/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>15735132
btw I hope the tax authorities here wont give me a hard time for cashing out. I literally lost over 10 grand on crypto and if they audit me I have no idea how to even dig up all the trades. with my luck Ill probably get audited and end up having to pay taxes on losing moeny as well. I really wish I would haven ever touched crypto its a fucking scam and its unbelievable that the government allows all this shady shit and market manipulation to happen.

>>15735132
>subreddit
stopped reading there

>>15735154
>implying /biz/ is not just another subreddit

>>15735154
reddit is better than /biz/

>>15735205
Subreddits are echo chambers, people isolate themselves in their own delusions.

$41k eoy if dubs

/biz/ is better because I can call you a nigger. Nigger.

>>15735149
>>15735132
Dear god man , i saw you shitposting when it happened and how angry you where anon.

You should do your own research , boomer index funds are going to be rekt soon enough too as nearly every startup is losing money nowdays.

You should have done your own research on everything if i where you i would simply move your bsv and the moeny you cashed to btc and wait.

You will recover everything soon enough , bsv was a scam from the start btc and bch are not , even if i disagree with both communities in some things.

BSV ulta big block narrative of putting shit in the blockchain was just the bait and excuse to fork and create their own scamcoin.

I wish you the best anon but you must do your own research in the future othetwise people will use you again.

>>15735132
sounds like the anger phase. good job, you sold the bottom.

>>15735132
You'll lose money in stocks too since you clearly have bad judgment

>>15735238
What was he supposed to do?The fucking boomer scammers in control of bsv want to let anyone even upload cp into ther fucking blockchain to justify their blocksize , there is a reason why btc removed codes to upload shit.

BSV is a timebomb

>>15735132
>The FED and ECB implement quantitative easing and lowering interest rates, acting exactly like they did during the recession/financial crisis.
>Stock market is hovering around ATH
>Political chaos, fringe candidates and their politics are becoming increasingly mainstream. No willingness for the political parties to work with the other parties.
>lack of infaltion, no explanation, Stagnating GDP in the west.
Im looking up boomer stock index funds as we speak

>>15735149
Imagine wanting the government to bail you out because you were too dumb to realize CSW is a fraud lmao you people are so funny

Hey, how bout you stfu? The whole market is down and if you knew what you were talking about, you'd know you fucked up by selling. Instead, youre an emotional shit bag who makes irrational decisions. Consider this a lesson learned fag boi. Now sit back and watch BSV grow into the crypto king where it rightfully belongs.

>>15735132

>All in bsv
>crypto its a fucking scam why does goverment allow this manipulation REEEEEEEEEEEEEE


BIZ 2019 BOYS


>>15735293

Not buy obvious scam?

>>15735327
>>15735233
I have done hundreds of hours of research since 2017 and my conclusion that its all a big fat scam. I have some BTC and BSV left and I dont believe in either. I dont feel comfy having a big part of my net worth tied up into this ponzi scheme its all garbage. nobody is using blockchain, the projects are all unscaleable bullshit run by scammers, frauds and weirdos. dont care so much for the money I lost as I can make that back in a couple of months. but all the time invested and all the stress I had to endure, the shattered dreams of being able to escape wagecucking.. thats what hurts the most.

thinking any fork is the real bitcone, what the fuck. Especially after the BCASH scam.

>>15735382
lettuce be honest here bitcone is complete garbage too, unscaleable, unusuable crap.

>>15735362

> hundreds of hours of research since 2017
>allin bsv

I did 1/10 of that and I 8x my money on btc/eth/link in 2019 alone because im not dumb fuck

I wish you best in life and sugest you exit all markets

>>15735397
>allin bsv
I never said I was allin on BSV

BSV went down because the entire market went down, but that doesn't change the fact that Craig Wright is Satoshi, or that BSV is the real Bitcoin. If you're not holding atleast 25% minimum of holdings in BSV by January 2020 you'll probably want to actually an hero. $60 was the absolute bottom, if you're not buying now you're fucking retarded, regardless of what you think of Craig. It's the most obvious coin to make a profit since Tron.

>>15735417
this is why BTC hit 19k
>Brock Pierce
>founded Tether
>caught up in a Hollywood pedophile ring scandal
>known to rub shoulders with convicted pedophile Jeffery Epstein
>active member of the Clinton Global Initiative
>received millions of dollars of investments from Goldman Sachs

>>15735417
>muh craig wright
Im sure he'll reveal the fatal segwit flaw today like he promised yeah? the guy is full of shit and keeps overpromising and underdelivering. he got absolutely BTFO in court when he said he would rek Kleiman. His court case against Roger Ver got thrown out as well. He promised to build abitcoin bank years ago that never materialized. after months of promising to tank BTC now he and calvin are out there saying they want peaceful coexistence. they are all full of shit.

>>15735417
Except that literally everything about Craig is a fabrication, including his magic crypto holdings. Only low-IQ idiots still believe the fucking words and "breadcrumbs" when the facts and leaked documents show otherwise. Good luck with your community coin with a retarded community of fraudster worshipers.

>>15735431
oh god here come the q retards. just another reason to exit BSV as fast as you can. imagine holding an investment favored by literal qboomers

>>15735394
Wonder why the fuck you here then, if you don't believe in it.

It's like some disinfo agents who get assigned to some dark corner of the web, some retarded forum to keep watch and monitor dissent. They don't believe in any of that shit, but still they have to go there every day.

>>15735433
you mean the same judge who is epstein's buddy?
>On that date, as emails were flying between Epstein’s lawyers and federal prosecutors, Bruce E. Reinhart, now a federal magistrate, opened a limited liability company in Florida that established what would become his new criminal defense practice.

>The stated address, according to Florida state corporate records: 250 South Australian Ave., Suite 1400. It was the same location, and identical suite number, as that of Epstein’s lead attorney, Jack Goldberger.

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/state/florida/article232595847.html

>>15735362
>I have done hundreds of hours of research since 2017 and my conclusion that its all a big fat scam

Most is sadly btc is not.

>nobody is using blockchain

Lot's of people are using it for international wires.

>the projects are all unscaleable bullshit run by scammers, frauds and weirdos.

Most are sadly.

>I lost as I can make that back in a couple of months. but all the time invested and all the stress I had to endure, the shattered dreams of being able to escape wagecucking.. thats what hurts the most.

Bitcoin will be above 20k next year and 100k by 2021 , bch , ltc and xmr will moon too.

All you had to do was research the daily transactions , it was clear bsv was all fake as fuck 1 day 0 transactions the next day millions.

BCH is struggling too but it's doing 50k real transactions per day , basically nothing in the grand scale of the university but it can grow easily since they been building infrastructure like local.bitcoins and other things.

The biggest problem in cryptos is that they bait newfags by muh bitcoin boomercoin old , when bitcoin is doing exactly what was supposed to do.

>>15735439
I think Q is a psyop. Don't try and dismiss Jeffrey Epstein and his island, or the fact that Brock Pierce has been there. The connection between Reinhart and Epstein is very telling.

>>15735443
>implying theres a huge conspiracy against BSV when in reality epstein was connected to pretty much everyone of status in the US (including your beloved Trump)
>implying if there WAS a conspiracy that would actually be a good thing
its guys like you that make me feel good about exiting BSV anon
>>15735442
Im here to vent mostly. not everybody is paid by some secret service to spread disinfo believe it or not.

>>15735433
The "fatal segwit flaw" was exposed years ago. Craig is most certainly not the one who discovered it though. You obviously didn't research anyone other than Craig and probably didn't read up on all this shit came about, did you?

>>15735456
you're not understanding. it's meant to destroy trust in cryptocurrency, but also I would assume it's blackmail on everyone who used BTC on the island or elsewhere. in it's infancy it was lauded as being anonymous. I can't imagine how many people used BTC on Epstein's island.

>>15735448
>bitcoin is doing exactly what was supposed to do
no it doesnt.

>>15735448

Beeing a Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash System?

Bitcoin not fucking doing what is suposed to do is what caused this frauds to rise lol

You all are dumb negros i sware

>>15735475
Epstein was a friend of Calvin Ayre. Parties were hosted on Calvin's island, Craig was a frequent guest.

>>15735459
you know if youre so smart and well informed why dont you elaborate on it. I hate how faggots like you come on here, make some vague claims, call everybody stupid and then leave without bringing anything to the convesration. Craig Wright specifically talked about a fatal segwit flaw that he would reveal by end of 2019 and its just gonna be another one of his lies. if you have something to add to this then spit it out or just fuck off.

>>15735508
just looked it up and you're lying. onus of proof is on you faggot.

>>15735475
>>15735508
I dont care about your whackjob conspiracy shit, the cryptocurrency industry does a pretty good job of destroying any trust by itself.

>>15735516
>he doesn't know
enjoy 2020 fagggot

>>15735535
and here we go. back to qboomerposting and "he doesnt know". you got nothing to add to this conversation. fuck BTC, fuck all you BSVtards and fuck this entire shady industry.

>>15735527
Prove that I'm lying. You probably deny that Craig is connected to LGBT too.

>>15735516
I'll just put it this way. Craig is doing more to defend bitcoin core than anyone else with his bullshit. Whether it's intentional or if he's just a tard, idk.

>>15735569
>Craig is doing more to defend bitcoin core than anyone else with his bullshit
I actually agree with this. I wouldnt be surprised if he actually IS satoshi or a major BTC whale and forked BSV just to clear his debt to Ira Kleiman. that would fit into the "Muh 4D chess" narrative that BSVtards love to peddle but of course you cant even have a real conversation about this without qboomers and corecucks shitting up every thread.

>>15735439
God you are so retarded, you deserve everything that has happened you. Fucking pedo supporter.

>>15735132
> I still hold a small 25 BSV suicide stack in case these scammers will actually deliver

1) craig is not satoshi:
- no coins to dump the market
- no name/branding rights for 'bitcoin'

2) bsv tech
- not mature, barely anything is working
- literal shit tier idea to build a file-coin on a fork of a fork instead of from the ground up

i left that sinking ship as fast as i could, realistically BSV is worth between 5,- to 15,- a coin.

>>15735725
and these 5 to 15 only because calvin pumps a lot of money into nchain and the infrastructure (eg coingeek newsoutlet).

it would be 30,- to 50,- if this absolut faggot of craig wright wasn't involved; he's literally scaring away all real talent and smart money.

>>15735479
Satoshi put the blocksize himself he realized that it would centralize the network since hard disk size was not going up fast enough.

>>15735362
>I have done hundreds of hours of research (on bsv) since 2017 and my conclusion that its all a big fat scam
b-but MUH EPSTEIN !!!
REEEEEEEEEEEEE !!!
Dude. while BTC has its flaws, anyone requiring more than 30 seconds flat to clock calvin n cregs Kool-Aid Slurping Society for the fucking chancers, fraudsters and scammers they very literally are, should not be investing. In anything

>>15735132
post proof you fucking faggot

>>15736260
it's legit he was bitching the minute of the crash about this and so he was yesterday.

BSV mining is so centralized that he had to wait 12 confirmations to deposit in the exchange and in the meantime everything collapsed.

>>15735725
Not just a shit tier it's destructive people could upload illegal stuff there and worse the size of the blockchain centralizes to the point there are only 400 nodes that eventually would be attacked for hosting illegal stuff.

>>15735205
>>15735162
>reddit is better than /biz/
Then why are you here, shill? Dont you have some Zognald memes to be posting?

>>15735132
You're a seriously dumb mother fucker and I guarantee you will regret this.

At least you have a suicide stack.

Yeah I'm not buying the bsv fud, and no one else should. For fucks sake, bsv is having a huge stress test tomorrow and then the coingeek conference is on Monday.
Trust your own judgement and, as always, do the opposite of biz.

>>15736505
>Yeah I'm not buying the bsv
wise anon
>and no one else should.
amen
>and then the coingeek conference is on Monday
assuming Calvins checked the extradition fine print carefully before booking, where are they now ? Always like to see what nationality of hookers they'll hire in this time. Just SUCH classy people, don't ya think ?

>>15736549
Twisting my words around as usual. Good little corecuck. Maybe Greg will let you drink his bath water now.

Pathetic

>>15735132
Greg 1/10 for this post. This FUD is weak. Link drop from 4,5$ to 1,5$ and no one call it scam.

>>15736818
link is a scam though

>>15736711
>congeek, the gathering
is then the fraud wright due to speak ?
https://www.google.com/search?q=Why+is+this+fraud+allowed+to+speak+at+this+conference%3F
- must be nice for him to STILL have ONE audience where he'll be allowed to espouse his bullshit, fact-check or heckler free
>even tho even calvingeeks KNOW he's a fat fucking sham as well
especially after his latest plagiate scandal(s):
https://medium.com/@samwill102244/anatomy-of-a-fraud-a-deep-dive-into-one-of-craig-wrights-plagiarized-papers-96bc8624fc12
- will then the fraud wright be addressing these issue(s), do you think ? Wouldn't want investor confidence to be shaken, or further inquiries into the exact veracity or otherwise of his various academic claims to be made, or anything. Would we now

>>15735132
Astroturf thread detected. Blockstream shills posing as disillusioned "former" BSV holders to dissuade anyone from looking into the project, which is doing better than ever and growing every day.

"I used to be a Trump supporter but..."

"I used to support BSV but...."

Exact same concern trolling shit. So easy to recognize.

Get fucked.

>>15737328
>doing better than ever and growing every day
yup. JUST look at this puppy CLIMB

>>15736979
it's a total mystery to me why this idiot hasn't been fired from nchain/bsv already:

https://bitcoinist.com/just-how-bad-is-craig-wright-at-plagiarism/

by enabling him in the first place, they are making themselves complicit in fraud or whatever you want to call that what craig is doing 24/7 (lies, fakes, forgeries).

Just wait till it's EOY ans BSV is not even @5% of what Craig the Clown "predicted". At one point there's gonna be someone who lost too much money on this corrupt serial liar and the lawsuits will come craig's (and calvin's!) direction.

>>15737431
Keep focusing on price retards, surely this will stop the BSV tech from consuming the entire space.

>>15736260
>>15736818
>>15737328
>muh fud
just get fucked you brainless BSV shitters. not everyone who changed his mind on this shitcoin is paid by Greg Maxwell believe it or not

>>15737663
Exactly what a blockstream shill would say.

Pic related.

>>15737606
>they are making themselves complicit
word. tbqh, I have oft wondered this very point, not that calvin being personally sued wouldn't be hysterical either. I think the base idea be, the fat fraud is firewalled and -nobody- actually admits to being the owner of nChain, but, its still near inevitable someones gonna get a court interested. There is also the question of (Florida) court ordered returned stolen IP, etc.
>>15737642
aint no legit Cos touching your hokey shit with a fucking bargepole boy. Roadmap your way to Poverty, for its there you're surely headed

>>15737328
>so much development
have you actually looked into the list of apps? I have. most is half-finished garbage that nobody is using and shit some anons slapped together in an afternoon.

>>15737642
>muh roadmap
what ever happend to terranode project? fell along the wayside just like all the other shit craig promised and never delivered on. now were going straight to unlimited blocksize lol

>>15737606
>>15737663
>>15737695
kys greg

>>15737824
yeah, top memed dude, STIFF!, etc

>>15737860
thanks greg

>>15735132
Godod its gonna crash

>>15737695
noticed this as well...i wanted to use something that was propagated by coingeek. then i ran already into 2 bugs at the registration process. i wrote to their official email address that was on the site to fix these bugs and an hour later i got an 'unknown recipient/not found' in my inbox. app itself was half finished at best and not really useable.

same with nchain...wrote them a couple of emails, got zero replies. this is totally not the the environment where you want to put your money. by the amount of outrageous statements craig made i expected some sort of culture like they have at EY, PWC or at McKinsey.

Instead you get 404's and once you delve into the bsv "community" you notice the people there are an absolute freakshow that has nothing to do with professionality at all. bsv is so far from having a championship culture or being a potential btc killer as the earth is from the sun. i'm just glad i got out of this absolute shitcoin.

>>15738031
no you didn't greg
you've been to busy fabricating medium articles and editing craigs papers to do anything like that

>>15735132
This is what you deserve faggot. Now go back.

>>15738224
bsv shills are literally destroying bsv by being so obvious which is great.

>>15735417
>Craig Wright is Satoshi
>BSV is the real Bitcoin
>It's the most obvious coin to make a profit since Tron

i hope for your sake you're getting paid to post this crap.

>>15738224
absolute idiots like this brainwashed mongoloid are what i refer to when i say that the bsv community is a freakshow.

>>15737328
>>15737679
Based
>>15738303
Cucked

>>15737328
This. (((blockstream))) can get fucked, BSV isn’t going anywhere

>>15737695
Kek. I make $25 / day shitposting on twetch. How much does Blockstream pay you to fud bsv, Rajesh?
So many disillusioned people ITT. Bsv is the obvious moon mission. I’m buying as much as I can at these levels and if it goes down I have a solid revenue stream to continue to buy more. Zero stopless. Screencap this post and post it in all the bsv shill threads when the price 2x, then 3x then 4x so on and so forth.

>>15738473
> fundamentals
Why I’m so confident.

>>15738256
>>15738303
just kys greg you scammer

>>15738473
exactly, (((blockstream))) has unlimited funds to throw at astroturfing, the problem is the people they pay absolutely suck at it. it's seemingly the same paid CTR trolls who lost Hillary the election and it's quite entertaining at least and solidifies my position by seeing the seething opposition, especially on plebbit.

>>15738303
>>15738295
>>15738256

>>15738649
It’s the same screeching:
> muh Craig is going to JAIL
> scam SCAM
> BCASH
> fork of a fork
> he LIED

>>15738674
sliding the thread makes the shilling so much more obvious. you guys suck at this

>>15738662

yeah, sure. i am greg maxwell, and i live rent free inside your head.

>>15738644
Checked. I was picking that hackjob medium article apart earlier with some friends and didn't even notice this at the time.
The information war being waged right now for the soul of bitcoin and by extension the future of western civilization itself is very real, but I'm still confident fundamentals will win in the end. Long term the market is a weighing machine, not a popularity contest.
>>15738649
Based. We are all going to make it, SVbros.

>>15738908
>More plebbit spacing
>>15738649 is right, you really, really suck at this.

>>15738948

my name

is greg

maxwell

and i live

rent free

inside

your

head

>>15738963
>"I live rent free inside your head lololol"
>Still bumping current BSV thread
Thank you for your kind attention, sir

>>15739074
>Thank you for your kind attention, sir

no problem :)

>>15739074

rent

free

if dubs EOY $1000

>>15739300
>The bumps continue
Satoshi thanks you

The BSV community is fucking cancer. It's cringe to read their virtue signalling.

"A higher limit can be phased in once we have actual use closer to the limit and make sure it's working OK.

Eventually when we have client-only implementations, the block chain size won't matter much. Until then, while all users still have to download the entire block chain to start, it's nice if we can keep it down to a reasonable size.

With very high transaction volume, network nodes would consolidate and there would be more pooled mining and GPU farms, and users would run client-only. With dev work on optimising and parallelising, it can keep scaling up.

Whatever the current capacity of the software is, it automatically grows at the rate of Moore's Law, about 60% per year." 2010 SN

craig has saved Bitcoin from socialist dev takeovers

>>15740210
lost a bit of weight there, no ?
>we gonna need a bigger cross for this fat pile of fraudulent shit

The fact that everyone talks negatively about BSV just makes me want to buy more of it. I will be waiting for BTC to hit 6500 and for BSV to tank to at least 40 before I buy though. Good price target for scalp is around 90-100.

>>15740210
>...on the third day
>...btc dies on the 3rd halving
it's a sign bros

STIFF

>>15739584
look anon, this is how it works.

>>15737663

you might want to show the numbers you stupid fuck. otherwise you just bought and sold 1sat to to make that screenshot.