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SENT has just announced it's partnership with Spider VPN: a legit, UK BASED hardware manufacturer. On top of that, SENT is one of the few coins still available for americans on IDEX.

This is gonna moon to at least $0.05 eoy. We have proved SENT can deliver on its promises and that it's not a Pajeet scam all on the same day.

You are retarded if this isn't your biggest bag.

>> No.15456734

>>15456710
You are retarded if you hold a SENT bag* fixed it for you

>> No.15456744

>>15456710
>Spider VPN
Small fry partners with shitcoin and shills treat it as the second coming.
Ever heard of 'buy the rumor, sell the news'?

>> No.15456768

>>15456734
>>15456744
In two years, when you are sucking a fat guy's dick for 10 SENT, I want you to remember this moment and the cry yourselves to sleep.

>> No.15456770

>>15456710
buy SNTVT before KYC on IDEX goes in hard.

>> No.15456790

>>15456768
Did i Hurt your feelings retarded ransheesh. Go poo in the loo and wipe your ass with your retard SENT bags

>> No.15456913

Buy HOLO they don't have a hardware partnership, they produce the fucking hardware! buy now or stay poor

>> No.15457392

>>15456744
what are some hardware partners for a dVPN service that you would be excited about, fren?

>> No.15458057

>>15456710
$.05 EOY easy. True FOMO will hit when it gets listed on Binance.

>> No.15458141

>>15458057
or any exchange with actual users
even KuCoin would probably quadruple the daily volume

>> No.15458200

>>15456710
>i buy things from amazon, that means we're partnered
cringe

>> No.15458314
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>>15458200
kek your poor attempt at fud is what is really cringy here. An open source router is including SENT dVPN by default on the hardware. It is even available on Amazon.

>> No.15458362

>>15458314
not buying your virtual porta potti coin rajneesh

>> No.15458509

>>15458362
I think the team is Chinese actually, but I could care less what you some retard on biz thinks. Nobody is forcing you to buy anything.

>> No.15458553

I may buy some of this simply because it's on Amerifat idex and it has some volume.

>> No.15458563

>>15456710
Literally WHO?

>> No.15458575

>>15456770
idex us listed sent so i guess sent is one of the only projects on idex that is not deemed a security

>> No.15458667

>>15458575
A true utility token being cleared for US markets. None of the larger US exchanges will list security tokens, so a precedence needs to be set first before listing SENT.

>> No.15458712

>>15458667
yeah you are right this surely will help SENT in the listing process on bigger exchanges

>> No.15459242

>>15458509
They have Chinese as second language on their site so it checks out

>> No.15459612

>>15459242
I am under the same impression. It makes sense. Since the start, it was always English and Chinese. It explains why they are anon otherwise they would have their organs harvested and never heard from again.

>> No.15459666

Weird how the shills are suddenly speculating about the ethnicity of the SENT team and saying they're Chinese now that I've discovered and mentioned that at least two of the biggest shills that post here are Russian

But why? Is being Chinese somehow better than being Russian?

>> No.15459678

>>15459666
hello satan

https://youtu.be/lggnrj0sYhw
i have no idea what nationality sent shills are but i know what nationality sent fudders are

>> No.15459713

>>15459678
Well that's okay because I do. They're Russian. It wasn't very hard find out either!

>> No.15459719

>>15459713
post proof they are russian, did you see them writing in russian or just see they have bad grammar ?

>> No.15460392

>>15459719
There is a moderator who leads the Russian telegram chat. He is not a dev, just a community member.

>> No.15460869

SENT will be 250 sats by EOY

>> No.15461638

>>15460392
Kek one Russian in the telegram chat... team must be Russian by association!

>> No.15462434

Biz cares more about the ethnicity of a developer over any other fundamentals....

>> No.15462692

>>15462434
First it was pajeets, now they are Russian. Make up your mind biz.

>> No.15463174

>>15461638
Lol, some fudders are complete retards

>> No.15463665

>>15462434
sergey is pro migrants linkies have been cucked again

>> No.15464223

>>15456710
Tasty 5m low cap I will get a bag when I get my monthly wagecuck money

>> No.15464406

Got that sweet SENT im ready for main net
0.1 :-$ eoy

>> No.15464421

>>15464406
HEHEHE

>> No.15464446

>>15456744
You’ve just contradicted yourself. No one left to sell dumbass, that’s why it didn’t dump, only way from here is up. Fucking moon time when Sentinel hit a top 5 exchange this month.

>> No.15464466

>>15464223
>TaSty 5M lOw cAP I WilL gEt a BAg wHen i gET mY mONthly WAgecUck MoneY

>> No.15464489

>>15456770
Ticker is SENT anon. Please wash your mouth out.

>> No.15464510

>>15460869
More anon. ATH is inevitable.

>> No.15464514

>>15459678
I’ve heard they have an office in Israel and that there are some very powerful people behind the project.

>> No.15464552
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>>15464514
The project is Russian. James McDowell their Head of Strategy has a Russian girlfriend who is also part of the project, they have been photographed together many times (see picture attached to this post). They also share resources and C-Suite with Waves project. No one is supposed to know this but very interesting setup. I think SENT will do a 100x.

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Sentinel MUST start drop-shipping SpiderVPN routers to Hong Kong! Hong Kong is falling. Sentinel is Hong Kong’s only hope!

>> No.15464584

>>15464552
That's the same girl that has been photographed with vitalik

>> No.15464600

>>15464584
She has been photographed with jae kwon too while wearing a sent shirt

>> No.15464880

>>15464584
yeah she looked familiar ive seen her posted a couple of times already on /biz

>> No.15465278

>>15456710
IOS release next, at this rate of releases it will be back to ath by the end of the year

>> No.15465346

>>15456710
Shit boys, mooning to 5¢? Think 1$ EOY, were fucking hitting MAINNET BOYS!
>T.100k stack.

>> No.15465609

>>15465346
when the fuck is mainnet
why can't i get an answer on this

>> No.15465624
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>>15465609
main net will be launched before the end of the year

>> No.15465689

>>15465609
Q4 2019

>> No.15465721 [DELETED] 

>>15465689
this is a lie

>> No.15465762

>>15465721
Q3?

>> No.15465781 [DELETED] 

>>15465762
sorry got confused you are right

>> No.15465815

>>15465689
yeah q4 2019

>> No.15465817

>>15465624
ok, but where are we right now on that roadmap? there's no dates

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>>15465817
Q4 is all we have
that's far more specific than most projects get with mainnet release dates. LINK's wasn't wholly confirmed until like three days beforehand iirc

>> No.15465866

>>15465847
that's fine, i'm just asking, what's the last thing on that map that has happened?

>> No.15465876

>>15465817
the roadmap is not a exact timeline for example the tendermint testnet has been released before the IOS app.

the important thing is that main net will come before the end of the year, and leading to it there should be other minor releases.
the only way to stay updated is to follow the announcement channel on the official tg

>> No.15465890

>>15465866
testnet for the tendermint blockchain has launched last month

https://medium.com/sentinel/sentinel-dvpn-spidervpn-router-partnership-and-july-node-incentivization-update-7262239be84a

here is the latest update on the state of the project, its from yesterday

>> No.15465891

>>15457392
Cisco IOS support or gtfo

>> No.15465925

Sentinel-Turing-1 — a status update

Sentinel has successfully completed over 560K (or over half a million) blocks with 36 validators participating in the network.

There was a significant amount of time and energy spent by several validators in assisting the team in the creation of security-related documentation provided below. Although these validators have asked not to be quoted, it is important to make sure the word gets and efforts from the community are acknowledged.

https://explorer.sentinel.co/

>> No.15465929

>>15465925
Poo in loo

>> No.15465933

Explorer, dVPN Interfaces (OpenVPN & WireGuard) and more!

Development on Sentinel-Turing-2 is underway and also the launch of Sentinel’s custom block-explorer Compass is approaching (will allow for integration with other Cosmos based projects as well). The WireGuard routing protocol interfaces will be launched in Turing-2 as apart of the Tendermint based desktop application.

‘Enterprise Grade’ Private-nets will be launched soon along with corresponding documentation and information, marking the beginning of Sentinel’s journey into enterprise solutions.

this should be the next release

>> No.15466277

>>15465929
>https://youtu.be/lggnrj0sYhw
poo in the loo fudder

>> No.15466291

>>15458314
being able to buy it on amazon is bullish. imagine the bugman/pajeet markets who'll all want one

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>>15456710
>tfw you read the OP in that cat's voice

>> No.15466564

>>15466349
"Anon what are those weird noises coming from your room"

"It's the cat, mom"

"We don't have a cat Anon"

>That's how Anon mom decided to send Anon the the psychiatrist

>> No.15466771

>>15466564
lol

>> No.15466810

>>15456710
Wow the world famous spider vpn you guys have really hit the big time here who has not heard of spider vpn such a fucking household name wowee what a prestigious brand definitely not a LITERALLY FUCKING WHO

>> No.15466891

>>15466810
this project is based, go away stinky FUDer

>> No.15466919

>>15466891
It's fucking shit

>> No.15466925
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>>15466810
a brnad who will develop a router suited for decentralized infrastructure, what matters is product not shiny names, sentinel is a young project with time bigger partnerships will come, also it was said from the beginning that the hardware partnership was with a medium sized vpn /router provider

>> No.15466988

Small fry partners with shitcoin and shills treat it as if it were the second coming.

This is what a basic PnD looks like anons. The team is in hiding waiting for this scam to get more than 3k volume. They are almost certainly losing money tho because they are so obvious. If you buy more than $20 of this YOU WILL NEVER GET YOUR MONEY OUT.

This is how bagholders are made.

>> No.15467106

>>15466925
Shut up idiot

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>>15466925
>medium sized

>> No.15467583

>>15466988
you say that as there is a 100 eth buy wall close to market price.

this a major partnership for a 5m mcap project like sentinel, spidervpn will launch their nodes on sentinel privatenets and will develop a router perfect for the dvpn nodes that will allow any household to sell their bandwidth.

this partnership has actual utility , while a business is being built together.
there is no better partnership for sentinel then spidervpn at the moment,
when the privatenet will get implemented this will start producing revenue for sentinel, thats how smart startup get bigger, most partnership in crypto don't produce actual revenue

maybe you prefer fake partnership announcements like omise go did with mcdonald.

>> No.15467592

>>15467477
this made me laugh, lol

>> No.15468017

>>15467583
Sellers are slowly being bought out, right now there is almost no sell order till 2080 vits

>> No.15468462

just added another bag at 1660, did i do good /biz/

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>>15468462
by looking at that huge ass wall, and the complete lack of sell side i think yes

>> No.15468497

>>15468482
(complete lack of sell side till 2080)

>> No.15468517

>>15468482
>last price is my buy
i'm famous /biz/

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>>15468517
You were the first trade in 5 hours so you didn't exactly have much competition. But hey, congrats

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>>15468517

>> No.15468642

>>15468482
Thin books are tasty

>> No.15468653

>>15468482
Looks like sent has very strong holder, good stuff

>> No.15468662

>>15468642
>>15468653
the hardware announcement helped create a floor, even if volume is low right now, it will pick up again.
it was very low even before the first pump and the second pump

>> No.15468679

>>15468662
Sent will slowly build higher floor after higher floor, and then once it gets on a big exchange it will pop

>> No.15468785

Just buy BRAP

>> No.15468816

>>15468785
Hmm... he has a point. BRAP has solid foundamentals and will completely revolutionize the brapping industry.

>> No.15469210

>>15468679
idex already cleared the fact that sent is not a security and can easily get listed on any exchange

>> No.15469338

>>15454979

>> No.15469785

>>15468482
Tasty orderbook
>>15469338
This was a good thread apart from the lying obsessed fudder, it has however all the info regarding the hardware announcement

>> No.15469899

>>15468462
I'll be amazed if you're ever able to sell that for more than what you paid. Good luck!

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Open the floodgates! Look at these noobs selling right before SENT goes to da moon! ;)

>> No.15470172

>>15469210
I was surprised when idex announced sent would be listed on their us exchange, but thinking about it, its easy to understand sent has a working product and users which is more then 99% crypto project can say

>> No.15471317

>>15470172
Having a working product BEFORE raising an ICO is key as a utility token. Can’t really be classified as a utility token unless there is a working product. SENT is rare in that regard. How many other projects can say the same?

>> No.15471321

>>15470172
it's basically the definition of a utility token
we're gonna be alright

>> No.15471454

Fuck it. What's the SENT suicide stack and what's the making it stack?

>> No.15472254

>>15471454
suicide stack - 100K
making it - 500K-1MM?

>> No.15472277

>>15471317
0xBitcoin did this. Still gets shoved to the side like a fat bitch at a club party. If you don't have a working product before your ICO, then you should launch a token until you do. Fuck scams.

>> No.15472640
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This is my largest bag and i'm financially ruined.

>> No.15473074

Can I shitpost on 4chan using a Sentinel VPN? Or are they all blocked?

>> No.15473822

>>15473074
Some nodes work, other don't

>> No.15474267

>>15472640
Never invest with a short term mindset, hold long term at least till main net and you will be fine.
Look at what btc did in 2014 went 1200$ then dumped 90% and after all weak hands were shaken out it went to 20k, I'm not saying sent will need years to recover, just extend your investing mindset from days to months

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>>15468462
dude lmao

weird how the "marketing" has changed from "100 SATS SOON, MOON TOMORROW", to "uhh... it's a long term investment, bro"

Just keep hodling brothers ;)

>> No.15474766

>>15473822
Fair enough. Are there plans for a fiat ramp? I love the idea, just don't want to go through a million hoops or give my personal details to some dodgy crypto exchange to buy tokens.

>> No.15474795

>>15471321
Sentinel will have utility features but it's main purpose will be staking when main net for the tendermint dpos chain is delivered
>>15474766
"Currently the Sentinel dVPN is running on both an Ethereum and a Tendermint Testnet, and will transition to a monetized mainnet that will also include fiat payment gateways."

this is was shared in the latest development and partnership update

https://medium com/sentinel/sentinel-dvpn-spidervpn-router-partnership-and-july-node-incentivization-update-7262239be84a

>> No.15474833

>>15472277
checked and orangepilled

>> No.15474916

WHY ARE PEOPLE SELLING WHAT THE FUCK /BIZ/ AHHHHHHHHHHH

>> No.15474936

>>15474916
Never follow the herd, counter trade small traders

>> No.15475035

>>15474936
>counter trade small traders
explain

>> No.15475131

>>15475035
If you see lots of small sell orders, and few big in the opposite direction on a small cap, then follow the big ones.

Weak hands and retail traders with gambling mindset that jump from shitcoin to shitcoin always get just'd

>> No.15475332

>>15475131
thanks, that makes sense. i've never bought into such an early low cap coin before, so i'm still figuring out how they behave

>> No.15475363

>>15475332
>how they behave
extremely erratically, a single large purchase or sell order can temporarily pump or dump it. So don't get too excited or worried about price fluctuations.

>> No.15475571

>>15475363
Yeah lowcap price should be watched from month to month

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ArKkuvus-Q

sentinel is showing a preview of their IOS app in less then 60 min in their live-stream

>> No.15475872

someone just bought up all the coins in the 1500s and then all the orders in the 1600s evaporated. what did they mean by this /biz/

>> No.15475916

>>15475872
All the people that sold today, sold just before the IOS app announcement, so this confirms small traders should be countertraded like we discussed above

>> No.15475995

the livestream of the IOS app just started

>> No.15476346

One single 12 ethnic buy order would send sent from 1500 vitus to 2000 vits

>> No.15476569

>>15476346
Switch off autocorrect my dude

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>>15476346

>> No.15477296

It's incredible to me that no big sent holder has sold into that wall

>> No.15477538

WHERE IS THE IOS REVEAL BUMP /BIZ/

>> No.15477653

>>15477296
SENT seems to have very strong holders, these whales know something that we dont

>> No.15478082

>>15477296
dude no big holder has moved tokens during this whole move

>> No.15478599

>>15478082
Its cause sent had a full market cycle already, all weak hands were shaken out

>> No.15478619
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Volume is still embarrassingly low. Any real money in will be hard to get out if this price action continues at this amount of volume.

The real fear, which we see happen on every down cycle of this recurring PnD, is that volume dies off and you're at risk of being stuck for another 2 years with not even being able to sell.

These are not higher lows.

That opportunity cost is high because you will, in the meantime, miss out on plenty of solid tokens & coins continuing their upwards trajectory.

This is nothing but a copy of a tutorial and has no functional reason to exist.

And trading it? Calling SENT a "low" volume shitcoin is an understatement.

It is completely dead, a few thousand in bot trades a day.

Nothing has changed fundamentally about the project as far as I can tell. The only thing that changed is that in the last few months a shill army came to /biz/, Reddit, and a number of other crypto forums and started scamming people into buying this garbage. It was OBVIOUSLY coordinated, you'd have to be a total brainlet to not understand that.

Remember, they are pumping and dumping around ICO price. Dont fool yourself.

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>>15478619

>Remember, they are pumping and dumping around ICO price. Dont fool yourself.

sentinel never went below ico price you are spreading fake news, initial raise was 1.89m$ during december 2017, it got listed on coinmarketcap only months later so part of the historic price action is missing but you can see it on yobit sent chart.

>These are not higher lows.

just look at the chart and you can see the higher low.

>The real fear, which we see happen on every down cycle of this recurring PnD, is that volume dies off and you're at risk of being stuck for another 2 years with not even being able to sell.That opportunity cost is high because you will, in the meantime, miss out on plenty of solid tokens & coins continuing their upwards trajectory.

anybody can sell on the big ass wall that has been posted multiple times above, there is plenty of liquidity.

>This is nothing but a copy of a tutorial and has no functional reason to exist.

sentinel has a working product with more then 10k daily users anybody that doubts this can check the stats https://stats.sentinel.co/
and download and try the dapp from https://sentinel.co/ or google playstore

>Nothing has changed fundamentally about the project as far as I can tell.

sentinel in the last month had :
1- the release of its own dpos blockchain built on tendermint

2- partnership announcement with spidervpn

3-substantial development to the ios app

and more will come soon

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also just check this image to see the level of obsession this fucker reached, he post the same copypasta which has been debunked many times, he probably has posted it many times in every sent thread

>> No.15479118 [DELETED] 

>>15479075
>everybody says sentinel is a scam, but never mentions why other the stale copypastas.

>is the product with 10k daily users a scam?
Yes, all faked traffic on insecure VPN software that they copy/pasted from a free Open Source project: https://github.com/OpenVPN

>is the constant code delivery a scam?
Irrelevant and no proof. Do you mean the tutorial they copied from here: (https://github.com/cosmos/sdk-application-tutorial)) that they call a "blockchain"?

>is the tendermint testnet a scam?
In that it is a copy of a tutorial and has no functional reason to exist. Yes.

>is the hardware partnership a scam?
Yes, what impact does this have? Where is the proof. If they are passing a generic VPN client off as a "partnership" then they should receive a cease and desist letter, but THIS IS WHY THE DEVS ARE ANONYMOUS.

>is the endrsement from tendermint a scam?
Yes. The fact that someone is pumping their product is all tendermint/cosmos cares about. They will exile SENT as soon as it is a a publicly known scam and we are almost there.

>Is the 500k atoms delegated to sentinel team from cosmos team a scam ?
Not a scam, just the normal provision for a sub project leeching off the success of CosmosSDK. They will drop them as soon as they realize there is no product, just a copy/paste, and a lot of biz shilling.

It's over boys. Nice try but you failed.

>> No.15479154

>>15479118
wow you didn't even replied to the actual shit i wrote you just copypasted this shit from another thread, what a looser

>> No.15479414

>>15479118
>Yes, all faked traffic on insecure VPN

openvpn is the industry standard its perfectly secure and used by 90% of the VPNs on market

>software that they copy/pasted from a free Open Source project

all vpn projects build on top of openvpn why you fail to mention the custom code built on top ?
like the proof of bandwidth protocol or the logic to allow p2p validation and payments directly from users to nodes.

>Irrelevant and no proof. Do you mean the tutorial they copied from here: (https://github.com/cosmos/sdk-application-tutorial)) that they call a "blockchain"?

this is a straight up lie, you are willingly spreading fake info to fit your agenda, and you completely misunderstand the point of tendermint based chains, i guess you can call particl or decred a btc copypaste too.
what matters is the working product built on top of the tendermint chain.

>In that it is a copy of a tutorial and has no functional reason to exist. Yes.

the whole dvpn logic is built on top of the tendermint chain so again you are spreading lies, without it there would also not be any way to upgrade the protocol through governance in a decentralized way

>Yes, what impact does this have? Where is the proof. If they are passing a generic VPN client off as a "partnership" then they should receive a cease and desist letter, but THIS IS WHY THE DEVS ARE ANONYMOUS.

https://spidervpn.org/post/road-map
the partnership is shared by both partys as you can see its posted on spidervpn site

>Yes. The fact that someone is pumping their product is all tendermint/cosmos cares about. They will exile SENT as soon as it is a a publicly known scam and we are almost there.

tendermint doesn't need pumping it got investment money from coinbase and some of the biggest projects in crypto are building on it like tezos and LIBRA also tendermint issues no token so it has no incentive to use advertizement campaigns cause there is no direct monetary gain.

>> No.15479830

today volume on idex is double yestrday volume, looks like a big move is about to take place

>> No.15480012

>>15479830
yes the volume has been moving up. many announcements and bullish IDEX decision are culminating

>> No.15480050

Pajeets dont give up, do they? Stop shilling this shitcoin guyz

>> No.15480474

>>15480012
The amount of announcements is crazy, never seen a coin release so much bullish shit in so little time

>> No.15480488
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>tfw finally made it to a 500k sent bag with 4 nodes

>> No.15480511
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>>15480474
Never seen a coin release so much bullshit in so little time

>> No.15480605

>>15480474
>So much bullish shit
>Price continues to plummet

>> No.15480624

The decreasing price is actually bullish too, it shows that WHALES ARE ACCUMULATING SIRS. Or whatever. Also people saying it's a scam is bullish too because that proves just how awesome it actually is. Whenever someone says something is a scam, secretly they're lying because they know it's so good and legitimate and actually they're evil and just want to destroy good things.

Literally everything no matter how bad is bullish for the Sentinel token!

>> No.15480633

>>15480624
SENT are the new BTC! We are to the MOON!!!

>> No.15480660

>>15456710
>faggot cat pic
check
>SENT shill
check
>still a scam
doublecheck

>> No.15480714

>>15480511
i'm done raging against the ironic whale FUD, it's just impressive at this point

>> No.15480951

>>15480660
DON'T YOU DARE CALL THE CAT A FAGGOT OR THERE WILL BE SERIOUS CONSEQUENCES

>> No.15480988

>>15456710
why would i want to pay for any vpn service in anything else than bitcoin? makes no sense to have a gazillion utility tokens.

>> No.15481011 [DELETED] 

>>15480988
>is the product with 10k daily users a scam?
Yes, all faked traffic on insecure VPN software that they copy/pasted from a free Open Source project: https://github.com/OpenVPN

>is the constant code delivery a scam?
Irrelevant and no proof. Do you mean the tutorial they copied from here: (https://github.com/cosmos/sdk-application-tutorial)) that they call a "blockchain"?

>is the tendermint testnet a scam?
In that it is a copy of a tutorial and has no functional reason to exist. Yes.

>is the hardware partnership a scam?
Yes, what impact does this have? Where is the proof. If they are passing a generic VPN client off as a "partnership" then they should receive a cease and desist letter, but THIS IS WHY THE DEVS ARE ANONYMOUS.

>is the endrsement from tendermint a scam?
Yes. The fact that someone is pumping their product is all tendermint/cosmos cares about. They will exile SENT as soon as it is a a publicly known scam and we are almost there.

>Is the 500k atoms delegated to sentinel team from cosmos team a scam ?
Not a scam, just the normal provision for a sub project leeching off the success of CosmosSDK. They will drop them as soon as they realize there is no product, just a copy/paste, and a lot of biz shilling.

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>>15480988
SENT doesn't force any utility token upon people, sentinel thanks to being built on tendermint it will allow to pay in ANY crypto (included BTC XMR ETH etc...) thanks to the interblockchain communication protocol:

>> No.15481021

>>15481011
so no answer to my question?

>> No.15481027

>>15481011
this fucker has reposted the same copypasta already here >>15479118 and it was answered here >>15479414

>> No.15481034

>>15481021
answer is here >>15481013

>> No.15481052

>>15481013
so once again we have a scam utility token with no utility. i will just wait for someone to do all this without the shitcoin nonsense. same for chainlink same for eth. we don't actually need craptokens to do anything.

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>>15481052
SENT token is a staking token used to secure the chain, without it the whole project wouldn't work, part of the dvpn logic is embedded in the chain (to prevent misbehavior of the service nodes).
the token is also used for protocol upgrade and governance.

think of sentinel chain as a bitcoin sidechain that will offer multiple services to bitcoin holders:
dvpn
dchat
zk-snark mixer
relay net

every dvpn node will be able to accept ANY crypto they want , sentinel will let the market decide whats best, i actually tought about it and i see no way sentinel would work without a token, just look at bisq for example they had to create a token too otherwise the only true dex wouldn't be sustainable long term

>> No.15481126

>>15481110
>without it the whole project wouldn't work
of course it will stake with bitcoin smart contracts easy enough.

>> No.15481128

>>15481052
I don't see what's the problem the token is not forced upon anyone, when on main net you will be able to interact with sentinel services without ever touching the SENT token

>> No.15481148

>>15481126
bitcoin layer 1 doesn't allow the specific scripts needed, if you are talking about a sidechain then you might as well use sentinel (which will be a btc sidechain after the bridge is implemented)

>> No.15481149

>>15481128
this is my problem exactly, if you have a token you don't need but let people buy from you for real money you are scamming them. you are a fucking pajeet scammer. if the network do needs your shittoken it's bad design and should be superseded asap.
so anything involving a new token is by default bullshit unless for some reason it's the entire point like say dai.

>> No.15481160

>>15481148
you need 2 way deterministic binding to talk about sidechains. btc doesn't support it yet. probably won't for a good while.

>> No.15481183

>>15481149
The token is needed to secure the chain, and to upgrade the protocol, you can't bootstrap a post sidechain with Bitcoin only cause it would be in constant threat of a bigger whale depositing funds and stealing all the rest of the staked btc

>> No.15481193

>>15481160
you can have reasonably secure 2 way pegs with the federated approach blockstream liquid uses, so in the case of sent there will be a multisig controlled by all the validators that needs cooperation to unlock the funds on btc chain, when a better approach will be possible it will be updated, but for now this is the only way

>> No.15481200

>>15481160
the difference is that with blockstream validators are choose on POA basis with sentinel chain validators are choose by stake, if they cheat they loose stake

>> No.15481221

>>15481183
yeah thats right imagine this you bootstrap a chain with 1000 bts from 10 different validators, now a bigger whale comes deposits 6000 btcs and steals the other 1000 cause it has the majority of the voting power and for a dvpn the POS way used by blockstream wouldn't work cause dvpn is one of the few dapps that needs censorship resistance the most

>> No.15481222

>>15481193
>you can have reasonably secure 2 way pegs with the federated approach blockstream liquid uses
we will see
>>15481200
anything can be staked that supports rudimentary smart contracts

>> No.15481258

>>15481193
>you can have reasonably secure 2 way pegs with the federated approach blockstream liquid uses,
The re-entrant attacks inherent in this type of braindead design is enough to make SENT a non-starter for any developer or privacy advocate.

>so in the case of sent there will be a multisig controlled by all the validators that needs cooperation to unlock the funds
There are no free delegates in a federated approach as you mentioned. This is the entire point of BFT.

This project will never survive in the wild.

The network can be completely split for less than $100 US.

This is exactly what happened with Verge/XVG

Unless they find a working consensus mechanism mainnet will never launch and SENT is going to ZERO!

>> No.15481261

>>15481222
the key element that is need is the part that allows to prove that the right amount of bandwidth was consumed during the dvpn use, that needs specific infrastructure that was only possible by putting it as part of the validators nodes.
(or maybe i didn't understand your point)

>> No.15481268

>>15481261
the validator nodes are basically oracles any coin that supports rudimentary smart contracts (not even turing complete just if-else and timelocks) can be used for staking.

>> No.15481274

>>15481268
and yes if you don't want to bloat btc blockchain you can make a sidechain but the only real reason to have a separate token with separate price discovery is to scam people.

>> No.15481315

>>15481268
sentinel was first deployed on ethereum chain, but cause of the crazy limitations sentinel team decided to switch away, the validtor node needs to be able to update the state more then what infura nodes allowed (otherwise you would have force all users to run an ethereum node):
yeah most blockchain can support staking, but staking has multiple purposes other then just the oracle part, governance upgrade is one another one for example, no other chain support the necessary speed for the dvpn to work, and no other chain is currency agnostic.
a token for upgrading the protcol is 100% needed, otherwise you would have a dispotic team deciding everything.
>>15481274
how can you make a sidechain without a seprate token ?
either you go POA which in the dvpn case is not possible cause obvios security problems or you bootstrap using another coin which would create big security and governance problems and possible allow a majority staker to fully steal the coins

>> No.15481347

>>15481258
you solve the re entrant problem by having a middle layer peg zone that will issue the peg only after a high number of confirmation, for example blockstream liquid uses around 100 or more confirmation to issue LBTC

>>15481258
all validators need to stake voting is not free, the IBC protocol is being developed by cosmos team so you can check their specs paper it should clear all your doubts :

https://github.com/cosmos/ics/tree/master/spec

>> No.15481353

>>15481347
https://github.com/cosmos/ics here is the full repo

>> No.15481391

>>15481347
>you solve the re entrant problem by having a middle layer peg zone that will issue the peg only after a high number of confirmation, for example blockstream liquid uses around 100 or more confirmation to issue LBTC
False. This still leaves SENT open to crippling first layer ECDSA curve overrun spoofing. This design can hardly be called a blockchain. It's more of a DAG database like mongodb or something, yet lacking the checksum parity checks that would keep the chain secure. This is a critically flawed design and the SENT team should rethink it or they will end up with a fractured chain and there will be a double spend frenzy until it is reorganized!

>> No.15481488

>>15481391
you just mashed a bunch of buzzwords together here, i actually took you seriously on the first comment.

ecdsa are signatures they can't be spoofed and it doesn't even mean anything.
you have no understanding of what a dag is or whats the difference between a dag and a blockchain.
also the tendermint consensus is already up and running on cosmos chain which has been running flawlessly for months, sentinel team is not the architect behind tendermint so i guess you should message tendermint and report to them your buzzword bullshit

>> No.15481516

>>15481488
also the tendermint consensus is already up and running on cosmos chain which has been running flawlessly for months, sentinel team is not the architect behind tendermint so i guess you should message tendermint and report to them your buzzword bullshit

Oh I see you don't understand the difference between federation and pure DBFT.

Maybe you should find a new hobby.

Please don't report to them my buzzords Raj.

Then they will see that you are spreading false technical information and you might lose your shill contract.

>> No.15481520

>>15481391
Mashing a bunch of buzzwords together here I googled what he said and nothing popped up not even on Sci hub (search engine for academic papers) so this is only a retard trying to derail a good convo

>> No.15481561

>>15478619
>>15479118
>>15480511
>>15481516
the guy who reposts the same copypasta in every thread pretends now wants to be taken seriously

>> No.15481586

>>15481516
LOL other buzzwords /biztard pretends to know shit by putting together random words he heard from other shilled projects

>> No.15481593

>>15481520
>Thinks he can understand advanced computer science topics from googling a few words.

I have already described the design flaws to the team on telegram and while it hasn't been announced yet, they are planning to delay mainnet release to attempt to fix the issues I pointed out.

Cap this.

They will be announcing the mainnet delay a few weeks before the scheduled release date because they don't want to kill the small amount of momentum from the pump campaigns.

I think they are just trying to pump it enough to exit scam before even trying to fix these technical
issues. They said they don't have the technical expertise in house to rebuild the broken consensus and they have no money to hire either since there is only about $2000 daily volume.

>> No.15481611

>>15481593
Nigger fuck off with your lies you are literally a scammer , willingly lying no such conversation took place and even taking you seriously is retarded.

>> No.15481627

>>15481593
ok now you are just being ridiculous

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>>15481611
>Can't see the obvious attack vectors in this spaghetti codebase unironically written by hired jeets.

>Points out his own ignorance for everyone to see on a Hungarian sock knitting forum.

The actual state.

>> No.15481694

>>15481654
>Willingly lies and spreads fake info

>Repost copypastas in every sent threads

>Literally passes all his time fudding

>His skin wasn't touched by sunlight in weeks

>His level of obsession is clear indication of a deep mental illness

>Pretends to understand shit about blockchains

>> No.15481707

>>15481654
Congrats you think you broke Tendermint now go short cosmos and Ren I wanna see big red candles on both charts when I wake up tomorrow

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>>15481654
go between your kind at devcon after you have been straponed by vlad and vitalik you can tell them your secrets about dbft

>> No.15481769

>>15481694
Dont forget the virgin part, he clearly is not able to have any social interaction and was never touched by a woman,
I bet he is a british guy and he cant even fap anymore, surrounded by pajeets and thats why he is obsessed

>> No.15481783

>>15481769
>never touched by a woman
False.. I can fuck your mom for 5 of these shitcoins. For six I can fist her too.

>> No.15481932

>>15481611
>you are literally a scammer

Watch out guys he's trying to scam you by convincing you to not buy something. One of the most insidious scams I've ever seen.

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>>15481694
Nigger I can tell by how you post that you're one of like 2 or 3 shills that post in every single one of these threads. You're really one to be calling someone else obsessed and saying they have no life and shit lmao all you do is shill SENT all day. Is spending all day calling out a scam really that much worse than actually trying to scam people all day?

>herp derp I'm driven by ideology sent vpn will change da world it will give people FREEDUMB!!

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>>15481769
>Be me
>Unironically and unemotionally pasting in copypasta just to fuck with these shitcoin shills between sex bouts with azn qt.
>Shills lose their minds
>crush mass tendies and wait for next round

COPE you russian shitcoin shilling faggots.