One of the few times it's good to live in California, if it was a separate nation it would be ranked #5 in the world in terms of GDP

>>15816118
wow. lmao

>>15816107
How exactly? If you mean by shorting, good fucking luck trying to guess exactly when it happens

>>15814951
opie, do you think, prior to a market crash, that this will cause a spike in inflation, leading to a run in commodities like we saw in 06-07? or will commodities crash alongside the market this time a la the dotcom bubble?

>>15816131
Yep yuropoors are retards. The fund has mostly been used to pay state guaranteed Boomer pensions.

>>15816144
I’m all in silver.

>>15816110
This is blue pilled. I’ve read the Talmud and it specifically states that it is okay to be non religious or atheist.

The Talmud only has a problem with a Jew whom wishes to renounce his Jewry and not identify as a Jew. The most important thing to the Jewish people is racial identity. To work as a tribal group for the collective interest of world domination.

Anything is permitted as per Talmudic law so long as it’s for Jewish agenda. Lying, stealing, raping, blood libel, promotion of porn, homosexuality, feminism. Literally anything. Anything that weakens the jews enemies and/or gives Jews more power is taught as being the greatest of virtues and that Jews depend on doing these things in order to survive, otherwise the evil oppressive goyim who have supposedly genocided/exiled them for no good reasons at all throughout history will wipe the Jews off the face of the Earth.

>>15815252
The thing is it normally needs a trigger of some kind to get it started.

>>15816191
still more interested in platinum desu
no position

>>15815647
"They're running out of you"

is how it goes

>>15816206
Dude shit the fuck up. How many Jews do you know IRL? I grew up with BILLIONAIRE Jews + I’ve been to Israel. You have no fucking clue what the fuck you’re talking about, all your bullshit is theoretical

The truth is most Ashkenazi jews are the scheming fagfots they are because they are ugly as fuck + genetic intelligence. This video is the redpill, most of 4chan is just angry incels who dont interact with Jews on a daily basis and looking for a reason why Tyrone outstays them. Even though I’m also anti-Semitic The truth is more complex than you crayon eating retards understand
https://youtu.be/hm2kU_SG57w

>>15816250
Jews are also taught that lying is great virtue and to keep goyim deceived about their tribe and their tribes global power/influence.

Sry JIDF. Your efforts are futile people are waking up to your satanist cult.

>>15816206
jews are pretty fiercely competitive with each other too tho m8
yeah theres some really powerful cliques. same with most large and powerful families/dynasties internationally.
hassids are the only ones who read the talmud nowadays and theyre hardly pulling the strings on the whole world. most of em are welfare lol.
ashki are mostly secular. judaism itself, as a religion, race and culture, is splintered in a variety of ways, and most of them dislike each other

>>15816296
I’m *technically* a Jew because my mothers mothers mother was a Jew, but I see the reality of what’s going on.

I’m still highly anti-Semitic but for more nuanced reasons than 4chan

>>15816306
Jews have a common racial goal of destroying all their enemies and ensuring their global rule. Sure some Jews may be competetive with each other but it is friendly competition on whom can be the best Jew or when it comes to dividing the loot that they have stolen from their host nation.

Under no circumstance will any Jew be against a Jew whom speaks out against their global mafia. Bobby fisher is an example of this.

Bottom line is they hate us and want to rule the world while never having to perform any Manuel labour and have 1000 slaves each. They control everything and are doing everything they can to destroy white countries by their non stop promotion of degeneracy and mass migration.

You are a retard Jew and kill yourself. The gig is up. Tell JIDF to stop trying to fight. You only are making more people aware of your tribes wickedness

>>15816327
>my mothers, mother, mother was a Jew.

You mean your great grandma? You try and make it seem like you are so distant from being Jew. You seem to forget who you are dealing with here bub. Play stupid all you want but jews are matrilineal. What ever comes out a Jewish twat is a full Jew. So if your great grandma was a Jew and she had a kid (your grandma) that kid would be 100% Jew and so would her child (you mom) and so would YOU!

Gas yourself! You think you are so clever but you are extremely easy to spot.

>>15815197
Preparing for recession causes recessions

>>15816407
That's a bit much, my man.
Non-jew here.

>>15816434
Your NPC opinion doesn’t matter. Jews are matrilineal and that is truth.

>>15816407
Yes, my great grandma who died before I was born you fucking idiot

I was baptized orthodox Christian. No one I grew up with taught me anything about Judaism

>>15816434
This, I’m anti-jew

>>15816369
>Jews have a common racial goal of destroying all their enemies and ensuring their global rule
you could say this about literally any race from all throughout time, and youd be just as half-right as you are now

>anglos have a common racial goal of destroying all their enemies and ensuring their global rule
>germans have a common racial goal of destroying all their enemies and ensuring their global rule
>gauls have a common racial goal of destroying all their enemies and ensuring their global rule
>persians have a common racial goal of destroying all their enemies and ensuring their global rule
>arabs have a common racial goal of destroying all their enemies and ensuring their global rule
>chinese have a common racial goal of destroying all their enemies and ensuring their global rule

you see racial blocks in entire countries, but fail to see how each is broken up into smaller tribes that may/may not mix well at all, or sometimes are outright confrontational with one another

what matters is dynasties
its these ancient families that have intermarried together for millennia that hold much of the power today, but to imply that all ashkenazi fall under this is silly and shows you have little experience with them outside of nu/pol/-tier infographs.
worse, you give yourself tunnel vision by focusing only on jewish dynasties while ignoring the extremely powerful chinese and anglo ones that are just as much of a detriment to the common man

>>15815083
ok anon what does this mean for us brainlets? Buy crypto? Buy ammo? Buy both?

>>15816547
lrn2tradetreasuryspreads?

>>15816110
>Religious Jews are pro trump

>>15816564
ive definitely met some orthodox jews that dug trump
zionists in particular love the goy

>>15816564
Except they are you absolute fucking autistic mouthbrrsthing sperg

Who gave Israel more aid? Trump or obama?

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>>15816582
don't bother, the world communism anti Israel jews are dominant in JIDF

>>15816582
exactly

>>15816609
again, you see jews as one homogeneous block
they are arguably one of the furthest from this (gypsies aside). they were scattered all the fuck over europe, asia and africa for centuries due to jewwing too hard in any one particular area and being driven out. only because of israel and its "birthright" policy do we see many of these various groups finally under one roof.

for example, where do arab israelis fit in your world view?
or were you aware they existed?

>>15814951
Mostly, that those red dots are drawn completely arbitrarily, and that neither graph accounts for inflation.

>>15814954
That CEO confidence is a pretty poor predictor of a recession

>>15814961
absolutely meaningless

>>15814973
bullish.

>>15814988
I don't really remember how 2015 - 2017 were for stocks. Does it resemble what it looks like not?

Go short if you want, or sit out the markets, but you're literally fantasizing. You're dreaming of a crash. And you're seeing only what you want to see.

>>15816110
>recession happens: it was the jews
>recession doesn't happen: it was the jews
lmao you fucks are hilarious

>>15816547
Both

>>15816647
>>15816110
>Religious Jews are pro trump, atheist Jews are against
You're at least half wrong. Look up the voting statistics.

Orthodox Jews voted like 60% for Hillary. Non-Orthodox Jews voted like 90% for Hillary. There's a gap, but religious Jews are still mostly Democrats.

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>>15816206
Where to get uncensored Talmud copy?

>>15815014
The solar minimum will rekt the economies bobo , but not bitcoin , bitcoin is pure energy and will be safe from you with mumus blessings.

>>15815777
Checked, the problem is none of them realize whats happening and just how bad its going to be. I agree with you 100%, I have been preparing my Fund for this bubble collapse since the warning signs flashed in 2016, suddenly within the last 2 months every zoomer is an expert on the condition of banking in the US and smirking at me telling me its all gonna come crashing down and yang will win, as if somehow being fluent in finance is a mark of retardation to them.

And you know what, they're right this time. Not because they are smart or because it happens like they think it will, but because we are at a crossroads both economically and politically where the broken clock is right. We as the fucking geniuses we are on this website can see why that is, we see cryptos long involvement with government and the banking sector, we see Jewish legacy banking, we can see the political motivations behind most economic policy, we can see why the boomers are going to get absolutely blasted. We know exactly where its heading and why, but at the end of the day whats going to happen is its going to come crashing down, there will be hoards of boomers being paid out in USD shitcoin thats hyperinflating, and there will be a gang of retarded normies that will vote for whoever promises free money to relieve their pains first. Most likely a communist who just renames the FED to sound less banky and raises taxes to spend on police forces.

So your right, everybody's talking about it, but you know what thats because they literally cannot be wrong. I dont think we could even squeeze one more cycle out of it, looking at literally every indicator including many of the ones OP posted, one extra cycle in this system would be a fucking miracle heralded on the level of george fucking washington, and all that miracle making for what, an extra 6-12 years so the tail end boomers can enjoy their retirement without upsetting the "middle class" white america paradigm we have going on?

>>15817751
It's going to be bad, OP's first picture is literally the most poignant picture ever to explain this. There is no such thing as a free lunch, debt is fine when utilized correctly but there is no way to bolster unsustainable levels of debt into fundamental progress.

There will be old people going homeless, do you really think younger generations are going to continue taking care of grandparents that consistently berate them for not following the morals their grandparents held, berating them for voting for the wrong people, an older generation completely enamored with themselves that will be telling the 20 somethings with law degrees and IT degrees 20k in debt that they have to go compete with all these mexicans for hard labor jobs to so that way grannies social security wont hyper inflate? All because the labor market broke down at the same time automation got huge? Literally the only reason it worked in japan for so long is because japan had america and europe to carry the weight, now that America and europe are going to fucking shit whos gonna carry them? Absolutely nobody, and once again thats why this media cycle is the broken clock that's right, yes it will crash, what they are wrong about is just how fucking bad its going to be. Debt inflates everything. Everything.

The initial reaction will be communism yes, the boomers will be scapegoated even though they are just as fucking stupid, and people wilk willingly emmigrate back to south america for mostly political and social reasons but largely because economic immigration will stop being a thing.

Long term the world is going to become insanely anarchist capitalistic. We don't need a central government anynore. They cant make people pay taxes anymore. If your paying taxes in 2019 and have your own capital production, your a fucking sucker. We have all the tools necessary for a man to produce value for society without ever once interacting with it.

I lost eye watering, face meltingly huge amounts of money shorting the SP500 all throughout 2019, and /biz/ was 100% convinced the nation was on the brink of a financial meltdown and for some reason I was convinced by these arguments. Then I got my head on straight, listened boomer advice and have been making steady gains just by holding SPY.

Paying any attention to /biz/ fud regarding the macro economy was literally the most expensive mistake I have ever made.

>>15817801
CHYNA

>>15817904
Did I mention china once based retard? No I didnt, this is going to be a crash based on fundamental misapplication of resources in the modern paradigm globally that will bleed over into sociopolitical problems world wide. No on is exempt from this crash, yes it will still be that bad. South America will be the big winners from this global demand flatline.

So what the fuck do we do with crypto gains? What kind of bullshit are in for the next 20 years?