/biz/ - Business & Finance

Ur all gay lol invest in link bitchezzz

New job is still in the works. 50/50 shot of getting it. Has nothing to do with competition either.

Title/ pay grade still to be determined. If they get it worked out and it's something I qualify for then the job is mine. No mater what it'd still be a pay bump for me. Just how large a bump is still unknown. But things are still moving, honestly expect to be in a new job by eoy.

Then I'd get a 5% after 6 months.

They need the help bad, I happen to have the skills they need so it ain't like they're creating a job outta thin air here. It's a win win thing. They get the help, I get a pay bump.

Might also be getting a new Gov by eoy so hey 2020 will be starting out pretty nice indeed.

I hope roku continues to fall. Comcast needs to body them harder.

>the money you speak of is meaningless to me

said no woman ever

>>15665617
I only trade crypto, investing in them are meaningless and stupid.

What’s the best app to get individual stock news? On iPhone

>>15665772
male author inserting profound shit into a female character's mouth.

Kek'd. Is Bernie Sanders still a serious candidate in the US?

Bernie Sanders promises all these things as president:
>Eliminate student debt
>Eliminate medical debt
>Implement Climate Change plan costing $16.5 trillion dollars
>‘Medicare for all’
>Free College
>Bring down US debt to: $1 trillion dollars

>>15665859
Congress niggas: I don't think so, Tim

>>15665722
An interesting thing is that our Gov recently hiked the mid point salaries for all the pay grades. So a Grade 9 the mid point is 35k. A grade 9 is kinda at the low/mid level of the scale.

A Grade 10 the mid is over 40k. You get the idea.

I make less than mid point cause I started at the entry level salary and nobody thought to jack it up on my behalf even though I do good work and damn sure deserve it.

Should be noted that this is the same gov who said our pensions are doomed unless they "change things" and who gave some dude in state government a 200k a year salary (which is more than the Gov himself makes btw)

So just goes to show that it's all bullshit. I honestly expect him to come out with some shit like "I'll give all workers a raise in time for Christmas" as a ploy to gain votes come nov.

Which I'll gladly take. But it won't change my vote.

>>15665859

Maybe. The dems once again don't seem keen on him making it to the final ballot though. They apparently wanted Harris, but she turned out to be far too dirty in unacceptably unsubtle ways. Now the story is Warren and Biden, both suck. It's quite a circus. They had a cinderella candidate drop in their laps with Tulsi but naturally they sabotaged her because she didn't follow the party line close enough and she was an important reason for their girl Harris rapidly losing traction.

>>15665611
When is the downturn coming? I want to spend my cash on cheap funds...

>>15665917
They jacked the salaries in an attempt to lure people to work for the state. But here's what they don't tell you till your on the hook.

New hires get dumped into a 401k plan. There is no management over it, the plan is one of those target date things based on your retirement date. No defined pension anymore. This is the default option.

You can retire after 30 years. But note the 401k above. What happens if there is big market shat? There goes your Retirement. Also if your dumping only the min amount over into it you sure ain't gonna have anything worth a damn after 30 years and really not if there's a big shat.

So yes you can start at age 18 and work till age 48 and walk out "fully retired" but what will you have when you do? Keep in mind that your health ins/other shit gets sucked out as well.

So new hires get the shaft.

Me, I got on before they fucked with shit.

Pension
401k and not that target shit either
27 yrs and out baby w/full benefits.

>bwl.a pays out 10% in divvies

Okay tell me why I should keep money in a savings account when this blessed stock exists

I've decided to use my saturday to do some learning. It turns out I am a beginner level with options.

>>15666107
Qyld with max leverage on robinhood is better. Safer.

>>15665859
>Bring down US debt to: $1 trillion dollars
He actually said this?

>>15665918
>ywn see Tulsi milkers live from the white house

>>15666179

If the final candidate is clever he will have her on as VP. But, ya know, DNC, being clever, lmao.

>>15665859
He also wants to put a tax on every stock trade.

Anyone doing forex?

>>15666107
everyone should keep all of their money in this stock

>>15666150
Lmao imagine being against national debt, where you can trade your infinite supply of green rectangles (or in the modern era, electrical signals) for actual goods/services with value since people have faith in your rectangles.

>>15666342

>>15665859
Bernie would crush the market and the economy. There are other methods to make college affordable. Securitize student loans and have the Fed use targeted QE with it, instead of a weird shotgun approach that doesn't really trickle down (but inflates asset prices).
The US Debt thing won't work as I mentioned here >>15666342
Climate Change can be resolved with nuking India/China- nuclear winter and no more stupid emissions. Once we've slaughtered enough those countries to make the US more than 40% of global pollution, then can we talk about our climate change plan.

Is baggie fucked? A-am i fucked...?

How is /smg/ allocated?

Enough stonks to ride this MONSTER BULL SETUP we've got going on?

Enough cash to buy the dips off of the MONSTER TRADE UNCERTAINTY WITH CHINA and sick WAR WITH IRAN cheapies?

>>15665859
>Serious Candidate
We're still a year away, September 2015 is where Trump emerged as a clear leader in the primaries.
One poll had him closely followed by Carla Fiorini, but booger-eating Ted Cruz was still part of the conversation, as were other gag candidates.

Any reason to think there's any weight to the whistle-blower allegations against disney?

I'm sick of getting BTFO, and I'm wondering about the unseen risk here. Maybe I need to set a stop loss, a little below 130?

Problem with a lot of those plans; free college, debt forgiveness, pay down national debt is where does the money come from to pay for it all?

Tax hikes? Yeah bet that will go over well.
But I mean I guess you could "create" the funds. Just print out $100 bills on that press, the paper is right there after all.

>>15666510
Yeah baggie got b& for pron

>>15666391

Yay! I made it in to a screen cap.

>>15666579
I read an article saying this was literally just all options expiring on the same day

>>15666545
2% stop loss is what I use.

>>15665611
Gaming will be the big money thing,
UOS is the right project to invest in

>>15666545
No. First the person was fired in 2017. Has made many of those same claims before and each one found to be baseless. Why would this one be any different.

>>15666590
The fuck is UOS?

>>15666666
wasted

>>15666666
What a fucking waste.

>>15666666
you fucked up anon, these digits were meant for link

>>15666666
Sorry guys

>>15666666
Designed to break the market monopoly, Ultra is the next-generation games distribution platform, offering new solutions to both developers and players. Ultra has a blockchain foundation empowered by our staged software download technology, that has reliably served more than 100 million downloads around the world.

how do I find safe puts/buys?

>>15666666
All things considered it was pretty smart for linkies to avoid the dubs satan get
Don’t sell your souls frens

>>15666695
>>15666689
>>15666679
>>15666678
>>15666670
You guys should get this faggot crypto shit out of here. I take back my apology. Fuck you faggot cryptons

I don't got a problem with the target funds themselves per say. But if your almost at retirement and the market shats your faced with an ugly choice.

Retire as planned and take a big hit in the wallet

or put off retirement and wait for the market/fund to recover the lost cash.

Which depending on how bad the shat is may take a while.

Also you gotta think about how old you are and just where you are in life at that point.

So yeah..

Didn't want to derail the thread, so I made it over here:
>>15666755

But I'd like your takes. Can we use "inflation" as a tax, but instead of just taxing Americans, it taxes everyone who holds USD?

After all, taxes are extremely unpopular, but the debt seems to be problematic.

>>15666754

Closer you are to retirement age the more defensive you must be in your investing choices. You are correct there is limited value in waiting out the market if you're pushing 60 already.

god dammit fuck stock split options exam questions why the hell do I care how many contracts I'll have after a 3:2 split I will just let the broker figure that out. stock splits were like 1 page of the section and then half of the fucking exam.

Poo

>ctrf-F "MSFT"
>0 results
Buy MSFT

>>15666940
I did with 142 dollar calls and then i lost a shit load of money and will probably lose more this week. Fuck off nigger

>Chewy
>got in at 33
>Got out at 34
>go look at it now: 26.5
WEWWWW dodged a real bullet there

...buy NTDOY

$160 calls on DIS expiring Nov 15th (after the launch of their streaming platform), genius or reckless?

>>15666842

Gotta teach something in business school. There is only so much accounting and finance information, gotta spread that across four years so the students pay four years of tuition.

>>15667230
this is free material offered by cboe. only 13 more exams to go

>>15667137
Holy shit i did the same thing, didnt it go to 37? I swear i looked and feel like i missed out...

>>15666666
FFS!!!

>>15667046
>opshuns
You deserve what you got.

>>15667686
Same, I thought "I sold too soon" at one point.

I think I need to start taking profits earlier, before I get CGC'ed again.

I SWEAR TO GOD I SERIOUSLY CONSIDERED SWITCHING MY CGC BAGS TO HEXO AND CRON THURSDAY NIGHT, BUT THEN GOT DISTRACTED BY FUCKING SCHOOLWORK. GODDAMN I WOULD BE SO MUCH CLOSER TO GETTING OUT OF THIS HOLE.

>>15666109
whats that site? there is a ton of free content out there

>>15666109
>>15668252
oh nvm its the cboe option course

>>15666583
Wat?

>>15667185
Yes. Think its gonna throw it into all time highs? And you think it's gonna blow past $160?

>>15668292
https://stockcharts.com/articles/tradingplaces/2019/09/friday-wasnt-selling-it-was-ma-630.html

>>15666107
>he doesnt know about NRZ
Also
>he doesn't know theres an anon here who owns a shit ton of that stock and fucks with people on market orders

>>15668319
>he doesn’t know that he does know and that’s the whole reason he’s memeing it

I’m DRiPing a Bwla, and I’m never ever selling.

>>15666717
Don’t

Is $aaoi going broku? They're at an atl at $10. Down from 100$. Short float is still 40% and they had some positive momentum lately

>>15666717
There's really not such a thing as a safe option. While the stock market as a whole isn't a zero-sum game, the options market is.

That said, selling covered calls is a way of limiting your exposure. Your maximum loses are limited, and you're really only losing the value that the stock would've gained, while gaining regular income from it if the price stays stagnant. So they're a good conservative play.

>>15668319
>NRZ
>UNIT
>MORL
I like these, but I wish I didn't buy in so high.

>>15665985
Last year actually it was really close to this time, buy your FAANG puts soon weekly for the inevitable earnings disappointments/wild ride into December then rebuy during Santa Rally you probably make like 500% then buy DIS for that sweet dividend and 200% more gains over 5 years.

>>15666784
Inflation is, effectively, a tax, but it's undesirable from a policy perspective because of who it hurts vs who it benefits. Inflation doesn't really fit into the progressive/regressive dichotomy - it generally hurts people who collect debts and people living on fixed income from pensions/annuities (or who have large cash/bond savings), while helping people who owe debts or own physical goods. It's also typically a but of a pain for income-earners - while their wages should theoretically keep up with cost of living increases, in practice wage friend tends to lag slightly, especially if workers don't take initiative and renegotiate regularly.

So generally, bad for the old, good for the young, and rich people don't really care either way.

>>15665611
>bought puts on friday expiring on 10/4
IM FUCKED

>>15668646
Why are you fucked?

>>15668685
No reason, I just like saying nonsensical things.

>>15668706
you wanna see fucked baggie has 5k in 300 SPY calls expiring monday

Threadly reminder that everything is OK and we’re NOT in a recession.

>>15668718
Isn't SPY pretty close to 300, though? How much does he really stand to lose?

Or phrasing it differently: Do I just fundamentally not understand options?

>>15668774
You don't understand options. If SPY isn't at 300 monday or god forbid it goes lower he will lose 5k in one day and its gone forever. I think he knows he fucked up because he deleted his post about it

going into ROKU calls monday depending on morning action, probably going to short term bounce regardless of long term action

>>15668623
It has to be better from the perspective of the elected public policy makers, because it doesn’t involve the words “tax hike” and allows them to get elected by advertising themselves as lowering taxes.

>>15668787
you're going to get btfo on monday. I hope the puts are going to last into the week at least.

>>15668319
It looks like nrz is swimming in debt. I'm new to reading sec filings but it looks whack to me

Just had a fresh 100% pure beef burger at McDonald’s and my mouth loved it. Fuck Burger King and Beyond veggie tranny meat mix

>>15666109
>your education: 0%

>>15668811
Well, notice I said "policy" rather than "politics." You're exactly right that encouraging inflation is great from a politician's perspective, because it's basically free money without political consequences. I mean, they've even shunted the responsibility for it off on the Fed, so if people actually notice and complain the politicians can be "shocked, shocked!" that such a thing could happen. All while tacitly encouraging it, despite the supposed Independence of the Fed.

I just meant that it isn't actually a good way to run an economy.

>>15668846
>t. Ronald McDonald
All jokes aside though, fuck vegans and fuck fake meat.

>>15668812
>Depending on morning action
??

>>15668777
He posted a nudy picture, thats why his posts are gone

>>15668884
Based.

>>15668871
I did notice that, and am in agreement. I still feel like I’m missing something important.

>>15668846
It makes me crazy that MCD is only $0.25 above my basis right now, market keeps clowning me.

They already have veggie burgers in some countries and are going to be testing it out in the US. They might be the nestle ones, which I’ve heard taste bad. That could hurt them, but I trust they know what they’re doing.

>>15668900
my bad.

Microsoft under $140 is a steal. GOP loves it cause it was already trustbusted through the Internet Explorer fiasco decades ago. They also seem to hate this new Silicon Valley tech elite but not MSFT. This shits gunna thrive.

>>15668995
I like how they’re positioned for cloud shit, but I wish there wasn’t exposure to their gaming and hardware.

Also, notice how Tim Cook is invited to the whitehouse for dinner, and they have a really good relationship? I might prefer Apple, but not what they’re both so much more then makers of personal computers, I might just want to own them both.

>>15668836

Profit is coming oh yes indeed, for AMRN shall deliver the coup de grace on the FDA on 11/14/19.

TV Ads are flying left and right, sales staff is roaming the country side, big time groups (AHA included) is backing AMRN. big time financial institutions have spent loads supporting AMRN, the data supports AMRN, 4 docs on the FDA panel are pro AMRN.

Such Profit may never be seen again, not in such a big ass lump sum anyway. T-babies will be bought you bet your ass as will some VFORX for the long road to age 65 my good man.

Hell I might buy more DIS on Monday just cause I can.

40,000 - 80,000 is what I'm looking to get. When you make shit this is like Lotto money you get my drift.

>>15669332
Hate it or like it VFORX is a godsend. Get the whole market, bonds and all in one swoop that don't cost you out the ass to buy and keep dumping money over into. It does the work for you, which is way fucking better than I could do, cause shit I know jack shit about the finer points of how the market works.

I'll make a shit pot on AMRN that's true but hell just cause you get lucky once don't mean you won't get burned down the road. Why risk your hard earned dough on dodgy shit that could make you even worse off than you started?

Nope sometimes its better to thank your lucky stars and take your Profit and scoot pronto.

>>15668014

Cost average in and out of volatile stocks. The dude weed is prone to false reversals and fakeouts on the daily and occasionally weekly time frames. Use trailing stop to protect gains (do so manually if brokerage doesn't have that functionality), use a combination of low ball bids and stops to improve cost average. Consider hedging against drawdown with puts.

>>15668846
After BYND ipo'd i went to A&W to sample this magic "meat". Paid i think 25-50 cents more for the privilege than the posted price on real beef burg. Had a bite or two. Understood at once. It's all marketing hype. Slightly improved flavor vegetable burg? No. The peacock don't fly.

Now that isn't to say BYND won't become default standard of veggie burgs. If it does it will be plenty successful. The market for this kind of product, however, is unlikely to explode in size.

>>15668846
>tranny meat mix

Pretty gud analog btw. Maybe it'll fool you in pictures or from a distance. Get up close and cozy with it though, you will know something just ain't right and this ain't anything like the authentic McCoy.

I have a question, if I have a margin account, but don't use margin, only cash, to buy a security, can the broker still lend out those shares to short sellers?

>>15669778
I'm not sure but you can prevent that kind of tomfoolery by putting your shares up for sale at a ridiculously high limit price or very low stop loss. Anything that puts those shares on the books with an active order unlikely to ever fill.

>>15669778
>can the broker still lend out those shares to short sellers?
yes

>>15669848
that's clever

>>15669848
That's a myth.

>>15669871
Is there a way to make them not do that?

Why are so few people here buying ETSY?

>>15669896
>Is there a way to make them not do that?
no.. but who cares..
>That's a myth.
it looks like so.. Quora answer from a finance professor:

"They’re really not ‘your’ shares, they’re in street name. Your name is attached to them only in the broker’s records. The underlying firm (the one that issued the shares) has no idea who you are.

Have you noticed that you get your proxy statements, annual reports, dividends and the like, from your broker, and not from the firm? The firm doesn’t know you. Nor do they want to.

You can’t prevent your shares from being borrowed, because you don’t have any shares, if they’re in your account.

From a practical standpoint, you’ll never know if your shares are borrowed for shorting, anyway. No one can tell you if they’ve been borrowed or not,because no one knows.

The broker just dips into his pool of margin accounts, and allows another customer (or another firm) to ‘borrow’ them. In theory.

In practice, no shares really ever leave. It’s all an accounting function, one you’ll never know about, anyway. It’s all back office bookkeeping, there are no certificates, anywhere in the process."

>>15669896
>myth

Is it? I don't know exactly how brokerages work in this regard. It seems to me that a tranche of shares on the books with some sort of pending order should not be simultaneously loaned to short sellers. If you know how this works or have a link i can read i would appreciate. It's interesting to me.

>>15669920
I missed the dip, I can’t buy it up here.

>>15669935
This explanation is too vague. What are the rules? What exactly happens?

I WANT CHEAPIES THIS WEEK

>>15669935
Cause they can't fuck with your shit in a cash account. If I hold those shares in a margin account that I paid for with my cash without a loan from them, why should they be allowed to lend out those shares? They don't belong to the broker. There's no loan so there's no collateral. They have no right. But the benefits of margin are very useful especially when stumbling across unique opportunities and you don't want to wait for cash to settle 3 days from now.

>>15669947
Just good ol' accounting. That won't stop em.

>>15669962
the best way is to contact your broker and ask them directly but from what i understand the only way to prevent that is to have a cash account. but cash accounts suck if your'e a frequent trader.. you can't short you can't trade often..

>>15669957
Etsy is going back to 73 soon and will moon to $110 in 2 quarters.

>>15668836
They made some huge investment in new properties a few months back

>>15670127
im pretty retarded but the debt to equity ratio and steep negative cash flow looks scary. LTC looks juicy since it targets aging boomers and it looks like its balance sheet is solid

>>15668836
>>15670187
>>15670127
Theres a guy in here that has been bashing LCI all fucking year and pumping NRZ and MO... his portfolio is either utter shit or he is legit trying to get people to lose money.. it's literally the same fucking guy.. what a piece of shit.. i don't see him bashing LCI anymore.. pretty sure he's still in here pumping that fucking trash NRZ and MO.. what a complete fucking ass hole!

MO is going to $30...

I haven't looked to deep into NRZ but i'm guessing its a complete pile of burning shit just like his whole portfolio

ETSY - even better question is when some "bigger" fish buys them due to them stealing market share from the bigger fish.

They've already bought some new startup
company that deals with music related items.

or you know starts paying out a Divvy.

Here's something you guys might not have realized: America did a deal with the Australian PM to construct a Rare Earth Metals processing facility.

Why does this matter? Because it's a strategic resource that China had dominated and implicitly threatened to cut off during the trade war.

Strap your ass in.

>>15670310
I wrote a response to this but my phone refreshed. Basically: oh shit I think you’re talking about me, I have no idea how to evaluate an mREIT, I’ve never pumped NRZ but I do talk to grim about it when he’s kind enough to give us updates.

I still think you’re full of shit and that chihuahuas are garbage dogs. But if you made anons money, then I’m happy. I’d say take some profits, but I’m sure you already have.

>>15670336
According to a stock forecast tool in 5 years this will be almost 200 a pop.

>>15670359
are you the faggot that kept posting that stupid fucking picture of a chart of LCI next to my post? you really are shit teir and you should probably just kys if so..

>>15670310

You sure are a paranoid bastard.

>>15670362
>stock forecast tool
Which one?

>>15669920
>vaseline & little witch academia
heh

>>15666606
That actually sounds not great, if other have made the same allegations. They're Disney, but they're not immune from accounting fuckery, maybe Iger is in a rush to get out for a reason.

>>15670439
why? because i've been having to deal with that faggots shit for months?? all he ever fucking did was pump MO and NRZ and then talk shit on LCI... in EVERY fucking thread... funny how he all of a sudden isn't posting as much with his extreme confidence huh? funny how he couldn't put on a trip to stand behind his picks.. he's just a big fucking pussy and he's trying to lose people money but yet you want to defend him or what?? or maybe you are him??

MO is going to $30.....

>>15670474
post a link to all this extreme confidence pumping, I want to make sure you're talking about me.

>putting on a trip is a good thing that should be encouraged
If you like that shit there's a website that caters to you

>>15670471
>They're Disney, but they're not immune from accounting fuckery

Accounting fuckery isn't the only fuckery nouveau Disney is in to.

When you buy calls or puts how far out do you generally buy these options?
>a day
>days
>a week
>few weeks
>a month
>months
>a year
>years

>>15670494
wha?

If you're talking about /tv/ shit, I don't really care. For some reason, the insects LOVED black panther. I saw it thanks to the wonderful generosity of HMNY, but I wasn't impressed.

They know how to put butts in seats, and they track the current zeitgeist a hell of a lot better than I do.

>>15670490
my trip is on for a reason.. unless you are too stupid to realize that.. kind of like if you're too stupid to realize MO is a value trap and NRZ is a reit in a low interest market....

If you want to see what i'm talking maybe go through the archives.. just about every thread between may and september he posted the same exact fucking picture and then continued on to post about NRZ and MO

When you buy calls or puts how far out do you generally buy these options?
>day(s)
>week(s)
>month(s)
>year(s)

>>15666107
Post your math. Bowl America pays out--I believe--$0.70 in dividends anually, so unless you're paying only $7 per share, you're not getting a 10% yield.

>>15670354
There is one in Nevada I think they're trying to scale up fast too.

>>15670534
The deeper your pockets the further out you can afford to go.

>>15670530
It's an mREIT though, which changes the math.

We've had a low interest environment for months now, and REITs have been one of the highest performing sectors. Seems yield chasers love reits and utis right now, and I don't see bond yields getting very high in the near future.

And if they've taken on debt, low interest environment should be in their favor, no?

>>15670572
oh so you're just going to continue to pump NRZ?!?!?

have fun holding onto that when mortgages start getting paid off early and the RMBS portfolio diminishes...then they take on more debt to buy more debt or maybe issue more shares and dilute the share structure... I won't bother explaining anymore to you.. it's your money.. just suprised you aren't bashing LCI anymore.... NOT!

>>15670548

Exactly. It's not a coincidence that Trump made those recent comments about not needing a trade deal with China WHEN he was in a press conference with the Australian Prime Minister.

It's a strategic maneuver for leverage.

>>15670610
>can’t stop shilling his stock for one fucking post
I guess someone really hurt your feefees

Movie night movie night! Get in here! This week's feature is Ken Russel's Altered States (1980)!

>>15670662
he was just a huge faggot that seems to of disapeared... hmmm.. i wonder why?? maybe because his stocks are still fucking shit and LCI has climbed over 100% this year... hhhhmmmm

>>15670688
How much did you sell while you keep telling people the short squeeze has just begun?

>>15670535
Right now yield is like 4.5

>>15670700
Oh you think i sold at the start of the short squeeze??

If i'm still posting with my trip.. i still have LCI... hence.. why i have a fucking trip...

you are one retarded fucking faggot.. please.. kys

>>15670610
>have fun holding onto that when mortgages start getting paid off early

Lmao, this. Let me let you all in on a little secret, some insider information if you will. NewRez purchased my mortgage not too long ago. 30-year, fixed-rate mortgage on paper. Sounds like a good deal for them, huh? But things are not all as they seem. You see, I've been socking away a little extra each month, and I've continued to do that with NewRez as well. These extra payments double the normal principal payment, sometimes more. We're only four years into the mortgage. I figure it should be paid off in about seven years following current projections. NRZ keeps sending me letters, begging me to take "advantage" of my built-up equity and do a cash-out refinance. I requested a payoff amount on their website once just for fun... The very next day, someone from NRZ begs me to reconsider and says they want to make sure I won't refinance with another lender. It's pathetic. Utter desperation.

>>15670795
I have once fallen into the REIT trap chasing dividends.. it was a hard lesson but it also applies to bond etfs.. people don't understand that when the notes get paid off early and a lot of times they DO get paid off early.. it takes away cash flow from the company... when this happens they cut dividend and the stock usually tanks and takes awhile to build back up... I know that there are some good REITs out there.. but imo most aren't mREITs and the few mREITs that are good.. don't pay out dividends with over 10% yeild... but yet.. i have to see this one faggot in here post over and over and over about NRZ while the price just continues to sink.. and then to top it off he constantly bashes LCI... it's fucking sickening.. he's either fucking retarded or purposely losing people money.. people like him kill this thread..

TLRD going bankrupt, bought calls on a dying company with no hope due to no due diligence. Remember to do your for diligence

>>15670887
damn man that sucks.. always fishy when dividend is high and so is debt....

>>15670910
On the bright side, now that they've basically gone to zero in value they can't pull down the rest of my folio and I'm back to green days

>>15670887
Post a source or your post is getting a one-way ticket to the SEC tip desk.

>>15670953
I know that feel.. once had a company go bk on me.. it dropped so fast.. i didn't listen to the bears that were trying to warn me.. this was years and years ago.. but i'll always remember it

>>15670887
Is there still time to buy puts?

I forgot to mention this earlier, but I saw Romano's Macaroni Grill $100 gift cards going for $60 (or maybe it was $70) at Costco this week. FYI. As always, do your own due diligence.

>>15670887
Not seeing any news on this. Insiders just bought last week.

>>15670976
>random anon says a company is going bankrupt
>you: insider trading!!!

You do realize larpers frequent 4chan right?

>>15670887
>>15670976
I have been searching this whole time for any kind of announcement about bankruptcy for TLRD and haven't found anything. Unless you are able to produce a source in the next 30 minutes, I am left with the following possible conclusions: (1) you are privy to insider information about TLRD and probably engaging in insider trading, or (2) you are spreading false or misleading information about the company, probably for nefarious purposes.

>>15671120
You do realize it's a crime to lie about companies entering bankruptcy proceedings, right?

>Manipulation is intentional conduct designed to deceive investors by controlling or artificially affecting the market for a security. Manipulation can involve a number of techniques to affect the supply of, or demand for, a stock. They include: spreading false or misleading information about a company; improperly limiting the number of publicly-available shares; or rigging quotes, prices or trades to create a false or deceptive picture of the demand for a security. Those who engage in manipulation are subject to various civil and criminal sanctions.
https://www.sec.gov/fast-answers/answerstmanipulhtm.html

>>15670555
So say you had 15k, what is in your opinion, a safe time frame to go out to for a buy option?

>>15671162
Even then I highly doubt the government will do anything about it. It's like the post you made bashing NRZ. Anon likely has a similiar experience and likely why he believes it will go bankrupt. Nonetheless very difficult to prove he is indeed manipulating the price especially if he isn't some trader with loads and loads of cash.

>>15671070
how liquid are macaroni grill gift cards?

>>15671070
I just cook all my food. More delicious this way

>Walmart will stop selling e-cigarettes in the wake of vaping-related deaths

Just occurs to me that this would force more people to use black market routes

>Old Boomer at my church today
>"All these kids pretending they can't get good jobs. They should just be software engineers like Alex. He got hired right away."

Yes, we should all go to USC and get mathematics degrees so we can all be software engineers.

>>15671221
I never posted any false info about NRZ. I just said I was paying my mortgage off early. He said expressly that "TLRD [is] going bankrupt," which is apparently false information about the company. Manipulation is not just manipulating the price driectly through orders. Read it again. "Manipulation is intentional conduct designed to deceive investors." "Spreading false or misleading information" is also means of manipulating the market for a security.

>>15671319
Ummmm...
Guys?
Also who are the banks gettinf trillions in repos?
Is it all connected?

>>15671243
Romano's is a pretty popular joint around here, or at least that was my impression.

>>15671231
Thats not an area I have any experience with, but assuming there is no problem with reselling those gift cards, from a quick check on Ebay, it looks like you very well might be able to sell them for a good margin over the $70+tax to buy them. It's not something I plan to look into any futher than that.

>shitpost about my losses in TLRD
>Immediately get accused of insider trading or manipulation through negative exposure

Haha wtf, I'm a zoomer with a sub 5K trading "portfolio", I'm not manipulating shit. I'm just over exaggerating a down trend you autistic animal

>>15671324
The labor market is actually pretty hot right now if you have relevant skills... At my work they are struggling to fill positions

Investing avice to tradie making 25-50k over next 5 years other then get different job? What are account minimums?

>>15671365

>>15671449
I wish i was skilled enough to write tripfag on the guy with the blue shirt.. and then anon on all the other people and then shit post on all the sticks being used

>>15666584
At what point did you make the move up from 1%?

>>15671386
Same here, but the jobs don't pay very well. I'm talking about higher paying jobs that give you something similar to what the boomers got i.e. ability to buy a house in the suburbs with a large down payment.

>>15671328
So is wells fargo and chase going to pull a fannie mae and freddie macncheese?

>>15671410
Evidently you should put it all in AMRN, then, after the inevitble buyout, dump all your profits into T, leave it on DRIP, and then it doesn't really matter because taxpayers are footing the bill for your pension anyway.

>>15669920
Noice memepad I got a T420 blaze it, comy keyboard but shite screen

Any idea what SPY will do by monday?

>saying anything negative about a stock is illegal cause price manipulation!!! (>>15670976)
>makes a post saying a certain stock WILL get bought out (>>15671525)

>>15671365
I suppose we'll just leave that to the authorities to decide, won't we?

>>15671602
In my case, it was obviously ironic. Not so in the case of our dear tripfriend as evidenced by the fact that he immediately was asked by another poster whether it was too late to buy puts, showing that the other poster took the original comment to mean that TLRD was entering actual bankruptcy proceedings.

Oh shit... looks like it's time to bomb Japan!
Again!

>>15671646
I enjoy your shitposts about how the OP should have a warning that stock manipulators known to the SEC use these threads.

>>15671386
What field? I have no skills, but I gotta start somewhere!

>>15671471
It's okay LCIguy, I'm capable of reading filenames and had a hearty chuckle

Is GM stock going to plummet? There's a strike going on and I thought it was going to go down in price but it's not. I was hoping to buy in when investors dump out of fear, but it's holding. What the fuck?

Macy’s fag here
Do i cut my loses on monday and sell or hold?

>>15671646
Lol.

It's like does reporting every single person even do anything? Eg during the live powell speech on youtube the other week a bunch of people were spamming chat and saying to either buy gold or sell gold which felt scammy. Considering they seemed to have a personal interest in it going one way or another and may have actually been talking about stocks idk for sure. However thank you for making me aware that manipulators could be on here, not sure how I didnt realize manipulators could be on here. Cant say for sure about that one anon.

It seems pretty obvious on other boards like yahoo finance
>delusional guy who keeps saying a stock is doing okay and will go up for likely a year
>keeps going down and is now delisted
>keeps saying its okay and how certain things are in the works with no credible info that he somehow has access to

Or stock twits
>a pleathora of delusional people saying the stock will go up or down for one reason or another while acting like they are 100% certain

>>15671525
Non-union tradie 1099 contractor

>SEC man knocks on my door
>Clench my anus
>Body tightens up
>Heart pumping out of my chest
>I... I... IM COOOMING
>SEC man busts through the door, slipping on the COOOM I left in my hallway
>I run buck naked up the stairs, my hairy ass exposed to the man here to arrest me
>He gets up to follow me while swiping my COOM off of his Tailored Brands® suit jacket
>I lock and barricade myself in my room
>By the time he busts through the door I've already shitposted TLRD into bankruptcy so his suit disappears as quickly as the value of my TLRD calls
>Now naked in my room with me his face contorts with anger, then disgust, confusion, finally landing on... Pleasure
>PLEASURE
>OH YES... HES ... HES... COOOOOOMIN

>>15670494
>Accounting fuckery isn't the only fuckery nouveau Disney is in to.
what did yous mean by this?

>>15671646

What’s this pattern called?

Almost looks like finishing a shoulder, where the first shoulder and head were also head and shoulders.

>>15672291
why would you be trying to trade berkshire on technicals?

>>15672348
I just thought it was interesting in a fractally way, but the thought of taking profits did occur to me.

>>15672348
Also, I’m tired of seeing profits become losses. They have some fairly heavy exposure to financials, which i am not bullish on until the yield curve improves.

This is some nice stock discussion we got going on in this thread here
I like it

I notice confusion, vulnerability, dedication and unrealistic levels of self-confidence
yes, yes, all the right ingredients for a quaint small spec get-together

>>15671319
>wtf! why don't millenials want to pay $3000/mo for a 500 sq ft. apartment

Do the kikes not understand that most people are broke? It's like there are a million articles complaining that people have no money saved up for emergencies, then when people finally wise up and start saving they crash the economy because we aren't spending enough.

How the fuck do you beat this game?

>>15671995
Honestly I don't think you have anything to worry about. Posting your opinion on where a stock is going isn't enough to get you thrown in prison. I mean look at all those financial firms that put out analyses on a stock going up or down. Heck I may have seen ones where they treat it as 100% fact that the stock will rise or fall. By that logic they are manipulators too especially considering they may have a vested interest in said stock.

>>15672710
I'm not worried at all, even if the guy had the balls to report me I'm sure the SEC wagie who had to read it just chuckled and dismissed it immediately after reading 4channel

>>15672682
Crime

Honestly. How do you guys expect to get rich when poeple working as brokers don't even get rich?

>>15672818
>How do you guys expect to get rich when poeple working as brokers don't even get rich?

I don't expect to get rich, I just expect my money not to lose value as I hodl stonks.

>>15672818
B-But I watched the wolf of wallstreet Anon

>>15672849
I'm am sorry I doubted you.

>>15672818
By making plays with a 90% chance to lose all my money, which wallstreet broker fags are too low test to do, so the payoff is greater

>>15673070
Lmao pasted my medical issues instead of trip

What’s everyone’s thoughts on JC Penny long term?

I bought up a menial amount at .65 cents with some extra cash I had in my account when it was rising back up from the low a month or so ago. It’s back up to a dollar now and I was just wondering if I should hold it or not. There’s not much money on the table so it’s not a big deal either way but I figured I’d get an outside opinion on it.

>>15673467
are you actually JAB?

>>15673074
I hope your lungs get better :)

>>15673467
Bad examples!
Dan Zanger => Luck. In the right place at the right time.
Tim Syke => Fraud.

There are numerous super traders with audited accounts !
PTJ, Soros, Ed. Seykota, Marty Schwartz, Larry Williams, Vic Sperandeo, Peter Brandt, Jim Chanos, Louis Bacon, Stan Druckenmiller, Michael Marcus etc etc etc

>>15672291
that's not a h&s and trading patterns like this is no edge

>>15670310
>Theres a guy in here that has been bashing LCI all fucking year and pumping NRZ and MO
the funny thing is MO is literally cancer and LCI is trying to help people.. imagine investing your money in a company that sells a product killing 50% of its users... only big tobacco can pull something like that

>>15673544
/smg/ is a friend of the tobacco industry
everyone dies eventually right

I have more of a problem with fat people than smokers, there are more of them and they cost the system more than smokers

smoking in moderation = okay
dying = okay
being a fattt person = not okay
being a person who never exercises (even if you aren't fat) = not okay

>>15673738
the tobacco industry is evil, have paid scientifics to release fake science in the past, is targetting teenagers with engineered products that addict you faster. 3/4 smokers started when they were influenceable teenagers. once they're hooked they are addicted for life and it's hard to stop. it kills more than any other drug. the sugar industry is also evil.

The key is timing, research and capital in order to make Profit.

Time - Getting in when the stock takes a big shat, such as during Mega Dip 1.0 last winter. Also time you have to let the stock price climb or drip before you need the Profits. Time can be your friend or your hated enemy depending on needs.

Research - Don't just take some random words at face value, read up on the company yourself.
If they are a company who's stock is in the shat but are delivering on what they promise then they may be worth a look.

Capital - The seed money you need to get the ball rolling on your path to Profit. One puny share will do you little good unless you got 40 years and the the company in question is growing like crazy and splits the stock over time. Even then the payoff is dicey cause you know splits are rare now and the company may have hard times over the next 40 years.
This is not the "Amazon" days anymore.

EX: your wanting to drip for income later. If your young this means you need less up front seed money. If your older the more seed money you need to make up the difference. If your 50 your outta luck cause it'd take a shit load of seed money to even make anything worth a damn by the time your 65.

>>15673935
Putting all your money into the market is dumb. Keep a wad in the bank in case "shit happens"
Also if the market shats hard there goes your "retirement"

Plenty of people have made this mistake. In the 30's they offed themselves from skyscrapers in New York cause of it.

>>15671745
HODL! BUY MOAR! MACYS GONNA RECOVER YO! KEEP TAKING THAT DIVVIE WOOOOO

>>15674020
>Putting all your money into the market is dumb
>being this much of a weenie

> Keep a wad in the bank in case "shit happens"
>giving away your money to literal Jews

>Plenty of people have made this mistake. In the 30's they offed themselves from skyscrapers in New York cause of it.
>things that never happened
>citation needed

>>15674155
J. K. GALBRAITH, in his classic study of the 1929 Wall Street crash, wrote: 'In the United States, the suicide wave that followed the stock market crash is also part of the legend of 1929. In fact, there were none. For several years before 1929, the suicide rate had been gradually rising. It continued to increase in that year, with a further and much sharper increase in 1930, 1931, and 1932 ... The statistics for New Yorkers, who might be assumed to have had a special propensity for self-destruction derived from their special propinquity to the market, show only a slight deviation from those of the country as a whole.' Indeed, the suicide rate in the US was higher in the summer months before the crash when the stock market was prospering. One cause of the myth is that there were some suicides related to the crash, including jumping from windows. For example, two men jumped out of a window in the Ritz. Allegedly, clerks in downtown hotels started asking guests whether they wanted a room for sleeping or jumping. However, few people jumped from windows: jumping from a bridge, dousing oneself in gasoline and lighting, gassing and shooting were all used. The press, though, did not let reality stop them from running lurid stories about huge numbers of suicides.

Pretty confident I'm gonna rake in 40,000 - 80,000 with AMRN. Realistically the final amount would be in the middle, 60,000, due to the average stock price of 30 + the buyout price of 30.

So how to spend my new found Profit? I've already got a plan in mind.

T-babies - $8,400. Would give 250 total shares to let drip for 20+ years.

VFORX - Total market fund; Bonds & Stocks. Seed it with $6,000 upfront then add to it each month automatically outta my paycheck. Keep at it till I retired.

$45,600 left.

40,000 - dumped into a High Yield account. Let grow till retirement . Add to it each month outta my check

5,600 - Dumped into reg savings for "shit happens" type deals. Add to this each month till retirement.

This is on top of my work 401k and pension, plus my other stocks and cash.

>>15674216
donate it to FSF

>>15672710
The thing is he didn't post an opinion. He stated it as if it were a fact that TLRD is going bankrupt. That's not an opinion or prediction. Either they've started bankruptcy proceedings or they haven't. Obviously my interpretation of his post was correct given that others interpreted it as a statement of fact. He only backpedaled when I called him out on it and he started to feel the heat.

>>15671473
When I hit a stop loss before the moon mission

>>15674216
I know jack shit about the finer points of the market. I do know that it's stupid easy to go broke if you fuck up though. So sometimes it's better to take your Profits and be damn glad you got any at all.

Having a fall back position in case it all goes to hell is a smart play.

>>15671728
do the opposite of what you think you should do. I'm just now starting to learn this.

>>15673738
>I have more of a problem with fat people than smokers, there are more of them and they cost the system more than smokers

Absolutely untrue.

t. healthcare fag

>>15673544
>>15673925
Funny observation about MO vs. LCI, but desu I suspect the hullabaloo about tobacco and nicotine is overdone. How do they know in the case of a death supposedly caused by smoking that smoking was the sole or primary factor? Yet big food doesn't come under such intense scrutiny despite their own sgady manipulative practices, e.g. their marketing of sugary junk food to children.

>>15674312
We're going to need some actual facts to back up that assertion, buddy.

>What do you mean you don't believe me? Don't you know I change bed pans for a living!

Prepare for bad news from the China-America trade negotiations.

>>15673467
The word "menial" doesn't mean really small or paltry. It's primary meaning is related to house chores. You might hear menial user a synonym for grunt work or something like that, but I've never heard menial used to mean small in quantity. Sorry I don't have any special insight into JCP.

>>15672682
Because they think the economy does well when “everyone” is making money. They see macro scale numbers, they dont look where the money actually goes.
These people really dont understand that people arent paid enough to spend money. People I know fall into two categories.
Even doctors and shit barely have enough to make middle class lifestyles.
The rich just don’t understand. Its why you see clips of billionaires thinking a can of coke is $20.
Then when problems come up they blame politicians, the ones they paid off to break rules for them to fuck over american wages.
These rich didnt even “make it” themself. 99% of people in power were born in it. Given it, not earned. They just have no perspective.
It will only get worse for people until a revolution happens. There is too much power in too few, it’s impossible to let the system work itself out. When will walmart senpai let half of americas wealth back in the economy? That will NEVER happen.
That’s why we come to /smg/ everyday. Yes we. We need to make money so we can keep our family lines above the water line.
We live in the best country on earth to “make it” despite all the cards stacked against us

>>15674401
The amount he bought would be appropriate to a servant. ie not much

>>15672682
I don't think they're expecting millennial to buy those luxurious apartments...
>Do the kikes not understand that most people are broke? It's like there are a million articles complaining that people have no money saved up for emergencies, then when people finally wise up and start saving they crash the economy because we aren't spending enough.
In fact why is America like this?

>>15674333
>How do they know in the case of a death supposedly caused by smoking that smoking was the sole or primary factor?
lol the tobacco industry used that argument decades ago but scientific evidence is there. it's the smoke that is toxic not the nicotine in itself. just look at
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HD__r66sFjk
you dont even need to be a researcher to understand this shit is extremely bad for you

>>15671538
My T440s came with a cracked screen. One of those 1366 crappy resolution ones. I upgraded it to a 1080p.

>>15674523
Nicotine does constrict blood veins. It does have some health risks in itself but it's certainly not dangerous as the smoke is.

>>15674523
>smoke
>makes water+CO2
>vitamin e oil found in dead guys
So if you found smokers dead and it had super crack in it you would just assume its spontanious chemistry or something?

>>15674312
The stock market is literally one of the few places where if I do the inverse of either buying a call(buy a put instead) or buying a put(buy a call instead) I'd be making more money. Cause if my odds were 50/50 my choices wouldn't hemorrhage so bad eg 70/30.

Strangely I'm at about breakeven in total funds, in fact Im doing better than a month ago with a $400+ loss that couldve been worse had I stayed stubborn.

>>15674523
Is this what “researchers” do?
They know bodies heal right?
Might as well tell people not to play with swords and show a body stabbed 700 times

My etsy stock is doing well but I'm bummed out I only have 330 shares.

Is there a way to get more shares without paying for it?

Everyone ready for MSFT soaring tomorrow?

>>15674630
Them saying that xbox live membership has flat lined and they will no longer be reporting membership numbers is a bad sign.

>>15674577
Sell Puts. Pay less for shares if the price drops. Collect premium either way

>>15674567
that vid is not scientifc research.. i'll stop with the tobacco debate now its dangerosity is already a well-proven scientific fact. denying tobacco causes harm or questionning if it's a primary cause of illness is flat earther IQ tier.

>>15674360
>Don't you know I change bed pans for a living!

I am a finance exec and run the chargemaster for one of the most prestigious hospital networks on Earth. I periodically personally review patients charts to ensure we are extracting maximum value from each one and smokers are the bulk of our oncology and cardiovascular cases. Everything from tumor excision to angioplasties to gammaknife therapy to lung transplants.

The fatties are expensive too but nowhere near as much.

The fat smokers though...now those are the real cash cows, pun intended.

>>15674391
Buy in to the s o y stocks bois, s o y beans are destined for the moon.

>>15674669
My vanguard account only let's me buy covered calls. They said my 50k salary isn't enough to be approved for margin.

>>15674391
Prepare for good news on the China-America trade negotiations.

>>15674724
>>15674391
Prepare for CRAB news on the China-America trade negotiations.

>>15674709
What? What about robin hood?

>>15674312
Saying smokers cause more than cardiovascular disease is retarded and you are not a medical fag. If you are i feel bad for everyone you care for. Over 2/3 of americans are OBESE or overweight. It only gets higher every day. Being a fat lazy ass is the cause of 99% of all health problem.
Eg chest pain/hard to breath(heart attack) is the most common reason to call an ambulance. Smokers dont cost much on the system compared to these fat asses, and fat asses are WAY more plentiful. Cardiovascular related problems vs smoking related arent even comarable. A mountain compared to a mole hill

>>15672682
always save, no matter what the economic conditions are.

>>15674691
You realize that there arent equal amounts of fatties and smokers, right? For every smoker there are probably like 12 fatties

>>15674751
I don't have a Robinhood account. Not sure of their margin / option account rules.

>>15674764
First off your grammar is absolutely abysmal. Almost as bad as your reading comprehension.
> and you are not a medical fag. If you are i feel bad for everyone you care for.

I said I was a finance exec, I am not a doctor. I have an excellent birds eye view of who costs how much.

Secondly the link between smoking and CV disease has been extensively documented for decades. It wreaks havoc on blood pressure, which in turns affects the kidneys (you ARE familiar with the renin–angiotensin system right?) which eventually leads to CKD which eventually leads to dialysis. Which is very, very expensive. Smokers even fuck up their peripheral blood vessels; we do a lot of peripheral angioplasties at our facilities for them.

You're out of your league on this one.

So is the next happening coming? Wtf is going on with the repo markets?

>>15674814
Thoughts on Catasys? This seems like a stock that would be right up your alley.

https://catasys.com/pdf/Catasys-Presentation-Sept-2019.pdf

>3.5 trillion medical expenses annually
>everyone fat as fuck
>210 billion on obesity related medical expenses, less than 1/16th is obviously bullshit.
>170bil for smokers
>4bil for cancer(seriously?) the fuck the charging smokers for?
Where the fuck does the rest of the money go?

>>15674814
The numbers dont lie anon. You are just wrong. Being a medical fag or not

Hmm, net worth now: 41,000

Net worth after AMRN profits;

41,000 + 60,000 = 101,000.00

Not bad. No credit card or car to pay off either. All before age 40. Still got 13 years to go till retirement mark so still got time to bump that even more. Then if Evofem pays off, well hey all the more profit.

If my investments pay off and what I save each month It's a pretty safe bet I'd have 200,000.00 or close to that when it's time to walk out. Still got my pension to which is not figured into my total.

Zero debt which is a plus aside from house. Plan to keep it that way to.

I get by on a shitty 27k a year now. But that may soon change if my new job comes in eoy so yeah even more Profit.

Go me..

>>15674814
Im phone posting on 4chan. You come here for grammar lessons?
Facts are facts. Smoking costs are a far cry from the affects of fatties on our health care system. Just look at the numbers.
Sure a smoker costs more than a fatty on average. But there are more fatties, some fatties smoke, compounding the health effects.
Im not a big medical fag but i have lots in my family.
Just basic factual true undebatable numbers trump smokings numbers, and accounting for the fact almost all other health conditions are probably related to overeating/bad eating. Unhealthy fat fucks are what is crippling the system. Smoking rates drop every year. And smokers spend way more money of of pocket than other faggots. No one is giving a smokers new lungs to keep dragging the system down. We do anything and everything for fatties.
Go check back through all your patients and find all the fatties between the smokers. Estimate how much worse fat smokers cost that just smokers. You’ll see...

>>15674902
Let my investments work till age 65. Live off of my pension from 50 to then.

So at 65 my T-babies would rake in $30,000.00
VFORX would rake in 50,000.00 (or more since I plan to add to it each month)
My 401k would be hitting damn near 100,000.00

Final tally at 65:

370,000.000 + Plus pension. Then if still there at 67, S.S income.

Keep in mind I get by on shitty 27k now. Even if inflation doubles the cost of everything I've still got enough to live pretty damn good.

>>15675087
>pension
From what?

>>15675087
>>15674902
btw unrelated but if you could drop that fucking reddit spacing we would all be grateful.

>>15675159
my workplace. unlike private sector jobs my pension is backed by the state. state would have to go bankrupt before it got the ax. Can't be fucked with either.

Now they can and have changed things for new hires but those already in the system are locked in for the "good" package if you got in before 2007. Those hired after 2014 are really fucked.

>>15671353
are you sure you trust niggers on ebay? all it takes is getting burned on one sale and you've fucked up a lot of your margin

>>15674391
are the pigs gonna fly

>>15675259
But seriously though, that reddit spacing is killing my eyes

>>15675259
For ex: Pre 2007 - put in 27 yrs and retire w/full pension & medical till your dead. So you start at age 18 and walk out at age 45 drawing a fat wad. plus a separate 401k package. Still young enough to work someplace else if you wanted and "retire" again. But due to the low col of the state you shouldn't have to unless you got bills out the ass or some shit. After 2014 - 30 years minimum, no pension just a 401k option. So you'd be 48 instead of 45. The downside, if your close to retirement mark and the market shits your fucked. I fully expect them to change things again soon. Soon it'll be age 65 at minimum before you can walk out, no mater what age you start.

>>15675275
You cant sell that shit on eBay. Pretty sure it’s against the rules so they dont cover you. So if someone orders one and says they didnt get it you are fucked. Eg all my sales on ebay i get fucked on eBay has always covered for me cause i do shit by the rules. People eell login codes and try to flip cards but its hard to do when a single loss can fuckup your whole operation for pennies. $70 a card though and asking for $90 free shipping might actually be a good ass margin though to make up for losses. Maybe selling locally would be better on something like offerup than online.

>>15675357
>>15675209
Imagine being an adult and caring this much about how people format their posts on 4chan

There's loopholes you can exploit in the retirement regs also. State gives you sick time and vacation time. paid I might add. At retirement time any vac time you got they reimburse you for. Any vac time over 240 hrs gets dumped over into sick time. Sick time can be used as credit to knock down the time you gotta put in yet still draw a full pension. Or you can use it the other way to increase your payout without having to actually work that time. Vac time goes up over time. 20 years equals 2 days of vac time a month. We get paid 12 holidays a year plus we get off during election years for Gov and President. State gives you 4 hrs of paid voting time also.

>>15675391
it's not against the ToS and paypal has even written gift cards and digital goods into their purchase guarantee. yes they will leave sellers out to dry that's what I was talking about. you just disagreed with me and then reiterated exactly what I said.

>>15671674
any engineering bachelors + a few programming languages and you will be golden

>reddit spacing
easily the single most retarded concept this website has ever come up with
if you unironically care about "reddit spacing" you are a manchild

DON'T YOU 404 ON ME

I think MFA is much better than NRZ
Don't buy till recession though
Buy food stocks now

>>15675507
I plan to use those loopholes. I plan to put in 27 years (be 50) and walk out with actually getting 28 years of credit. Depending on if my previous employer was part of the retirement network (kinda in a gray area on this one) I could walk out at 50 but get a pension of someone who worked 30 years. My freedom starts at 50.

>>15676062
Wagies gonna wage

>>15675981
>tripfag
>defending reddit

i was a tripfag until i realized how retarded it is to make a name for yourself on a website where users are anonymous
of course an attention-whoring redditor has no appreciation for that concept

>>15675981
I like you so ill explain. Reddit spacing is annoying because it shows the person spends so much time on reddit they would setup their spacing that way without thinking.
If you spend time of 4chan and go to reddit and do it the same shit doesnt make sense.
So if you reddit space it’s 99.99999% chance they are a reddit faggot

>>15676062
If you're in the military you can retire after 20 with pension. I know a couple of guys who retired before they were 40, got a second job with their degrees they earned in the service, and are now collecting 2 incomes while also covering their kids college with the GI Bill

ATBPF is a long term play. It likely won't go up by any significant margin until phase 3 is in progress, which means you probably have about a year to accumulate. After FDA approval and their high-WOMAC stomach-safe NSAID has been on the market a bit, the value could easily jump from $0.28 a share to $28 within a year. Basically, if you buy it up, expect it to be a 5 year play, minimum. I gobbled up 25,000 shares.

>>15676105
For longer effortposts, separating into paragraphs makes it easier and more intuitive to read. It has always been this way, long before your reddit boogeyman burrowed its way into your head and started living there rent free

>>15675529
Maybe because im not some binary faggot? I was just reiterating its a bad idea to sell on ebay. I dont know specifics but i know the nature of cards isnt really covered easily. Cause people can just say you already used it or something idk. I just know people that fuck with it cant make margin unless they steal these or get them dirt cheap somehow. If you sell correctly you dont really get screwed selling if people try to pull shit, i have always got my money for disputes

>>15676144
That’s why books are written this way?
Never seen reddit formatted books.

>>15676105
The problem with that idea is that people on reddit aren't the only ones who separate their posts like that
If it was just people on reddit who did it, then I could understand, but many people on a wide variety of websites do it

>>15675391
>Eg all my sales on ebay i get fucked on eBay has always covered for me cause i do shit by the rules. People eell login codes and try to flip cards but its hard to do when a single loss can fuckup your whole operation for pennies
>>15676157
>If you sell correctly you dont really get screwed selling if people try to pull shit, i have always got my money for disputes
now you're just contradicting yourself. either there is risk or there isn't.

>>15676116
I'm a state worker. But yeah I got a few buds who joined the military. One's getting very close to the 20 mark. But the thing with me is that my only debt is my house. Plus the col is low as hell. Just me, my wife, and two cats. So when I walk out no need for me to get another job unless I get bored as hell. 50 and free with a fat wad in the bank. Kick back and watch my neighbors work to death cause hell they got 3 kids to support. (Yeah, they ain't never gonna be free)

>>15676235
Because you’re a fucking idiot.
Believe it or not selling different stuff in different ways has different amount of risks. I dont fuck with cards and dont have problems. People that fuck with cards do. Jesus christ

>>15676321
I don't give a shit dude whatever

>>15676233
People here don’t. And outsiders are unwelcome. Assimilation is fine though as long as your posts happen after lurking 2 years or longer.

>>15676321
if you don't sell cards on it why bother giving your opinion? I even cited the TOS earlier I know what I'm talking about. I said there were risks and people kept replying to me disagreeing/reiterating for no fucking reason. why the fuck is this even a thing just shut the fuck up

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>>15676350

wtf are you both talking about selling cards, I thought you were talking about magic the gathering cards and it turns out you're talling about romano pasta cards or coupons

>>15676350
It’s almost like I wanted to be nice and give you warning or something.

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>>15665802
I assume you are up over 500% since this time last year then. Otherwise you would have been better off investing in Link.

>>15675981
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>>15676144

Daily reminder that Reddit Spacing =/= normal paragraph spacing. Separate your paragraphs, not your sentences.

>>15676447
...and what if it went down like 99% of the shitcoins? What then?