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>"If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their Fathers conquered.... I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies.... The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs."

Wait, so Thomas Jefferson was in favor of government-run (central) banks?

>> No.15793090

>>15793072
well guess who's running the private bank

>> No.15793166

>>15793072
Do you think that government run central banks are worse than banks privately owned by a bunch of racists who view us all as subhumans put on the earth to be slaves to them? Because that's what the US has now and it's hardly great. He is right, exactly what he said would happen did happen, it's happening right now.

>> No.15793184

real americans should throw all the Ancaps and Communists into a gladiator ring and watch them kill each other

>> No.15793190

He was right

>> No.15793299
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15793299

Why don't we have presidents like this guy anymore

>> No.15793500

>>15793299
A god among men.

>> No.15794656

>>15793299
Trump was supposed to do this but now he’s the king of israel

>> No.15794693

>>15793072
>Wait, so Thomas Jefferson was in favor of government-run (central) banks?
no he was in favor of the treasury which must follow the constitution and is made up of publicly elected officials that represent citizens

>> No.15794715

>>15793072
How the fuck could anyone possibly come to that conclusion based on what he said? He openly shits on these thieves stealing away our prosperity and you think that's an endorsement?

>> No.15794736

>>15793072

Do you have a verified source for that, and not just a post on Ron Paul Forums?

>> No.15794756
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>>15794656
>king
peon

>> No.15794777
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>> No.15794783

>>15794736
It's real. Read about the arguments Jefferson and Hamilton made to President Washington about the creation of the first national bank.
http://www.digitalhistory.uh.edu/teachers/lesson_plans/pdfs/unit3_4.pdf

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15794791

thankyou keynes

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>> No.15794829

>>15794656
>Trump was supposed to do this
doubt.xpg

>> No.15794860

>>15794791
thats bullshit. thats a lumber kit to build a house. not a fucking house. not even the foundation. it says so right there. your foundation and interiorfinishes are like %50 of the material cost.

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>>15794860

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>> No.15794939

>>15794918
thats the same thing, a lumber kit. just lumber, no land, not even the concrete. those are old school versions of those cuck sheds they sell at home depot. are you even reading this stuff before you post it?

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>> No.15794958

>>15794918
These ads only sell the materials needed for a home.

Homes are still pretty cheap today if you are able to build it yourself. There are youtube channels where young people build fully functioning homes (including heating, plumbing, electric) from scratch for like $30-70,000. The problem is getting permission from the state to build a home.

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>>15794930
cheap shithole then, cheap shithole now.

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imagine trying to defend the federal reserve

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>> No.15795073

>>15795035
We're all on the same side. You were just being misleading with some of your .jpegs

>> No.15795125

I guess Thomas Jefferson didn't realize that the third world people that currently occupy the US would think the solution to this is Marxism

>> No.15795166

>>15795125
>Blames ethnic groups instead of debasement
Another psyoped poltard

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>>15795166

>> No.15795371
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1925 dollar pegged at $25/ounce.
median salary ~$3000 (pic related)
3000/25 = 120 ounces ($180,000 today ($1500/ounce))

2016 dollar between $1130 and $1350 / ounce.
median salary $31,099 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_income_in_the_United_States))
31000/1240 = 25 ounces ($625 in 1925)

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>>15795351
you are subverted https://youtu.be/bX3EZCVj2XA

you could have a nation of identical twins and they would all be as poor as you are now herded like sheep into political tribalism instead of acknowledging the actual problem; debasement. >>15795371

>> No.15795415

>>15794715
>PRIVATE banks
As opposed to, say, a 'federal' bank.

>> No.15795488

>>15793299
Andrew Jackson will go down as the greatest American president ever

>> No.15795570

>>15795415
the federal reserve is private brainlet

>> No.15795579

>>15795570
Central banks have certain autonomy, but they are public (i.e. governmental) institutions.

>> No.15795598

>>15795411
Thanks I removed my frontal lobe and now I'm convinced the state of the country has a lot more to do with what different pieces of paper say than the people in it. I'm going to move to detroit and somalia now since I don't think demographics matter.

>> No.15795612

>>15795598
you're the one that wants ethnic socialism, you should move.

>> No.15795616

>>15793166
>gets no replies

>> No.15795643

>>15793166
>>15795616
>what is a treasury

the real solution is prices must be denominated in pure gold and a seller can accept whatever he likes as currency

>> No.15795681

>>15795616
think if someone airdropped by drone thousands of picrelated's and the fred debasement chart's into some uni's it could ever gain traction?? i dont. sheep are sheep

>> No.15795682

>>15795488
This

It’s an absolute fucking sick Jew joke that he got put on the $20

>> No.15795713

>>15795681
that's why BitCoin as cash is so powerful. Its superiority is undeniable and it can't be debased to hide true price movements

>> No.15795716

Not realizing central banks are private...
The absolute state of this board

>> No.15795720

>>15794939
People who spam images like these never actually read them.

>> No.15795727

>>15795713
we know we know pal. what you dont realize though, is that the jews are in complete control of the emerging blockchain markets and stand to profit more than ever. you cant win.

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>>15795351
>red good blue bad

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>>15795727
decentralisation doesn't work without proof of work and proof of work is incompatible with debasement
the short term implementation or digital kenesian cash or systems that facilitate it (xrp, link, lightning etc) will only elucidate the benefits of bitcoin to normies. In the meantime you can get rich off their centralized answers to bitcoin or they can not pump them and allow even faster adoption of BitCoin.

it has nothing to do with jews you retard, associating market based monetary policy with antisemitism is incorrect and as much as an attack on the adoption of bitcoin as a block size limit. Ethnicity is not a variable in the mechanisms that make the current central banking system the worst tyranny in human history, regardless of what either side of the argument believes

>> No.15795912

>>15795852
the jews have plenty of btc link eth. they benefit alongside and moreso than us. its their next system of control, utter compliance if you believe the rofschild larp

>> No.15795934

>>15795912
>the jews
you're a shill

>> No.15795961

>>15795579
>the fed is a government institution

really? then how come congress doesnt oversee it?

the fed is governed by a group of like 12 private bankers and a chairman and they do whatever they want

its fucking retarded, unless you govern it, in which case you get stupidly rich

a real government run central bank would only be able to create dollars / change interest rates / etc by acts of congress .... and congress gave up that authority to the FED in 1913

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>>15795351
How the Electoral Map would look if only gamers voted.

>> No.15795975

>>15795852
>decentralisation doesn't work without proof of work and proof of work is incompatible with debasement

based, this

proof of work inhibits manipulation and bankers need manipulation to survive, or else they are stuck barely making any money / risk bank runs if they loan too much out

>> No.15795996

>>15795961
>a real government run central bank
is completely illegal under the constitution >>15794777

they allow the creation of private banks to issue war bonds. Which is a necessary evil while socialists nations exist

>> No.15796025

>>15795996
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gg-jvHynP9Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Jb8KqaerhQ

although it is hard to say whether the US is now the complete institute of corrupt faceless entities trying to create global socialism or if it has been fighting with fire until it can return to constitutional law

>> No.15796235

>>15795735
I don’t care for party politics but this is 2016 build the wall trump we’re talking about. If you were against trump then you’re retarded.

>> No.15796257

>>15795961
the purpose of decoupling the Fed from the US government is to keep retards who get meme'd into power from doing stupid shit.

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>>15796257
yeah stupid shit like debasing peoples wealth 3% faster than the rate consumer experiences get cheaper to maximize their employment... oh wait.

kys. The federal reserve was established to issue war bonds. The war is long over so should be the fed. Defining value by CPI is insanity.
giving away 7% of your purchasing power a year should be mandatory for anyone that advocates the application of Keynesian monetary policy to someone else

>> No.15796310

>>15796257
The purpose of decoupling the Fed from the US government is to side-step the constitution which states that only gold and silver are legal tender and explicitly prohibits the government from creating bills of credit aka paper dollars.

>> No.15796367

>>15795974
Unironically based. In my country gamers won a state election and got an attorney General fired because he refused to uncensor L4D2

>> No.15796689

>>15793072
>first by inflation, then by deflation

Can't blame him since the famous low Time Preference Keynes (homosexual) had yet to be born. A correction would be: first by inflation, and then by WAAAAY more inflation.

>>15794736
Jesus Christ, look at this product of public "education". Doesn't even know basic history.

>> No.15796741

>>15796367
Are you Australian?

>> No.15796744

We're in decline because we're not Rome anymore. Electing someone with the mental capacity of a 10 year old, along with bloodsucking republicans who serve the wealthiest, didn't help. Trickle down economics has poisoned the well for over 40 years. Every time we start to climb out of the hole dug by that shit economic hypothesis, a bunch of backwoods retards decide we need another dose of poison. It's because their overlords hype up issues that don't even really effect them - sometimes issues that don't have any real implications of economic effect.

>> No.15796750

>>15796741
You better believe it, Gamers 4 Croyden 4 lyfe

>> No.15796760

>>15796750
What the fuck, my tripcode changed.
Is it because I'm on mobile internet now?

>> No.15796765

>>15796689
>public "education"
probably by design, why teach something that will make them question the system, when half of the purpose of the school system is to get the new generation ready to serve that system?
>>15796744
pretending that only one or the other party is complicit in corruption is ridiculous - both parties are on the take.

>> No.15796772

>>15796744
grown ups are talking here faggot go back to your marxist containment site

>> No.15796865

>>15796765
>both parties are on the take.
Not on the same degree.

>>15796772
Not an argument. Take your low IQ bullshit back to your containment board
Also
>1 post by this ID
You haven't even posted anything about the topic yet. Fuck off cuck

>> No.15796881

>>15794736
>>15794783
The sentiment behind it may be real, and Britain's attempts to prevent America from expanding its money supply (a far more unreasonable action than imposing taxes) was one of the main justifications for the declaration of independence. But the quote itself is almost certainly fake.

>> No.15796914

>>15796865
Youd be suprised, its common practice for corporations and lobby groups to hedge thier bets by donating equally to both parties, so that no matter who wins they still have leverage.
This is also the reason these groups are so vehemently opposed to election reform, the strategy is significantly less effective in a system with proportional representation.

>> No.15796939

>>15796914
this. also I'm not sure how anybody could still defend the Dems after the 2016 election. don't take that as me defending the Reps, they're both scum.

>> No.15796950

>>15796939
This is the argument I get into all the time. Republican friends say what about Biden. Democrat friends say impeach Trump. They can both be pieces of shit, it's not an either or.

Burn the whole fucking thing down.

>> No.15796991

>>15796950
our government is slimy as fuck, but the average American is still much too comfortable to do anything physical about it.

>> No.15797015

>>15796744
You have to be a special kind of retard to think Democratic economic policies have been any more effective.
>markets crashing, wat do Obama??
>lets throw a shitload of taxpayer dollars at the banks to reward them for their shitty behavior

Massive inflation + 0% interest rates was the kick off to this massive bubble and exponential increase in wealth inequality so don't pretend that these government gibs socialist fucks are any better.

By the way, Trumps gonna win.

>> No.15797097

>>15797015
Obama was the biggest corporate shill of all time.

>> No.15797507

>>15796750
kek

>> No.15798669

>>15797015
>lets throw a shitload of taxpayer dollars at the banks to reward them for their shitty behavior

It's better than having the banks close and everyone lose their money in a bank run.

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>>15798669
they did lose their money

>> No.15798748

>>15796760
No, 4chan knows who you are no matter which device or IP you use fucking retard.

>> No.15798750

>>15795411
Yeah Haiti would be a paradise if they only had proper monetary policy

t. a literal retarded ape at a keyboard

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>>15798750
>can't understand reality past skin color
>calls me an ape
the criminals that are produced by debasement are responsible for the rape of haiti