/biz/ - Business & Finance

i will keep watching my little indicators, oblivious to any news event

but i hope she does a good job

>>14528
>Too bad its completely overrun with Cryptocurrency faggots...
That's one of the main reasons it was created.

Market heading up, why didn't you buy the fucking dip, /biz/raelites??

>>14550
Lol I used to do that in lazymode. Now I pay attention to the market news


>>14556
Really? Well that's shitty. Cryptocurrency speculation in not Business and Finance..


>>14558
>/biz/raelites
To Zion! All the money from the Goyim! For /biz/rael !

>After Yellen's first speech, markets have been going up up up!

Nothing like a bit of patriotic circlejerking to get the speculators confident!

Yellen is just another Bernanke printer with saggy tits.

>>14574
>Printer
That's now how QE works, but yes she's just another Bernanke with saggier tits.

>>14583
>now

That's always how QE works. They did it in the Roman Empire as well when they clipped coins. There's nothing new about it. Benefits of having a monopoly on the money supply.

>>14602
>TFW no stranglehold on money supply

Wish I had the connections to start doing business in China

Bump

Is the board slow?

>>14655
Not especially, but there are already a lot of forex and stock threads, unlike /pol/

bump

>>14666
Ah... I guess I should have lurked more before diving in.

Also nice get

>>14691
Thanks anon

Come on PCYC!!!!

>>14736
What investments do you mean with the robocop video you posted on your site? I don't want to watch the whole thing

>>14752
It was a joke. Somebody remade Robocop scene for scene but with a low budget. It was lulzy.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=206_1391741796

>>14736
did you get out of dgaz

i'm from the other place too

sold T in favor of TEF

despite lower dividends, it has the growth potential that T clearly doesn't, and that might be in large part due to its exposure to latin america

>>14766
Nope, I sold at the high earlier this week. Bought at around 4.35$

I'll hold it to see where it's heading. If anything I'm trying to break even

>>14762
>http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=206_1391741796
wtf did i just watch

>>14655
No, but many want to avoid you like the plague.

>>14781
The next investment. Robocops in Detroit.

Amazing right?

>>14784
( ;_;)

>>14744
>Come on PCYC!!!!
Can anyone tell me in brief why so many people like PCYC on this board?

>>14797
I suggested it awhile back when it was around 116$-98$ a share. I had a good tip from some of my relatives and business connections (all in medicine) that the drug is now being prescribed everywhere.

They are presenting their findings in March in a huge Oncology meeting

Listening to wipe. Not even once.

>>14805
what's the drug

>>14829
this is not purely a wipe thread

/biz/ should start having a daily market thread

>>14823
Imbruvica for chronic lymphocytic leukemia

>>14823
Imbruvica from what I recall.

>>14829
I'm just making the thread, nigger.

>>14836
Agreed! Posting actual trader watchlists

>>14570
>Cryptocurrency speculation in not Business and Finance..

Kill yourself

>>14868
Please explain how a "currency" that is backed with literally nothing is worth money? Its driven by babies first speculators and the real traders are having a field day.

Also I can't wait for the huge amount of articles written about all of the IRS inquires as to why people aren't paying their capital gains tax

>>14878
Damn you are stupid. Speculation is speculation. No matter what/where it is.

Maybe you should just go back to your shitty site and shill there.

>>14931
I understand speculation is speculation, but there's some boiler room deal going on with Bitcoin and I don't want to be on that wild ride. It's like going all in on a Marijuana penny stock right now.

Unless you're part of the boiler room team, I would stay out. But it's your money, and profits are profits

>>14878
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulip_mania
Does it matter if it isn't backed with anything? Regardless, you have cryptos like BTC and now doge that are actively developing as currencies and are being adopted, while developing their own services. BTC focuses on TOR, whereas Doge is focusing on legitimate trading. Its inflationary nature means it can be used as a stable currency once mining is complete in a year.

i bought into UVXY again when it was back in the 70s, had sold earlier when it hit 104

goddammit you'd think it'd be up today

>>14955
are you just trying to sound smart? or do you believe this bullshit you type

>>14955
So you just don't know what you're talking about but act elitist?
You'll fit right in.

>>14967
Why would it be up -- the market is up, the VIX is down. Do you even understand the products you're trading?

>>14528
this board was made souly for dogecoin threads because g-tards dont like having to face the fact that they missed 3 different money trains

>>14966
This is why no one takes him seriously.

>>14979
well yes, but with IP plunging

i'm saying you'd think VIX would be up and stocks down

>>14967
Nah, wont be up until at least after Yellen continues taper and maybe some weak jobs report or something.

This last spike was due to the Emerging Markets nonsense.

>>14960
>>14966
>>14972
>>14991
Lol Bitcoin Shills are so defensive. I have no problems with Bitcoin and people making money off of it. But I wouldn't do it myself; therefore, I can't give any recommendations to dealing with the BTC market.

This isn't a baseless decision. I don't trade Bitcoin because I hate it or something. I just think it's too risky for my tastes.

>>15010
>>14979
I can't wait until Virgin America becomes publicly traded. By far my favorite airline to fly domestically. They have fairly decent deals out of Dallas too.

>>15010
>i'm saying you'd think
You essentially have to go full Costanza mode when dealing with the market. Do the very opposite of what you want to do, or what you think is going to happen.

>>14878
The value came largely from the lack of regulation and ability to launder money. Now that everyone is catching on, world governments are going to come down hard.

Once it's no longer transact for free, it's going to crash so hard.

>>14960
>isn't backed by anything
the dollar is backed by nothing but people thinking it has value too, the government does monetary policy but that doesn't give it jnherant value. No reason governments couldn't make their own Cryptos and do monetary policy with them. Bitcoin has value because it was the digital currency to solve the double spend problem, tulips were not rare

Bitcoin might not be the cryptocurrency that gets big, it might be a few others but regardless crypto is the future

>>15029
That's my fear. Is that whenever people are getting audited by the IRS for being morons and depositing BTC gains in their bank accounts without paying taxes on their gains. Or whenever people realize that the FBI owns the largest Bitcoin wallet and their using it to flush out criminals by pumping the price and tracking transactions.

Too much downside potential. But there is money to be made in it.

>>15044
>The dollar is back by nothing
It's called the US GDP you retard. You sound like those Goldbugs.

>>14528
>Too bad its completely overrun with Cryptocurrency faggots...
>>>/pol/
You didn't get a sticky directing you here, did you?

>>15026
So you don't know what you are talking about but act elitist.
Learn where you are before posting, you won't come off as obnoxious from the start if you lurk more.

>>14528
>Too bad its completely overrun with Cryptocurrency faggots...
>implying that /biz/ isn't a containment board specifically meant to contain these retards

>>15057
to be fair, goldbugs are betting on SHTF scenarios

in such a scenario, people with all their money in internet bytes are going to be fucked

>2014
>trading stocks

lol, it's like you faggots don't even try. Can't you see that Forex is the absolute GOAT of all investments?

>>15078
>So you don't know what you are talking about but act elitist

Giving an honest risk analysis does not equal me not knowing what I'm talking about. It only comes off as elitist because I'm challenging your position. Bitcoin, to me, seems like too much risk with not enough upside to justify investing in.

>>15089
Actually I've heard BTC people say that Gold = Bitcoin. Seriously.

Goldbugs aren't betting on a SHTF scenario. They're betting on a magical reset button so they can finally make something of themselves. It's like the person that constantly daydreams about all of the woulda-coulda-shouldas in their life.

>>15092
Well we can have dailies that fit the theme of the board.

>>15103
>FOREX
>Not a way to lose tons of cash with leveraging

Pick two

>>15057
who says a government can't make their own crypto backed by GDP?

anyway I think this thread should go back on topic to stocks so I'll stop arguing

>>15089
I'm actually starting to think the gold bugs may have a point, if China buys up a shit ton of the stuff because they're worried about everyone else inflating their currency.

>>15126
Agreed.

Is there anyone else playing the DGAZ/UGAZ train?

>>15120
>Giving an honest risk analysis does not equal me not knowing what I'm talking about

You don't know shit about cryptocurrency so you're in no position to give a risk analysis.
Yet you still act like you do.
You can keep pretending to not understand that or you can just back off and try to be more humble.

What's up with all these banker suicides lately?

"January 26, 2014 - William ‘Bill’ Broeksmit, 58 - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2547343/Former-executive-Deutsche-Bank-hanged-Kensington-home.html

January 27, 2014 - Gabriel Magee, 39 - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2547275/BREAKING-NEWS-Man-30s-dies-plunge-JP-Morgan-headquarters-Canary-Wharf.html

January 29, 2014 - Mike Dueker, 50 - http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-01-30/russell-investments-chief-economist-dueker-found-dead.html

February 3, 2014 - Ryan Crane, 37 - http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-02-13/ryan-crane-jpmorgan-equities-trading-executive-dies-at-37.html

February 4, 2014 - Richard Talley, 57 - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2553964/CEO-commits-suicide-nail-gun-company-investigation.html

here's an article detailing how they all knew eachother:
http://osnetdaily.com/2014/02/bombshell-dead-jpm-bankers-knew-each-other-and-had-uncovered-something/ "

>>15145
They don't. Can't run the world with gold. It's the oil supplies that matter. Control the Spice and you control the universe.

>>15159
>Banker suicides
>During tax season
Nothing new here.

>>15157
>you're in no position to give a risk analysis.
That's a great opinion fella. Please stay buttmad that I insulted your precious "currency" instead of engaging in honest dialog.

>>15126
Crypto is a technology. It may eventually get adopted as an industry standard, but so what? No one's going to give up their monetary policy tools based on the ideals of some egghead.

>>15103
2risky4me, m8

>>15120
>Giving an honest risk analysis does not equal me not knowing what I'm talking about.

but you still do not know what you are talking about.

>>15172
>Opinion

It's a fact, autismo.
You don't know shit, you can talk around it all you want, you're still a shitty tripfag that doesn't know shit.

>>15174
Government doesn't have the historical backing to support a move of common sense or efficiency.

>>15182
You keep saying I don't know what I'm talking about. So then either:

A: Correct me and educate me
B: GTFO the thread

>>15182
Elaborate, mate. Where's the gauranteed upside?

>>15137
sold most of my dgaz at the high recently

>>15172
wow you show how stupid you are more and more with every post. you are on fire today

>>15199
every time you are corrected you go off on another tangent. whatever you think is what is best.

>>15172
Actually, your only argument stems from the fact that it isn't something with real value, except as others pointed out, neither is most currency.

All "no value" currency only requires that everyone else has some confidence that everyone else will use it as if it had value. You could rip up pieces of paper and say it was a currency, but you would have to make people trust it.

In other words, the only thing left is confidence. If there were no confidence in the currency, then why are people trading back and forth with "real non valued currency" as if it were?

>>15215
Your shitposting skills are admirable.

>>15209
I sold the 4K shares at that 4.55$ price after buying in the low 3's. Bought back in assuming Nat Gas was going to continue to 4.5-4.75 range for awhile. Getting BTFO right now. Thankfully I only got 1K shares

>>15228
Not one person has presented evidence that Bitcoin is a long term, sustainable currency that is guaranteed to hold these levels of value for the coming years.

Not one person has cited evidence that BTC can survive legislation against it.

>>15244
My arument stems from the fact that it isn't backed up by any tangible asset AND that most governments wouldn't allow a competing currency. I am worried about long term growth with BTC as more and more legislation is introduced to destroy it.

This, coupled with a few kids getting raped in Federal prison for tax evasion will certainly hurt the appeal of BTC.

>>15244
wipe has no clue that the confidence in the USdollar is waning.
he is a blind bat in a cave with no exit.

>>15244
Butcoins problem is that it isn't a unit of account, and the menu costs are more of a pain in the ass than they are worth dealing with given the Volatility involved.

Then there are the larger issues at hand, like the extremely limited supply, which is the primary thing going to keep it from ever going big.

>>15279
>trading fiat for more fiat

perfect exit plan, m8

>>15279
>Confidence in the US dollar is waning
>US has a monopoly on the oil supplies

Seriously, I'll start panicking whenever we lose control over the worlds oil. As of right now, we can bully everyone into using the dollar. China is currently setting up to reduce dependency on America but it's going to take awhile.

South America and Africa will be China's best bet for beating the economic war with America. But its going to take a decade or so building the infrastructure.

>>15279
>>15279
ITS HAPPENING!

>>15270
Except they would be made to comply afterwards or grandfathered out of it if such a law as proven to be in the works. If such a law were in the works, we'd have heard about it from the other cryptocurrency people. I don't know what country you come from, but in the US most laws don't retroactively punish people, because how can you punish someone for a law that didn't exist at that time?

>>15159
'suicides'

Clearly financial hit squads trying to stop a financial edward snowden

>>15270
Keep moving the goal posts.

It started with
>Crypto is not even Finance
now we're at
>I need guarantee that Crypto is viable as a low risk long term investment

>>15311
this started around the final fed meeting of bernanke

stocks were tumbling

probably got some margin calls

>>15313
who the fuck cares

stop being so obsessed with fucking Wipe and stay on-topic, i.e., the market

WIPE WELCOME HOME POST THE POLSE GAME.

STOP IT

>>15309
I had read that China was banning Bitcoin soon and I wouldn't be surprised if the USA was using the currency as a honeypot. Hence why FBI owns largest wallet.

>>15327
http://www.marketwatch.com/game/polse

>>15313
Actually I summarized my position about Bitcoin here:

>>15026


>>15334
Agreed. I don't get why Bitcoin shills get so butthurt when you challenge the validity of their precious "currency"?

Back on topic, those following Nat Gas, I think we are going to see a dip in the price. This last hump looks like the final hoorah for Gas

Am I getting the quote from Mt Gox right? Bitcoins at ~430$?

Wipe can we get ur twitter?

>>15349
>I had read
fuck off with your anecdotal evidence, cock socket

>>15349
the last major winter storm we saw natgas fall

this one, it's rising. what's up?

Also

HAPPY VALENTINES DAY EVERYONE!!

Hope you all have a Q T 3.14 to snuggle with today

>>15361
I have a Stocktwits account

http://stocktwits.com/Always_Wipe

>>15363
I thought there were at like 1.1K at one time.. lol

>>15363
HAHAHAHAHA

>>15370
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/technology/bitcoin-losing-its-currency-as-bans-criminal-links-bite/story-e6frgakx-1226822950577#mm-premium

>>15371
It initially rose because of the "Polar Vortex". But these prices are unsustainable..

>>15376
>63% drop in a month
It's almost like a penny stock haha

>>15363
Gee, it's like accountability DOES count for something.. or something.

>>15349
Nah you don't fool anyone.
These posts are your position:
>>14570
>>14878
>>14955

And this is you backpedalling:
>>15026

Keep trying to brush it off.
Maybe in a few threads people will have forgotten about it.

>>15349
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-12-05/china-s-pboc-bans-financial-companies-from-bitcoin-transactions.html
You should take the time to give sources, or else
>>15370
that happens.

Like I said earlier, only people who do not comply with the law afterwards IF such a law was to be passed would be punished. All that means is that the FBI might know who is doing it. Some people will have to reduce their gains and sell off immediately, IF such a thing occurs. That means others won't magically get transported to jail

You can dance around all you like about it when it does happen, though.

So I'm gonna have about $1k more to put into my trading account in a couple of days; what's the play here guys?

>>15363
mt. gox is irrelevant

>>15408
but the banning of banks to deal in bitcoin is not a bad thing. I love how you guys spread FUD without even knowing it.

>>15405
Wipe, man, it looks like you have a stalker or two.

This is getting a bit creepy. Can you idiots just stay on topic?

>>15408
I posted a source here

>>15383

>>15405
Then go look at this chart posted here and tell me this is a sound investment
>>15376

I've asked you countless times to provide evidence for a positive position on Bitcoin. You're the one evading.

>>15427
It's fine. Online people are typically abrasive due to lack of accountability. I can only try to respond and seek a resolution.

>>15421
>mt. gox is irrelevant
Full denial in process here folks.

>>15423
>1K
Depends on if you're a gambling man or an investor

>>15421
>mt. gox is irrelevant

weren't they always first with the price?

>>15405

Y'know in 24hrs this thread will be gone and no one will give a fuck?

>>15449
lol yes

and the largest btc exchange

oh but, NOW they're irrelevant. rrrrrright.

>>15440
denial of what exactly? that buy support on mt. gox is shit because of their fuckups? look at the volume.

>>15440
At 1k, let's say I'm a gambling man.

And give me the investor spiel too.

>>15450
Is appeal to nihilism a logical fallacy? It really should be.

>>15470
just buy a million of your fave penny stock shares bro

>>15470
>1K
You could throw it all in DGAZ whenever it bottoms out and hope for Nat Gas to correct, giving around 20-30% in profits in a short time

>Investor spiel
You could list some companies you're interested in and I'm certain you'll get some feedback from the board. Long term investment only

>>15476
I should be.Very parallel to the "slippery slope" argument.

>>15376
>>15363
The fact that you use Mt.Gox as an indicator of Bitcoin value is basically proof that you are a fucking noob at this and need to lurk more.

>>15509
What should we use? Your personal chart of what you think Bitcoin should be worth instead of the largest Bitcoin trading platform?

>>15509

Not really.

>>15509
The fact that you're in such denial over this proves you're a BTC bagholder and you're sore as fuck about it.

>>15463
Educate yourself please, you have no idea what is currently going on at Mt.Gox.

Mt.Gox is not representative for the price in ANY way.

>>15516
>>15518
>>15521
I Don't own a single BTC, I mine and dumb alt currencies.

Want to know why nobodies buying bitcoin at MtGox right now? Read this
http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/2014/02/10/mt-gox-blames-bitcoin-core-developer-greg-maxwell-responds/

>>15523
>>15509
Full damage control guys.

>>15509
The collapse of a major exchange doesn't send any warning signals?

>>15540
Hope you're buying the dip then

Yeah, mt gox isn't currently THE price of bitcoins due to... The limits on withdrawal for whatever reason... But that makes me leary. What's to stop that from happening somewhere else?

>>15552
Allow me to repeat myself, i don't buy BTC, i never bought any.
I mine altcurrencies and dump them on the exchange when they raise in value.

>>15554
The other major exchanges have software that isn't programmed poorly enough to allow for transaction malleability

>>15565
Ah, what setup do you use? I just bought dual 290x AMD gpus for my main rig at home. I always wondered what kind of mining it could do.

>InB4 accusations of me entering Cyptocurrency market

I'm just curious since we all know once we get new setups we want to push them.

>tfw no new Cysis to melt our rigs/push limits

>>15540
Sounds like someone took the cash bag and ran.

>>15577
That's a fuckload of hashpower. You'd be able to strip mine new coins for a long time.

>>15613
So all you do is wait for new currency, mine it while its fresh, then dump it? Sounds like an amazing plan. You should keep it to yourself though. In case of imitators

>>15597
Sure seems like it

>>15626
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=458906.0

>>15626
You don't have to act so aggressive because you had to ask about the hashing ability of your rig and thereby expose a gap in your faggy complexion

>>15644
>https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=458906.0
Lol that's horrible. I wonder if they will get slammed for this. The SEC would have a field day if this happened with such blatancy.

>>15655
Nice dubs

Woah, what a turnaround.

>>15691
Requesting overlay with other black day crashes

>>15691
Turnaround in what??

It... It's happening?

>>15738
What is?

>>15762
You know, IT!

>>15774
It as in the happening
¿¿

>>14842
>>14836
>/biz/ should start having a daily market thread

Sounds like a plan.

>>15691
Sorry, that was meant for another thread. Didn't mean to spook ya.

>>15762
It's too late already

>>15783
Then we shall do it. Should we continue using POLSE or should we create a new Marketwatch game?

>>15784
Ah...

Can anyone explain Flat Capacity Strategy to me?

>>15792
we didnt listen

>>15793

The /biz/ game would make the most sense. I don't think we need another one for these threads. I will continue the polse game nonetheless.

http://www.marketwatch.com/game/biz-game-

>>15345

;_;7 NOOOOO

>>15813
>http://www.marketwatch.com/game/biz-game-

Password?

>>15825
merchant
here's the thread:
>>>7301

>>15825

merchant

bump

any hot success today

>>15834
>merchant
>>15831


Thank you, just joined now. Going all in!!!

>>15996
Nah, I'm pretty much red today...

>>16015
my chinese drug stores are doing well

but that's about it lol

>>16098
CJJD and NPD

cheap

bought into them thinking about the flu scares in asia right now

>>16072
>Chinese drug stores
[Wanting to know intensifies]

>>16110
Nice gains on that CJJD...

That 5 year is one wild dump though

anybody buy cow or jo, or any other of the non-gold commodity trackers?

>>16167
eh, they're chinese stocks so there's certainly some degree of fraud and shadiness

speaking of.. CTRP yesterday was awesome

>>16175
I've been playing DGAZ and UGAZ recently.

>>16220
I need to start looking into Chinese stocks I guess

What's the minimum bankroll I should start off with, if I don't want commission and brokerage fees to kill me?

>>16478
Minimum? 1,5K and only trade 1-2 stocks

Anyone else banking on 3D Systems (DDD) rebounding after its earlier drop?

It has two deals now with Hershey and Hasbro. It reporting higher R&D costs but i'm thinking this will pay out in the long run

>>16613
Nope. Only 3D play I see is ONVO because of endless speculation. It's a boiler room pump from what I've been told.

I think 3D printers are going to go the way of the Segway

dgaz going back green

IT'S HAPPENING

>>17077
We moved to this thread anon

>>16055

Who $TSLA here?
I hope it settles +200 today

>>17077
nice dubs

I'm currently in ARIA for a neat little sum. Anyone have an informed opinion on holding it til monday?

>>15345
>falling for the PCYC pump scheme

The Schlomo who recommended that to you people sold out long ago.

>we finally got a board

Wow, I wouldn't have even noticed if it wasn't for the new catalog option being highlighted.

>>16640
>Only 3D play I see is ONVO because of

because you're a faggot

Thoughts on the prospects for General Motors? Just dumped my Santander position to buy in.

>>18891
>dumped my Santander position to buy in.
Please explain, I was considering buying in some time next week. I thought the temporary EM shitfit was over. And those dividends.

>>18963
I think long-run it's a good hold. I bought in July at $6.45 or so. Generally once I make over a 30% return I take some gains. Dividend is good as well but I was previously holding a large number of financials so I'm just re-adjusting some of my holdings.

BUY - EPHE - iShares - get rich quick while volatility is still around

Just poppin in to say welcome Wipe! We did it!

I was there with you from the start, the polse games, the q requests denied.

Anyway cheers mate, good work.