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For those interested I'll be replying to your questions if you want to learn how to do this. It's a pretty small niche at the moment so the profits are high.

>>15787790
good scam

>>15787790
>>15787809
HOLY FUCK PLEASE MAKE A GUIDE RIGHT NOW I'LL SEND YOU 1 LINK!!!

>>15787809
interesting idea anon. where/how do you buy followers anymore? i thought social media sites figured out how to stop that long ago. i used to run a couple IG accounts got a few thousand followers and made like 20 bucks off it so i stopped trying, but that was years ago. any ideas on how to start?

>>15787827

Not a scam. Same as buying Off-White, you can buy same shit at Walmart but because of the hype around it people buy into it, exactly as any shitcoin.

>>15787837
Find a particular niche, for me I usually use an automated service that posts hot babes, get a nice handle for example @babes or something, get few thousand fake followers to get onto 'Creator' status then it snowballs.

>>15787846

There are services my favorite by far is smmtube (.) pro - they good at what they do at cheap rate.

IG is a total shitshow and a cluster fuck I know people who can get your iG verified because their servers are so insecure you can literary even ban people via enough false flags if they piss ya off.

Don't buy too many fake followers unless you know your account is gonna sell quick. I usually buy fake followers when I garner enough interest, to show the buyer the account has a massive boom. Then they usually drop off. NEVER sell on fameswap its full of scammers.

>>15787854
What sites do you trade with? Both the bot buying sites and the actual account trading sites.
I'd imagine that @babes and handles like that would be fucking expensive. Startup price?

>>15787790
Pretty smart idea fren. I'm kinda a brainlet when it comes to social media marketing but who and where do you sell it to?

How do i gain followers on the accounts?

>>15787885
Easiest way is to actually list your IG for sale on the actual IG account itself. Then you have full control. EpicNPC is a good place to start but they ban everyone and everything if you just so much post a meme.

Start small, but in a niche that isn't as competitive. I usually look at Google Trends for what people search for the most, e.g. 4 years ago it would of been vegan foods etc. so create accounts based on that and just automatically repost shit from other accounts using something like www.yes.al (sign up for a trial its good for reposts)

>>15787886
Look at above. EpicNPC / BlackhatWorld is good

>>15787896
Reposts, hashtags, tagging people (THAT FOLLOW YOU AND YOU FOLLOW - if not IG will disable your account) Make sure you have a valid phone number and email to the IG account and link it to a facebook page so incase buyer tries to scam you you can get it back.

When selling the account make sure to include the original email address too, it will increase the value of the account.

>>15787885

There are some arabic sites that I cant list that hack accounts and then launder the name through many accounts until they change it to the one they will sell as a way to show that the handle cant be given back to the original owner thats how @boom got theirs (from what im told).

Other ways is to buy an automated name grabber that will constantly check for usernames you list and once available it will automatically change it to the name you selected.

>>15787929
Man this thread is already gold, thank you so much anon.
Literally going to start this shit right now.
Is the selling finicky? Do you disclose to the buyer whether or not the majority if not all of the followers are bots or can you straight up lie without repercussions?

>>15787896
You can also just buy an automated story viewing service and view 10m stories a day. If you are a babe account it will net you thousands of organic followers a day, for other niches its a lot harder (so fake bot followers + reposts are good for them).

>>15787954
Nah never. Its their responsibility to check. If they ask tell them to check themselves. 99% of the services out there that say they can tell if followers are fake or real are BSing because its impossible to check.

If you have a really high value account that you want to sell. For eg I sold one for $75,000 last month to a big soda brand that they will rebrand. To be sure it was safe, I bought tons of likes and comments so my engagement rate was like 4% just incase they put it through any websites that check engagement. In reality Kim K and the Rock only have an engagement rate of 0.2% so just make sure you add some fake ass comments and likes. if its a high value account. Usually brands dont care its more of the influencer types that wanna get famous but if they ask tell them you wont sell to them, then they usually come back wanting it even more and you just increase the price

>>15787954

Use something like gramalytics.com to check engagement rate and use the report to send to the people buying. Brands wont care that much because they delete/archive all the posts anyway they just want the followers.

> Use yes.al to repost/schedule your content
> Use gramalytics.com to generate reports and see traction
> Use EpicNPC (they offer escrow which is good) or BlackhatWorld to garner interest and sell (also list it acc is for sale on the actual acc)
> Use something like smmtube / smmkings to buy followers/comments/likes and story views to increase engagement

Usually if I get an account for like $250 I can expect to sell it for $4,500 / $7,000 and it doesnt take that much effort at all

>>15787980
How many followers did that account have?
Really 75k? Wtf no way.

>>15788012

It had around 435,000 followers. I sold one for $125,000 to a brand that had 1.2m followers in the fitness niche. Some accounts can be worth up to $1,000,000 thats not a joke either. I know some people making serious bank with it.

Always invest in niches, cars/healthy lifestyle pages are over saturated so always check google trends on what you think you could capitalize on. Hot babe accounts still work tho because 99% of IG users are pervs lol

>>15787980
>>15788008
>>15788026
Absolutely amazing.
Are the payments safe? You ever been fucked over?
How long have you been doing this and how much have you made overall?
Best thread in /biz/ for a long time.
I would suck your cock anon not lying.

>>15788026
How'd you get 435k followers though and what do you post? I've never used social media in my life. But I'll learn it if I can make 50k.

>>15787929
wait so when you sell, what information do you give them for the account? i assume everything but the facebook page? phone number, email + pass? never sold an account of anything before so unsure of the protocol - cheers lad

>>15787953
Outside of these options, are there ways where you can buy these handles at relatively cheap prices? As in, a marketplace that focuses on just handles?

>>15788026
Do they pay you in bitcoin for the account? ;)

Do you do botting for games and sell acounts or game items by any chance? Is botting in game saturated?

>>15788042
Depends who is your buyer. Be weary of time wasters or people who over-promise and wanna-be rappers that think because they have a big IG following will explode, they usually never pay.

Use EpicNPC because of their escrow service. Once you agree for payment another person usually one of their mods or admins will take the account from you, change all the details, and once you receive the money they will pass on your account to the buyer. I've never got burnt using this method.

Direct methods got burnt twice badly, lost an account with 2m followers but thankfully had the chance to recover it through months of bothering Facebook support because the jackass didnt change the OG email.

>>15788044
Viewing stories/reposting/and getting shout outs + few thousand fake followers a month to get IG algorithm to put me in the top of recommended accounts when you follow similar accounts and on top of the discovery section.

>>15788047
Usually everything. Dont give them the phone number but have a recovery option available if needs be. If you are going to give them the original email too with the account make sure that email has a recovery email too incase something goes wrong so you still have some control.

>>15788050
Good handles are hard to comeby so they demand $$$ you could always think up of made up words that have something to do with your niche but usually its hard.

IG has an algorithmic function where if a user follows a ton of babe accounts and types in the letter 'a' in the search bar they'd get shown their following accounts and then underneath recommended to follow accounts. So what I do is the above to make sure the account is recommended and on top of the discovery tab.

IG wont ban you for fake followers but they will disable you if you keep spamming, tagging people without consent or DMing people too much.

>>15788026
Also, what email service do you use? If you have to constantly use tons of email addresses I imagine its usefull to go with something that asks for little private details.

>>15788076
Steam accounts are still good sell. NEVER accept altcoins because they are worthless pile of shit you cant cash out. Unless they pay in Bitcoin and you have full control then yes.

Other than that, find a MMO that is taking off or mobile game that has a big following but that takes a lot of time to get good levels on and you can sell that.

>>15788091
Gmail. Only because of the built in security features.

>>15788090

>>15788103
Okay and what about name when you sign up an account anything you put into that field specifically?

>>15788090
im pretty big in modelmaking, is that too niche/nerdy ya think? also im into nerdy tg shit so maybe i can get into the nerd niche. also how did you start with this stuff? did you just start making accounts or did you start right off the bat buying accounts?

>>15788108

Can use anything you want. Doesnt matter. Nobody needs to know your personal details unless you are selling via Paypal. But then again dont scam people and you will be good. Business is business. I have 3 marketing agencies based in LA who pay me monthly to get high following accounts they can use for their clients to generate hype quickly.

Its also a lot easier to get verified when you have a high follower rate. If you can get verified, a verified user with 0 followers can net $2,500 but once you change the handle the verification is gone. Make sure not to tell this when you sell its their job to figure it out, unless you are really honest about it.

>>15788116

If you you can be the top user in that niche, yes, definitely worth it. Usually after you sell the account the buyer deletes all the posts and changes the username and start their own niche.

Only on few rare occasions did I have a buyer to keep posting in the same niche. Most change it to whatever they want because they want the followers.

>>15788129
Can I get like a mail address from you a throwaway? I'd like to try it. Maybe if you're interested I can sell it to you if your clients are interested?

>>15788145
one more thing, does mass following still work? how do buyers feel about accounts that have hundreds/thousands following?

>>15788095
Have you ever ended up getting scammed by a buyer through cashbacks etc...

Do you use Paypal friends and family option for selling?

>>15788155
What? I dont recommend using throwaway services use well known providers, if you use a spam email IG will ban you.
>>15788161
Nope, I dont recommend. Follow as little people as possible, it will make your account seem more real and less spammy. To buyers and iG itself. If you have a ratio of 100:80 for example where you have a following of 100k but follow 80k then nobody will buy from you as you need to manually unfollow everyone and nobody got time for that. For every 1k people following you follow 1-2 people. The lesser is the better.

>>15788163
Never done any cashbacks. If you do it via EpicNPC then yeah friends and family works. Both are protected by it. Seller more so. Its like any other business, i get a lot of repeat customers especially brands and influencers who want to get their friends accounts. I think 80% now is repeat business. So be honest and make sure you sell to the right people and never scam or attempt to do it as your reputation will get ruined.

Over what period of time are you building up theae accounts? Doenat it look suspicious of your build up an account with 250k followers in like 3 months? Even with alot of reposts etc? It still shows the start date in your timeline ...

>>15788201

Nah. I can make an account today and sell it tomorrow if I wanted to. Nobody gives a fuck about history because most people delete the og posts anyway so its a non issue.

>>15788222
Have you done any other website flipping and such before getting into the social media account flipping game? What future plans you have in terms of internet making monies? :)

>>15788222
how do you get the initial followers? do you always buy them all or do you actually strive for some organic growth?

>>15788236

Website flipping is old game now unless you have a powerful domain and a lot of traffic. Which you can also buy.

Look at venture.com lease a good domain, sell a ton of shit and cash out.

so far made $1.5 m from just selling IG/Youtube/Steam and Twitter accounts in the last 2 years.

Why?

Because people get what everyone want, fame and recognition that is tangible. Aint my problem if all their followers drop like a rock. But thats the consequence they face when they change niche... or thats what they told. Which they accept.

>>15788244

Organic growth is 5% of the account - everything else is fake. Unless its a babe account which then is 50/50.

Start of small, invest some $500 then with the profit do it again and again and again just dont get greedy or else you will be fucked.

>>15788222
I'm still not clear on the content. Is all of it really reposts as you mentioned above?

For your niche, is your focus on content about babes, or are you pretending to be a babe?

For any niche, are you sharing content about it as if you are an authority?

>>15788271
Organic content doesnt matter its only there to kind of look legit and get some organic traffic and increase your engagement (with fake comments and likes)

Why world somebody buy a generic Account with only fake Followers
Makes no sense

>>15788310
So dont buy it nobody asked you to. 99% of people out there dont know how to get followers and want a quick and easy way. You exchange your time for money. 101 business faggot.

>>15788318
So they buy and then realize they were scammed? Sounds retarded

>>15788318
you're not the one selling likes and comments or w/e the fuck you call it on instagram? Preying on gullible anons here?

>>15788329
no you dumb faggot. they buy an account that has a following that they want because they dont have the knowledge/skill or the time required to build their own.

>>15788350
what are you talking about

Can you just use girls (or whatever) pics without getting into trouble? Or is it call good if you post give them credit. What service do you use for the pics?

>>15788382
FedEx

>>15788366
They have no following though because you bought the engagement like you told us
No one will be interested in the brand and the Account will look fake as fuck and be deleted

>>15788382
I usually tag them (if i follow them) they are more likely to also shoutout your account on their stories especially if you got 15k+ followers then it just becomes a follower booster on its own as well.

classic scam, OP describes a scheme then gives links to "services" he supposedly uses to execute upon it. In reality OP is the one selling the services and creates threads like these as free advertisement

>>15788401
shut the fuck up retard. you dont know jack shit. Try it and then come and talk bullshit. Im sharing my knowledge with /biz/ so fuck off this thread.

For anyone curious about this stuff, blackhatworld.com has a lot of discussions about it

>>15788373
You know what I'm talking about. Don't play dumb it only makes you look shady.

God damn biz is so retarded. No, this won't work.

>>15788415
classic shitcoin investor.

Maybe get off your ass and try something else. if you think i got time to run around promoting stuff then you wrong. Im sharing this so other /biz/ anons can get in on this and make money.

If you havent tried it then you cant talk jack shit. Try it then come @me faggot

>>15788421
What should i try fake a following? I have an organic following and that was Hard work

>>15788427

EpicNPC is best for this sort of stuff. Their whole site is based on it. Plus escrow.

>>15788428
You trying to push your throwaway email service faggot, fuck off. Go on EpicNPC or as above said and look. Fucking dumb retard. This is last reply you get.

>>15788430
Another retard. Try it then come at me and say it wont work.

>>15788433
cringe

>>15788433
cringe. Sage

>>15788440
You literary are fucking retarded. How are you even on /biz/. People fake a following so they can get hype around themselves. Especially brands. I swear you shitcoin investors piss me off, holding your shitcoin as holy investment. Try something else before you call yourself a lambo entrepreneur. Faggot.

>>15788445
Was litterly asking for your trowaway. You really give yourself away, you're not from this board nor do you care about anyone's welfare here. You're just here to shill your shitty services. Goddam fucking kid. Go play with your dick.

>>15788445
I have an organic 6k youtube account with 4 million views. How much can I expect to sell it for? I see an advertisement on EpicNPC for a 1k sub youtube account with 83k views, selling for $290 BTC??? Seems like a bit much.

>2 hour old thread
>28 posts by this ID

yep, im thinking hes cringe

>>15788462
People build their brand organically because they actually Do something relevant

>>15788467
Because i got time to run websites with thousands of users like EpicNPC or Blackhatworld, you are retarded. No wonder /biz/ is a laughing stock because of kids like you who dont actually do anything /biz/ related but spam this board with shitcoin threads then when all is lost you spam stupid wojak memes.

Only og /biz/ users will appreciate this thread.

So where do you buy the accounts you want to grow, from epicnpc or approach the handles directly? Can’t be any good names left for most niches by this point

>>15788483
You sure get defensive pretty quickly. Did you run out of 16y/o's to scam?

>>15788474
Depends what niche. YouTube is valuable. Especially if its monetized and verified (phone number verification)

I sold a YT account with 60k subs and 3m views for $13k - look on the board for some similar accounts and price it accordingly.

>>15788486

You either

>create one organically and grow it by the mentioned methods previously
>buy already existing one with a good handle and following then boost it
or
>you just buy a handle and assign it to your one

>>15788503
This is my original youtube account, scored the million views and 6k organic subs posting earrape edits of random songs. It's verified with my own phone number, how can I go about changing it to a number that isn't my own and have it verified?

Also how would you go about boosting youtube accounts effectively and organically without reposting viral videos and eventually getting your monetisation fucked cause of the increasingly strict youtube copyright laws?

>>15788541
Nobody will buy your shit account

>>15788541
stfu

Thank you for the info OP. It doesn't really hurt to try this.

>>15787809
Do you worry about getting sued for fraud over the useless bot accounts if they find out? I know you most likely never explicitly claim they're real followers, but that wouldn't stop some pissed brand trying to fuck you with lawyers as much as possible for revenge.

>>15788555
>>15788558
OP is right about you crying shitcoin fags.

>>15788581
No brand would be stupid enough for such scams

How do you get the 100k followers? You have a site you buy bots from?

>>15788620
he runs the site

>>15788637
>he runs the site
Holy fuck he owns Insta Gram!

>>15787929
>phone number
>facebook page
Do you use your real/personal ones? I'd be worried about shady pajeet buyers being able to trace my hustle back to my real identity.

>>15788645
kek you're desperate
kys

>>15787790
What option do you recommend for gaining followers through smmtube?

Should I go with the guaranteed/refill option or the non-refill one?

>>15788541
Daily Dose of the Internet does it well, copy his strats. He asks permission first from videos he comes across on 4chan and reddit. Thats one way to quickly grow an audience.

Else you can buy fake views/subscribers. Socialblade is good at detecting it tho, so you need to try and play and algorithm to make sure it looks legit.. 1k subs a day and 2-3k views a day per video is good. But its a big investment in money.

>>15788581
Brands dont care. Usually they just buy the account for one of their products, their marketing teams contact advertising agencies specializing in social, those agencies buy from guys like me. They just want to fluff the numbers. Im not talking about huge corporations like coca cola or unilever im talking about more smaller brands.

>>15788709
Use a Facebook page connected to a business account. The only thing they can see once they login is the page but not where it connects to, a page can be anything you want and can have any info you want. Doesnt need to be real.

>>15788798
Refill one definitely. Once the followers stop dropping you can refill them for free.

>>15788594
If you ever dealt with a marketing department you know they have a budget and a goal of engagement they need to achieve. Its easier to buy an account with some engagement / followers to start off with than to build one. It also plays IGs shit algorithm because as previously mentioned the higher the follower count the higher chance of more engagement + creator profile. Google for Facebook Creators, once you have high enough following register for that, it will give an extra boost to your IG account if you use Facebooks tools.

>>15788582
thanks
>>15788569
Nope it doesnt. You dont need to try it. Im just sharing my knowledge with /biz/ and not spamming shit altcoin threads with hopes of buying a lambo.
>>15788555
his account aint shit. It has value. Any account with over 20k views and some subscribers can be valuable. If it still has the function of changing username then its even more valuable.

Whole lot of player hating up in this thread and I don't quite get why. Pretty interesting read. Cheers OP.

>>15789163
looking on the site, it seems most of the accounts are no where near the numbers youre posting. for example a babe account with 22k followers is listed at $110. how are you able to command such a high price?

>>15788318

>>15789458
Just sharing my knowledge and trying to get /biz/ out of the shitcoin rut its in.
>>15789500
Depends on who is selling, the cheap accounts are probably being thrown out by Indian sellers who just botted Indian followers. It could also mean the account has exchanged hands at least 5 times and doesnt come with anything else.

feelin inspired, just started my account and i aint gettin shit! no followers, not even any likes either. ill stick with it though and hopefully have at least 1k followers by next week

>>15790360
Just keep posting in your niche and buy up some followers to kickstart it. Good luck anon. Rooting for you!

>>15790404
thanks anon. ill post a thread a week from now to let you know how things are going

>>15787790
What sort of accounts though? Instagram? Twitter? Any of them?

>>15790711
IG and YouTube are most valuable.
Facebook Pages second
Twitter, TikTok and Snapchat and others next

>>15787790
DELETE T
HIS

Lol, just checked the IPs

Sage this faggot, same nigger from the Venture.com thread.

>>15790898

Someone needs to go back to pleddit and wtf is venture

>>15788483
>i run the websites im shilling in this thread
there we go

>>15788145
how come you need to buy a name for 500-2000 if theyre going to change the name anyway?

>>15791247
Some of them dont. Thats only if you want to make it really valuable.

>>15790918
>>15790898
>>15788252

Gottem

>>15788252
>look at venture.com lease a good domain, sell a ton of shit and cash out.

>>15790918
>wtf is venture
caught ya faggot scammer

How come people on black hate sell accounts for so cheap? Is it worth buying and reselling?

>>15792025
black hat* lel

>>15792025
Yeah it is. EpicNPC is better tho