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The irony here is that you are a faggot, and even if you have suffered massive psychological trauma or actually have a chemical imbalance, the best chance of recovery is a combination of stacking natural methods plus therapy/deriving deeper meaning from connections with others. Medication is a band-aid at best. Most anxiety or depression people suffer from is discontent from poor decisions and poor diet. The body/mind connection is incredible. How you respond to external events is a choice. Processed sugar/refined carbs are the worst offender.

>>15811648
This reply couldn’t be more relevant to OP text

>>15811673
You are the one who posted that faggy infograph that had nothing to do with your OP topic as well, so what do you expect?

>>15811609
>above average intelligence
>fell for the ADHD meme
>unable to build good habits and self discipline
Faggot

>>15811774
How do you build self-discipline? How to strengthen those neuro-paths in my brain that allows me to sit down and be productive?

>>15811609
Lol is that pic supposed to be a joke? Doing half the stuff on there will literally cure your depression (include meditation) instead of sitting inside eating fast food and staring at memes like a retarded Zoomer. It’s up to you to find your purpose OP but it usually should incorporate something you already like/are interested in in a meaningful way.

>>15811859
Meditation and stop being a cell phone addict

>>15811609
I work in CAD automation. Maybe look into learning programming and branch out with your skillset?

>>15811648
>Having a hyper-active mind and over-thinking everything, it is unbearable to be trapped somewhere for 10-hours a day. I quit my job (CNC programmer/operator) and am still wishing for death because my life has NO meaning and NO gratification.

>>15811609
>vegan
hahahahahah

>>15811859
Habit. When you do something for long enough you must do it that way without feeling weird.

>>15811774
>>15812023
Normalfags just will never understand the curse of actually having a physical problem in their brain. You disgusting dopies have it so easy.

>>15811609
you talk shit about these people but truthfully the reason they've never been depressed is because they run, drink water, do yoga, don't do drugs, are vegan, sleep 8 hours a day, and work out time to travel/relax. in conclusion fuck you

>>15811859
if you have to ask you should just give up now, get drunk and play fortnite lol

>>15811609
>over-thinking everything
you're either 16 or a 130 iq brainlet
probably the latter since you're looking for a job
you don't overthink, you just believe that you're smart enough to be justified in questioning everything but you're too dumb to find any answers and don't know how to control yourself

>>15811859
>strengthen those neuro-pathways
hahahaha
you're fucked

maybe read a book
but you won't
you're too clever for those and know everything already
and besides what's the point anyway!!!

>>15812197
>>15812155
>maybe read a book
>but you won't
>you're too clever for those and know everything already
>and besides what's the point anyway!!!
Where the hell did you get this from? I was hoping anons will have some lifehacks or tricks they have used to build discipline that I haven't yet heard before. You're the brainlet here.

>>15812241
building discipline with a fucking "lifehack" is an oxymoron you absolute fool

>>15812241
>I was hoping anons will have some lifehacks or tricks they have used to build discipline

>>15812272
>>15812448
Both of you are retards.

OP here.

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>>15811774
>>15812079

>sleep 8 hours a day and jog lol
>do what you like

Let me expand on why I am where I am

I’m 29
I’ve lived the hyper-active professional life for 10-years now.
My jobs have been the reason I go to bed praying for death.
I’ve calculated that after work, eating, hygiene, commuting, and sleep I have a average of 3.5 hours per day to myself.
Imagine existing for only 3.5 hours a day
All I want to do is research new subjects, study, look into history or other languages but with only 3.5 hours I get anxious because I will sit down and start reading and feel like there’s something I “should” be doing but I’m not.
It’s like when you leave home and wonder if you locked the door: you can’t have peace of mind.
So I quit my job. I was happier when I was 17 and ran away from home, dropped out of school and chose to be homeless because every day allowed me to work at my own pace. Nothing would slow me down or guide me to subjects I had no interest in.

While homeless, I obsessively started working on engines and specifically motorcycles. I was on-par with many who had done it for year in a matter of no time. I took on gigs fixing people’s bikes in exchange for tools. Eventually I worked for money. Finally I opened my own shop and had a waiting list that was 18-months long due to SEO. I got overwhelmed because I couldn’t even sleep at night. I spent every waking hour answering calls, helping customers unload their shit and giving estimates and finally having time for repair. I tried for 6 months to find some way of bringing in a “manager” that could do all of the above except the repairs. I gave up on the shop after 2-years and lucked into a CNC job which led to my CAD/CNC career.

Before I quit I was going to gym, doing BJJ, and jogging

I still feel like NOTHING I’ve heard of, researched, or experienced is what I want to do. Nothing gives me joy. Nothing calls me. Nothing is even worth my attention.

>>15812551
respect. accept that your own happiness is a lost cause at this point and you're better than obsessing over it. run a 100 miler and check back in.

>>15812551
Hedonic treadmill.
The ultimate skill to master is the one where you learn to be satisfied with what you have. All other skills are just for fun.

>>15812551
you're real dude respect.

>>15812581
>just exercise bro

>>15812581
>>15812605
>>15812633
Cool. I will never be happy. Why live?
But since I can’t KMS (I’m devout Christian) I have to find a real career. At my age I’m running out of potential SO’s and I can only make it worse since I’m selling all my cars just to pay rent while I get out of whatever toxic life I had. I will likely lose my apartment by next month and be on the street again. I literally have NOTHING to show for 10-years of slavery.

>>15812774
>Cool. I will never be happy. Why live?
Happiness is overrated. You want to feel happy? Shoot up meth.

>>15812774
>I literally have NOTHING to show for 10-years of slavery
HAHAHAHAHAHA
wait... you're telling me... *catches breath* so you're telling me you wageslaved for 10 YEARS... AHHAHAHAH 10 FUCKING YEARS

10 YEARS AND YOU HAVE NOTHING TO SHOW FOR IT??? HAHAH oh god wait okay shit

*breathessss*

ok anon PLZ tell us HOW THE FUCC you managed to fuck ur shit up so much

no seriously plz tell us so that we dont become like you

>>15812774
>Cool. I will never be happy. Why live?
Like I said, it's a skill. It's the only skill you haven't put any effort into.

>>15812774
Some of your comments sound like something I'd say, personally my plan is to work hard and invest aggressively in high risk / high reward assets then hope one of my investments works well enough to have the freedom to explore whatever I feel like doing. If that doesn't sound like a good idea, perhaps you can just try saving up some money to give yourself some time to explore interests and alternate between work / exploring interests until you find something that you want to pursue. Hope that helps

>>15811648
Nothing worse than an internet quack

>>15812936
Most people are like this. They spend the money in useless shit to cope with their shit lives. I'm beginning to become like that too since I got my first job that isn't min wage. Here I am at almost 11PM on a Friday night, drinking beer alone and browsing the internet. People are with their friends right now; having fun, meeting new people, making new friends, and yet here I am.

They say wagies cherish their weekends but they only make me want to kill myself.

>>15811609
Check out coins and Blockchains, like Telecoin and TELEX or even LITE

OP

>>15813069
I had steady salary but not having any time to do anything killed opportunities to do more than work and prepare for more work.

I’m single. I can’t imagine ever meeting an SO if I’m stuck in an office 6-days a week and interact with maybe 10 unique encounters a week. Chances are low enough that anybody is compatible, they only diminish as I play the game less and less.

I can’t keep living life like this if it looks like I’m certain to be single forever so I’d rather be homeless and without stress than working pointlessly for NO reward.

Nobody has mentioned entry level positions for little or no academic creds

>>15813380
>I can’t keep living life like this if it looks like I’m certain to be single forever so I’d rather be homeless and without stress than working pointlessly for NO reward.
This was the kind of rationale that I had in my mind when I was a NEET and it kept me there for a long time. I already knew that having some money and looking better through grooming, having money for gym and stuff, etc wouldn't get me friends or girls. I knew that the problem was with ME. I pulled through anyways because life as a NEET was miserable anyways. At least I can respect myself a little now.

Not that I am genuinely happy in any way haha

>>15813424
Exactly. Everybody says “love yourself first”. Yeah right. I hope I don’t live to see the end of THIS day. There is NOTHING I like about my self because believing things that you can’t corroborate with another party is called DELUSION. So even if I was the best MMA fighter in the world, what would it matter if I couldn’t have accolades and recognition?

I’m living the active life. I can make a crowd of people laugh and make “friends” for a night but by the next morning nobody is around and nobody wants to stay in touch. So I’m alone and unable to confirm anything I know about myself. If I made an automatic back-patter what would that do for me?

My esteem is where it needs to be but after 10-years I’ve still never had a friend or even somebody just ask how I’ve been so why would I see my future any different if I continued my career?

>>15812774
Devout Christian eh? Just chill the fuck out, find something that you enjoy and can do to make enough money to survive, go to Church, ask Jesus for the solution to your problems, find a SO at Church, simple, keep it simple you retard.

Kids are born with polio in Africa and are so poor they have to crawl in their own feces to get drinking water, then die of diherria.

Count your blessings and man the fuck up. /thread

>>15814173
I have nothing to achieve. Going to the hamster wheel and running every day does nothing. Wow I got money, great now what do I do with it? Oh buy myself things and eat and have a home? WOW what a fulfilling life, I just need a few more things to fill my thing hole

God will test us. We are meant to have SOME kind of suffering so that we can be free in the end. As far as I can tell, God does not have anybody intended for me. So there is NO point in me being in THIS life. Only thing I look forward to is death

>>15815034
Maybe your Christianity isn't serving you anymore?
To get up to the next level in life, you'll have to put away comforting and basically-correct morality, and drill down into the more nuanced truth, to see how the machinery of this world actually works - beyond good and evil - the most powerful force in human history - science.
Losing your religion will make you feel alive that's for damm sure. And maybe you can do something incredibly useful for humanity building on those skills you got after 10 years.
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=14kO5kHLhgAz3mon_RMKA-3U03fAJVHI8

>>15811648
Dude you should really head back to rÉddit

>>15815350
If there was no God I’d kill myself as fast as I could swallow tablets

>>15815350
You’re an edgy faggot

>>15815350
Losing your religion is the best way to find god.

>>15811609
You can get into and move up quickly in sales positions if you are smart & socialable.

Im not talking about baby shit like selling boomers cars, but commercial real estate, commercial mortgage backed securities, property & casualty insurance, advisory services, etc...

>>15815903
I was a successful new car salesman. Knew how to manipulate people while making it feel like a social exchange.

The reason I quit was it was WAY too irregular. Every person (fucking pakis and Chinese) was a new battle to be fought. They would talk about all the other deals they’ve seen online or just say it’s not worth the price cuz they can get it less somewhere else.

What sort of sales are not like this?

>>15812551
I was thinking about going on an ice fishing trip to alaska to build 20k so I can fund myself airflight lessons and work my way towards being an airline pilot. Either that or radiology tech classes to work part-time for lower-middleclass pay.

There's also always dropshipping. Knowing SEO's a big boost in that.

>>15812032
Reminder that self improvement doesn't work.

>>15813424
And yet here you are alone on 4chan on a friday night. Looks like that worked real well for you.

>>15815781
So basically, if you read one of Dawkins books, you will suicide. Interesting.
Religion is the crutch which is supporting you, the last branch you are clinging to. And it's also the thing holding you back.

>>15815781
Literally why?

>>15815832
How is the only scientifically supportable position "edgy"?

>>15815781
There is a god but hes not who you think. What you think is god is actually Yaldaboath, an envious ruthless beast who works with the Jews who control this realm. The real God is Sophia

>>15816640
1/1 (i wrote this down on my notepad listening to the first 10 minutes):
so he starts off talking about world trade center attacks, suicide bombings, etc. simplistically. as if human struggle would disappear without "religion". or idk. why did he mention this? it's instantly manipulative. and makes him sound like a sensationalist idiot. "without religion, there are no suicide bombings." and you have to acknowledge the manipulation here. "every religious person is an extremist." the implication. and "without religion, there is no human struggle." and he wants to manipulate you out of a life that might just make you perfectly happy. then the woman talks about trivialities such as "your religion depends on where you are born".

then i guess the next part is "muh social construct". which also makes you wonder. there were studies about children or people without knowledge of religion. and they were exposed to "strange" phenomena. and by nature they believed for there to be a "higher power". and if you would let them reason long enough, they would probably arrive at some religion that is reminiscent of the one people are taught eventually. at least the majority of people. so if 99% of all women want to be submissive in bed... for example... and 99% of all children would start believing in a religion of some type (even if these have vague abstractions)...

right? i was always of the opinion that children should be educated about every relatively big religion. and then choose themselves when they turn 14 or so. but dawkins... is a dogmatic atheist. i guess? and he wants for children to be taught nothing. the same way edgy retards today don't want to educate their children on... i don't know... morals, ethics, abstinence, etc and the result? people get increasingly fat, hypersexual, etc. being told that abstinence is "ill". and people with sick kinks are normal. when abstinence is good for your mind.

2/4:
neverminding that there are spiritual religions that have no god in that sense. like buddhism. and then to mind come scientifically proven effects of meditation, mindfulness, etc. while westerners become ill social media addicts who are too edgy and cool for this shit and generally refuse to accept spiritual knowledge handed down to them, since it would be "religious".

and because i'm so cool and tolerant... i once also thought to myself... "children should be given a name by their parents... but be allowed to add a secondary name once they turn 18." e.g. the parent names the child bob. but bob can then add... idk... jones? so his name is bob-jones. but then you also acknowledge genetics and shit. and odds are that bob actually likes his name.

right... so the question isn't "why is there religion handed down by parent to child". but the question is... "to what degree is this religion enforced tribally". meaning that your neighbour has a direct influence on you naming your child. because he enforced it or whatever (which is trivial). doesn't make religion/naming or passing down religion inherently bad. (also relevant to how people act their name. but then maybe people just act their genetics. whereas their parents gave them a fitting name by genetics.) nor is there anything inherently wrong about being a social creature if it is to a degree tribal. as long as it doesn't go overboard (meaning fundamentalism). of course this doesn't exist in his polarized world. which he already suggested in the prologue by implying "all religious people are suicide bombers."

3/4:
next up he falls into a kind of reasoning that makes you think about "he can only make this argument because he is the minority". he uses a kind of victim reasoning which is generally used to appeal to "SJWs" and inherently uncritical. which he believes to give his argument credibility simply because he is the minority. which is again psychologically manipulative. worse under consideration of his deluded atheist fundamentalist followers displaying the same kind, if not worse, behaviour on youtube videos. in which he (and i do believe that dawkins is autistic to some degree) talks (and you can't call it a debate, because it's a joke) to fundamentalist stooges who take everything written in their "holy scriptures" in the most literal way, only. and he refuses to "debate" people who don't take everything completely literally. because it's "dishonest" to not be autistic, i guess?

(these are all still the first 10 minutes. but already you can tell that he is manipulative and all this is overly simplistic AF. and idk whether he is doing it on purpose... but i remember him citing famous people of the past and trying to shoehorn them to fit his own atheist opinion. and... yeah. he isn't interested in finding out the truth. and odds are he will never be. because he's just another biased dude.)

next you also have to acknowledge that coming out as "atheist" (which is vastly complex and has huge consequences what politics and general ethics are concerned) isn't really the same as coming out as "homosexual," which is a false equivalency he tries to peddle (i think, i didn't fully understand the audio and can't be bothered with relistening to the part). and again he does the same as with the victim reasoning. and is manipulative. and thinks his "argument" automatically gains credibility because of some false and overly simplistic equivalency.

4/4:
i then turned it off 10 minutes in, because i really have my own opinion, am agnostic, believe in ethics , and am way too lazy of a motherfucker as to listen to a manipulative edgelord, who wants to suggest that the tolerance of homosexuality is an atheist accomplishment. and that religious (social) ideals can't change due to an increase in, for example, economic wealth enabling it. can't have lesbians when you need them to breed hunters to survive, right?

BUT BEING RICH ISN'T AN ATHEIST ACHIEVEMENT. YOU CAN BE AN ATHEIST (OR GAY) BECAUSE YOU ARE RICH. BEING AN ATHEIST (OR GAY) IS A LUXURY. and if you don't acknowledge it, and actually turn into an edgelord atheist (rather than realistic agnostic or w/e), then it's very much possible that your society WILL come crumbling down and you WILL go back to having to stone homosexuals. (look at incels and other shit and hope that technology will bail you out)

>>15817213
>>15817217
>>15817222
>>15817230
Nice one bro, wasn't expecting that you would even open it. Sorry I didn't have the new book in the picture, I only have the old one, from 2006 which is a lot more belligerent, as you note (Dawkins mad from arguing with bible thumping literalists who are trying to push biological science out of the classroom so they can teach creationism)

Yes, children do reach for the simple explanation of a "big daddy" who created things, its quite natural as a stop-gap when we don't understand things. like lightning for example, primitive people couldn't explain electricity so assumed a god did it. It's also natural for humans to assume the world is flat too. Common sense doesn't work so well on bigger scales, or microscales, requires careful observation and logical reasoning.

I like that idea of children choosing their own names at 18, creating yourself is what life is about.

Not sure which part he could only do because he is a minority? He's quite willing to debate softer religious people, but he also pins them down with careful questions and exposes their foggy and contradictory though-process. They either believe or they don't.

But yeah, probably this is not what you need right now. what you need is to get rich. You need knowledge you can apply right now to give your society something they can't get yet, sustainably at scale.

Take a hit on this one instead:
https://youtu.be/nQAP6el66MU?t=79

a bit related, too, it reminds me of this iota "cfb." who referred to "the god delusion" as his favorite book. but is inherently the type who then also posts on his twitter, asking his fanboys "DO YOU LIKE MY POST BETTER OR THAT OF OUR ENEMIES?" and, not understanding bias, he sincerely believes that he will receive a neutral response. because, in this autistic regard, he is entirely void of critical thought. even if he might be a genius in other aspects of reality. he will just listen to this "dawkins", whose books are likely aimed at children under 25, be manipulative and eat it up. but at the same time he should probably stay away from philosophy and keep doing what he does. the same way this "dawkins" should stay a biologist and keep away from philosophy. but then religious many loons and fundamentalists are similar, huh?

would be a pretty sad state of affairs, desu, if these 10 minutes are in any way representative one of the supposedly "most renowned philosophers" of the 21st century. when he can't refrain from being blatantly biased for even one minute. but then you also have "all sex is rape" feminists supposedly be compared to people like plato? top kek.

>>15811609
>that pic
I wanted to kms every day for years in my early 20s, tried a couple of times and ended up in hospital. The meme recommendations in the pic literally saved my life (never tried essential oils mind).
There's a reason why these recommendations are cliche, try them. What have you got to lose?

>didn't read OPs text but I am confident that he's a faggot.

>>15811609
Fly fishing guide

>>15811609
Water, exercise and sleep do help, the rest of that crap is largely just a meme. Also by help I mean it may make life more tolerable, it will never fix your depression altogether.