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>>15463511
First for gdx gang

schizo solar fag, nothing ever happens

https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2019/09/01/ahead-of-iphone-11-new-apple-hack-revelation-will-shock-1-billion-users/#460823144feb

I hope you've shorted AAPL.

>>15464130
Doesn’t matter, won’t stop people from buying the new iPhone.

>>15464205
Yup, it's pretty obvious that regular people cares for a week then just moves on doing the exact same thing because everyone is too lazy to change. Which is great for people like us to be honest.
BUT if you're an active trader then you could probably get a short trade in short term

Early this morning someone in the last thread claimed to be an insider and stated LULU is going to tank. Like 15 min later it was deleted
ER is this week...could it be legit?

>>15463511
I was thinking that instead of getting a home loan I would just selling 100 january 2021 TQQQ puts that way instead paying interest in two years I just get the house for free

>>15464761
I was thinking the same but for auto loan

>>15464523
>just moves on doing the exact same thing because everyone is too lazy to change
Might be laziness, might be that status quo bias takes over because they are brain tired. Helps explain why people vote the same, have trouble changing diet and habits, and stick with losing investments. The devil you know. I highly recommended giving The Behavioral Investor a read. Awareness and mindfulness are the only tools we have to combat status quo bias imho

>>15464778
Not in libgen :(

>>15464778
>>15464790
In pirate bay :)

>>15463824

Playing the Field: Geomagnetic Storms and the Stock Market, a study of the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta, notes the following: Unusually high levels of geomagnetic activity have a negative, statistically and economically significant effect on the following week’s stock returns for all US stock market indices. When a solar flare or CME happens, it can take up to 2 days to impact the earth. Therefore, two days after a large solar flare we should see a drop in the stock market values for that day. From: http://time-price-research-astrofin.blogspot.com/p/solar-activity-markets.html?m=1 since I'm using data collected from points on earth rather than the sun, the effect of heightened solar activity occurs on the day of the activity.

>>15464825
You one of them quant guys?

>>15464865
No I'm just a conspiracy theorist.

I have some money in a Vanguard fund. I'm up about $1600 since March, 2016...

I'm only about $40 below where it peaked (back in July). Time to sell?

why is forex so fucking big?

>>15464916
Im up 1k since i started 3 months ago

>>15464916
If you can't stop thinking about it then just pull out, you shouldn't give two shits about the investment since you should always have clear goals with it to begin with. Pre-plan your trades

>>15464916
Yes.

I'm getting out of western and asian markets in the next week until Brexit finally happens and China stabilizes.
My fucking bank is shitting me with a maintenance and maybe due to that I can't sell on the market. I'm up 10% and this forces me to sell at 9%. After taxes I get 200$ on my 270$ paper profit.

Fuck this shithole, the state does nothing only penalizes anyone with an ounce of brain.

>>15464973
Because it's gambling.

>>15464566
>ER is this week...could it be legit?
kind of new to options, the report is due 9/5, would I want to buy puts expiring 9/6 or is that too early?

>>15465043
most capital gains come from luck. if anything it should be higher, except for maybe savings account interest.

>>15464916
I would, I'm going lilquid from now until Dec, I reckon we'll have a repeat of last December and see huge dips. I regret not being able to buy anything last time, won't be making the same mistake again.

Looks like it will be green on Tuesday

APOLOGIZE

>>15465353
liquid*

Damn, that 80 point drop in the NQ and I missed out..

>>15465364
congratulations

IM FUCKING BORED I WANT TO TRADE!!!!

>>15465889
turn more rocks over desu

>>15465029
Got another $30k in savings accounts because stocks seem kind of expensive now. Just not sure where to put anything at the moment...

Not really saving for anything in particular though... I guess it's just for my next of kin when I eventually die.

>>15465945
>$30k in savings accounts because stocks seem kind of expensive now. Just not sure where to put anything at the moment...
>Not really saving for anything in particular though... I guess it's just for my next of kin when I eventually die.
I'm sure that'll buy them a cool three gallons of milk down the road.

>>15465945
>I guess it's just for my next of kin when I eventually die.
Then why worry about selling? You're probably under 60 right? So why worry about a fucking 30+ year investment? Kek'd

>>15465364

AM I looking at the wrong pre-market data? Futures are down bigly

https://www.cnbc.com/pre-markets/

What downsides are there to PFFR? It looks like a good long term play, but it has little price appreciation potential.

Trade talk stalls, NQ set to dump even more and again I'm not in because they frontran 7690

DOW futures down over 200, will tomorrow be a bloodbath?

>>15466554
futures down probably means a slow climb up

>>15466340

>Trade talk stalls

I'm only seeing this on Zerohedge. LiveSquawk retweeted them though.

Big if true. The US and China were meant to have a big call on the 28th/29th, but we never heard anything about it.

If it was good news, I would have thought Trump would have announced it to pump markets.

>>15466660
Trump would announce it even if it didn't exist

Anon's day off

>>15466660
China has zero reason to negotiate now. Theyve already born the brunt of the trade war impact. To surrender now would make it even more humiliating. They can simply wait for Americans to feel the impact (namely higher prices) before negotiating with president kamala.

Hate to make people uncomfortable but how much is your net worth? Just wonder if stocks is worth it as neet myself.(obviously don't have enough to invest)

>>15466674

Looking at futures right now, he likely will slip in some good rhetoric to pump the markets before they open.

It's a curious thing the US futures, they tend make the ultimate lows during the night and those lows are erased before the open. The S&P would have much lower lows last month if it was regular trading.

>>15466688

Something is brewing. The Chinese have absolutely fuck all reason to think America is negotiating in good faith right now.

I say fuck 'em, let the chips fall where they may. I want a repeat of December.

I want to see the Boomer's world burn.

>>15466707

130kish

i feel poor

>>15466688
>president harris
lol
china will capitulate they have no choice. they still have far more to lose

>>15466707
Something like $510k...have around $220k in the market. House, cash, cryptos, kids 529s make up the rest.

Again, I want to emphasize just how fucking manipulated things are if we get a sustained move lower on the open tomorrow.

It's highly fucking suspect for these things to be moving in a range like this. It's completely artificial.

Markets are completely schitzo to be making moves like this, over and over again.

We know Trump follows the futures market. His aides must have a beeper that goes off whenever futures are below 1%.

>>15466707
$202k, including checking, savings, stocks, and 401K. No debts.
Doesn't include my car, which I own outright... it's only four years old and <40k mi, but has some damage on the front bumper, so maybe worth another $10-15k-ish.

>>15466776

>china will capitulate they have no choice. they still have far more to lose

The Chinese mind doesn't work like ours. They have a different reality.

It wouldn't surprise me if the Chinks were going over the negotiations between the US and China to end the Korean War to sharpen up their skills.

>>15465340
And your country's bonds.

>>15466707
like 20k kek

>>15466830
the currency devaluation is going to start burning them and the dollar will weaken again with the fed cuts. they are entering dangerous territory

>>15466707
If you're asking: "is $50 enough to start investing with", then no.. not even close. I started investing with $5k years ago and even that felt like a too small amount. Years goes by fast and if you're 25 now you obviously want to see major change in your investment account by the age of 30 and that won't happen with $50 or $500.

>Again, I want to emphasize just how fucking manipulated things are if we get a sustained move lower on the open tomorrow.
How exactly? There's bad words coming from China about the trade deal and Trump are saying random shit that are lies, why would traders push the price higher when there's a chance shit heads south between the US and China? Do you consider their fighting and lying bullish or something?
I myself as a lone trader tried shorting the NQ today, but didn't get my entry because those mongoloids frontran me. Does that mean I'm a manipulator? Kek'd.

>>15466914
Fuck, the last part was meant for >>15466806

>>15466707
Around $250k

>>15466914
>>15466923

The chart is too clean, that's my issue with the situation. There's no such thing as coincidences anymore.

We KNOW 100% that Trump follows the markets obsessively when they are open. And we KNOW 100% that he follows the futures market too, because the dog and pony show at the G7 was all about boosting the futures market.

He intervenes when it's about to fall below the trend line, and he feels emboldened enough to pummel China when it's near the upper trend line.

>>15466688
>president kamala.

Opinion discarded. Fucking Joey Snuggles has a better shot than she does.

But I have invested in Telecoin and I feel positive

>>15466688
Not if 4chan votes for trump. That and if I were to vote and not for trump itd likely be yang for some easy neetbucks.

>>15467017
We did the same in 2018 before a big dump, the market is simply just confused. Are we bullish or bearish? Who wants to enter when tomorrow Trump and Xi could announce something good or bad? Traders are currently trading short term, consolidating the area while waiting for something to happen.
I'm sure Trump is trying to pump it from time to time but the people actually doing the trading are just confused at the moment

Anyone have any TA to give for GHSI? Risk vs reward seems decent.

Can the market wait to dump until next week? I need to wait until I get paid on Friday.

Thanks

>>15464523
>>15464778
That and the lack of alternatives. At this point, going without a smartphone is more than a inconvenience, and there is reason to be suspicious of any of the smartphones.

>>15466830
Seems like they have more internal conflict. Trump has to worry about the election, but Xi has to worry about his party getting sick of his shit and sending him to the big gulag in the sky.

>>15467812
Not much to say about it, place a buy at .20 or 0.18 with a tight stop loss and pray it won't just die

>>15466315
Fuck. Aaaaand here’s the top article:

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/02/heres-a-list-of-recession-signals-that-are-flashing-red.html

Number 2 article is an interview with Northman trader? Didn’t realize he was that famous...

>>15468185
>Here’s a list of recession signals that are flashing red
how many times are these retards going to write the same article? they've been saying the same thing since 2012

OLLI CALLS Set sells to 58.50, there is a slim chance of a deadcat before things get ugly. Or a pump on midday on any good news. Look to escape on calls then. If your holding shares your good to wait.

>>15467017
Does that mean to hold my VXX until Friday?

Want to try options on SPY...any advice? I was thinking of buying calls expiring in dec of next year. While I'm at it how come RH shows you the potential profit in a brainlet friendly pic with some options but not others? Thanks all.

>>15466707
5000$ but it was 3500$ a month ago

Fox is launching Fox Bet to bet on sporting events?

Why the fuck isn’t Disney getting in on this? Are they too scared of Negative association to do ESPN gambling?

Green Town Boys.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdpBZ5_b48g
Bros, I'm sorry... but September is gonna be dark red like your gf's used tampons. Try to get some sleep bulls, and try again next month.

>>15468987
>Imlying I let my gf eat enough to get her period

aaaaaaaand we're back

>>15469088
if by bloodred you mean back yeah

>>15466315
Check again nigger. Never bet against the orange cheeto himself

>>15469060
kinda based desu

>>15466898
there's no other way. it's a race to the bottom.

>>15469135
It’s like... it’s real bad... I rarely see futures moving a full 1%, though I think they did the same thing this past weekend because of trump’s after the close announcements.

Being Russell must really be suffering. It makes sense that the small guys would be having a harder time dealing with things like tariffs, they don’t have the size of the big guys to use their volume to exert pricing power.

It’s why target, Walmart, Costco, Amazon still killing it. And target’s new Disney thing could be very good for them.

Plus, that’s where everyone is going to get their new Nintendo Switch Lites!

2900 unbreakable support

>>15469088
Phew, I'm glad we got the recession over with

There’s so many ETFs that I like the look of.

Just discovered SPYB, a buyback-focused version of SPY.

Buybacks usually mean the company has lots of cash and think their stock is undervalued, right. Wouldn’t that be a good area to invest in? Seems like a bullish signal, similar to investing in dividend growth being a good idea.

>>15469455
AND it’s a schwab fee-Free transaction ETF, as is SPYX

guys help me please I have 5000 dollars in my savings account wasting away just tell me what to do...

>>15469496
Buy ETSY

>>15469135

Motherfucker who are these absolute retard dip buyers!

Red Town, boys.

Still looking elevated. Geomagnetic storm is going on right now.

>>15464825

>>15466914
You’re an idiot. No amount is too small

>>15470007

Magneto is causing a selloff, fucking comic books

>>15470046
I mean, I guess not if you don't care about returns.. but most people investing actually wants to make a decent amount of money throughout the years and not have ~$10 going into their account (or re-invested) every year, if that.
But hey, if you feel like spending time and effort investing $50 and making $5-10 annually then be my guest

>>15470175
obviously if you start with $50 you would add to it. everyone has to start somewhere. and assuming your timescale is long enough even $50 right now can easily be a thousand dollars later

>>15470175
Not terrible

WHAT WAS THAT

Unironically, redpill me on tuesday tomorrow
Red or green? I shorted NKE and DKS (dicks sporting goods) because thats what companies will get hit with tariffs the most

>>15470349
>no response

ayup rip me tomorrow

>>15470416
You're going to get creamed, my friend. Short sellers always get their just desserts in the end.

>>15470416
the markets arent rational fren, hopefully it works but who the fuck knows whats going to happen desu

>>15470201
>even $50 right now can easily be a thousand dollars later
Yeah maybe in 50 years

My point is, you can do whatever you want.. but don't expect to rack in even a decent amount of money doing it. You can barely open an account with most brokers with $50, not to mention that if you only have $50 to invest then clearly you're not well off enough and should probably spend your day looking for a job. Maybe the $50 can go to a haircut and a nice shirt for the interview? That's probably a better investment

>>15470556
>Maybe the $50 can go to a haircut and a nice shirt for the interview? That's probably a better investment
based and basic hygiene-pilled

>>15470431
how would shorting not net me some profit tomorrow if everythings all red?

>going fishing with my dad
>driving by Spindletop
>tells me my Great Great Grandmother owned a lot of land there in 1901
>next to the Lucas Gusher
>didn’t lease it
>didn’t start her own oil company
>fucking sold it, including the mineral rights
>because it smelled funny
>it smelled funny
>......
I’m starting to think I’m gonna be poor forever cause it’s in my DNA.

>>15470175
Before robinhood, no-fee-no-minimum mutual funds, and no-fee ETF’s, I’d have agreed with you. Now, may as well buy a few shares here and there and start learning about your own investment preferences and prioritizing saving/investing early on.

If you learn your lessons early on, you’ll be much better suited later in life when your earning potential is much greater.

Cheeto man has again wrecked our stocks!

>>15466707
>is your net worth? Just wonder if stocks is worth it as neet myself.(obviously don't have enough to invest)

~100K stocks and cash, 130K debt (fucking student loan)

>>15470726
>>15470800
I want to short but my gut tells me shit will open green despite all common sense. Will wait and see.

Most people have no idea but dividends are your frens! Don't be lonely anymore. Just buy more dividend stocks and you have many frens!

>>15470903
based dividend fren

>>15470803
that's a big student loan

>>15470726
biz pls

>>15471042
SEE:
>>15470829

>>15470803
>>15470940

Don't feel bad bro I got 34,000 Cash, 3,000 Stocks, but 90,000 Student loans

It's expensive to get an MBA, and CPA, but at least my salary is decent.

>>15471112
saw it after i sent post
just canceled my short orders
will wake up early tomorrow to perhaps make some good option trades

>>15470761
Sorry, man.

>>15470046
>>15470175
the point of investing is to compound your money in the long term, you mongoloids
it doesn't matter how much you start out with, stop waving your e-dick around and pretending you're better than other people because you lose more money than them by virtue of having more in your RH account

Even if I double my money in ETSY I'll still be poor.

Because I only have 18k most I can get is like 40k. If I had a million I could make a million, but right now I feel so pathetic!.

^Pretty sure this dumbass has $0 in his IRA...

Remember to fund your IRA's people, the only excuse is if you're not American. Otherwise, it's the best way "to compound your money in the long term".

If you're not funding your IRA... well then thanks for subsidizing my government!

>>15471391
Yeah I don't have an IRA. Do have a 401k with not much in it though.

Frankly I'm too poor to care much about tax concerns.

>>15464761
Seems risky

FUTURRRRREEEESSS

>>15471406
>Frankly I'm too poor to care much about tax concerns.

>>15471484
we're all gonna make it bros

fastly poster here. reminder that this will be a $100 stock in a month

>>15471406
>>15471544
Depending on the definition of "poor," it's possible that taxes really aren't a big deal. My own long-term capital gains tax rate is 0%. If you are planning to buy and hold stock for at least a year, then that could apply to you as well. On the other hand, be aware that there is a federal savers tax credit, that you can get for making contributions to a to a retirment account. Make sure you don't qualify for that credit first before you decide not to fund an IRA.

>>15471309
>"the point of investing is to compound your money in the long term, you mongoloids"

>down 66% investing his lunch money on shitcoin-stocks

What did he mean by this?

Anons day offff
Anons day off!

>>15471544
>>15471645
Kind of funny that some people are in disbelief when you state the truth. Yeah my federal taxes are really that low and yeah I understand the IRA tax credit and how you even have longer than the year to do it.

>>15471406
I meant the poster above you
401k is good, if you're getting an employer match thats the best

>>15471995
>if you're getting an employer match thats the best
I am but it takes years to vest. I'm trying to get another job so I lose it all.

>>15472054
I'm going to be honest with you here for a second
All I have to go off of is your posts on an anonymous Kenyan spear-chucking forum but your judgement seems really suspect

I was willing to let the "take out a loan and then take margin on top of that to go all in on ETSY" slide, because I thought it was kind of funny
But you also have some long-term vesting situation set up and you're getting cold feet?
you gotta make up your mind about that job bro...
and (I want to really be clear on this) with the current economic and market uncertainty, this is a bad time to lose all your savings on a bad leveraged stock bet while also jumping ship to a new job
When things get turbulent in the economy and companies need to cut some people loose, they always start with the newest employees and the non-essential positions. Basically you're talking about putting yourself in a very sketchy position, in terms of employment and investments, right when things are getting shaky
If you play it safe and keep your head down, keep working your current job, and do something SAFE with your investment money, you can start building a solid financial position right now... but you are doing the opposite of those things.

>>15472152
I'm underpaid making 40k as an accountant in Pittsburgh. Should be making at least 50k. So yeah time to move on and I've only been there a year so I won't lose much. I put in 6% and the match is 3%. Basically it is $1000 I lose. I can make that up quickly with a higher paying job.

In terms of the etsy leverage. I used a credit card effective 4% interest rate, one year loan. Has no margin call stuff attached. Already made a payment. 11 to go.

hey bros, does anybody have an article or any advice to read about buying your first house?

like what do 'living costs' usually end up being as a % of your mortgage? Obviously you have utilities and insurance I mean, any normal house shit you need, whats typically spent on that relative to mortgage cost?

I am renting for $750 plus of course utilities right now, so my total outlay is like $900-950 a month for shelter + internet + water + electricity etc. If I can buy a house that I like with a mortgage that ends up being like $700 to the bank a month, what actual increase in costs am I looking at? I dont want to get in over my head even if it SEEMS like i can afford to buy

>>15472501
You are disregarding a large number of things. Biggest things
>repairs and maintenance
I have to put a new roof on, wat?
>taxes
Thousands of dollars in property taxes every year. $300 per month for every 100k. Tel me you kid?
>utilities
Yes my brain understands utilities cost more to heat house than apartment. But brain don't think of thing!

Honestly if your mortgage is close to your apartment rental then you should double your mortgage to face reality of all the other stuff you will pay.

>>15472501
To answer your question about costs on top of the mortgage: it really depends where you live. utilities, tax, insurance all depend on location.

I've got property taxes out the ass
of course, if you rent, you're still paying property taxes, you're just paying the landlord's property taxes for them

if your situation where you rent is OK, if you can still rent there and you aren't dying to move out, then don't rush it. Start talking with a loan officer at a bank or credit union about getting pre-approved and what kinds of rates you can get.
then, start tracking the area. Check Zillow/Trulia/Refin every couple days for EVERY house that is withing +/-30% of your price range and in an area that is +5-20 miles around the area you want to buy

be patient, let time work for you. watch the market, get pre-approved, go check out houses that you're interested in. Learn what to look for.

When I was looking at houses to buy I was more rushed: I had the money but I only had a ~2 month window to move out of the place I was renting. I had been watching the area for a couple months and was in the pre-approval process when a couple of houses hit the market in my price range that I really wanted. They were GONE in a day or two, sold. The house I ended up buying is OK, I got a good deal, but if I had more time I could have sniped a nice deal.

Basically in the real estate market there is bigger price spread than in the stock market. sometimes people list houses WAY too high, and they never sell, and they have to keep cutting the price for years. And sometimes it's the opposite: the seller wants to sell fast, or they misjudge the value, and they put a house on the market way to cheap and you can scoop it up. Also auctions, foreclosures, and short sales favor the patient buyer.

If you never find a deal that seems really good, don't buy. take your time

>>15472575
thats what i was asking for, i just didnt spell it out, wasnt disregarding

so normally its reasonable to think total costs of living in an apartment vs owning a house is mortgage times 2? then of course i already know my current costs in my apartment

and my property tax in my city i looked it up is $9/$100 assessed

>>15472580
I am definitely already doing this, i check zillow all the time and its how I am getting a feel for what I feel I can afford, but wanted a better idea of actual costs from real homeowners. I like renting its fine, but i also want:

my own equity building
slightly more space
pride of ownership
a garage
etc

My hometown has a 36 mill property tax. Here is what that means:

100k house / 100 = 1000 * 36 = $3600/yr tax or $300 per month.

So 300k house is $900 a month in property tax!

>>15472586
You really have to dive into the nitty gritty. You'll find estimates for everything out there, but some things just are going to be useless. Like I said with the roof. Your roof may have another 10 years of life on it. Age of house is important in maintenance costs.

>>15472632
you keep bringing up roofs

is this not covered by home insurance? Presumably something that big they would want to inspect too before i pay insurance on it, if so.

I have some friends who own of course so im going to ask them too to help me understand if my finances make sense to buy, but im just tired of living in a 1 bedroom apartment you know? I want my own shit, actual equity in something, a garage, not have to worry about being too loud, not having neighbors so close, etc

Anyone got a list of stocks that earn at least 7.5% or more of their current share price in dividends in the course of a year?

>>15472657
My parents recently got a roof and I paid a third of it. We were lucky because a big storm damaged the roof. However the roof was already old. Insurance doesn't pay for an old roof. They pay for accidents. Still they paid for a good portion of it thanks to the storm. Almost 2/3.

>>15472598
Checking Zillow is fine, I want to encourage you to take the next step, get pre-approved for a loan, and start actually contacting the sales realtors and checking out the houses.
I honestly missed buying a 380K house for 260K because I wasn't quite ready when it hit Zillow. It was gone in 36 hours.

And so minor things like how much utilities/insurance/tax/etc. cost are one thing, but you want to be able to move fast if you really see a good deal.

Utilities: water use depends on you. Make sure you like the taste of the water in whatever city, or be ready to go through the Hassle of filtering it yourself. If I had bought a house 5 miles west in the next town over I would have bad tasting water. Cost would be the same, but water is cheap where I live.
Heating/cooling: natural gas is basically free right now, but this is super dependent on where you live. A smaller house is better of course, but there are a million other dependencies
appliances etc.: you have to give these a good looking over when you first tour the house. Ask how old they are, if they "don't know", assume the worst. Write down the make/models and google them, figure out how many years each has left and when you'll be replacing it. Air cond/ water heater/kitchen appliances/sump pump/etc.

is there a basement? does the basement leak? are you in an official flood plain (required to get flood insurance) or no?
you can talk to an insurance agent in your area ahead of time and they can give you a rundown on what your possible costs might be. Show them a couple Zillow postings and talk through what factors might influence the insurance cost

>>15472657
If you buy a house that needs roof work (years of wear and tear), insurance isn't going to pay for it...
I had to pay $14k to get my roof replaced a year after buying my house. But I knew that going into it, it's why I got my house for the price I did

>>15472666
Go learn how to use a stock screener and also while you are at it go study the dividend aristocrat list.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%26P_500_Dividend_Aristocrats

>>15472666
the tradingview screener can do that and a whole lot more.

Click the "filters" button to access the filters. you can select whatever filters you want, and you can choose whatever columns you want and sort.

https://www.tradingview.com/screener

>>15472681
I should note I am planning to buy really cheaply since I live in the Midwest, KC area. like im talking $160k or so max house cost, i make 40-45k a year.

I am curious when you say I need to know all about appliances etc which makes sense, presumably get at least 2 inspections too, how do you do this in say a 36 hour period that that house you missed out on sold in? Was that house in particular so cheap that almost no amount of damage that might need to be fixed could have made it NOT a good deal?

I wont end up with needing to pay $10k for new windows on some McMansion, I'm looking to buy small since its just me and my cat currently, but I also want to make sure I dont get in well over my head and like you bring up, need to spend $10k on a roof or $2k on a garage door or $1k or whatever a water heater costs, etc.

>>15472731
I like KC
I was there about a year and a half ago, one of my friends has a really nice place (98% sure it's in Lee's Summit) for around that much, and I think his taxes are less than half of mine. Sort of jealous about that haha. You might be able to get something nice and small for $120k or below.
For a small house everything is cheaper (smaller roof, smaller air conditioner, fewer windows, less siding, less interior wall footage, etc.)

Small houses in nice-ish areas are in demand. I would have bought a house half the size if I could have, there just weren't any for sale where I live. So I ended up with a big huge family house that I hardly use.
You really want to be in the market and ready to snatch something up if you see the right deal. If you see something that fits all your criteria, contact the real estate agent and tour it ASAP. And tour some other houses too. The more houses you tour and the more things you look at the better. Also ask any family members/friends who have bought houses what kinds of things they saw (or what kinds of things they didn't see and only discovered after they bought).

>>15472832
lol yes, I live in Lee's Summit too, damn wtf man that's weird.

and yeah since I'm alone just with my cat I really dont need so much damn space, Its insane how BIG most houses are. Even stuff over 1500 sqft just seems too big unless you have 2+ kids.

I'm also completely avoiding townhomes/duplexes etc, they are so nice inside at the same price point as a house but man paying a mortage just to share a wall with someone.....lmao at that.

I just resigned my lease on my stupid apartment so I'm here until I think next October or so, I think I might stop investing so much adn build up some cash for a down payment and really seek out houses for sale next summer. Good idea bad idea? I just need to own something soon because leasing is an annoying ass scam

>>15472731
(con'td)
>I am curious when you say I need to know all about appliances etc which makes sense, presumably get at least 2 inspections too, how do you do this in say a 36 hour period that that house you missed out on sold in? Was that house in particular so cheap that almost no amount of damage that might need to be fixed could have made it NOT a good deal?

I'm trying to remember what the exact workflow was in my case. I got pre-approved and retained a real estate lawyer, but I didn't have a real estate agent. If you get a real estate agent they'll walk you through all of this, but I was playing it solo.

you contact the seller real estate agent to check the house out.
you tour the house, ask any questions, write down a bunch of stuff, take a bunch of pictures, and then leave.
You do any necessary research based on what you saw. At this point you can contact them and tell them you're interested, and make an initial offer.
After some back and forth (maybe), you settle at a price. Then you go in and give them some deposit (a couple thousand or so)
after this, you get an actual home inspector to come and do a full home inspection. I say "full", they do a good job going over the house in about 4 hours, so they'll catch all the major stuff. But they won't catch all the minor stuff, some stuff you only discover from living in a house ;^)
after that, there is another round of negotiations that goes between your real estate lawyer and the seller's real estate lawyer where you get them to give you more money back from the sale based on what the inspection turned up. And the lawyers do various lawyer things back and forth. Anyway at the end of this you have a "fine-tuned" closing price that you both agree on. You have to get the mortgage and insurance lined up in parallel (more paperwork). Then you actually close on the house and buy it and move in.

>>15472604
Must be nice to live in israel

>>15472884
Real estate lawyer is different than a real estate agent? Thats weird...if I havent bought before should I just search around for top rated lawyers and agents in my area, and go get pre approved for a mortage from a top tier lender and go from there?

I know thats their job, to help me through this process of buying, but i just wanted to know more here since its free desu, and people will be more open with the process for themselves

>>15472884
>>15472731
(cont'd 2)

so really the main phases are:
0. checking out the listings online. Some have a lot of info, some not so much.
1. you first go and check the house out. You can bring people with you, but in general you don't contract a home inspector for the initial time you go and look a the house. If you have your parents or someone handy go with you then great, but you're really just trying to ballpark a price, check for anything egregious that didn't show in the pictures on the listing, etc. Ask the real estate agent questions about anything and everything (radon, lead paint, when were the last times that things were replaced, etc.). You want to get all the high level info so that you can make an offer or walk away.
2. make the offer (or not). Then, haggling. This can be a four person game of telephone (you -> RE agent -> RE agent -> seller). There is a lot to the haggling. Take into account what price the property was first listed at, what price drops they've done, how long they've been trying to sell it, have they changed RE agents, etc. In my case I was able to negotiate pretty hard because the seller had been trying to sell the house for months and had kept dropping the price.
2.5: if you come to an agreement on a price, you put down a good-faith deposit.
3. home inspection: this is the more detail stuff: checking every single electrical outlet, checking all the appliances etc.
4. Then you use this information for the more detailed haggling about closing costs and final cost. But you can't move the final price too far from the original agreed price, there are limits.

there are a bunch more steps, but as I remember it, the main negotiations happened in basically two "phases"

>>15472921
yeah the RE agent is like an advisor, the RE lawyer is actually doing the contractual paperwork and negotiations. In my case, it was $300 flat rate to retain a RE lawyer through the whole process. It ended up being very helpful, money well spent.

The Lee's Summit guys I know all went to North, all in their late 20's now

>>15472904
>Mandatory military service
>Constant threat of random missile strike
>Constant threat of random suicide bomber
>Immigrants literally want your dead
>UN thinks you're the bad guy, needs to help out the poor innocent Palestinians
>Every cabbie hates you
>The whole world doesn't understand the reason for your existence, and has started to deny the events that let to your founding even happened
>Armed guards everywhere
>gridlock on the freeways every time someone blow up a bus
>You're the only ones who really give a shit about Iran getting nukes
>every time you try to stop them the international community blames you for being a bully
>Always hot as fuck because it's literally the desert

>All businesses and restaurants are closed Friday night
No thank you

>>15472954
this makes sense, thanks man. Yeah I got a couple friends around here who already own that would probably go with me and help me look professional and not like a damn idiot

I'm a bit afraid to get in over my head with some shit ass house but I guess thats what agents and inspectors are for

>>15472978
I'm not from Lee's Summit originally, but I'm now in my mid 20s, I live less than a mile from North, basically due east of the school lol

such a weirdly small place /smg/ eh

https://twitter.com/globaltimesnews

The gooks are jumping up and down at the Global Times about US actions in the trade war.

Futures nearly down 1% on no concrete news.

Brace for impact.

>>15466806
just look at the technicals on the dailies. we have two strong signals and a lot of room to go down if they can't breakout and defend it. I expect a drop in the next 45 days

Shit, I didn't have time too finish it this weekend.

What's the verdict, ARE they?

>>15473260

Just depends on le tariff man.

The call between China and the USA happened on the 29th, but we haven't heard shit about that call at all aside from the fact that there have been difficulties in setting a date for the Chinese trade team to come to the USA in September.

That tells me that things aren't going so well.

Markets are pretty captive to the Tweets right now, it can go either way but I'm leaning bearish.

Time will tell.

>>15473309

Stocks are at ATH's. Gold has had a massive run up too this year. I'd be weary of buying either.

The time to buy stocks was in 2009-2011.

The time to buy gold was in 2008, and then again in 2014.

The glorious thing about the modern market is that you don't need to *buy* anything. You can just short anything if you think something is overpriced.

>>15473331
Except... stocks tend to get more valuable over time, but bonds, gold, and the dollar keep getting more valuable.

Yet, every time lately that things look like they’ll pull back significantly, they don’t. Even good keeps running, and will probably continue as we get our rate cuts.

>>15473376

Stocks do tend to get more valuable over time, but then valuations get a swift kick in the teeth to the tune of about 30% from recent ATHs.

Happens every cycle.

Cash is a piss poor investment.

For me, I like buying things when there is blood in the streets at around multi decade lows.

Oh man Peter Schiff is on the yang gang case.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfKcXBnZMkA

>>15473492

Peter utilizes Libertarianism as a way to justify his Jewish narcissism. Everything about him is purely about profiting economically, fuck the nation.

Smart guy but he has been completely wrong about his predictions regarding stocks and inflation since 2011.

>>15473512
I like libertarians because it truly hasn't been tried yet.

>>15473530

Uh huh.

kinda want to short bonds... dessu...

>>15466707
30k

>>15463511
Most useless fund manager ever

>>15470556
Or he can open an account with 50 in some commission free ETF and add 10% of his income every pay period until he has enough to make some risky trades

>>15471611
The spread right now says otherwise

>>15471720
that chit coins arent investments mongoloid

>>15472980
at least the world's billionairs got your back desu

>>15473902
You think the Fed is done lowering rates?

How is it that the credit for selling a 300 soxl put is 15,800 but the stock price is only 14900 for 100 shares. Can you even lose money? Sorry brainlet i guess

>>15473902
>>15474620
25 point cut is 100% likely at this point

>>15474862
Based free markets
What are the odds of 50bps cut?

MSFT to 139 today.

>>15474924
https://www.cmegroup.com/trading/interest-rates/countdown-to-fomc.html

0.4% in September, rising to 59.8% in October (use the buttons on top of the graph to show future FOMC meeting implied rate probabilities)

we can probably put this in the next OP so everyone is aware of it

Looks like LCI gonna open low today. Is it pulling back?

>>15475058
>LCI
is that shithole still alive?

>>15475064
>he doesnt know about the recent 75% pump

>>15474692
the stock is at 155, not 149
so if you sell a $300 put, someone can chose to make you buy 100x the stock at $300

it doesn't matter if you buy 100 shares and then sell the put, that doesn't cover you, it's a put. You'd be "covered short" if you had sold 100 shares short and then sold the put.
but assuming you go in raw (just sell the put and hold cashh):
you lose money if the stock price goes down: you have to buy the 100 shares for $300 each ($30k) from the person who exercises the option, then if you only can sell those for $120 each, because the price went down, you are -2200 for the whole trade.
the person will exercise the option if SOXL is under $300, which it will be no matter what, so you make a sort of linear profile return for increasing prices above the breakeven price

also that high of a strike is gonna have a wicked spread, dunno what kinds of bids/asks you're seeing or what the exp is. it might actually end up being a little more challenging, not sure if there is really any movement on puts of that price
But it makes sense

>>15475064
>still alive
Yup. Got back its levo contract, increased sales of almost all other drugs, beat earnings consistently, analyst price targets keep rising, high insitutional ownership. I heard its lifting and reading Nietzsche too.

I'm going to racetrac for coffee, jerky and boiled peanuts

I'm fucking rich, I got it like that

Jesus christ this market right now.. literally entered a short just when Trump tweeted and boom profit.
Reminds me when I traded crypto in 2017, where coins would pump and dump because a guy said something that in reality has no impact on it whatsoever

I love this man.

Pay check happened and I have $200 more in my brokerage account. What buy?

>>15475137

McDonalds shares.

>>15475087
>>15474692
I see the share price is closer to 150 in pre-market
still, the rest of what I said is correct

the important part about selling an option is that you are giving the other person control. You can't assume that they will immediately exercise, you have to consider possible price movements that they might be trying to hedge

>>15475101
damn, I'm jelly

Time for another day of NBRV bleeding back out can't wait

>>15475137


Physical silver

it begins

>>15475181
Nuhhh nowitenns

>>15475145

>Passive income
>Owning a McDonald's franchise

I thought passive income was income that didn't require work. Babysitting ex-cons for 60 hours a week to make sure they're flipping burgers the right way seems like work to me.

>>15475200
>babysitting
That's what managers are for silly.

>>15472666
Office Depot (ODP) pays $0.10 total per annum, so it would be a 7.5% yield if you buy for $1.33 or less.

>>15475145
MCD P/E is so high tho

>>15474553

Billionaire Jewish elites all live in Switzerland. Why do you think that's the only noncucked country in Europe that isn't being waterboarded with Africans?

All praise to LCI and it's prophet LCIguy.

AHAHAHAHAHAH get fucked boomers, bye

>Red open
>Silver up AGAIN
>no trade deal

Exit the market before it’s too late.

>>15475312
Exceptu LCI desu

/smg/ is so quiet
the market is down but all the /smg/ meme stocks are green
LCI, VRUS, DF, TSLA, GALT, CGC, HEXO
this is just a confirmation that /smg/ is smarter on the whole than the stock market
very tasty, very nice

I'm about to invest another day playing tropico 6 hehe

>>15475345
>TSLA
>/smg/ meme stock
It is a meme, I'll concede that, but since when has it been shilled here?

>>15475356
maybe more like anti-shilled for TSLA, more people talking about shorting it than buying it

>>15475356
Yeah most anons on here think TSLA is a dumpster fire waiting to happen

>>15475095
>I heard its lifting and reading Nietzsche too.
kek, good one. Happy you guys are making money.

>>15475345
tsla aside the fags who shilled those stocks have been accumulating since 300% their current value

TLT is getting fuuuuuuuuucked.

Anybody playing DRYS?

>>15475243
we returning to trade-war fearful crab frens.

>SNSS

>>15475389
>early
>but not wrong
The power of /smg/ autism

Imagine a life where you have never been great at anything, never felt the urge to be great at anything, never felt that magnetic admiration to a stock that was great at something, wanted to imitate and ultimately conquer it. Just nothing. Literally all you do in life is shitpost. Occupy space. short stocks. You're a bear.

You're bored,tweeting about your fucking stock going bankrupt and not even feeling any kind of happiness from it, just soothing your constant need to be bitter and cunty and petty toward other traders. Every single thing you've done in the past year was mundane, shallow, and boring. You spent the last six hours reading kinda-interesting Forbes stories about people who made interesting IPOs for the market or some stupid bullshit that you think is interesting and you may say is interesting but you're not really sure if it's really interesting. You're just fucking sitting there, gestating, fermenting, with a moist hole between your ears that guarantees you'll at least never have to think and move around and work to support a stock.

And then you see bulls, over in some corner, having fun. You've never seen this before. What are they even doing? Instead of their consciousnesses merely sitting in their thick skull and revolving around itself, they are imbuing their conscious energy and intentionality into external stocks, ETFs, indexes, companies. All the bitterness and cuntiness you feel nonstop seems to be absent, as they congratulate each other for making gains, and happily learn from someone who lost money. These creatures are truly content to be alive. They have found purpose in a purposeless universe.

And your gaze turns back on itself, on your self, and you realise you've never had that. You can never have it. You're just a stupid bear.

So you get up, you walk over there, and you fucking short everything. Just short the whole fucking market. The five points of gains you get will be worth destroying the economy. Because you're a bear.

is there still growth potential in MSFT? they already have +$1T market cap

>>15475130
Hopefully Beto rourke gets elected and shows up trump first day by closing a deal with China
Brainwashed magatards(not Republicans) would be on suicide watch

>>15475463
based and bearpilled

Bros... what the fuck was that

>>15475463
DELETE

>>15475486
shove it up your ass you unamerican fuck

Literally caught the top with a 500x, sadly only a few contracts because the risk is massive. Still though, fucking fantastic

>>15475503
odd place to put your stop. Kinda 50/50 if you'll get stopped out unecessarily.

>>15475463
>The five points of gains you get will be worth destroying the economy.
You're god damn right they will be worth it. ALL IN VXX

>>15475532
I placed it there because it right above a strong weekly, I'm hunting the price down because it's just a short term trade

Why did it just drop so hard?

>>15475558
what instrument is this?

>>15475502
pretty sure hes trolling or mad because his calls get justed by trump

>>15475472
Yes because people don't pick stocks anymore they just put it all on a index fund and those funds will buy more MSFT.

>>15475502
Mad boomer magatard lmao
COPE
It’s over he’s done next election and it may not be Beto but it’ll be someone else that crushes him easily. Next time don’t vote for a “businessman” who failed at every business he’s ever owned and is now failing the economy. You set back Republicans 10 years at best. Good job faggot

>>15475559
eat my shorts

>>15475573
Kill yourself magatard boomer

>>15475573
anyone who hasnt figured out we are crabbing is retarded and deserves their losses

>>15475592
if you want to be ruled by china you can move there faggot.

>>15475580
Imagine if what you said was even remotely true. Imagine failing upwards of a billion dollars.

>>15475594
On that day the bear ate the crab

>>15475472
There more a stability stock with dividend. Some AI potential, but massive growth phase is over.

>WKHS

>>15475559
Playing the Field: Geomagnetic Storms and the Stock Market, a study of the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta, notes the following: Unusually high levels of geomagnetic activity have a negative, statistically and economically significant effect on the following week’s stock returns for all US stock market indicess.

http://time-price-research-astrofin.blogspot.com/p/solar-activity-markets.html?m=1

Looks like the storm has passed but there was a G1 event over the long weekend. Solar activity is still elevated.

thinking of buying a 360 call for SPY expiring 3/20...think this mess will be sorted out by then and this fucker will moon thanks to unlimited global QE?

So it looks like PSA and ROKU buyers are irrationally bullish. I can take a small loss now but trust me I'll make money shorting those fuckers. If not this week it will be the next or the one after.

>>15475463
Been a while since I’ve seen that one, never seen this version
>>15475130
Oh fuck!! This is fuckkng REAL
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!
>>15475604
It’s kinda true, he would have done amazingly well if he’d just sat on his father’s original New York real estate. And he managed to bankrupt a fucking casino. I’m surprised by how well he’s done as pres, all things considered.

>>15475559
ISM numbers released and are shit compared to what was expected. Another brick in the wall of confirming the continual slowdown in the global economy.

>>15475624
i will read that sounds interesting desu

>>15469455
>company has lots of cash
If you are assuming a recession, then this is the reason to go in. However stock buybacks at a ath is bad. They wasted so much money when they could have done capex. It would be better to get a value etf.

>>15475618
>not buying more below $4
Literally never going to make it

SNSS going to the FUCKING MOON WHERE ARE YOU SNSSBRO?

>>15469496
Put it in a retirement account with spy or vti

>>15475607
lol we still arent even close to the bottom yet Crab-sama is very large desu

>>15464883
Have you read Foucaults Pendulum? Listening to it while I wage and am looking forward to reading the unabridged version

>>15475604
>made money on lucky bets
>failed 5 times before that
Even a broken clock is right twice a day
>>15475602
Lol typical boomers mentality thinking the absolute worst, we cut a good deal and move on that’s how this was supposed to be. Do you know trumps deal? What’s trumps plan? Has he laid one out? Or is he just stalling using this as a way to prop himself up next year when he out of nowhere says “THE DEAL IS DONE BIG DEAL FOR AMERICA HUGE” and the funny thing is while I believe that could happen it’s more likely the Chinese will let their people rot until next election when they know they’ll get someone they can actually talk with. It’s ogre magatard but maybe eBay will take those red hats you had for a nice profit!

>>15475681
Baudolino was his best book, fight me cunt

>>15466318
Guys pls help

>>15475700
Thanks for the rec. Find me on Rumblr fgt

>>15475618
>>15475653
>buying high in the first place
>doubling down like a faggot
Never gonna make it
>SNSS
We looooooooooooose. Up it goes. Never come down.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcEc8zeNYxI

>>15475653
Oh I did buy more, just came outta nowhere

>>15475723
>implying I bought high on WKHS
I've tripled by money on WKHS faggot

>>15475699
lmao cheeto man living rent-free

Finally unbanned from calling out shot caller for talking to himself on here

>>15475743
doing gods work fren

>>15475567
What do you mean?

>>15475649
It doesn’t say WHEN they bought back, I’d imagine there was lots of buying back during the December 2018 bloodbath, maybe during those pullbacks this year too.

>>15475653
I'm here.
Actually there is some conference happening for SNSS on the 5th so this pump is expected

Is this a birdstrike selloff? Am I supposed to sell? Have we violated those “oh shit we’re going down!” Levels?

>tfw HODLing CGC and OGI

>>15475699
>owns 500+ successful businesses
>failed 4 times
Looks like the clock was working, but broke a couple of times.

>>15475634
>amazingly well if he just sat on his fathers real estate
Youd probably do very well if you just stopped trading and put all your money in divvie stocks. Of course, you'll be working a menial job for 20-40 years while waiting for significant returns. No big parties, no conquering, no Forbes articles. Just regular Joe inheriting some wealth and safely investing it.

>>15475733
Damn dude, nice

>>15463511
g the Field: Geomagnetic Storms and the Stock Market, a study of the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta, notes the following: Unusually high levels of geomagnetic activity have a negative, statistically and economically significant effect on the following week’s stock returns for all US stock market indices. When a solar flare or CME happens, it can take up to 2 days to impact the earth. Therefore, two days after a large solar flare we should see a drop in the stock market values for that day. From: http://time-price-research-astrofin.blogspot.com/p/solar-activity-markets.html?m=1

>>15475780
wat we've barely moved? is everyone else looking at different charts?

>>15475782
I do like divvie stocks, and I feel like a jackass chasing growth at these valuations.

Is the idea that he hasn’t been playing 4D chess all his life that hard to believe?

THREADLY REMINDER THAT DIVIDENDS ARE YOUR FREN

fucking kek, FALL FALL FALL

>>15475827
No. I dont think hes made perfect decisions. I think hes made a lot of bad ones. It seems hes learned from a lot of his mistakes.

>>15475852
i mean if you are in a business long enough, you are bound to make money at some point assuming you dont have a serious learning disability

>>15475850
Ahem. Autumn.

Sometimes I wonder why I even trade stocks.. Make so much more money with bitcoin... Considering buying GBTC and HUTMF but then I may be overexposed.

>>15475860
Well he started off a few decades ago and had some pretty bad moments, and recovered. I imagine many people wouldn't recover through some of the bad business times hes been through.

>>15475884
"if you can't beat them with brains baffle them with bullshit". It seems to have worked for Trump his whole life.

>>15475891
It's one strategy of many. What would you do if your opponent was smarter than you? Give up?

>>15475900
I've used it myself many times. Results have been mixed.

>>15475681
I haven't. I've read the Illuminatus trilogy, V by Pynchon, and Infinite Jest among other conspiracy novels. I've heard of this one, though and might have to check it out if the writing is kino.

>>15475865
Delusion.

>>15475819
I was holding SCHG, which got hit -1% in a couple of minutes. I don’t like seeing that from my index funds.

I’ve been trying to work my way out of this shitty etf, and finally did when it bounced up a bit at a -1% total return, but it was only about $15 because I had been selling for a while.

Comparing its returns to LGLV for example, I feel so damn stupid for picking the wrong schwab funds...

>>15475852
So many people confuse “fuck the libs” with “trump is a great business man” that I can’t tell who’s who sometimes. It really doesn’t seem like he was that great of a business man, but he was fortunate enough to be born into the business of New York realty, which has been an insansely profitable over the past century.

>>15475917
It’s nice semiotics piece.

>>15475904
Of course. So we've established
>Trump has been energetic and successful
>his strategies, while not perfect, are useful for getting results
>his back up strategy for when the other fails increases chances of success

>>15475928
>fuck the libs
>Trump is a great business man
How about
>fuck people who hate America
>Trump is not too bad on his own, but far superior to his 2016 political opponent

Of course, SNSS would finally start the run up to ASH but at the same time WKHS would rape the stop lossers.

>>15475932
In that case I should definitely read it.

>>15475559
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-economy-pmi-ism/u-s-factory-sector-contracts-for-first-time-since-2016-ism-idUSKCN1VO1P4?il=0
>The U.S. manufacturing sector contracted in August for the first time since 2016 amid worries about a weakening global economy and rising trade tensions between China and the United States, an industry report released on Tuesday showed.
>The Institute for Supply Management (ISM) said its index of national factory activity decreased to 49.1, the lowest level since January 2016.
concrete sign economy is starting to slow when people were hoping it would at least stay above 50

This is a dip to buy. Market won't stay down all day. End near green.

>>15475956
I used to think Biden wasn’t so bad, but he isn’t as good at hiding his mental decline, or his deterioration has accelerated. RIP my UNH.

I hate the circus trump has turned the White House into, but at least he’s woken people up to the threat that China poses.

>>15475985
And he’s holding fried chicken. Kek as fuck.

>>15475990
>I used to think Biden wasn’t so bad, but he isn’t as good at hiding his mental decline, or his deterioration has accelerated. RIP my UNH.
same, but then I remembered it's really been a decade since Biden has had to do any honest to god politcking and he's now old as fuck.
Honestly his only two hopes for winning are that most people stay tuned out of the contest, since every poll shows the more people actually tune in the less they want to vote for him, or that people still think he's the only "electable/moderate" candidate that's viable

>>15475990
I think the media made people believe it was turned into a circus. Hes not a career politician, so hes not behaving like a politician, and this is somehow bad and unexpected? No need to keep people around for connections to help you later in life, he's not afraid to burn some bridges.

>>15475990
>>15476012
Biden/Trump debate should simply be a publicly administered dementia test at night (while at maximum sundown).

Lol ok bros looks like its time for the lunch down slow time. See ya l8r

>>15472700
Thanks.

>>15475214
Ehh that stock has been bleeding. Any stocks that show more resilence?

>>15475990
>he’s woken people up to the threat that China poses

Everyone already knew about that. TPP (and TPPa) were drafted SPECIFICALLY to isolate china with our partners and force fair trade practices upon the region. I think it was the first thing trump tore up because hurrdurr black dewd

>>15475990
>And he’s holding fried chicken. Kek as fuck.
He's finally learned how to secure the black vote... Trump's finished this time.

>>15476012
If the field whittles down to Trump vs Biden, Biden has no way to hide and Trump wins... The only hope democrats have at winning the general would be some kind of rouge wave that takes out the current administration and leaves a power vacuum.

>>15476012
If i were a bookie, i would open betting on Biden to win primaries and general election at the following odds:
>primaries win: 4:1
>general election: 8:1

>>15476052
>drafted SPECIFICALLY to isolate china
>HURRDURR JUST GIVE CHINA LOTS OF MONEY AND THAT’LL TEACH ‘EM! YOU’RE A STUPID RACIST IF YOU DISAGREE

You’re an absolute moron.

>>15475983
Standard formula: [news] amid [telling you what to think].

>>15476069
Heh, gottem! That's exactly what he said!

>>15476025
kek true

Slot machine go up. I’m tired of losing money.

Fuck Drump

>>15476052
That's literally fake news. It was believed to be a bad thing for China, even China themselves was strongly against it. But they later dropped the opposition when they realized they could join it later on and pretty much abuse their position.
TPP was retarded for everyone, basically just another trade deal to further delay progression.

SNSS is up 8% today. feelsgoodman.jpg

We'll close green today

fucking wall street... this whole "buy gold when stocks go down" thing is stupid.

More like Donald DUMP am I rite?! Haha

What stocks should I buy to profit off of the Hurricane and the relief that'll happen?

>>15476181
WOOD and F.

>>15476181
Probably NAIL too.

>>15476181
Gonna have to send a lot of weed to the Bahamas, better buy CGC

>>15476181
HD obviously

>>15476181
just invest in FEMA scams.

>>15476118
Daft Punk hit some hard times, damn.

>>15476076
See
>>15476093
You’re not as clever as you think

Looks like Cramer Club is buying Novartis. You guys know anything about this pharma play?

>>15476277
I am exactly as clever as I think.
I don’t know what he means by “further delay progression.” Delay progress of Chinese incursion?

Need new bread...

>mfw weak handed bears are gonna be wiped clean by lunch

Are you secure?

>>15476388
This is why I refuse to be InstaFamous, or let anyone hear my soundcloud raps.

>>15476398
NEETs and Incels will inherit the world and it will be GLORIOUS.

NEW THREAD

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>>15476388
BASED

>>15476388
Jordan Peterson on this philosophical implications of LotR is painfully relevant

>>15473331
>The glorious thing about the modern market is that you don't need to *buy* anything. You can just short anything if you think something is overpriced.
is it gold overpriced?