/biz/ - Business & Finance

Newfag here:
How many do I need?
How do I into staking?
Are you not concerned that the volume has tanked in the last 24hrs?

>>15273286

I think a few million SENT are the minimum to comfortably be able to buy the beach house, small yacht and porsche next year

Staking will start after the Sentinel hub mainnet in Q4 this year

I'm not concerned, it was just because of some crazy fudders here yesterday, refreshing biz every second and copy pasting same fud comments non stop to try to buy cheap SENT

>>15273242

Is SENT better than LINK?

>>15273339
800M MC or 10M MC

>>15273360

Yeah I know, I'm LINK whale myself, I asked in terms of growth/return potential from now

>>15273242
>Team is over 30 top devs that would make the devs teams of Google or Amazon feel envy
Turn it down, shill, they're mostly typical code monkeys doing really weird mistakes in the code.
>Team has been constantly delivering and adding code in github throughout the bear market
Two months of no commit on experimental/dev branch and a year of no commits on the branch they're deploying to users.

Let's be fair, you have no idea of SENT has real users. Users on any network can easily be faked, and it unfortunately happens all the time in the tech world.

And SENT going to "low" volume is an understatement. It was completely dead, a few thousand in bot trades a day. Nothing has changed fundamentally about the project as far as I can tell. The only thing that changed is that on July 11th a shill army came to /biz/, Reddit, and a number of other crypto forums and started scheming people into putting money in. It was OBVIOUSLY coordinated, you'd have to be a total brainlet to not understand that.

Whether or not SENT is a real project I don't even care, the use case is paltry. It has no long term chance at survival, and the recent price action absolutely STINKING of PnD doesn't help it in my eyes.

That plus the volume is still embarrassingly low. Any real money in will be hard to get out if this price action continues at this amount of volume. The real fear is that volume dies off and you're literally stuck for another 2 years with not even being able to sell. That opportunity cost is high because you will, in the meantime, miss out on plenty of solid tokens & coins continuing their upwards trajectory.

Anyway, you do you, but for me the SENT risks vastly outweigh the potential rewards, and not being able to put in more than $1,000 or so without worrying about if I'll get my money back even after a pump makes it multiple levels beneath my stack grade.

Good luck to those of you chasing the pump, I hope you come out on top, but for me this is a hard pass.

>>15273402
Bro, a lot of code is private until certain releases, don't be so naive

What weird mistakes in the code? Please show some proof, don't just talk

>>15273419

Very bad, you were too slow today, several people replied here before your copy paste fud post, very disappointed

>>15273419

Fuck off already with your retarded copy paste fud

>>15273441
>Bro, a lot of code is private until certain releases
Which makes it even more suspect. "Here, run this code you can't see, it's private, we swear"
>What weird mistakes in the code?
Routing thru OpenDNS (logs and sells your queries BTW)
No obvious network sandboxing anywhere and when asked devs kept quiet (in the worst case this may mean random people having access to your LAN)
Using easyrsa defaults to generate keypairs (fairly weak and absolutely not recommended)
Hard dependence on the keypair and logfile being where the code expects it to be, without any integrity verification (worst case scenario any node can drop its own keypair and MITM you, or people get infinite free bandwidth by overwriting ovpn logs)
"Enforced enceyption" is really only the program looking at a line in the logfile
This also needs them to use verbose logging, which is obviously not great
They also aren't encrypting your DNS queries, probably cause they don't know how

Thinking of getting out and jumping over to RSR 2bh

>>15273339
nope

only have 200k will i make it

>>15273479

Of course it is private until release, otherwise people could just copy fast before they even release, etc.

This really shows me how retarded you are. People use bitcoin and BTC miners earn block rewards and transaction fees. Bitcoin miners dont give a fuck whether bitcoin code is not perfect, have some small bugs or some issues like scalability etc, as long as people use bitcoin and they get block rewards they are happy.

Same with SENT staking token, even with all your complaints it is still way better than any of the centralised VPNs like NordVPN, in which you just shift trust from ISP to them. This means that even if the Sentinel hub had only the dVPN zone (which is not true, there will be dChat and other zones too), the traffic from dVPN users and the block rewards would indeed make SENT holders very happy

You are just a tech nerd and you understand nothing about staking tokens and investment

>>15273521

Yes, that's why LINK whales now are buying SENT and new photos next year will be lambos with SENT logo

>>15273242
Pathetic SENT shills. Buy SNTVT if you really want to be a millionaire.

>>15273534

I think 1 or 2 million SENT is the minimum

>>15273441
>>15273447
>>15273465
>>15273479
>>15273521
>>15273534
>>15273547
>>15273563
Let's be fair, you have no idea of SENT has real users. Users on any network can easily be faked, and it unfortunately happens all the time in the tech world.

And SENT going to "low" volume is an understatement. It was completely dead, a few thousand in bot trades a day. Nothing has changed fundamentally about the project as far as I can tell. The only thing that changed is that on July 11th a shill army came to /biz/, Reddit, and a number of other crypto forums and started scheming people into putting money in. It was OBVIOUSLY coordinated, you'd have to be a total brainlet to not understand that.

Whether or not SENT is a real project I don't even care, the use case is paltry. It has no long term chance at survival, and the recent price action absolutely STINKING of PnD doesn't help it in my eyes.

That plus the volume is still embarrassingly low. Any real money in will be hard to get out if this price action continues at this amount of volume. The real fear is that volume dies off and you're literally stuck for another 2 years with not even being able to sell. That opportunity cost is high because you will, in the meantime, miss out on plenty of solid tokens & coins continuing their upwards trajectory.

Anyway, you do you, but for me the SENT risks vastly outweigh the potential rewards, and not being able to put in more than $1,000 or so without worrying about if I'll get my money back even after a pump makes it multiple levels beneath my stack grade.

Good luck to those of you chasing the pump, I hope you come out on top, but for me this is a hard pass.

>>15273581

SNTVT? is that your new pills? lol

>>15273593

Fuck you, stop spamming this thread with your retarded copy pasted fud, it's spammed twice here already

>>15273593

So annoying this spam

>>15273547
>it is still way better than any of the centralised VPNs like NordVPN
No, in it's current state, it's much worse. Again, your entire browsing history is logged and sold.
>there will be dChat and other zones too
Yes, which is why I'm not saying anything about those, because I'm not qualified enough to criticize their code. However, decentralized chat is already widely used elsewhere.
>You are just a tech nerd and you understand nothing about staking tokens and investment
I don't care. If you actually read my replies, you would see I never criticized the token or it's use. What I'm concerned about is them selling "privacy" while leaking data.

>>15273625

Lol, VPNs can stop encryption whenever they want, dVPNs like Sentinel no because if any node tries to stop encryption they are automatically rejected from the network

Then don't fud Sentinel as if it was only a dVPN if you are aware it is a lot more than that

You don't care? I'm sure you do, everyone loves money and getting rich, you are just lying. Also, learn how to write in english, it is 'its use" not "it's use", it hurts my eyes reading your pajeet english

>>15273656
>Lol, VPNs can stop encryption whenever they want,
That's an outright lie. Encryption happens on your machine, and the cipher used is transparently reported by the program - this is actually the exact same thing sent uses to "enforce" it. If a remote server stopped accepting encrypted data, your data would still reach it encrypted and safe, it just wouldn't be able to process it and tunnel you.

>Then don't fud Sentinel as if it was only a dVPN if you are aware it is a lot more than that
A valid criticism of a central part of a service is not fud and should be called out.

>Also, learn how to write in english, it is 'its use" not "it's use"
Android autocorrect. But you're right, I'm an European, so ESL. Quite pathetic that you have to resort to name calling when presented with facts, though.

>>15273680

Lier, then why VPNs sell data to governments whenever they want? I don't trust any VPN companies controlled by Facebook subsidiaries likely or the governments themselves

Your criticism is invalid when even with that criticism dVPNs are still safer and not requiring trust from users like in the case of VPNs

Yes, I heard that excuse before. I did not resort to name calling but to facts: your poor english is a fact and can be seen in this thread

>>15273680

Android autocorrect lol

>>15273721
>Lier, then why VPNs sell data to governments whenever they want?
That's not an issue of stopping encryption, that's an issue of using MITM or logging metadata. Both of which are currently issues on Sent network as well. The bottom line is to use a provider you can trust, or set up your own.

>Your criticism is invalid
Citation needed.

>when even with that criticism dVPNs are still safer and not requiring trust from users like in the case of VPNs
That's not true. I already told you how current Sent infrastructure can be abused to log data about you, except instead of one point of failure, you now have 5 or however many hops you do. And you have to trust none of them are compromised or honeypots. Also, you have to trust their as of now closed relay. Do you actually know how a VPN works? Be honest.

>your poor english is a fact and can be seen in this thread
You just wrote "lier", you don't have much of a place to criticize typos.

>>15273788

"The bottom line is to use a provider you can trust" haha, you are so cute and naive. You can't trust any centralized VPN, that's the whole point for dVPNs to exist

I don't need to know the details, what I know is that Sentinel dVPN is used and trusted in middle east countries for example. Once some dVPN sell user data to governments like VPNs do then come back with your fud

Haha, you are so easily manipulated, I wanted to see how much butthurted you were from your "the token or it's use", if it was an android autocorrect you wouldn't be triggered so easily

>>15273836
So basically you have no idea what you're talking about and just regurgitating some nonsense. Well, okay, have fun having your data sold to Cisco and resold to data brokers. Everyone who actually knows how encryption and tunnelling works can clearly see why the current implementation is dangerous.

Also it's butthurt, not butthurted. That's not proper past tense. At least I can actually admit being an ESL, though.

>>15273852

Hahah your butt is really purple, jesus. It's ok if you speak pajeet english, just don't blame it to android autocorrect

Do you understand we are interested in Sentinel because of the SENT staking token potential to makes us rich? I don't really care about the use case, what I care about is whether it will pump and be a successful token

Damn, you are such a tech nerd, I'm sure you never heard what company shares are

>>15273891
>It's ok if you speak pajeet english, just don't blame it to android autocorrect
Slav English. And it's "blame it on android autocorrect". Not to.

>I don't really care about the use case
Then why are you arguing about it? If you were at least a bit smart, you would realize that successful adoption and deployment would make the token worth more. Fucking it up from the get go won't.

But OK, since you don't know anything about the tech behind it, and don't care about mass adoption, we are prettyjch done here. Just keep in mind that if they won't fix their horribly written shit, the audits are going to plummet the token worth.

>>15273937

Hahahaha pajeet got his butt red

Do you even understand what is a staking token and how it captures value? Let's start from the basics

>>15273969

Yeah that nerd doesn't even know what a staking token is lol

>>15273969
>s-staking is going to save the value!!!!!
Yeah, just like it did for all the rest of the coins, eh?
Fucking Gridcoin is POS, and look at it's value, brainlet. Sage, come back when you know anything about what you're shilling.

>>15273479
Are you a programmer? These are fairly noted weakpoints and kinda make de devs look like dweebs.

As soon as I saw atom rank 14 on cmc it was so predictable a biz squad would jump on SENT. Fking pnd shills never change

>>15274524
I don't code actively, but I can read code. Especially since half of it is just in an .ovpn config and basic bash commands.
https://github.com/sentinel-official/dvpn-node/tree/development/vpn/open_vpn

>>15274520

Idiot, the first BPoS staking token that is not a scam or a vulnerable/naive version of PoS is Atom, and then SENT, IRIS, DOT, etc. You are entering in my filed idiot, don't try to seem smart about staking token when you don't even understand the basics.

Do you know anything about long range attacks, nothing at stake problem and other issues that the naive PoS implementations had since 2013 until a mature BPoS was launched recently with the Cosmos hub.

fucking retard, I feel embarrass for you, what an ignorant

>>15274524

What weak points? It's just a list of lies he wrote, he has not proven anything he is claiming

>>15274654

Retard, most of the hub code, relay net, wireguard, etc is not released yet, raise your IQ a bit please, it's disgusting

>>15274539

>>15275070
>I know, I'll point out that we can trust it because they're running closed code no one can see, that will make people trust it!
Doesn't even matter, because it runs on the configs from github. Sit your ass down.

>>15275126

it is a free testnet dVPN at the moment RETARD!!!! Once mainnet is launched in Q4 all code will be open source and community members hosting nodes will be able to monetize their unused bandwidth and SENT holders will be able to stake and earn rewards,

Jesus, do you have a brain?

>>15275156
>it's okay goyim, trust it, it's free and in test phase, don't mind that even the barest basics are misconfigured, nothing to see here
You're too retarded to talk about networking, I'm done with you, have fun shitposting 4 posts in a row to yourself.

>>15275182

Do you understand the meaning of TESTNET? It is to TEST the product and network getting ready for Q4 mainnet. But even in this phase Sentinel is providing a free dVPN in google playstore, windows, etc., that is FREE and SAFER than the centralized VPN subscription you are paying

>>15275182

They offer a free product for now better than your NordVPN subscription and you complain? go kys

Jyes surs pls buy surs!!

>>15275284
I don't know what NordVPN does because they're trash, but I'm sure they don't route your entire browsing history thru Cisco at least. Riddle me this, how is your browsing private if your DNS queries are logged and sold?

>>15273242
>sent over etc
lmao

>>15275305

Even if what you said was true (which isn't), nodes are not controlled by a profit making entity with shareholders, but by community members all over the world

Say a government wants to get your data, there is no central VPN company to call, the sentinel team and office is anonymous and also even if they managed to find some community members hosting nodes, thanks to the relay net community members hosting nodes will be also safe from this

>>15275334

Well said

>>15275339
>sent shill dodging questions again
Like clockwork with you people.

>>15275386

Tell me what is the Sybil attack resistance mechanism in Sentinel hub and its consensus?

>>15275446
I have no idea, and I'm man enough to admit it, unlike you.
And how exactly is that related to the network config we were talking about? Stop shifting the goalposts. You were the one replying to me telling me they are "better than NordVPN". Back it up or come out as a shill.

>>15275471

Lol. Feel sorry for you, if you don't understand the basics of blockchain consensus and Sybil resistance then why do you even try to discuss about Sentinel hub??

Be a real man and learn first before trying to teach!!

>>15275486
Because it's not relevant to networking. Now stop dodging the question, you brought it up, now you're trying to run away from it.
Typical sent shill.

>>15275514

You don't ignore my questions, you just said you have no clue how to answer hahahah

Sentinel hub is a blockchain project, the dVPN just a small part of it, a zone.

You focus on criticizing just the dVPN because you have no clue how blockchain works LOL

Do you at least know how bitcoin work? HAHAHAHA

>>15275087
Wow amazing image, just bought 100k

>>15273242
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA congrats anon thats the fucking pageetist meme I ever have seen. I would assume parody if your desperation wasn't so obvious.

Let's be fair, you have no idea of SENT has real users. Users on any network can easily be faked, and it unfortunately happens all the time in the tech world.

And SENT going to "low" volume is an understatement. It was completely dead, a few thousand in bot trades a day. Nothing has changed fundamentally about the project as far as I can tell. The only thing that changed is that on July 11th a shill army came to /biz/, Reddit, and a number of other crypto forums and started scheming people into putting money in. It was OBVIOUSLY coordinated, you'd have to be a total brainlet to not understand that.

Whether or not SENT is a real project I don't even care, the use case is paltry. It has no long term chance at survival, and the recent price action absolutely STINKING of PnD doesn't help it in my eyes.

That plus the volume is still embarrassingly low. Any real money in will be hard to get out if this price action continues at this amount of volume. The real fear is that volume dies off and you're literally stuck for another 2 years with not even being able to sell. That opportunity cost is high because you will, in the meantime, miss out on plenty of solid tokens & coins continuing their upwards trajectory.

Anyway, you do you, but for me the SENT risks vastly outweigh the potential rewards, and not being able to put in more than $1,000 or so without worrying about if I'll get my money back even after a pump makes it multiple levels beneath my stack grade.

Good luck to those of you chasing the pump, I hope you come out on top, but for me this is a hard pass

>>15275608

This is the 3rd fucking time this fud spam copy paste is added in this thread LOL

Fudders are next level lazy

>>15275549
Yes, I am criticizing the part which needs criticizing. That's how it works.
YOU replied to ME, talking about their VPN. Then you tried to move the goalposts, and started dodging questions. Like I said, clockwork.
Now go play in the traffic with the other shill, I'm not wasting time on a brainlet who blindly regurgitates propaganda.

Let's be fair, you have no idea of SENT has real users. Users on any network can easily be faked, and it unfortunately happens all the time in the tech world.

And SENT going to "low" volume is an understatement. It was completely dead, a few thousand in bot trades a day. Nothing has changed fundamentally about the project as far as I can tell. The only thing that changed is that on July 11th a shill army came to /biz/, Reddit, and a number of other crypto forums and started scheming people into putting money in. It was OBVIOUSLY coordinated, you'd have to be a total brainlet to not understand that.

Whether or not SENT is a real project I don't even care, the use case is paltry. It has no long term chance at survival, and the recent price action absolutely STINKING of PnD doesn't help it in my eyes.

That plus the volume is still embarrassingly low. Any real money in will be hard to get out if this price action continues at this amount of volume. The real fear is that volume dies off and you're literally stuck for another 2 years with not even being able to sell. That opportunity cost is high because you will, in the meantime, miss out on plenty of solid tokens & coins continuing their upwards trajectory.

Anyway, you do you, but for me the SENT risks vastly outweigh the potential rewards, and not being able to put in more than $1,000 or so without worrying about if I'll get my money back even after a pump makes it multiple levels beneath my stack grade.

Good luck to those of you chasing the pump, I hope you come out on top, but for me this is a hard pass.

>>15275802

do you realize that this 4th time spam here is not actually helping with your fud?

>>15275549
SIR DO YOU KNOW HOW THE BITCOIN WORK?

>>15275746

Answer me coward: how does bitcoin work? If you can't answer this wtf are you doing even trying to discuss about Sentinel hub which is next level blockchain tech interoperability?

>>15275852

Yes, miners propose blocks (with the nonce until one finds right number, like flipping a dice many times) depending on their hashrate (that's Sybil resistance mechanism) and earn block and transaction fee rewards. The consensus is longest chain rule. 10min adjusted difficulty is to allow enough time for block propagation. Finality is probabilistic. Blocks are composed of merkle root and merkle trees so if a malicious actor tries to tamper and old block he would need to redo the pow of all following blocks since even the smallest change in an old block would modify the hash functions all the way to the merkle root in the block header

>>15275895
THANK YOU SIR

>>15275833

mods have been deleting it.

>>15275926

Yes, they should

>>15275926

I have never seeing such a low effort fud, copy pasting same message every day in all sent related threads

>>15275746

Anon, give up, wtf you are doing in this thread if you don't even understand the real basics concepts in blockchain

>>15276179
Why do they do it sir, why dey spam de fuds

It must be because dey don't wan us to get RICH. Bich basterd maderchods want all the sent for demselfs...

>>15276240

there are two options for this spam fud:

1. They are mother teresa and want to protect whole biz from any danger they think exists

2. They missed SENT pump and want to bring price down to catch a few cheap SENT and get rich also


I vote for option 2

It already did 4x in the last month...

>>15276267
Very true sir, sent muchly too expensive for them to buy now so they spam lie

>>15273323
Holy hell. The level of Larp from deluded baghokders that fell for the pajeet discord PND. Quick buddy, now that I’ve called you out on your obvious delusional shill say something witty like call me a fudster or tell me I’m coping.

>>15276338

lol who is this idiot, what drugs are you taking?

>>15276338

Kill yourself

>>15276189
Blockchain has absolutely no relevancy to networking. /biz/ is trying to shill this as a VPN substitute. None of the shills a tually know what they're advocating. Simple as that. I really don't give a fuck about the token.

>>15276469

Give up now, token is part of the security and sybil resistance, it's virtualized hashrate idiot

It's a blockchain project and you say "blockchain has absolutely no relevancy" yeah, because you are totally ignorant about blockchain so that's all you could say, what a retarded you are