/biz/ - Business & Finance

1st for poopoopeepee

2nd for golden dildos

>>15769218
Fucking based

>>15769157
>>15769178
Thanks y'all. I got burned bad when just starting investments but I made back almost all my losses; I'm not new but I don't have time to manage, that's why I asked.

THREADLY REMINDER THAT DIVIDENDS ARE YOUR FREN

Who else here excited for /KO/ divvy tomorrow?

>>15769237
fuckberries

>>15769199
Tlrd pls hit 7 dollars again.

>>15769237
>when dividends don't start paying off until ten years later

I got something for you Bobos

LPTXbros...How we feeling

Some madman just bought over 25 thousand AMD calls to 65 (SIXTY FIVE)

Anyone following BB? 52 week low, should I buy? Are investors overreacting to the shit earnings report?

I've been casually following BB for a while and desu the company seems to consistently disappoint.

Looks like that famous atheist magician guy was correct in his prediction. BWL.a announced the dividend and did not do an annual raise, the bot let down its defenses

So what are the meme stocks this week?

>>15769332
NAKD earnings today it's either gonna pump or dump hard. This is probably do or die for the listing.

>>15769322
Yeah that was me

CHEEEEEEEN

>>15769322
based AMD chad ryzen up

>>15769322
I would have only bought 15 thousand
good for him though

>>15769321
just bought more shares to drag my average down under $2
LPTX is 0.22% of my RH portfolio though, so I don't think I really count as a true LPTXbro

>>15769322
What is that on?

Good luck. Show proof of the ten million dollar stack you made if it hits

you guys remember laughing at this two weeks ago? It was the OP pic for a /smg/ around 9/16 or 9/17

>>15769364
I made it lads

I've gotten something like $1k in stocks from my parents in AMD and SQM, should I just sell it now and get the 1k, hold on to both, or sell SQM at a loss and dump the money somewhere else? Minimum wagie so I can't put much more money into it for a while.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/rep-christopher-collins-to-change-not-guilty-plea-in-insider-trading-case/


HAHAHA GET FUCKED DICKBAG.

Down another 5 % what the God damn fuck

>>15769289
>when 10-15 years down the line you don't need to sell any asset to pay for your bills because its all passive income

the goals we have and the way getting there may differ

>>15769376
noice

>>15769379
Amd is like $28-$29 right now. Wait till it gets higher to sell.

>>15769402
>he doesn’t know that Warren is going to increase dividend taxes to 50% and tax stock buybacks at 75%

>>15769390

>>15769357
option sonar

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jmu6K-00Ztw

CHINK SPY
DRUMPF TO ANNOUNCE NEW TARIFFS AND SANCTIONS ON CHINA
SELL SELL SELL

Just bought 200 NAKD wish me luck

WHAT JUST HAPPENED

DID I MISS THE TIVX CHEAPIES?!

>>15769439
Fuck it's actually real. Click the link smg.

Getting kinda scared about my options guys. Part of me wants to bail even though they expire between a few weeks to months.

So what is the purpose of all options having a set expiration date? Why is it that you could buy something on the 25 that's set to expire for the 4ty of next month and also be able to buy something on the 30 only to have it expire on the 4th of next month as well? What is the significance of that?

>>15769250
Don't worry, I checked the Ultimate Oscillator on Friday and it said TLRD still has room to run.

>>15769439
Should i sell my calls on companies that deal with china?

>>15769439
>>15769458
fuck the chinks
fuck the chink spies and sympathizers

I look forward to the DoJ fact sheet

>>15769475
I think it's because of volume or the need to create volume. If there is too many different contracts, it would be harder to find a buyer/seller and the product becomes less attractive.

>>15769496
Get ready for immediate and total Huawei ban, and full tariffs. Markets will drop 5% before crash protection kicks in.

WATCH OUT FOR THE TRUMP TWEET

>>15769439
FUCK YOU FOX NEWS SHILL
THIS IS NOTHING

They’re charging someone with being a spy? Big fucking deal everyone knows there’s spies.

If oil would kindly extend a wick down to 50.50 this week i would preciate

>>15769521
meant for>>15769492

>>15769521
Alresdy sold my calls. Not sure if i should double down on my puts which are down at the moment. Hurry give me advice anons i suck at the stock market but want to stay a neet!!!!!

Why won't SNSS go back up AHHhhhhhhHhh

>>15769458
>>15769439
Pieces of shit
You tricked me into buying tvix waaaaay earlier than I wanted to. Fuck you.

Now I’m stuck HODLing until Hong Kong explodes tonight.

>>15769575
You bought too early. There's no reason for it to go up until mid Nov and TA is shit cause liquidity is low and delisting is coming.

>>15769426
>he doesn't know Trump is going to win in a landslide in 2020

>>15769575
I don't get it why you penny pharma memebros are doing this to yourselves. How much did you chip in? 100? 300? Isn't it easier to gamble on sports or smth?

>>15769557
>>15769595
>they took real advice from /sexless midgets general/
lmao
thanks for the free money

>>15769595
What's in hong kong tonight?

>>15769617
A bomb

>>15769605
Trump will win but only by an extremely small fraction which will further the divide in political controversy

>>15769610
You’re a real piece of crap and you’ll get yours one day.

>>15769444
So you spent 10 dollars?

>>15769595
All you had to do was follow the link ceejay

>>15769575
This has been the pattern since June man. Just HODL until December or add to your position like I did

>>15769617
Well, tonight is nothing.

But tomorrow is the anniversary or whatever of China. It’s like their July 4th.

(But they’re not celebrating independence)

>>15769649
Buy the Fear, Sell the Greed :^)

Actually fuck it, I'll gamble a little on NAKD. Just bought 2000 shares, let's see what happens.

>>15769650
Damb straight

>>15769659
Difficult from mobile
>>15769673
You’re that same asshole who posted the fake trump tweet, aren’t you? Fuckoff.

>>15769535
I'm about to long it again

>>15769327
my goodness, you're a godless magician now too?

My buys ain't buying and my sells ain't selling. I'm in bowling purgatory!

I didn't want to say anything but I'm actually Snoop Dogg. Is it time to start loading om weed stocks ma nigga?

>>15769788
>You’re that same asshole who posted the fake trump tweet, aren’t you? Fuckoff.

About apple tarriffs? No that was me

>>15769824
I wish. I can only do the coin matrix

>>15769825
Snoop, why does LCIguy keep posting pictures of you?

>>15769825
buy them

How did you guys do for September ?

I'm down 12%

>>15769910
Well I just sold my GME for 20% gains at $5.60.

>>15769879
Heh. I like it when he throws things in the garbage.

All I need is for NAKD and GHSI to hit 5 dollars

How is it legal for these financial companies to state what they believe the stock price for a stock should be, WHEN they have
>massive influence
>likely self interest on said stock going up, down, or flat
>possible self interest in certain price movements if a big wig in said company has a family member who is invested in calls or puts for example

Also how do I take advantage when a large financial company states the price should be $20 higher/lower by the end of the year?

>>15769910
down like 30%. I'll be back

>>15769998
price targets don't matter
most of the pedestrian level "analysis" that you see as a retail investor is just some intern kid filling out a template.
the people who have real, proprietary high level information aren't tossing it out to retail investors for peanuts

think of information as a tiered structure, because that's what it is. brokerage price targets are based on low tier information.

Every fiber of my being is telling me to go on put options yet the logocal side is telling me to not be stupid. How do you anons deal with options trading?

I'm hearing that NAKD isn't doing their earnings today after all. So basically I just threw that 67 bucks away. Oh well.

>>15769927
Nice.. i'm waiting for a dip to buy more.. took some gains at 5.50 but still holding some... shit is looking very strong

If you comsistently bought tqqq calls every month, with expirations set around current price wouldn’t you make lots more on average than just tqqq or s&p? Think it’s likely to lose money long term?

>>15770093
Scare tactic

>>15769910
up a little less than 1%

>>15769321
I had no position before, but I bought 1,000 shares today.

>>15770115
You make less on average because you're paying premium to buy the contract.

>>15770069
>How do you anons deal with options trading?
mostly, we don't
the people who do high-activity options trading tend to pass through the threads with an average (median) lifespan of 3 weeks. there will usually be a 2-4 day "king of the world" timeframe where they think they cracked the free money code and get really enthusiastic

>>15770115
if it was an easy consistent way to make money in any market conditions, why would people sell the calls at those (hypothetical) prices?
they probably wouldn't !
the possible price movement probabilities are accounted for in the price of the options (premium).

>REFR cheapies
I'm down over 6% dick

>>15769998
Just as it is legal for banks to manipulate stock prices when it doesn't fit to the options they wrote.

>>15770142
>the possible price movement probabilities are accounted for in the price of the options (premium).
You aren't supposed to hold options until expiry.
They also tend get iv wrong half of the time.

How bad is it doc?

Can anyone explain the case for buying uvxy/vixy/viix calls instead of stacking TVIX?

It feels so expensive to pay $100+ for something that expires at the end of the week, but I did just buy $200 of TVIX. Am I mindfucking myself?

>>15770212
>You aren't supposed to hold options until expiry.
that doesn't really have anything to do with what I said
>They also tend get iv wrong half of the time.
who is "they"? are "they" the buyer or seller of the option(s), or are "they" just a hypothetical counter-party?
what about our side of the trade, and our IV calculation? if the market is "wrong" about IV (forward-looking?), then of course we might want to find a good position to take advantage of that
my response to the other poster was to try and give some ideas about why a hypothetical options strategy might not be "free money". The answer is still going to be something like "premium accounts for most likely future price movements, especially when integrated forward into a repeating strategy"

>>15770227
you buy the calls to leverage up a timing play
higher risk, higher reward

>>15769475
You need the contracts to be fairly uniform in order for them to generate the volume need to be liquid, and to have price discovery occur.

The bond market has a much higher variation in products, and it's an opaque clusterfuck for that reason.

Naked just went up 1.5% off that one candle

10% again but with a contrarIan play. Bought a put near the top and watched it go down a bit during power hour for a quick scalp.

https://www.ft.com/content/ec16ab7c-e37e-11e9-9743-db5a370481bc
>PayPal is first foreign company to win Chinese payments licence
>US group acquires 70% of Gopay, beating Visa and Mastercard to market
I don't think PayPal can compete effectively with established payment processors in China.

PHIO at 60 cents EOY

2.75 end of 2020


Screencap this

>>15770393
Bad for MA?

Ding ding ding! How did everyone do today? I'm down .14%, disappointing day. CGC slips below 23, that's not a good sign. My bowling ball orders didn't fill either wtf

SOON

USO calls gang ww@?

>bro buy these TRQ cheapies

>bro buy these REFR cheapies

>bro buy these LPTX cheapies

>bro buy these GALT cheapies

>bro buy these ACB cheapies

Fuck you all

>>15770429
Same here. Merck tried to save me, but gave up too much of its gains in the last inning.

Not sure why I didn’t trim out of CGC when that analyst set a crazy low PT. Terrible.

September: no thanks

>>15770466
buy refr @3

>>15770429
up near 6% for september month
Got Del Taco shares under 10, will probably sell tommrow. Now back to Cocoon mode

>>15770429
GME needs to dip so I can buy more shares!!!!

>>15770429
Man what a crazy day. I somehow managed to make money between early day limit sells and mid day dip buys on this extremely bearish day for weed.

MO up a nice 1.9% and appears to be in a consolidation or maybe distribution pattern. Trimmed my index position a little due to technical weakness. Sitting at 50% cash.

ALGO is about to fucking explode...... ETH 2.0 and the algo team are working together.

>>15770466
I’m HODLing these LPTX “cheapies”
Not sure why they sold off, hoping it’s just the typical action , like when it sold off to 1.35 then pumped to 2+

Really hope no one showed something at ESGO or whatever it’s called this past weekend that got the jump on their drug. Haven’t been following as close as I should.

You just gotta talk angry at it see

Fuck I forgot to set a stop loss on NAKD

>>15770509
MO is going to $30.......

why you have been pumping it since $60 is beyond me......................................

>>15770429
Down 10% from the get-go thanks to morning bears and now I'm down to 13% by the end of it all. Total shitshow of a run today. Praying for MFST and MU to get their shit together before 10/04 or else it's gonna be a long way down from the $300 I currently have to my name

What in the actual fuck

>>15770577
thanks for the laugh

>>15770429
Down $300 today, down exactly $1000 since I started.

>>15770558
>pumping it since $60
I haven't? The highest price i bought was 43.60.

>>15769667
So how crazy will the riots be when the PLA sends in tanks and APCs?

Not convinced by this "recovery". The highs can't break the lows and bearish volume is way higher.

>>15770429
Not doing to well. Am considering just ditching the stock market.

why does JPMorgan want to see 4 cameras on the back of the iphone?

>>15770625
MO is going to $30.....

>>15770640
Down about 1k btw.

>>15770640
I have went from +65% to +20% since July

>>15769324
Been thinking about it as well desu, the turnaround may still pay off, but frankly I don't see them ever getting the smartphone market share again.

>>15770622
Yeesh, sorry man. Hope you can find a way to recover

>>15770640
>Am considering just ditching the stock market.
when did you start?

It sounds like stock market isn't right for you.. stock market is for problem solvers.. people that don't give up.. people that are persistant.. people that make goals and push their ways toward them.. if you aren't that person.. then yeah.. you should probably give up like the limp wrist pussy your father raised..........

>>15770640
>>15770656
What is your portfolio?

>>15770640
Did you do your research before getting involved?

What’s the downside to selling way OTM covered calls on stock I’m already up on?

Why would i ever do direct sale at all instead of choosing a strike price and milking premium till it hits?

my stonks stink

>>15770676
From the looks of things, he's one of your disciples.

>>15770746
>he's one of your disciples
I didn't know you thought so highly of me

>>15770663
I've been here before.

I just can't seem to hold on to recovery. The moment I'm green again, the Dems invent a new Trump scandal and the market tanks to lower lows than the last one.

I am heavy into $AVMXY. Burn treatment company.

Just got uplisted to NASDAQ effective tomorrow. Long live $RCEL!!

>>15770420
I don't think it matters
They aren't even competing in the same market

when NAKD makes me rich I'll give everyone ITT 1 bitcoin

>>15770846
Thanks fren!

>>15770740
Did you put them away wet?

>>15770807
Did yo post this on /g/?
Why are you so sure about this?
Biotech is traditionally p&d.

>>15770846
put on a trip so we can either A. ask you for the bitcoin everday or B. make fun of you when your trade goes to shit...

>>15770873

bet

>>15770882
>NakedMan
LMAO!!!

fucking perfect!! I might have to buy just because of your trip lol

>>15770915
$0.12 EOW

>>15770882
When can i expect my btc?

>>15770927
When it goes back to 3500

>>15770925
I just bought 5,555 shares for shits and giggles.. might even buy more

>inb4 NAKD to .01

>>15770676
Stock market is for alcoholics, drug addicts, and degenerate gamblers. Also attracts a few gay fetishists who like it when boys dress up like girls.

The days of Lynch, Graham and Buffet are over. Stock market is for creeps and weirdos.

>>15770956
no.. shut up.. we're going to the moon

>>15770969
Linklet spotted

>>15770969
You shouldn't have such a bad opinion about yourself

>>15770969
have sex cryptshit

>>15770969
Alright. I'm still learning how to play.

>>15770969
only the brave and strong shall survive..

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-09-30/chinese-techcrunch-rival-36kr-holdings-files-for-u-s-ipo
>36Kr Holdings Inc., a Chinese website that tracks startup fundraising in the country,filedfor a U.S. initial public offering.
>The Beijing-based company, founded in 2010, listed the size of the offering at $100 million, a placeholder amount likely to change, according to filing Monday with theU.S. Securities and Exchange Commission. It plans to trade on Nasdaq Global Select Market.

>>15770969
Problem?

>>15770938
when is NAKD date of compliance?

I’m probably about 5% crypto, 75% stock, 20% cash

>>15770969
Sounds fuckin awesome

>>15770659
Ouch.

>>15770676
>problem solvers
Lol at you

>>15770678
Mainly options now. The majority of stocks I own are just the garbage ones I got when I was a bigger noob.

>>15770718
Sorta, just wasn't expecting a jump in the options I was trading. Still holding them though as I have suspicions that I'm one tweet away from it being down 1k, to being up 1k (due to Trump's behavior). Or should a recession occur I'll be up bigly.

>>15770746
No.>>15770774

>>15771019
60% pleasure, 80% pain. 110% gain

>>15771019
No bonds senpai?

>>15770846
I doubt you will, i sure as heck wouldn't.

>>15770997
They received a 180 extension around the beginning of August

>>15771019
For
>>15770981

Long live the creeps and weirdos

>>15771031
>the virgin bond
>the Chad high risk high yield equity

>>15770969
>Stock market is for creeps and weirdos.
You're not wrong.

>>15771026

>>15770988
Im starting to think I know who you are in real life. Had a coworker that acted like you and got along with. Your first name wouldn't start with an E would it?

>>15771026
>another /wsb/ incel that fell for the option maymay
Sad

>>15770659
Ouch.

>>15770676
>problem solvers
Lol at you

>>15770678
Mainly options now. The majority of stocks I own are just the garbage ones I got when I was a bigger noob.

>>15770718
Sorta, just wasn't expecting a jump in the options I was trading. Still holding them though as I have suspicions that I'm one tweet away from it being down 1k, to being up 1k (due to Trump's behavior). Or should a recession occur I'll be up bigly.

>>15770746
No.

>>15771064
nope

>>15771031
LolNo. As far as I can tell, bonds are for gay communists.
>>15771029
Damn right. I need high pain for maximum gain. It’s why I need a disaster like RKG.

Another insider buying 25k worth of $GME stock for 5.38. Wtf is going on there?

>>15771110
they are squeezing the fuck out of shorts.. big green dildo soon

>>15771110
It's gonna pump to 7.5 then dump back where it belongs

Can someone explain me what this is? Some sort of employee coverage plan or something?

http://archive.fast-edgar.com//20190930/A522PG2EZZ2RMZZZ2HJR2ZXSFUEJOZ22Z2B2/

>>15771148
i can't read sorry

once PewDiePie invests you'll all be sorry

what happens if two teslas are smart summoning in a walmart parking lot and they hit each other, which owner is liable? I say that the car owner with the lower trim model should be liable, otherwise if they're the same the person who preordered the feature last should be.

>>15771247
Figure 50/50 unless one is proven to have malfunctioned in some way beyond the ordinary for a Tesla auto driving feature.

>>15769426
>>15769648
>>15769605
>pol meme FUD faggotry
I almost don't donate to charities for fear of subsidizing peasant dipshits like you people. don't have children

>>15771266
would a good lawyer try to argue that the company is liable?

>>15771243
NAKD to $100

Should I buy more AMD or will it continue to fall?

I MISSED THE FUCKING DIIIIIIIP

Nah, there's more pain ahead, but I thought this was bullish and relevant to /smg/'s interests.

>>15771110
>>15771116
Kinda wish I didn't sell now...

>>15771301
LCI been crabbin', zigzaggin'. Weird. What happened?

>>15771400
I think LCI is trapping retail shorts and big shorts are covering with retail shorts

the GME thing is pissing me off.. i want more shares!! i want a fucking dip but i don't think it'll dip.. could shoot to 8 real quick imo

Maryland 21 and over law goes into effect tommorrow..

MO is going to $30.........

https://www.baltimoresun.com/politics/bs-md-pol-tobacco-age-20190929-fhy5wltymngvdhfivcogazg3ni-story.html

they even mention juul in that article..

>>15771400
And I wish I had more money, balls and brain. I could sell some things to buy more but when I think about it it reminds me of the impulsive decisions of the past that made me lose so much money. It seems like such a sure thing though.

>>15771420
the last part is for >>15771395

>>15769649
This fucking video

Can anyone explain to a retard (me) why stocks are still moving at 6pm?

>>15771499
I'm up almost a percent since 5

Does the market only close for poor people?

>>15771510
>>15771499
it's when they let black people trade.. they're last in line and gotta wait for everyone else to trade first

>>15771420 (420)
nice

>You now must be 21 to buy cigarettes, vapes and other tobacco products in Maryland
good. once the fucking zoomers and neozoomers stop using them in highschools, the stink of scandal can start to wash off.

JUUL is EVERYWHERE
The way these anti-vapers talk about it is starting to make me bullish.

Example: CNBC guys saying kids don't even say vape, they say "juul". They're sneaking to the bathroom to juul, let me hit your juul, I really want to Juul right now.

They're public enemy number one, and because of that they're on the tips of everyone's tongues.

Altria certainly overpaid, but when they pass regulations and all the competitors in the e-cig category are struggling, Juul may be the best positioned to survive. The same with Cronos group, once they get to the bottom of this, they'll make sure the little guys who can't afford to grow and manufacture at scale without getting pesticide contaminants into their products are regulated out of existence.

I don't think it's bottomed yet, it may even be a dark 1-2 years. Shit, that might mean I should wait for a market downturn event like a recession before buying?

>>15771532
>Example: CNBC guys saying kids don't even say vape, they say "juul". They're sneaking to the bathroom to juul, let me hit your juul, I really want to Juul right now.
oh so since CNBC said it... it must be true... got it!

what all these non vape retards don't understand is that people that vape don't even use juul...

only people that are out of touch think of juul because they have no clue that there are full on vape stores that carry every other product besides juul....

MO is going to $30.....

stop trying to pump it you fucking faggot!! you've been coming in here with the same bullshit since fucking $60!!!!!!

SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!

sure it'll bounce here and there but for now it has bad news surrounding it.. let it fucking sink before buying it.. you aren't going to catch a fucking $75billion market cap you fucking dweeb!!!!

Debt payments for juul started august... wait to see how they handled that before jumping in... big money is waiting.. you should too..... hey.. you know what.. fuck it... keep buying it... full leverage your account on it.. that way when it does go to $30 and you go broke from margin calls i don't have to see your dumbass in here trying to pump MO anymore..

MO is going to $30...........................................................................

>>15771510
>does the market only close for poor people
Yes

>>15771601
>>15771532
sorry.. just trying to amplify the fact that....

MO is going to $30...............

Idk who owns Vuse but they sold a metric fuck ton of their vape pens for 1$ in my area and are now more popular than juul


Wasnt sure if it was a power play or if the government boned them

>>15770872
Well I was in at about a buck, so 700% returns don’t lie...

>>15771601
>stop trying to pump it you fucking faggot!! you've been coming in here with the same bullshit since fucking $60!!!!!!
I appreciate the input but not the accusations. I'm not trying to pump it, I want it to fall. I just want to discuss it with /smg/

I'm not the type of guy to come in here and tell everyone to buy such and such. I know, CNBC is especially suspicious. They're fudding it hard and trying to grandstand on it.

MO at 30 seems unlikely, but I might consider buying puts before earnings. The vape scare has to be cutting into this quarter's profits, right?

>MO was $66 ten months ago
The stock market is a terrifying bitch.

I'm technically going to be "buying" shares very soon when the divvies DRiP, but I don't recommend anyone else invest here.

> only people that are out of touch think of juul because they have no clue that there are full on vape stores that carry every other product besides juul....
THOSE are the kinds of shit that will be legislated into nonexistance. Does ATF let any jackass sell the cigarettes he rolled himself? If it does, that's insane. And allowing any jackass with a vape shop to sell his homemade shit is just as insane.

I do see Blu around though, and even see commercials for their flavored products. But more often I see Juul. Only rarely do I see /g/-tier modcucks
>muh clouds
>>15771697
>Vuse
Oh, maybe vuse not blu. I confuse them.

>>15771267
I didn't say I liked the guy, but as long as Trump remains a meme, all bets are off for the 2020 elections

>>15771697
Owned by BTI, the only tobacco stock you should own

>>15771601
That's all I see on tinder. Chicks talking about juul a lot. I don't know why.

>>15771906
based and viral pilled.
what's the context?

Hey, why don't all these chinkshit IPO's just do ADR's?

>>15771831
>the virgin TACO owner
>the chad CMG yolo'er

>>15770997
Bout feb 2020

>>15771953
Idk how CMG stays in buisness with those giant portions. Its like Im eating a school bus instead of a burrito

>>15769322
AMD sure is going to Ryzen the fuck up with all those consoles rolling out next year, even more server market share, Ryzen 3000 selling like hotcakes and Ryzen 4000 around the corner, but 65$ at the beginning of 2021? That's fucking outlandish.

For some reason RobinHood is letting me do unlimited day trades even though i don't have $25,000, as long as select cancel pending orders when i do it.

>>15772014
rice and beans are dirt cheap, and they charge for fucking tortilla chips that are also dirt cheap. And then you have, what I assume are minimum wage employees who love working there because they get a lunch discount or something.

That's a funny image though :3

I miss having MCD in my portfolio now... And I've got conflicted feels about UNH rallying off a downgrade. Got your eyes on any new month bars for tomorrow?

Can someone explain to me as an non smoker what's the difference between cigarettes sold in Mainland China and cigarettes sold in rest of the world?

Well up a small bit today. So perhaps things are looking up. Still down over 1350 though but that's just how the stock works till something big comes down the pipe (Nov 14).

>>15772130
You really don't want to know.. Look up what's inside an American cig. Then consider the Chinese one and you know how uh lax things are over there. Also consider that to them pets are perfect food items. Get the idea?

>>15771831
Speaking of which, it's in a not too shabby chart position right now. Moving towards upper part of watchlist.

>>15772114
not exactly
For october I like tootsie rool. Its not common knowlage but TR is green in over 80% of octobers, so when you see the monthly candle turn red you should buy.

Theres also the china trade event so Im being more careful. My trades will be less and less until tax season ends

Is there going to be violence or not?

This is just a big nothingburger, isn't it...

>>15772130
I doubt it's even tobacco everything in China is a scam

everything

I'm about to go all in with my robinhood portfolio on NAKD but seriously when the fuck are the earnings coming these niggers have backed out like 2 times now.

>>15772321
Also NAKD to .12 is weak FUD NAKD to 1.34

Is Honk Kong going to explode or what?! Only 15 more minutes to stack some TVIX...

>>15772293
Will keep an eye on TR and BTI... didn't know they owned Vuse.

I just came in to about 50k from a worker's compensation case. Is this enough to start investing? How do I go about starting. I'm a newfag and I know nothing, but I'm tired of wageslaving and want an out.

>>15772340
read the sticky and always do the opposite of what /smg/ says

>>15772321
>>15772329
The fuck happened to NAKD to drop down so low?

>>15771942
There isn't any. In their bios they say shit like
>Let me hit your juul
>in love with my juul
>I liked you for your dog, JUUL!

>>15772395
Pretty sure they missed several earnings combined with poor assimilation of acquisitions into their supply chain and now fear of de-listing.

>>15771942
sauce on this? it's a screengrab so SauceNAO returns nada

>>15771720
>Des ATF let any jackass sell the cigarettes he rolled himself? If it does, that's insane.
Does the DEA allow any jackass to sell his meth he made himself? No.. but do it anyway right?

MO has debt payments that started august.. would like to see how their cash flow did during that time before buying any of their shares

>>15771906
All I ever see on tinder are chicks that want you to add their snap chat, follow their instagram.. or are fat..

Hooked up with a chick from there about a month ago and she hasn't left me alone.. talks shit on juul tho...

FUCK
I Just went full retard gambler and turned my SQQQ hedge into a full on short position.

I didn’t want to create a new position because of Schwab fees. But it’s a stupid move, betting on vix at least makes some sense for HK violence. Sqqq, not so much.

Learning lessons the hard way, every day.

>>15772404
>I liked you for your dog, JUUL
That makes no sense to me...

>>15772457
>>I liked you for your dog, JUUL
>That makes no sense to me...
believe it or not.. a lot of times... females don't make sense...

>>15772456
This too. Not as many fatties for me tho, at least not compared to the more niche apps. You ever try a BDSM app? Comprised almost entirely of fat chicks, women LARPing as findoms to try to take money from men, and faggots. Fairly disappointing. What's worse is these fat chicks have a distinct lack of character, not only displaying it from their sloth and gluttony, but STILL have these high standards. Like if you want to take one to the gym with you or for a run or something they're 100% against it. And if you're interested in something, and they're not 100% on board, "hard limit". It's as if, to them, I'm only there for their pleasure and they contribute nothing. Entitled AF. How I managed a half decent one after sifting through trash astounds me to this day.

Can I get the google drive for totally LEGALLY PURCHASED books? Trying to read up before I dive into the world of day trading.

>>15772457
>>15772512
They don't make sense. They'll just work juul into their bio or the conversation cause it's trendy. Other tinder bitch info may include, but is not limited to,
>the office
>sunny in philadelphia
>fur babies
>curvy (AKA fat)
>'thick thighs save lives'
>pumpkin spice
>catch me on my insta/snapchat
>not on this hook up app to hook up
>can't handle me at my worst bla bla
>Traveling & "adventuring"
>snapchat filters (dog/mouse/flower crown)
>I liked you for your dog/send me pics of your dog/DOGSZZZZZZZZZZZ
>tattoos/piercings
>lol 420 maryjane need a plug smoke me out lolz

>>15772521
BDSM is literally one of the worst communities on the planet but what would you expect from those who want to network degeneracy?

>>15772702
Idk I try to improve myself and offer something to my partner. I assumed being a sort of outsider would spark some self-work in people. I guess not. Maybe they all just flocked there for their 50 shades fantasies too.

>>15772613
just use libgen or b-ok

>>15772717
It was like that before 50 shades.
Could be many reasons why fat people are more drawn to internet fetish communities. I think the orgy groups are also supposed to generally be pretty fat.

>>15772717
I mean that's probably a chunk of it to the kink craze of the last 5 years probably made it even worse. I mean I poked my head in briefly when I had just turned 18 and there were a few cool people but definitely not worth. Better off trying to shoot the moon with "exploring" in a normal relationship.

>>15772747
I mean the thing about fat people is just there are a lot of fat people period. Like it's actually absurd when you think about it. You think it's that there are a lot of fat people there but it's really just a numbers game and there are fat fucks everywhere.

Anyone got shares of ONX? I'm reading good things but not sure if its just hopeful thinking.

>>15772772
Damn it all, I'm starting a fast tomorrow.

Tonight, if dubs.

>>15769475
What would a never expiring option cost

>>15772817
Isnt that just margin?

>>15772860
I think it’s just buying or shorting 100 shares?

Come February next year I shall get a fat wad from the Govt. Some do the tax shat at the last moment. Not me, I want my fat wad as soon as I can get it. Part will go into the bank, most will go into my brokerage. T-babies shall be bought en-mass, my two funds will get a nice fat boost as well. Then when AMRN delivers the really Fat Wad the buying spree will be kicked up a notch. I think 40,000 or 80,000 will do the trick. Think of the T-babies I'll buy with it. Think of how nice and Fat both my Funds will get. Think of the big pile I'll still have in the bank in case this world just turns into a big ol shat.

>>15772890
It’s margin.

>>15769910
down 2.75% now
hedging my ass off though
up 3, down 3

a lot of work to go nowhere

Has anybody made any real money off of stocks here? Anybody at all?

>>15770223
>>15770640
Being down isn't necessarily bad. Here's my Robinhood chart for comparison. As long as you believe your stocks will go up and you bought at a fair price, who cares if they go a little lower first? It's impossible to time the bottom carefully. Every stock has a story. Some are just down on their luck. If you're there for them when they need a friend, they'll be there for you when you need them.

dropped 10k into ITOT

>>15773578
Made and lost. Made again. Then lost.

I got the hiccups three times today wtf this is the worst

>>15773615
nice 11k. how low was the dip?

>>15770969
yikes its like ive been outed

God DAMN IT 7974 stop giving up your sick gains!

>>15774189
I miss freightbrokeranon...

>>15773578
yeah
plenty

>>15773860
It was around 25% at the time. The first dip was aroud 20%. I've been adding money as I go, so it skews the historical results a little bit, since the Robinhood chart shows losses in the past versus your current total deposits.

Short TSLA.
Buy KHC and BP.

>>15774502
ouch, we'll still make it bros

>>15774641
why KHC?

What the fuck... it’s already 12:30 PM in Hong Kong, and futures are surging. QQQ showing no sign of weakness, vix getting absolutely crushed...

All my money gonna be gone in the morning, sleeping gonna be rough tonight.

>>15774729
Nigga they only need 7 billion in assets to make 7 billion every year. Thats fucking wild

https://www.zhihu.com/question/306101661
Back in year 2005, there was a ecig company in China that attained 1 Billion Yuan (120M USD using exchange rate back then) sales revenue in just 10 months time. It was the time when average monthly salary of people living in Chinese cities were only 1500 Yuan (200 USD). However, Chinese government claim their products are not scientific and unsafe, then they quickly driven them out of the country using financial measures.
Nowadays, people read what happened back then as the Chinese government's determination to protect their tobacco revenue, and thus even in the current year when ecig have been globally acknowledged, there are still barely anyone who are interested in retail of ecig in China.

>>15774804
?? Today is China's National Day, both the HK and China markets are closed for the public holiday

>>15774729
The price will double once they get their debt situation fixed.

>>15773615
>>15773860
>>15774502
Thanks. These posts are lifefuel..

>>15774834
Huh. Interesting.

>>15774834
hey wait
if ecigs (and weed) are illegal in china, then how do all the cheap ecigs and weed ecig cartridges get made there? shouldn't that be illegal too?
Happy national day! ;)

>>15774848
the true life fuel is bettering yourself by learning as much as you can by reading. We'll make it anon.

>>15774838
Ah, I was predicting a major conflict because of the anniversary the protests, and the increased military presence, and that such a conflict would uspset investors and cause a spike in vix and selloff.

Futures don’t reflect it, and neither does the news flow.

>>15774848
How much have you lost anon?

I can bail with an about $600 loss on my put options OR hold for now. Should it go down (which I believe may happen before expiry) then a decent chunk is recovered with profit.

Questions for anons who buy calls and puts. Asking as I'd like to improve how I handle options.
1. Do you mainly purchase calls or puts?
2. How far out do you buy options?
>a few days - 3 weeks
>month - 3 months
>3+ months
3. How soon do you generally close out your option OR do you let it expire?

Questions for anons who buy calls and puts. Asking as I'd like to improve how I handle options.
1. Do you mainly buy/sell calls or puts?
2. How far out do you set these options for expiry?
3. How soon do you generally close out your option OR do you let it expire?

>>15774910
Did you not read the book Anon posted earlier?

>>15774856
Maybe okay to manufacture and export the carts but not sell in country? The liquid doesn't come from China. That is added stateside after import.

>>15774978
That and also, I’m sure China has a double-standard for these things. I doubt they’d tolerate fentanyl if it were killing its own population.

>>15774978
Oh I didn't know all the liquid was made over here

>>15774910
>>15774946
I only do exceedingly obvious options plays on a small number of contracts (lottery ticket-tier). Even then I get bit, so I basically don't do options.

My total losses are about $500 for my whole trading history, but I was down $1,400 once so I'm not that worried.

>>15774856
Ecig are not exactly illegal in China but if you become big then the government could use different tricks to make you disappear from the market
As for weed, from my memory most cannabis plantation in China are done in the name of industrial hemp. And then a few of them are in the name of medical purpose research.
And I am pretty sure there are some products, although I cannot recall any right off my mind, that are illegal in China but they still produce them and sold them to other countries.
>Happy National Day!
eh
>>15774886
Most protests are scheduled to occurs in the afternoon so nothing major in the morning
Only a few conflicts have occurred in the morning, including dozens being arrested for trying to release some balloon.
Military presence of China in Hong Kong are usually not visible and it's still like this in the city for now.
Yesterday the police claimed there were some "core rioters" trying to commit different acts like killing police, burning or starting explosion in mall and metro station, and recruit people with suicide tendency to commit terroristic acts. However people found out the information police posted is linked to a Mandarin group, aka not the language used by people in HK. It is unclear what police might try to do in the name of these so tension are high. Dozens of malls and metro station have already been closed to avoid being affected.

>>15774946
Doesn't surprise me as options seem to heavily affect stock prices. Which in my opinion blows. Should the stock market ban options, a bunch of stocks would likely settle near more accurate prices. Ban algo's and suddenly prices are gonna get hit real hard probably. It's a bunch of guesses but it's what I believe would happen if options and algo's were removed.

Question: I have several put options expiring in a few weeks to half a year out. Currently down about $600 on them (total cost about $5500). Reduced my loss by buying a call and closing it at a higher price. In your honest opinion do you think I should close them at a $600 loss or hold considering Trump's tweets affect the price and should a recession occur in a few months time these options will likely be in the positive.

>>15775099
What do you mean by exceedingly obvious? Do you just do small options that are like 0.05-0.15 for premium?

October has officially started~
Welcome to Q4 /smg/ ~~
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gs069dndIYk

>>15775127
>I'm trading right, it's just the that the prices are being manipulated by
(pulls card) options!
(pulls another card) algos!
who cares silly just buy good shit with a fat juicy yield and you'll get paid for life

Small Spec -5000 lmao

>>15775170
Not for another 35 minutes for me. I'm so excited!
>>15775113
I know china was cracking down on manufacturing designer drugs and chemicals for foreign markets, the US still gets tons of illegal substances from Chinese factories though. India is apparently seeking to ban ecigs, but they're a big market with poor regulation so I wonder how that will turn out. Stay safe hkbro!

>>15769376
$600 off 3 months risking $4k? Eh..

Nice recovery though but get out of the game breh

Japan is hiking consumption taxes, looks like this extends even to micro transactions. I expect this may hurt BILI and Nintendo on their FGO, fire emblem, and Mario Kart revenue. I’m not sure about Bili, it may depend on where each host server is physically located.
Should I take my gains on the Nikkei? Maybe on Nintendo too?
>>15775113
Thank you, as always. Your explanations are very interesting.
I have placed a small bet on a violent outcome because I think it is likely but I am not hoping for one.
I don’t think I’ve heard you discuss your investments. Do you have money in the Heng Seng?

>>15775207
weww, did the COT update?
RIP my short position
(long live my long position)

POOPOO PEEPEE

>>15775309
Bili have no right on Japanese FGO and only transaction made within Japan will be affected
I didn't follow Nikkei too closely but I would imagine they are all priced in already?
I have already sold off all the stocks that I used to hold in the local stock market.

>>15775380
Large specs long smol specs short
only a tiny lil bit tho

>>15775380
It went from +56k to -5k
You will not betray me, I will make sure you lose more than just money if you do that again

>>15775481
Oh I'm still absolutely bullish on the market, and I don't by the global recession thesis. We've got a good set up for big gains, that's why I was real conflicted about this.

Don't take it so personally, this is just a small wager on Xi's savagery and lack of humanity.

Did you notice Large Specs were short from Sept 11-23? That's much more significant to me, I wonder what happened and what changed their minds.

Everyone's pretty flat on the S&P chart, but the HUGE variation is on the Vix futures. Large specs are shorting the FUCK out of the vix, and smalls are way out on the other edge. This is much more concerning for my short position than the S&P COT.

Large specs aren't betting much on a rally, but they're betting HARD against a panic-sell.

>>15775615
How do you determine which are large and which are small spec? By buy/sell size in a short time frame (large money going fast)? Or are there publicly available data for that?

>>15775615
>>15775644
It comes from the cftc data right? Commercial, non-commercial?

>>15775644
https://www.barchart.com/futures/commitment-of-traders

>>15775687
yeah ctfc. I forget how they define it.
I get the data here:
>>15775706
Thanks Sun
night all

>>15775706
>>15775719
Thanks!

>>15775417
based

>mfw i know that over time ill make my money back on my EFTs and index stocks
>still cant bring my self to pull the trigger on investing another 25k into the S&P/ASX 200 because i know that we're in a correction and ill only get more bang for my buck by waiting...

what do /biz/?

>>15776033
You aussie? If so how is the sentiment in real estate right now?
>25k
If that’s all of your cash, then save it to average your positions later, also you can do some fx plays (like eur.usd) while its sitting on the side lines

>>15776059
Nah its not all my money i already have some index funds.

Personally im bearish on property. The reserve bank just lowered interest rates today by .25 bringing them down to .75 which is the lowest level ever. Its not going to help the problem tho because the banks wont pass the full cut (if any) onto the customers.

Basically they can lower rates as much as they want but the buy in price is so ridiculously high that its almost impossible for average people to get homes

>>15776033
if you are under the age of 30... invest just about everything you got!!!

Almost last for buy MSFT

Somebody explain to me why is this board so obsessed with crypto after the burst of the normie bubble almost a year ago

>>15776304
>obsessed with crypto
Please explain

>>15776581
Explain? The whole fucking board is obsessed about crypto despite being a zero sum game snake oil

>>15772114
This. Even chicken breasts are cheap. The only thing there that really costs money is the avocado and the beef. And you pay handsomely for that avocado sliver

>>15773578
Depends what you mean by real money. Until recently was up 250% for the year starting with $4k. Pretty good returns, but not much capital, so making nearly $10k isnt all that great.

>>15772114
>minimum wage employees who love working there because they get a lunch discount or something.
Hahahaha is this a joke? Nobody like to work minimum wage, you tool

LCI Enters distribution agreement for generic Advair Diskus

>GME premarket
y dieeeed I SALE!?!?!

>>15776741
>>15776581
>>15776304
Shills probably. People that think they're gonna get rich quick. They see it as a lottery ticket and call it an investment, that it's the future. When shit like tether is owned by a private hong kong company, I don't really buy into it.

>>15775309
Whike the situation in the city have reached an unprecedented level of chaos now, I don't think the level is significant enough to cause drops in the market?

new bread pls

>>15777082

just for you
>>15777084
>>15777084
>>15777084

>>15777084
>>15777084
new thread

>>15777084