/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>15567057
https://soundcloud.com/alabpodcast/episode-3-faketoshi-the-perfect-client
As someone with half a brain.. I'd say, this lying scamfuck getting fukcing rekt for 90 mins solid as above, or rekt for 30 fucking pages SOLID in his last judgement.. it all tells me, he's a lying fucking incompetent whos too fucking thick to keep his own scam on track. And, he rekts himself, entirely, no fucking corporate espionage needed here, none at all, nope Sir. This dick just JUSTs himself, then, keeps on JUSTin.

Still, I suppose creg was at least competent enough to get Calvin to pay him millions of dollars to pretend he's Satoshi and front Calvins bsv scam. Oh dear. Still you can pay all the shills in the world to try and keep that wreck on the rails, as per OP here - shit will always keep making its own damn way towards the nearest gutter. don't it now

>>15567057
Nice to see more people join or ranks. You should watch the recent discussion he had with Prof Steve Keen. It was supposed to be about economics only, but they touched a bit about bitcoin too. The whole thing was very interesting.

https://streamanity.com/video/CY2cELL58mu9Me

If you don't have bsv to watch it, give me an adress and I'll ping you a dollar

>>15567172
And here you ca read about Prof Keen's take on the discussion
https://www.patreon.com/posts/discussion-with-29879687

>I did find Craig to be intelligent and engaging. I've met some frauds in my life and suffered from not trusting my gut instincts about them. I didn't get that feeling about Craig, and I'd be happy to continue our discussion at some later time.

>>15567172
Thanks for the offer but I'd rather not watch it if I had to touch bsv

>>15567057
CSW is the smartest guy in a room of idiots.

>>15567172
>Nice to see more people join or ranks
oh, them ranks be swellin aright
just 'bout bustin, is them there ranks

>>15567057
when moon brainy? $$$ talks

>>15567200

So you would rather touch scammy erc-20 tokens on so caled Decenrtalized exchanges (which are centralized).
BUT you wont spend 0,20$ on a interview with a economist and Satoshi nakamoto himself ?

After that interview I started to follow Keen on Twitter and that is one based mother fucker.

>>15567343
I'm not holding anything but the real Bitcoin btc

>>15567172
need $0.21 i guess
1K6jhBag7E3cmYuM3TavHpfhwJWYxkXRvh

>>15567343
https://soundcloud.com/alabpodcast/episode-3-faketoshi-the-perfect-client
this is free. and funnier

>>15567373
sent:)

>>15567132
>scamfuck getting fukcing rekt
>>15567200
>>15567241
>>15567371
>>15567374

>>15567374
found it cringey af from the start and had to turn it off
they sound like they are from /r/buttcoin

>>15567172
where can I watch this for free? dont have any monies and wanna rip it on my phone to listen

>>15567057
>real academic experience in computer science
>print("Hello World!")

>>15567057
I am also a CS/physics/econ guy and yeah if you actually read just a few of CSW's papers/essays its very clear that all the onionbois on here screaming "muh faketoshi" have no clue wtf they're talking about.
I don't know 100% if he is Satoshi but he is the most likely of all the known candidates. BSV suicide stack is very much the play here.

>>15567212
He's probably one of the smartest guys alive right now. His invention of Bitcoin and related intellectual property is literally civilization changing technology.

>>15567371
BTC is not Bitcoin, read the white paper newfag. So many pajeets shitting up the board now buying into obvious pump and dump tokens like Link and BTC.

>>15567401
>He think he can drink the wisdom of humankind's greatest inventor for free
You better start dilating you disgusting discord tranny. That or you can beg me to send you 21 cents

>>15567411
>Literally teaches master's courses on super computing at CSU

https://www.youtube.com/user/ITMastersCSU/search?query=craig

>>15567172

Listening to it now. I really hope Craig does more of this, it's pretty interesting to hear the guy in his element like this. He obviously holds his own against Prof Keen, but it's a pretty measured discussion either way.

>>15567172
>literally paying to watch videos
have you missed the ENTIRE last three decades of the Internet?

>>15567469
>Not understanding the point of cutting out the ad jew middleman in order to usher in a new glorious era in content creation and consumption.
Never gonna make it

>>15567172
>If you don't have bsv to watch it
kek

>>15567241
show us those 3 minute canldes bro its dumping
>inb4 100% up in 2 months

>>15567371
btc is a ponzi, go figure

>>15567469
Its called 'preaching to the converted' anon. Like Twatch (like Twitter but -only- bsv faggots, and PayPerPost - uh huh). Them troublesome goyim ask too many questions otherwise

>>15567373
sent :)

>>15567464
>He obviously holds his own against Prof Keen
He is always steamy and hot headed, but most times it is not directed at the one he speak to. He just get very engaged and the way he use the word "you" can make it seem as he address the guy he's talking to. Mostly that is not the case, and it's probably his autism making it hard for him to use the right body language, intonation etc. Yes, he actually has autism

>>15567384
>>15567450
it's true

thanks anon

>>15567547
>sent :)
Newfag detected
sent :) = I actually sent
sent ;) = Haha, go dilate lmao

>>15567548
>Yes, he actually has autism
well, what with owing 5 billion in Bitcoin, unspecified stolen IP to be handing back, FUCK KNOWS how much in legal bills thus far, his rep as Cryptos Own creg The Clown (He JUST Can't Stop Bringing The Laughs! Honk!), it's all relative, innit. cregs problems, that is

>>15567560
>thanks anon
No problem. Spend them wisely

>>15567431

Yeah. It's insane. We're seeing history unfold for sure.

>>15567608
It's like living at the same time as Tesla and being part of a small group that understand his genius while the rest of the world take a shit on him at every opportunity. Truly amazing to experience this from the front row

>>15568034
This guy knows

>>15568034
I guess, if Tesla was a flaming faggot

>>15567057
I agree

>>15568034

There are plenty of geniuses in the world, but very few of them have the drive to create and compete for real.

>>15567057
Uhhh could u verify your "academia"?

>>15567057
>whole lot of empty talk with no factual explanations or proofs
Hi Craig, not feeling to guilty about scamming so many retards?

>>15567057
Hey guys, definitely not Craig Wright here, but Craig is a super boy genius voice of his generation

The real question is does the market give a fuck?

Over the past few months he's done nothing but damage to BSV and the price has tanked as result. The only way anyone will accept him is if he signs, otherwise everyone will just keep buying BTC and most importantly mining it. Meanwhile hashrate is falling off on BSV and only increasing on BTC. BTC will still have an advantage during the halving if BSV's price is still abysmal. Hell fees on BTC aren't even that high right now. I mean they're absolutely terrible (.50 cents or so), but this market is FULL RETARD and is only attempting to accumulate more dollars.

>>15567431
>need a replacement for credit currency so governments can't fuck us!
I got it guys, let's create a currency that literally tracks everything we ever bought! That couldn't be used to fuck us!

>>15568034
>Tesla
So you're saying we're all doing to die poor?

>>15569574
>very few of them have the drive to create
I wish I knew their secret. I mean that from the depth of my heart, as I have acomplished noting myself. I'm intelligent with a mensa tier IQ and very creative. However, it amounts to nothing as I'm a lazy slacker completely devoid of the drive to do anything other than shitposting. I would give a lot to know the secret. Please send help

>>15567057
>small world network
its basically the theory that every person on earth knows every other person on earth through no more than 7 individiuals.

if there is any reality to that then it would mean some of those individuals would have to know LOTS of people.

if this is replicated in networking then that would mean you would have several large hubs that have massive amounts of connections and would need the throughput to manage it to reduce hopcount and latency. would require a MUCH better fiber backbone in the world, MUCH better equipment to handle the traffic, and a MUCH better routing protocol than BGP to run it. i doubt you know anything about networking.
>but he'll have a bounty on his head once the actual criminals that use BTC get wind of it.
if this was even remotely true he wouldnt have claimed to be satoshi at all, could have literally been done anonymously

>>15569630
U cute greg

>>15567057
he's a criminally insane compulsive liar.
he spent the last decade reading everything about satoshi and learning everything about bitcoin with the sole goal of framing satoshi.

he's not satoshi.
he has no keys.
there's no tulip trust.

he's the size of a fraud that it's to most people incomprehensible. these people are rare. covering lies with bigger lies and making things up on the fly.

he lied to his friends, family, investors.
he's VERY good at this and he manages to convince people over and over again.

but he never delivers. cause he can't.
do not underestimate the amount of work craig has put into this. this is not your ordinary fraudster but a psychopath who went the full distance. this guy is a hannibal lector that has some deep deep wounds.

>>15569748
>There are going to be as many miners as there are people on planet earth
Idiot or deliberately deceptive? You decide.

>>15569748
Holy shit that post probably decreased my IQ by 25 points

>basically the theory that every person on earth knows every other person on earth through no more than 7 individiuals.
No, is called the "Six degrees of separation" theory
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_degrees_of_separation

>Small world network
>would require a MUCH better fiber backbone in the world, MUCH better equipment to handle the traffic, and a MUCH better routing protocol than BGP to run it
Bitcoin already is a small world network with a hop distance at 1.3. This is what makes Bitcoin decentralised. You can read about what a small world network is here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Small-world_network

Also pic related is a small world network, and yes that is a diagram of the current bitcoin network

>>15569845
>all miners join a centralized network
phew, for a minute there i thought a decentralized ledger had a single point of failure

>>15569746
Try meth.

>>15569748
>if this is replicated in networking then that would mean you would have several large hubs
But that's wrong, you fucking moron. Bitcoin requires no hubs because transactions go directly to miners, a miner finds the block and the block is distributed to all other miners. This isn't Lightning Network.

>>15567419
>he's an academic so that means he's right
He's contradicted everything Satoshi actually contributed. If he is Satoshi he's now undermining his own contribution and making something completely different that doesn't work.

>>15567057
Yeah cuz he's Satoj. This is getting boring. I don't even need the money, I wish he'd sign just to BTFO the haters on this shitty board.

>>15569793
Finally someone puts him on the spot. It's not that hard to be smart and also be a compulsive liar. He was there on the metzdowd and cypherpunk mailing list. He's been around in computer science. That doesn't mean he was the biggest part of the Bitcoin project. Where is Dave Kleiman? Dead. His credentials as a computer programmer exceed a multitude of people that are in the industry. He was so good, he had certifications that exceeded NSA standards. If Craig and Dave with the help of Hal Finney is the true origins of Bitcoin's birth, it was Dave and Hal that coded it. Craig may have been the law and financial guru. Cryptography and electronic money have been tangled together for many decades so Bitcoin wasn't just thought of at the last minute. Bitcoin has been in the works for a long time.

>>15569876
>Bitcoin already is a small world network with a hop distance at 1.3
if thats the case then 2-3 hour delays on such a small network isnt going to be improved on any time soon
>>15569980
i guess you cant read you fucking moron, they are talking about how bitcoins network needs to change to make it faster so it can actually be used.

christ its like bitcoin fanboys are as simple as the protocol itself. just keep sucking craigs dick. im sure you can attend the next conference hosted by his gambling tycoon pimp

Every Creg shill who isn't a pajeet is a neurotic homosexual who wants to see the neurotic homosexual Creg succeed on their behalf.

>>15570059
>they are talking about how bitcoins network needs to change to make it faster so it can actually be used
[Citation Required]

>>15567057
CSW did nothing wrong

>>15570004
he likely made all of it up. this "stinks and smells" massively that he bases his testimony on not one, but TWO, dead men. you can expect that everything relating to bitcoins history that CSW is trying to sell you is a lie. his involvement non existent.

you have a very dedicated aussie here that decided on some point around 2011-2014 to "play the character" of satoshi - for whatever reason.

he put in an incredible huge amount of work to frame satoshi and to model his life in that direction. that's why he comes across either as a genius or as a tech illiterate: he has too many gaps he can't fill. the lie has become too complex and too big for him to keep up with it. there's cracks and inconsistencies everywhere.

he forged a ton of documents,images and other material just to create and keep up an illusion.

he want's you to sell the illusion of a hardworking genius. whereby he's just a totally sloppy fraud without any scruples.
bsv under him has all the signs of a cult: people inside think they know something special. where in reality leadership just feeds them more and more made up shit and lies. everyone half a brain stays away from bsv.

craigs DEBT scares all the talent away. you just take a look the people in bsv: those are the biggest weirdos anywhere in crypto. it's a fucking freakshow of weak losers. everyone critical either gets the kick, stays away in the first place or runs for the hills after finding enough courage. the only people left in BSV are the extreme weak ones with HUGE inhibition that are in general scared of facing the truth.

>>15570187
2/10 for regurgitating reddit memes and the buttcoiner podcast
try harder next time

>>15570187
The inclusion of Paul Le Roux on the court documents opens up a new door to possibly who was THE main individual contributor to Bitcoin. I don't believe with all the reading and researching in the past two years, the documentaries, the bitcointalk.org posts, 4chan. You name it. Paul Le Roux is the one name that stands out because of his background, knowledge, and interest in cryptography and how Craig supposedly ratted on him. Craig's grandfather was a primary piece of the NSA. Craig is more a less a liar and a government shill/cover up.

Satoshi went away after Gavin went to the CIA. Makes you wonder why. Bitcoin SV is not Bitcoin. It's not open source like the original code was. nChain is in charge so how is that open to anyone to code? Blockstream is also not allowing open source input into BTC. An average C++ coder can't just contribute it sounds like.

What keeps it all going are the miners, the speculation that it will keep rising in value, and the belief that it is decentralized. It was programmed not to fail, but the polishing of Bitcoin's software took time to become secure. Now centralized exchanges hold the most coins and 94% or more of all Bitcoins are in a small amount of wallets. How is that different than central banks owning most of the world's precious metals and fiat?

>>15567057
Craig is a proven fraud, look up the court records.

OP is shilling a scam.

Every time I've heard Craig speak he goes off on a tangent about how he doesn't legally owe taxes on his bitcoin. I've never heard him talk about anything else and I've watched quite a few videos.

Anyone have links to some real content from him?

>>15567057
bullshit even a chimpanzee would see though his technobabble

>>15570342
>How is that different
its not. it failed. between greedy chink miners + greedy chink exchanges, wannabe scams like bsv to complete fucking scams like Tether, the idea sank under the sheer weight of The Usual Bullshit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j06y9M_DcEg

>>15567443
>BTC is not Bitcoin
the cope to end all copes

>>15568034
yeah tesla is a good example
brainlets worship him as a genius when actually he was full of shit (as far as physics is concerned) severely autistic with rippling ocd and a flaming attention fag.

the one thing that will break craigs neck is very simple:

he cannot deliver.

just a matter of time till people want his head rolling.

>>15570342
satoshi was an accomplished and prolific c++ coder.
not especially genius. but he did the work not just talked the talk.

>>15570542
there will always be an other date... you will see. his braindead fans will jump on any rumor.

>>15569793
an authentic simulation of satoshi would follow the orignal intention of the whitepaper and guard against any deviations. who really cares if he is satoshi so long as bsv is closer to true vision of global money than core. also dude is true crypto OG and is member of inner circle.

>>15570586
>an authentic simulation of satoshi
nobody sane would go that far. craig tries to assume satoshis mannerism but he fails again and again and satoshis technical aptitude is clearly beyond him.

>>15570647
also the idioty to assume that someone had a total idea for everything in the future 10+years onwards right from the start. this is just not how it works. there's plenty of flaws in the original bitcoin idea that anyone sane would want to overcome.

its retarded to take every word of a missing person for pure gold. the level of stupidity is on that of hardcore islamists or christians.

>>15569746
You need a vision. Intelligence and creativity is not enough, start envisioning the future you want to live in, and use your god given talents to achieve it. Think big.

>>15570647
what other choice is there? core has been co-opted. banks will begin their fractional reserve games on lighting. likely another weaponized inflation bug lurking a kill switch.

>>15570702
how blind you must be to not see btc was intentionally hobbled and in opposition to the whitepaper. some people should just stay in the basement. the game of thrones just isnt for you senpai.

>>15570702
and as has been pointed out many time before, e-money has a long lineage. it wasnt all satoj. he, and others, put the pieces together into a workable product.

>>15570759
if bsv is 'the real bitcoin' why would most people touch it with a pole?

if craig is satoshi why
- does he behave like an idiot
- never delivers on his promises
- does he get brutally raped in court

if bsv & craig is so cool why is this shitcoin constantly declining and not at 1200,- as this clown promised?

why are people FLEEING bsv?

>>15567200
I have friends like you... I offered them 1 Euro in ETH as a gift so that they could get acquainted with crypto and they said no. That was when ETH was at 50cents... Die poor you stupid fuck.

>>15570827
most, like yourself, are sheep. unable to see beyond the putrid ass of the sheep ahead of you. optics mean fuck all. grow up. usd is literal nexus of evil. it is still used. i did a 4X with bsv. you must be new, btc did the same many many times. go ahead and buy segwit. nobody will stop you but dont say you werent warned.

>>15570951
>>15570827
>this

>>15567469
If you dont pay for something you are the product. Why is it so hard to understand? Quality content cannot be dependent on advertisers and their interest, quality content is depended on the consumer. if 10cents is too high a price for you GTFO.

>>15570827
>if bsv is 'the real bitcoin' why would most people touch it with a pole?
Because most people are prone to follow consensus on social media and social media consensus is artificially shifted against craig by spin doctors

>behave like an idiot
Why wouldn't he? Why should he have to change his personality to please femboys on social media? He don't need you, you don't matter

>delivers on his promises
Like?

>get brutally raped in court
How does he having to pay Ira half his coins weaken the claim he is Satoshi?

>why is this shitcoin constantly declining
Is it? It's not too long ago I bought BSV at 40. Anyway, why is the upwards or downwards movement of the bsv price a factor in whether or not Craig is Satoshi?

>not at 1200,- as this clown promised
He never promised that

>why are people FLEEING bsv
Open your eyes, the opposite is happening. 0.7 bsv apps are released every single day

>>15568374
Turing was a flaming faggot... Imagine what he would have created if that didnt matter then.

>>15567057
>>>>>”””academic experience in computer science”””

That’s a hilarious way of saying you snuck into a class once. You’re not good at this LARP business.

>>15567057
>As someone with real academic experience

>academic
>experience

pick one

>>15570716
>what other choice is there?
fight
>core has been co-opted.
fight for bitcoin governance get organized
the answer is not pajeet scamcoins like sv
minority forks are an abomination and shouldn't exist as per satoshi
>banks will begin their fractional reserve games on lighting
that's not possible the way lightning works
>likely another weaponized inflation bug
just stop with the bullshit

>>15567057
WEAPON OF DURGASOFT

>>15571075
>just stop with the bullshit
no, you...

>>15567057
>he won't sign the Genesis block, he's a fraud

>The guy is doing you a favor lol. The moment he signs publically, not only does his net worth plummet by a couple billion dollars, but he'll have a bounty on his head once the actual criminals that use BTC get wind of it.

but he already tried to do a public signing
are you trying to pretend this never happened?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DCAC1j2HTY

wait, I forgot who I am talking to
WEAPON OF DURGASOFT
CORE OF JAVA

>>15567391
too bad for you, these guys are lawyers

>>15571179
https://www.yours.org/@perica

>>15571158
there is no inflation bug in lightning layer 1 rules wouldn't allow it anyhow.

>>15571179
before anything sign with satoshis rsa!

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>>15570586
Who Satoshi was matters a lot. They had an egnda to create something and make it work with a little bit of libertarian ideas implemented in it. There's a reason Satoshi put 'The Times 03/Jan/2009 Chancellor on brink of second bailout for banks' in the genesis block. Is there one why Bitcoin emerged after the recession in 08'? The person or group behind the Satoshi Nakamoto name had one goal: to create money a government had no control over. Coincidentally, Bitcoin was hijacked and it's more centralized now. While multiple countries are lenient in allowing the use of Bitcoin, others like the U.S. are trying to regulate the fuck out of it. The USD is still the global reserve currency for the time being. A lot of bad shit has happened because of it and a lot of how society got to where it is now was because of it, too.

>>15570961
Segwit is a feature of Bitcoin that was a part of a soft fork and to fix bugs that would otherwise deter second layer protocols and building possible smart contract features into Bitcoin. Transaction malleability was the reason for it. The software still works fine. Wallets can be built to support or not support segwit. BTC is Bitcoin.

>>15570716
This was bound to happen. Governments have way too much power. No matter how slick and stealthy someone can be, we live in a time where all the government entities work simultaneously to control the masses. Everything a genius invents goes from a private invention to (if it's really good) a public invention. The governments swoop in and take control. Controlling Bitcoin is the next step in (((their))) process of total control over the world.

>>15571188
oh wow lawyers, thanks i didn't know

>>15570981
>If you dont pay for something you are the product
So fucking true. I'm astonished that people still have Facebook accounts. Even worse are people who use things like instagram where the whole thing is setup around "influencers" who make 100k per post or w/e. Imagine using such a service where the primary goal is to be influenced by some shithead to buy a product.

>>15571203
?
broken website
looks like someone didn't attend their durgasoft classes

>>15570961
you don't even know what segwit is lmfao

>>15571267
>Segwit is a feature
>not a flaw

>>15571494
>durgasoft
Had to google this. How do you even know about this?

>>15571494
you're right, it's nothing

>>15571188
[Citation Required]

>>15567057
>Dr. Wright and David Kleiman entered into a 50/50 partnership to develop Bitcoin intellectual property and to mine bitcoin

>DONE AND ORDERED in Chambers this 27th day of August, 2019, at West Palm Beach in the Southern District of Florida.

>signed -BRUCE REINHART UNITED STATES MAGISTRATE JUDGE

>>15567172
It let me watch it for free, after i signed up. think i got a bonus or somethin,

>>15572791
HIGH IQ CONVERSATION

>>15571075
>t.(((blockstream)))

>>15572770
that is a default judgement, one giving the plaintiff EVERYTHING they asked for. creg is a lying forging scamming cunt, one not even fucking reliable enough to hold a fucking trial.. That is what that judgment means. This, my friends, is fucking rare. Not many bellends of cregs calibre still not yet imprisoned, no Sir. And the fact that you warped and pathetic cunts still attempt to present a ONE HUNDRED PERCENT DEFAULT LOSS as some kind of fucking 'win', its really the fucking last, the final fucking bullshit. shame yourselves, for you really are sewer monkeys

signed -BRUCE REINHART UNITED STATES MAGISTRATE JUDGE

>>15571075
>Lightning working
made me laugh