/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>15286740
Leave, apmex shill

>>15286740
strictly silver. buy some 90% junk silver, bullion bars of all sizes under 100 oz, silver eagle rounds, poured silver bars. Just diversify the fuck out of silver.

>>15286740
Second "buy" is redundant

Do silver hoarders ever even cash out?

>>15286764
Whats the point of diversification the same metal

>>15286771
faggot and/or faggot

>>15286740
Buy silver and/or gold.

>>15286802
No. You see, a stacker's mentality is that the economy will only become worse every time so they're paranoid that silver/gold will become even more valuable in the future.

To a stacker a recession or even an economic collapse is ALWAYS around the corner. They will never sell be it $100/oz or $1000/oz silver.

>>15286740
OP, you can chase the inflation dream, or you can buy silver when its ratio to gold is really high like it is now and trade it for AU when the ratio goes to 40/1, or you can be a non autist and sell for more S&P500 when the time comes.

>>15286740
you buy platinum instead.

>>15286944
90% junk coins are the pretty mucI the smallest denomination of silver you can get and is what will be used if the dollar goes to shit. Bullion bars are a store of wealth and eagles are collectors items that appreciate in value. Poured bars are retarded though.

>>15286740
buy eth

>>15287242
>eagles are collectors items
>40 million produced in 2019
im a huge pm shill but ases are boomer tier shit, they are collectible at best, and thus will only retain the premium if sold to another collector. So most coin shops MIGHT give you $1 over spot for an ase when usually its spot or $1 under you sell to them. Generic will be spot at best, or under. Most ases are 2.5-3 over spot to begin with, so you will have to wait longer to get back to alpha.

75% silver 25% gold anon

Not good investment. it doesn't provide a Consistent Cash Flow

>>15286802
>>15286969

You're working in teams now are you?

How's Tel Aviv this time of year?

>>15286764
Strictly silver? Nigga what the fuck. The only people buying strictly silver are poor motherfuckers. OP has 10k to blow.
OP go at least 60% gold and hold that shut for a decade or two. These silverbugs need to go back to mommy’s basement.

Unironically you should go 100% into silver. The current silver to gold ratio is a completely out of whack 80 to 1. Historically this is 16 to 1 because thats the ratio each comes out of the earths crust. So you buy all silver, wait for that ratio to narrow to 30 to 1 then take your silver to a coin shop and swap for gold to get a bunch of free ounces of gold that you otherwise woldnt have gotten if you buy all gold now. Gold is undervalued but silver is the most undervalued asset on planet earth

Now the only problem is....if we have a overnight gold revaluation you prob wont have a chance to swap your silver for gold because as soon as gold shoots up one morning to like 20k/oz and silver is at like 1k/oz all coin shops will immediately shut down.

So I would actually buy 2 ounces of gold and the rest silver which would be like 400 ounces and 400 ounces of silver is PLENTY.

Remember a days wage used to be a silver piece the size of a silver dime for most of human history. And still is even today in much of the world where some chink is making 2$/day which is right in line with historical economic sanity since that 2$ can be exchanged for a silver dime at a coin shop.

14 silver dimes equals one ounce of silver. So for each ounce of silver you buy you are effectively locking up 2 weeks worth of days wages when it all collapses.

>>15287239
Ultra woke mf-er
Check out mene . Com my man

>>15288304
You sound like a fucking boomer Youtube video. This ratio shit has been being peddled the last 10 years. I remember when silver shot up to $50 an ounce and all the silver bugsbsaid ‘are, told you so! It’s only going to keep going up and up and up we’re gonna be rich!’ And then it fucking dropped back to normal. And it’s been radio silence from the silver community for 10 years. I get you guys are excited, but don’t try to force feed the kool aid to others who aren’t as gullible.
Many countries are buying gold by the tons waiting for USD to collapse. By 2025 USA will be 30trillion in debt. By then, we will not even be able to pay regular interest on this debt. Immigration to USA and Europe is going to continue and keep increasing. More welfare being given out. Automation displacing jobs by the millions. Gold will hold your wealth. Silver is for larpers hoping for Fallout videogame to be real.

Where could you cash out? Pawn shops don’t even give 50% of going price

when the collapse comes, only two things will matter
power
and porn
I suggest you divvy your 10k out like so
$5k on guns and ammo
$5k on cute sexy anime figurines

>>15288370
Stop being such a self important faggot. 10 years is a NOTHING timeframe in the grand scheme of things. Its two fucking college cycles basically. The reason it dropped back down is because the USD is the world reserve currency and the Fed still had bullets to fire and comex manipulating it down.

You think there is no reason that the ratio is currently an obscene 80 to 1?

And yes, tons of east countries are buying gold and america/jpmorgan have shit tons of silver.

Re-value gold to 30k/oz with a deal in place that silver goes back to its historical ratio with gold and then you have a clean reset

>>15288403
You dont cash out fuckhead. You buy for real assets for a penny on the dollar. The entire point of buying gold and silver is because the dollar is a fraud. Probably transfer to the new currency though. Or maybe dollars if there is a window where you can sell for cash and buy land or property instantly but i doubt that will be possible

>>15288436
No the entire point is to save whatever wealth you have from a depreciating currency, once it stabilizes you cash out so you can actually buy things you need

>>15288163

Based schizo crypto shill

>>15288436

the dollar is a talisman you uncultured specimen

>>15286740

someone on this board said that silver coins are/were the original shitcoins so what's with all the silver shilling are you finding your new clientele for the season

>>15286802
we are like Digimarines, only more devoted

>>15287357
>muh cash flow
Cash will soon be flowing from crypto and all other equities into silver. Buy now or stay pleb.

>>15286740

Listen to me.

Do NOT buy over $10,000.00 in one transaction.

You will be put on a LOT of IRS lists.

Split up your purchases over 2 or 3 weeks.

Title 31 Niggas.

>>15286740
buy gold etfs, wait for the crash, sell, buy stocks at rock bottom. You fuckers make things too complicated

>>15288645
Even if you spread put your purchases the IRS will still investigate you. Just buy and don't be a pussy.

>>15287294
So what do you stack?

>>15288645

are you preaching the practice of smurfing?

>>15288645
i make my mom buy some

my gf buy some even my ittle brothers buy some

everyone about 3k will i be safe?

>>15288679
ETFs are held by banks, if the banks go down with the rest of the economy the ETF disappears. Physical metals are the only assets without counterparty risk.

>>15288724
Im talking about gold etfs of actual gold hold in switzerland. Those fuckers have hundred-year-old reputation of storing stuff safely. Thats why they dont engage in wars as well. They would not risk losing that kind of reputation for nothing.

Also, if the banking system collapses the way you are predicting, your best investment is unironically canned food and AR-15s.

>>15288370
The market has been manipulated for decades.

In days of yore the gold price was literally dictated by the Rothschilds. That's how bad things were.

Imagine how much you could make in a week from trading if you dictated the price of the worlds most important asset.

The Rothschilds has this for 200 years.

Do you really think they let this power slip from their hands?

>>15289005
alians need gold to stabilize the atmosphere of their home planet nibaru. It comes every few thousand years, they were the ones that messed with our dna and basically created humans. They put this desire in us to want gold so we would harvest all the gold so it would be ready for them the next time nibaru comes back around again. Humans cant help but love gold, its in our DNA.

>>15288645
That’s why you go private wholesale. Find a coin dealer or shop owner. Wire them directly.

>>15289005
In my line of work, we call this ‘delusions of grandeur’.

>>15289280

>>15287294
ASE's are trusted. Generic rounds are questionable, no one tests one once rounds

>>15289280
>>15289390
Pure cohencidence huh.

>>15286740
Got to store and buy the metals

>>15289433
gee, money controls the world, and banks control the money and who controls the banks...?

>>15288468

>>15289476
Jews

What do you guys think of Philharmonics? Is the higher purity of the Maple gonna matter if we're ever in the situation where we're selling it to be melted industrially? Also whats the best way to buy small amounts of silver for cheap? I cant do 500+ ounces to be able to buy at less than a dollar over spot

>>15289066
so how many $/oz will the Aliens buy gold from us?

>>15289699
Phils are one of the best government issued coins out there, with one of the lowest above spot prices among coins. The only cheaper I can think of is Silver Krugerrands.

And because Phils are government issue, you can sell at spot price or a bit higher.

>>15289280
In my line of work we're taught to check facts and 'The London Gold Fix' will reveal to you that Rothschild banks fixed the price of PMs.

Happy Hanukkah though.

>>15290144
They’re just gonna take it.

>>15289066
Checked. Based and truthpilled

just go out in the yard and pick up a bunch of rocks. its basically the same thing

>>15290437
>They’re just gonna take it
but we have guns..

>>15290450
wow where do you live that your yard have a bunch of gold and silver laying around?

>>15286969
Imagine actually living your life this way

>>15290517
Many preppers and stackers live with a mentality like that

>>15286969
"Listen to me goy! I'm one of you!"

>>15291341
I never said you guys are wrong. I'm just saying that you guys will never sell even if there is a recession/depression and the silver price is extremely high due to never ending paranoia that it could get even worse.

Pure, pure delusion in this thread. Silver is going to $5 and gold is headed back < $1000. Dumb kids. Its in a huge bubble right now.

>>15288370
gold silver monero and firearms - the chadfolio

>>15286740
Buy silver and gold? Are you a retard?

>>15290455
>guns
I'm sure they'll hold up against their atomic photon rays. I'm sure they'll pierce the space titanium their ships are made of. Im sure they'll penetrate their portable force fields they carry on their waists.

>>15291541
Hell yea bro. I am putting 50% of my money into collateralized debt obligations that are bundled into derivatives and then rebundled into derivatives and then rebundled into even more derivatives. These derivatives are held by banks all over the world, so you know they are rock solid investments. Banks have never mismanaged their funds in all of human history. The other 50% I am putting into negative yielding 100 year government bonds. All of these shiny rocks fags are going to wish they were as investment savy as me. Gold and silver will eventually be revalued to nothing, since they have never been a historic store of value and have no industrial uses. Plus with alchemy you can turn iron into gold if your magic skill is high enough, meaning there is an infinite supply of gold.

Have ~20oz gold, should I get 400 oz silver as well and just wait 10 years for the financial collapse (first) and climate collapse next?

>>15290144
source on pic? wtf

Jesus Christ the OZ price of gold went up 29% from this time last year.
Should I buy now?

>>15291541
you're the kinda guy who goes to a convenience store after a disaster and is surprised there isn't bread milk or eggs

>>15292719
boston marathon bombing

>>15292347
>implying
how do you know? Are you an alien?

stupid motherfucker

>>15292740
>cad
oh my

IS THE ICE CUBE TEST THE MOST RELIABLE?

>>15293108
No, the taste test is. now stop asking this question.

>>15293106
Happy now?

>>15292410
Don't forget that pretty soon NASA is going to send a million man army to Mars in order to mine all of that worthless gold and silver, bruh.

>>15293140
no. I am now very angry

>>15293152
Why's that?

>>15293164
I wanted to fuck your mother but then I realized that I am gay so I can't fuck your mother

grr..

>>15293174
Maybe lay off the booze.

>>15293140
its at like all time high in your currency
your miners should be very happy and their stock should be gaining faster than gold

>>15293268
Like you wouldn't believe.
Fucking territorials are rolling in green.

>>15293319
i dont know what to tell you, i stopped around 1350, but i had other things going on also. but it doesnt look like things are going to get better anytime soon economically. Gold is a barometer of the strength of the system. How do you feel about that system? Thats the reason to buy gold or not.

>>15293083
Trust me I just know these things. Screen cap it so you can re read it every time the aliens probe you without putting you to sleep.

>>15288436
>You don't cash out
this is a crypto meme kek

>>15293378
>so you can re read it every time the aliens probe you without putting you to sleep
what if the alien don't let me turn on the computer while they probe me

>>15291371
this is the same mentality as crypto it's really weird. So many threads saying "I'm not selling" and "worthless fiat"
PM is just boomer crypto so what's your point? You could probably sell half your stack of it goes to 50 or 100 an oz just like crypto and reinvest.
It's basically arguing with people who love crypto.
Just got into silver too so I'm not knocking PMs. I just think it's funny how its the same mentality but people are arguing this or that is better.

>>15293557
>So many threads saying "I'm not selling"
Mostly a link meme

>PM is just boomer crypto
No people mostly treat PM's as a store of wealth and a hedge. Most people meanwhile treat crypto as a get rich quick scheme.

Anyways, I never talked about crypto so this whole conversation was not needed.

>>15293509
...you're not a based phone poster like me? I'm sorry anon...

>>15292719
Pressure cooker malfunction and exploded

>>15293901
they let you use phones??

What type of Silver should I buy? People seem not to like bullion, why is this? Also I live in Australia, if that changes anything.

>>15293595
Link marines isn't the only hold meme, I've been lurking for awhile on this board. I'm saying the mentality is the same here on biz, not irl. Crypto can be a get rich quick scheme but a lot of anons believe in it, much like gold/silver, as real currency or replacing fiat currency.
I'm pointing out it's retarded the point you're trying to make because you wont change anyone's mind arguing about "why are you buying x?"
If you read my post im pointing out the parallels of what anons think of PMs and crypto and how similar they are posting about it.
Don't reply if it wasted so much of your time especially if you were the anon trying to genuinely understand the mentality of PMfags. your post was retarded from the get go.

>>15295187
American Eagles.

>>15286740
Dont. Buy literally anything else.

>>15290169
austrian anon here, that shit gets printed not far away
philharmonics are fucking expensive compared to other coins in my own country
I have some but not gonna stack more
no knurling on the side which is ugly as fuck
I am stickign with the athen owls and kangaroos

>>15288304
>Unironically you should go 100% into silver. The current silver to gold ratio is a completely out of whack 80 to 1.


I wouldnt go into silver as long as the rtatio isnt above 100.

Just bc. the risk isnt worth it.

The silver gold ratio is on avg. is at 50 the last 120 years..
Buying silver at this ratio ( 80 ) and if you sell it at the avg ratio ( 50 ) would give you just a to less percentage
to be even worth to talk about

>>15288468
>y-you're just a schizo

every time

>>15295187
Perth Mint coins or bars are a good buy

>>15286740

Opionion: it's too late to buy silver / gold, buy the stock dips.

>>15297700

What the fuck? You're supposed to buy gold and silver and keep it as a part of your portfolio either way.

>>15296750
fair point

>>15286764
Why junk silver?

>>15287004
What should the ratio be? Gold is pretty limited

>>15296338
Really? That's interesting.

I guess Philharmonics are cheap in America to remain competitive with Silver Eagles and Maples.

>>15298441
junk silver is primarily liked by people that are preparing for shtf scenarios where bartering becomes the norm. Small amounts of silver = high liquidity and the coins are well known so they are trustworthy.

Anyways, dirty silver has a pretty low premium (some place just sell spot price) so some investors like them too. But not many because dirty silver is heavy and take a lot of space. Most that don't care about prepping for SHTF just get bullion.

>>15298459
probably the same like the VW cars
way more expensive in germany than in US
otherwise they wouldn't sell any
+ germans are gladfully to get ripped off since they buy GERMAN PREMIUM QUALITY CARS

fuck, the last thing I buy is VW, SEAT, Skoda today, not better than japs and koreans for those prices

>>15298561
It's like that in any country. Usually the domestic cars are the most expensive because they take their domestic customers as easy while foreign customers as hard customers that need to be won over by competitive pricing.