/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>15802526
When this shit crashes to single digits and you are broke and pennyless along with all your shill friends I will be there to laugh at your sorry asses for perpetuating this scam on yourselves.

>>15802526
Imagine still believing this poofta and his "evidence". Lame.

>>15802526
Somehow the title did not get included:

"More CSW = Satoshi evidence coming soon" - Calvin Ayre

Seems like they are all caught up in their perpetual lies.

>rusty staples
fuckin amateurs

>>15802526

>handwritten whitepaper

oh i am laffin

>>15802637
Hahahahahaha I can get ya a toe dude

Genesis block still unsigned FAGGOTS

>>15803276
sergey is waiting for the most opportune moment

>>15803258
with coffee on it, imagine that

>>15803258
in the fat frauds own handwriting, tho
>swaps font from DaveSigComicSans to cregshand2008.ttf
>adds coffee stain
>microwave for 1m 30s
>buries in garden for a week
>presents to court
SEE ?! UNARGUABLE PROOFS
>cries
Calvin is now overtaking the fat fraudulent mess (slowly, but surely) in the 'I'm a lying bullshitting cunt with zero credibility' stakes. You'd think he he was spending his own money funding this 'creg is Satoshi' charade. or something

>>15802526
You can't save people who really want to drown.

>>15803864
Why the fuck am I supposed to believe in this fiction? By far, this guy produced nothing but fake e-mails, fake screenshots, fake wallet addresses, fake research papers etc., what a sham.

>>15803864
>no coffee stains
>not one rusty staple
>not being produced from a dusty box, along with an authentically dated polaroid showing young creg reading that days UK Times issue. At a farm in BongaBonga, fucknowheresville, Australia
1/10, must try harder

>>15803312
>>15803339

kek also:

>not following it as am a bit busy
>can name intricate details of the evidence

>>15802526
At 400 i would have more than 100k. Stop getting me excited

Saroj must have been busy hand writing that whitepaper for evidence. I feel genuinely sorry for you lot honestly.

>>15803913
None of this is fiction. Keep up the FUD though, you only give smart people like me more time to accumulate.

CSW is sooo fake

>>15803971
Are you mentally deficient and don't understand what people are telling you? Every single thing he produced - starting from 2015 when he first appeared - is fake & debunked. Good luck picking at his anus and expecting to find a gem.

>>15804028
>Are you mentally deficient and don't understand what people are telling you?

translation: why is our organized attacks not working? Why won't you fall for our lies!?

KYS kike.

>>15804052
You apparently have the IQ of a jungle nigger who is unable to process modern information and make distinctions between true and false. I said GOOD LUCK, keep picking at Creg's poop looking for gold nuggets.

>>15804085
Throwing tantrums doesn't strengthen any of your terrible arguments Greg.

>>15804172
Yeah, yeah, his famous letter right before he created bitcorn. Except that the the domain information-defense.com was not registered in 2008!. The same with every piece of his "evidence".

It's just a bunch of bullshit and fraud.

Any other metanet.icu members bailing this month? Seems like the price doubled and content cut in half. Plus they got the satoshi sisters discord thing, its all a bit much

>>15804052
what is this supposed to be proving, creg fishing from Ira emails and trying to make himself sound like 'the rich foreign guy who owns some properties' ?
It takes till exactly the first sentence to either prove, hes a fat fucking lying toerag or directly contradicting himself, which over Dave he also managed to do multiple times while under fucking oath. One sentence is all it ever takes with this waddling bag bullshit on demand.
As to whether the fat fraud EVER 'really missed Dave' ? I suspect, latest when he was trying to open Daves wallets (after his death) and stooped to trying to wheezle the fucking passkey out of Daves 90+ year old father, why then, in that moment, oh he DID miss Dave alright. But otherwise ? nope
But this the niveau of the cunt you are shilling for. Time to look in a mirror anon, and re-evaluate the company you keep

>>15802526
It's obvious creg is a scammer. But even if he was satoshi bsv wouldn't fucking move. BTC is king and won't ever be displaced by these shitcoin replicas.The flippening will be an actual innovative new crypto

Creg's fanboy got triggered.

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>>15804310

>>15804346
see >>15804342

>>15804346
>coffee stains
>rusty staples
>and NOW, AUDIO FILES !
>from 20-whatever-year-you-need !
>(adds authentic tape hiss)

>>15804324
>le Tulip trust
Pathetic. This thing is laughable just the way it reads.

>>15804371
>>15804375
I hope blockstream pays you well. Or JIDF. Or CIA. Or whoever you are working for.

>>15804379
ROFL.
No craig, we call you a fraud because you can't use the immutable evidence chain "you invented" to show a shred of evidence. Fucking moron.

>>15802526
>middle of May
>promised
>immediate release
>October
>still no release
hmmmmmmm

>>15804397
You sound triggered, gaylord. Go pick at another batch of Creg's delicious shit, the delivery from his worked-up anus has arrived.

>>15804414

>>15804444
Cope nigger.

>>15804469

>>15804375
HOW very dare you doubt this paragon of business ? Just LOOK at all these fine totally existing (except for the ded ones) Trust members he found to PROVE HIS WORD

>>15802526
I don’t care anymore I just want BSV to moon already so I can be rich and buy a Porsche 911. How the fuck can it get to
$1k by the end of the year like Craig predicted?

Rusty fucking staples, in 10 years????

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>>15804509
Enjoy your (You)'s faggot

>27 posts by this ID

>>15804532
Greg pls just die

>>15802526
This is the correct thread.
BSV will be the true ethrum killer and also king of coinmarketcap 2019
Do you not think that the Craig Wright team has not been working hard? Guess what? It has

what we have here is an opportunity of gold. a great possible victory if you might think
have you ever looked at a token or coin and thought to yourself that you would have purchased it if it was early btc? i know what it feels like to buy the early stuff - i am a big holder myself actually
and when i look at craig and do my own research into him, he is definitely the maker of btc
all of the signs are there for him to be the true mind behind the excllent product. so if you had this hope in the past, you may wish to consider what you have not been paying attention to up until this time
me? i am all in
if you are smart you will be also
.
And always remember, as Craig says:
Get in BSV
The real BTC!

Let us all celebrate now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwRZgtTEH08&t= [Embed] [Embed]
And now For a Bonus! Watch him DESTROY a hater!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIvqn87iAz8 [Embed] [Embed]

>>15803864
Both Andrew Ohagan and Craig have said Craig didn't have control of the original keys meaning Craig couldn't have "proven" anything to Gavin.

Idk I guess maybe bsv is a scam. The conference was kind of a joke, and barely anyone was watching the stream.
Or maybe this feeling of despair means it's about to blow up. idk

Fuck this clown market in this clown world.

BSV is going to 0 and your pajeet shilling can't stop it. The market has already decided.

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>>15803913
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>>15804375
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>>15806446
You tards do realize most people don't give a shit about greg maxwell and it doesn't bother anybody if you accuse them of being him. People just hate Craig, Calvin and the BSV promoters.

>>15806340
well, he can't have both signed for Andresen AND have the keys locked up and inaccessible in the 'Tulip Trust', so, one of these stories is complete bollox for a start. And as this signing was arranged by a company with a commercial interest in the fat fraud being Satoshi, under extremely controlled circumstances and held in private (when he could have just signed a fucking public message in the first place and good is), we will assume this signing was indeed the assumed 'rabbit from a hat' for the wide-eyed Mr Andresen.
SO, that means the 'Tulip Trust' story must be true. The same 'Tulip Trust' with ded or missing (or both) Trustees, created by an aged off-the-shelf firm purchased by Wright 3 years AFTER the Trust was formed.. ah, fuck it.
LETS JUST ASSUME absolutely fucking EVERYTHING this cunt says is a lie. That way, you can be at least assured of being right nearly all of the time. In fact, definitely 100% of the time. If this cunt ever has told the truth, I'll guarantee, he's contradicted it again later. Complete fucking chancer, the cunt

>>15806500
Craig is the bonded courier

>>15802526
>not following this guy i've invested millions into because i'm a bit busy

>>15806517
he'd probably have stolen the self addressed envelope before he'd delivered it tho
>>15806541
Calvins gonna drag himself under trying to pull the fat fraud out of this swamp of their own bullshit. This all won't end well

>>15805440

Wow, this is a typical example of a brainlet that is stuck in 2017.

Yeah sure your project is developing nicely, ha.

Listen, it really doesn't matter right now how much BSV is "developing" the key thing here in 2019 is the network and how thousands of people are actively creating on that network to connect to real world applications.

Currently there is no one close to Ethereum. no one. ETH contracts with the help of Chainlink will be hitting the business world this year and dominate the automative process.

BSV? my god son. wake up. Are you still chasing TPS, scalling, privacy? What is it that BSV is actually doing to get adopted faster then ETH? Really, now. think about it.

2019 is not about the tech and which one is better. Its about the partners, the relationships and the network effect. And right now ETH/LINK is killing it.

This is ETHS game to lose. If it faulters then another will rise and take over. I don't even see BSV in the conversation of top 10 in this scenario.

>>15806695
LOL. This type of post is all "they" have left.

BSV is Bitcoin!

>>15806695
God this is cringey

>>15806695
Bump for another look at the anti-BSV cringefest.

>>15802526
friendly reminder that Craig Wright has absolutely zero scruples fabricating "fake evidence". We only got lucky in the past because he's a sloppy amateur and the details reveal him to be an imposter, forger and fraud.

You can 100% expect that none of this bullshit that Craig delivers is of any tangible substance to hold up in court or in any serious review.

I lost a lot of money on this gullible asshole Calvin who shilled for Craig and is apparently brain dead after fucking too many underage girls to see that Craig Wright is nothing but a fraud who's living a completely fabricated lie.

>>15804534
he made a typo:
not 1200 eoy
but
12.00 eoy

look im a smart guy. i got burned enough putting trust into these assholes. you think anyone else smart, looking on bsv from the outside will put money into it after what happened?

they played the hype-copyright card already. that was it. the last thing they could easily twist around. the next barriers to overcome would include to convince actual people with influence or the genesis block to be signed. both not gonna happen. craig is a faggot and scares everyone away. the smart one just laugh at him. this shitcoin is going nowhere three digits again, that was it.

>>15807981
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUTYTejRPew
https://youtu.be/HfHgMDhISGw

Imagine the percentage of people that are convinced by your comment vs a two day conference. Imagine thinking shit arguments do anything but signal the opposite of what they intend

>>15808052
really who cares....bsv reputation is already at 'clown level'. you really think some conference will change that?

>>15808068
>Another ad hominem vs 14 hours of value presentation
Just sold 100k

>>15808080
>value

>>15802526
>Price rose over 400% over 3 weeks
and then it crashed 63% wiping out almsot all gains and all you faggots kept hodling like retards

>>15802526
I really believed this thread was anti BSV at first glance why are you posting some old shit from calvin boasting about muh evidence when they got ABSOLUTELY BTFO IN COURT and their evidence turned out as fraudulent and forged??

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>>15808117
I think we're at a stage where we can assume that Calvin&Co realize that nobody (who matters) is buying the craig=satoshi meme. What's the point of keeping the topic relevant? Is it seriously all about keeping some buy pressure so they can keep selling at decent prices?

i wonder how this will end with craig.
there's no way he's getting away with this.

so the options are either:
-jail / mental asylum
-killed by fan/disgruntled partner
-suicide

i mean....he cannot go on with this forever. it's just against the laws of this world. he has to pay a price at one point, like we all have to. he's been beyond the peak already so final judgment is not that far away.

i would estimate that this whole thing just completely collapses by accident/sheer chance when no one really expects it. usually it happens like that.

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>>15804210
left for btc kek

>>15802526
new forged evidences, great

>>15806695
Ethereum can't scale, end of story. All that typing of mumble jumble for nothing.

>>15807981
Liar. If you lost money its because you have no idea what you're doing.

lightning network is more reliable than metanet

>>15808302
LN lol

use LBTC or watever shit that is kek

>>15808292
more like "putting faith in this aussie that's running around in open public and on stages screaming he's the real inventor of bitcoin & claiming official copyright registration"

what craig/calvin did to me was FRAUD.

if this wasn't an unregulated pile of garbage market people like these two assholes would sit in jail already.

Get this in your fucking brain retards. He can have all the fake documents in the world. If he can't sign from an og wallet nobody is gonna believe he is satoshi. End of discussion.

‘What… what do you want, Adam?’

‘Control, Andreas.’

He heard steps somewhere down the hallway of Blockstream’s new mining facility, but they were fading. Adam and Andreas were alone except for the hum of the new servers all around them.

Adam stared at him, smiling, almost indifferently.

‘But you were a cypherpunk,’ he began thickly and stopped.

‘Yes Andreas, I was. So was Greg. So were all of us. Does it surprise you to see how little our principles meant to us in the end? Don’t spare my feelings. It surprises me too. But here we are.’

Andreas could barely believe what he was hearing…he didn’t want to believe it. Was it even possible?

‘Do you want to know how to control Bitcoin?’ Adam said softly. ‘There are many ways.’

‘Here’s one: limit the block size. Keep it as small as possible. Create bottlenecks. Make transactions reversible. Kill Bitcoin’s ability to scale as money for the world…without your help, of course.

Don’t try to control Bitcoin outright. That won’t work. Satoshi was smart about that. But make Bitcoin slow and expensive and it will be yours just the same.

Early users won’t like this. Bitcoin was meant to be fast and cheap. You must convince them that they will achieve a superior Bitcoin by giving up the old one.

The trick is to turn their ideals against them. Learn to use them as weapons. They won’t question the block size if you tell them it is for ‘decentralization.’ They won’t if you tell them it is about nodes and security.

They’ll even be glad for your help. They will thank you for protecting Bitcoin against the shortsightedness of those who want to use it. They will slowly get used to paying higher fees because it’s for a higher cause. You’ve got it.

That’s one way.

Here’s another: redefine Bitcoin entirely. It was never about payments after all. Laughter is your weapon here. Laugh at anyone who says it was. Mock any use case they can think of.

Coffee? That is stupid. Just use Visa. Data? That is spam. Merchants? They’re crooks. Do this enough and they won’t use it at all. Tell them Bitcoin was always about storing value, not fast, cheap payments. High fees are a good thing and Satoshi always intended them. Do this all while leaving bitcoin.org unchanged. You’ll be astonished by how effective this gaslighting can be.

When they show you the white paper, change the meaning of words. Tell them ‘cash’ actually meant ‘money-box.’ Show them how ‘small casual payments’ really referred to amounts in Bitcoin, not the dollar. While you’re at it, it’s a good time to let them know that a ‘node’ is actually not a miner. We don’t want them thinking that miners have power. They wouldn’t need us anymore.

Remind them that you are the expert, that you know how to code and ‘code is law,’ and they’ll stop trusting their common sense. It stands to reason that the man who speaks of code and law intends to be the coder, but they won’t put this together. Tell them ‘humans can be corrupted’ but math can’t and they won’t see your corruption.

If this doesn’t work, tell them the white paper was just marketing, that Satoshi was clever. He wanted to sell Bitcoin to the world. “Commerce,’ ‘micropayments,’ this was good copywriting but he didn’t mean any of it.

Oh! And if you really want to get them, deny the white paper entirely. Tell them Satoshi couldn’t possibly have been right about everything. You don’t need to prove that or provide anything specific. Nobody is infallible, after all. You only need to put some doubt in their minds and they will do the rest of the hard work for you. If Satoshi can be wrong about anything in general, he could be wrong about one thing in particular.

Then there’s another way: take over the communication channels. Create bots to argue with anyone who disagrees with you. Make them feel alone. Make them feel stupid. Ban anyone who can make an intelligent case against you. Nobody will speak up because nobody wants to be banned themselves.

Call these people or companies ‘enemies of Bitcoin.’ Attack their character and reputation. It doesn’t even matter if what you say is true, so long as people can believe it might be true. The mobs on Twitter will do your work for you.

If they try to make their own coin to compete against Bitcoin, call them scammers. Even better, pump and dump the coins they created so you can buy more Bitcoin, all while telling the mass of people it is evil and immoral to buy these ‘alt-coins.’ We don’t need to follow the rules we set for others.

>>15808163
he moves to a safe country and enjoys the wealth he made off retards

Here’s one last way: cheat. Offer a ‘compromise’ that will lower transaction costs without raising the block size. Tell them it will solve Bitcoin’s scaling problems. You know it won’t. You know it’s just a stepping stone to your real plan. But they’re desperate for a solution and are going to take anything you offer.

To get everyone to agree to this compromise, offer a small block size increase in return. When they give you what they want, back out of the deal. You already know the playbook. Attack the character and competence of everyone with whom you made the deal. They are ‘enemies of Bitcoin.’ They are ‘scammers.’ Code is law.

Bitcoin is almost yours.

Now offer your solution to the problems in Bitcoin that you created. Bitcoin CAN scale, but only with the help of your company, which stands to make a fortune, and only off-chain on a second layer. Fees will be so high they will have to use your product. Only large institutions—regulated central banks of sorts that are probably owned by you—will be able to afford to transact on-chain.

But keep quiet about that last bit. People might not like that. They might ask why it was important to limit the block size so that everyone could run a node when nobody was going to transact on-chain anyways. They might ask how this is different from the system Bitcoin was meant to change. You don’t want this.

Tell them the solution will come in 18 months. Extend the deadline indefinitely. People who no longer think Bitcoin is about payments won’t mind waiting as long as you want them to wait.

In the meantime, pump the price as much as possible. Print stable coins to dump into Bitcoin and stimulate demand. The price wouldn’t be increasing if you were wrong, would it? Bitcoin will store value as long as you keep up demand.

When the price does drop, redefine what it means to ‘store value.’ Tell them one Bitcoin is still one Bitcoin. Tell them to ‘hodl’ and buy more to sustain the price. Terrorize the doubters.

Develop more solutions and business models to profit from this new layer of Bitcoin. Conceal bugs from the public. Act like your product is already perfect. Act like you’ve already won because you have. Even if people do find problems, laugh and tell them it’s a beta software. Or you can smear them. Or you can turn their ideals against them. You’ve done it before, you can do it again.

People will get used to transacting off-chain. They’ll be glad to pay you small fees to do everything from transaction routing to fraud prevention for them. Maybe your solutions can be regulated, but that’s all for the better because it keeps competitors out. Eventually they won’t even remember they’re using Bitcoin. They might not even be using Bitcoin–who’s to say? That’s the kicker. Nobody will be settling their funds on-chain because of the costs you created. And the rare time they want to, they can use one of our banks, for a fee of course.

No, Bitcoin didn’t live up to its full potential, but nobody really remembers or cares. You’ve made sure of that. They won’t even see that you’ve replaced the thing they thought Bitcoin would help end.

That is how you do it, Andreas. That is how you turn man’s greatest financial achievement in history against him. That is how you rule Bitcoin.’

Adam stopped. He was smiling that same indifferent smile. Andreas could barely breath. His mind was blank except for the dull background hum of the servers around him.

‘Adam… you’re…’

‘Insane? Are you afraid to say it? What is insane about seizing the opportunity? Bitcoin was always going to be taken over. If we hadn’t done this, somebody else would have.’

‘But Adam, this is wrong,’ Andreas said. ‘This is not why I got into Bitcoin.’

‘Look around you, fool.’ Adam’s eyes were on fire. ‘This is the future of Bitcoin. Satoshi is gone. Few people realize what we’ve done and nobody really cares about them anyways so long as we can keep the price rising.’

‘I’m going to tell the world what has hap….’ Andreas faltered. What would he tell them that they hadn’t already heard and ignored? Hadn’t people been warning him for years? And where was he to be found when he had the chance to talk about it? Wasn’t it too late?

The steps returned, this time coming closer. Adam turned and walked towards them, leaving Andreas standing alone in the dimly lit hall.

>>15808605
as soon as i detected the absolute delusion in your first post i stopped reading alltogether and just skipped over the next one whenever i saw ur ID

no one significant will buy into bsv. anyone looking into bsv will stumble over craig wright and the absolute mess he is.

you can say sayonara to big business,
banks and money thanks to this guy.

>>15808717
don't ruin his fun anon
he's trying to be iconic like Q or some other larper he has in mind

>>15808717
>>15808769
>t. angry kikes

>>15808935
>35 posts by this ID
lmao imagine writing these longass walls of text that nobody will ever bother to read. and I agree with >>15808769 this faggot probably thinks hes Q or some shit, BSVboomers all worship Q for some reason. I guess in their minds they are taking down the satanic pedo elites by holding this shitcoin its a weird culture desu senpai

If there was any proof, even the slightest hint that almost suggested it, it would have been put forward. The fact that he has been proven not to be Staoshi tme and time again makes for a compelling case. The fact that CSW has been caught lying time and time again doesn't exactly strengthen his case. If he has all this proof then why does he only share the lies and forgeries? Does he not realize that proof is better than obvious fakes?

>>15808997
>BSVboomers all worship Q for some reason
Duh. They took a quick look at 4chan and they figured a majority were edgy alt-right type, so they told their indian shills to play on this, that's why you have brown sub humans posing as "anti-SJW" as if it mattered in crypto.

>>15808997
>>15809066
Is Q a larp?

>>15806695
Another fucking moron. Alibaba, McDonalds mean anything to you? Get on twetch.

>>15808240
When was this posted? Context please?

CSW is just good at keeping BSV price low.
Thx to this retard we can accumulate more.
BSV real mastermind is Unwriter.

>>15808563
pen and paper tabs is the best way to scale BTC

>>15809100
No.

>>15809692
>@NormieWokeAF
uh, whats the betting 'Con$erv@tive Karen' here is nuttier than a bag of squirrelshit ?

>>15804397
692 patents and what good have they done?

>>15806446
is that your false flag account?

>>15803864
this guy forgot the part where CSW hits his head and forgets the password to his bitcointalk admin account
lmfao

>>15808240
so much for that being the last chance

The inevitable death of BTC summed up in one picture.

>>15811910
Please elaborate on how bigger blocks and lower transaction fees subsidize miners in a cost effective way, you absolute fucking retard.