/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>15236827
yes please do the epstein soon crej. needful!

>>15236827
It’s almost time. I’m getting ready and other anons should too. Purchase on floatSV and store on electrumSV.

yes sir

>>15236827
https://youtube.com/watch?v=5DCAC1j2HTY

Remember this?

> “I am about to demonstrate a signing of a message with the public key that is associated with the first transaction ever done on bitcoin”

I don’t understand why is he saying recently “I will sign after proving in court” lol. lol. Wasn't that bbc fake stunt supposed to be real? hahaha

> “I don’t want money! I don’t want fame! I don’t wan adoration”

> “I will never do an interview ever again!”

right.

seems legit right goys?

Here the guy from bbc with his impressions, he was face to face with that clown: https://youtube.com/watch?v=zxMU4C6bGKw

> there will be no split
bch splits

> i will destroy bch
bch not destroyed

> btc will be $0 eoy 2018
btc $4000 eoy 2018

> i am satoshi
can’t sign a simple fucking message

> says I will sign after proving in court
but... wasn't the bbc stunt supposed to be a real signature? LOL

> submits a list of addresses of some fake tulip trust bullshit to court...
one of the addresses he claimed was signed by the real owner with a message saying the address is not belonging to this craig clown

> unlawfully registers a copyright on btc white paper and code in a stunt to cause a dump on btc
btc doesnt flintch

> next day copyright office confirms they didnt confirm this clown is satoshit and reaffirms that anyone can register anything with them
ultra fail

> some brainlets compare this piece of trash with trump, but trump is a winner
this clown is a loser

Guys this fakethosi clown is a fucking scam a pure and simple trash bag for everyone to see.

> He keeps putting a large biz budget for his trash biz shill army in an attempt to change public opinion
he fails miserably, anyone with one inch of brain sees this guy is a fucking trashbag scam

Fuck you and all you brainlets who support this fucking faketoshi loser piece of shit

>>15236845
The FUD is all time low

>>15236853
Guys, guys listen!
I'm Satoshi!
I swear!
I'm Satoshi Nakamoto creator of Bit Coin.
I don't care if you don't belive me.
But listen I'm Satoshi. If you don't believe me you gonna be so sorry!
I will bankrupt you!
Because I'm Satoshi.
And Bit Coin is turing complete... Yes it is. I'm not gonna prove it you just have to take my word on it!
I made Bit Coin. You will fucking listen to what I say!
I will not prove it because I don't owe you anything!
I don't care if you don't believe me!
Honest to God! I don't give a flying fuck.
But listen here! I'm Satoshi Nakamoto. Do you understand motherfucker.
I will bankrupt you if you don't listen to me!
But I'm not gonna prove shit because I don't care if you belive me or not...
I made Bit Coin it's mine! My intellectual property and you may only use it the way i see fit!
If you try other forks I will bankrupt you motherfucker!
I'm Satoshi. I can't prove it but I am.
Satoshi Nakamoto motherfucker!
That's me.
Don't believe me! See if I care!
You will be so sorry.
Sanjay's Vindaloo is the real Bit Coin!
The original.
We introduced new opcodes that make no sense.
I can do that because I'm Satoshi!
No I will not prove it!
No I will not sign.
Fuck off!
I don't owe you anything!
I'm Satoshi!
I don't care if you don't believe me!
I'm Satoshi! Motherfucker!
You buy, you hodl, anything at all, I will bloody bankrupt you!
I don't give a fuck!
You don't have to believe me!
I'm Satoshi I don't have to give a fuck!
I don't care about you incels!
I swear I don't. I really really truly don't care.
I'm Satoshi! Do you understand motherfucker?
Have a Nice Life!

>>15236853
How does any of your FUD change the fact that BSV is the only coin that can scale on chain? Enjoy your small blocks Greg.

>>15236827
listen carefully, I'll say this once.
please fucking kill yourself already. You know you want to.
thanks
>>15236861
>all time low
no, graverobbing is that. Had a child die recently? creg would like to talk to you about 'wallet.dat's. Is now convenient, or, should I call back in 5 minutes ?

>>15236853
bch is about to go to double digits

>>15236902
how does your retardness change the fact that this clown is a fucking scam piece of fucking shit? craig is a clown if you follow him you are a clown too

>>15236902
Nobody cares about scaling
It's some nerd shit.
You want fast transactions go use dogecoin fucking nerd.
We're here to make money first and foremost. BSV shitcoin is not BTC and it's all that matters.

>>15236914
Your posts is devoid of any actual points.
Refute this:
> It’s been over 10 years since Bitcoin was introduced to the world with the Satoshi Nakamoto white paper describing “a peer-to-peer electronic cash system.” But in the decade since, Bitcoin has not yet become an electronic cash system with fast transactions, low fees, and reduced intermediaries. What people think is Bitcoin – the Bitcoin Core (BTC) network – had its scaling capacity crippled with a tiny block size, became congested, and spiked high transaction fees. Merchants and consumers will not use a payment system that is slow and costly. Luckily, Bitcoin SV (BSV) emerged in November 2018 to fix that. BSV will ensure Bitcoin’s “Satoshi Vision” succeeds by massively scaling with big blocks to support a big global payment system.

>>15236939
> Nobody cares about scaling
Wrong. Bitcoin’s usefulness as a store of value comes as a secondary effect from its usefulness as a medium of exchange. If you destroy the medium of exchange, you destroy the store of value.

>>15236942
>devoid of actual points
so, you be saying, convict creg, who is currently on trial for fraud and has been previously sentenced to jail, DID NOT CONTACT THE ELDERLY FATHER OF IRA KLEIMAN ASKING HIM TO GO THOUGH HIS DEAD SONS PCs LOOKING FOR 'wallet.dat's ?
I think you'll find he did you know. THERES your 'Satoshi', right there.

>>15236958
bitcoin is a deflationary coin moron, spending it makes you waste future value. On the contrary fiat money is inflationary, spending it makes total sense because it will always be worth less in the future. Fuck your “scalable” shitcoin and fuck you

>>15236827
be early in something for once and actually make money
Buy Shock @ ddex.io/trade/SHOCK-WETH

>>15236936
Whoa whoa, don't talk about clouns like that. Clouns are aware of their limitations.
BSV nodes on the other hand are failing with block size 10% the size limit

>>15236958
... to conclude, you want scalability use fiat money. You want to make money hold bitcoin

>>15236902
>BSV is the only coin that can scale on chain
let's just wait until their chain gets stupid big so far it looks like their blocks are already bigger than what they can sustain. centralized mining chain splits reorgs and services giving up running full nodes is the result they can show so far.

>>15237000
BSV also has the same finite supply of 21,000,000. The main difference is that BSV scales so that when you decide you want to transfer your money you will actually be able to do so, and it won't disappear because of fees. Also, how do you expect miners to sustain the network if everyone is supposed to use layer 2 solutions like lightning?

>>15236930
BCH performs way better than BSV. BSV soon to be 1/3 BCH's price. Perhaps has something to do with fundamentals.

>>15237104
>Perhaps has something to do with fundamentals
looks to me more related to hashrate

>>15237088
>Also, how do you expect miners to sustain the network if everyone is supposed to use layer 2 solutions like lightning?
that's pretty simple lightning at scale will require 100mb blocks just to maintain channels.

>>15236827
Yes

>>15236939
>BTC
Here is a pile of shit. It is worth something because my feelings say so.

>>15237104
>BCH performs way better than BSV
In what metric? BSV is faster and can handle much larger blocks. It is the only chain that can facilitate the metanet. Bitcoin SV is the clear choice for miners and allows businesses to build applications and websites on it reliably.

>>15237159
>metanet
that's a joke just leave it alone!

The current system where every user is a network node is not the intended configuration for large scale. That would be like every Usenet user runs their own NNTP server. The design supports letting users just be users. The more burden it is to run a node, the fewer nodes there will be. Those few nodes will be big server farms. The rest will be client nodes that only do transactions and don't generate.
SN 2010

>>15237170
> lightning
that's a joke just leave it alone!
> FTFY

>>15237151
The free market decided 1 btc = 10899$ today.
You can cry, you can shit in the street, it won't make your bsv shitcone more valuable ;-)

We know Metokur is lurking /biz/ now - he ought to do a video about Craig, Roger, everyone in the Bcash saga. It would be richly entertaining.

>>15237184
maybe altho lightning is magnitudes less retarded than metanet as an idea.

>>15237186
> Free market
You mean scam exchanges fueled by Dark Tether, wash trading, and futures?

>>15237104
well you should check bch chart, it's about to drop off a cliff, bsv will drop some too but it's retesting support for its uptrend

>>15237218
>muh tether
2017 called, they want their fud back

>>15236827
You faggots have been saying this for YEARS and Craig is still unable to sign the keys
Go back to posting on twetch

>>15237121
funny shit but it's almost exactly correct if you multiply the price of sv with the hashrate ratio you get the price of bitcoin close enough.

>>15237229
It's not FUD. Tether is responsible for the surge in BTC price, not the users or "free market".

>>15236827
Who’s the old guy?

>>15237186
>free market
Sure thing. The price is not manipulated by a small group of whales.

BTC is also definitely not a barely usable intermediary whose sole purpose is to facilitate money laundering and crime via monero etc.

What is law? What are patents? BTC is done.
Roll on 2020 :) Hindsight is going to be a bitch.

>>15237252
or the simpler explanation is that tether is getting printed as new money enters the market. because big money uses tether to move around between exchanges.

thx for this thread. i totally forgot about that lolcow creg satoj, went to check his medium just now and low and behold more mentally ill drivel. again, thx for reminding me this lolcow exists. also, when is he going to prison? serious replies only thx

>>15237222
BCH has a tendency to recover better than BSV - not just now, but every time. This week alone it grew more than BSV by 7%. This kinda indicates which of the two coins will survive.

>>15237304Bitcoin is secure enough to act within legal frameworks. When you start adding systems on top of it such as the likes of Tether and Wormhole that are designed purely as record-losing criminal coins, then it is not secure enough. All of the changes people seek to do on Bitcoin are about creating a system that can act outside of the legal frameworks we live in. But you can’t. Bitcoin takes you in the opposite direction, and makes it more difficult for criminal coins to act outside the law — not less.

>>15237363
oh but wait it gets better brainlet
bitcoin is secure enough to work perfectly fine without a legal framework

>>15237363
>record-losing criminal coins
oh creg would LOVE one of those.
he spent A FUCKING AGE trying to get his record of being sentenced to prison lost. Lost in every instance, he did. Funny that, how he ALWAYS loses in the end, isn't it. I thought he had a Law Degree ? Don't you need to study for YEARS for one of those tho ?

>>15237304
that's not how it works, they are different assets and doing different things, whales engineer the markets so the moves happen around the same time, more so when bearish
but bch dead cat bounce fractals are completely different to what bsv has done over the last 6 months
go look closely and analyze them, one is very bullish, one is very bearish

>>15236827
fucking kill yourself nobody wants your shitcoin . buy link 1k eoy nigger faggot

>>15237490
BSV is currently 0.41 times the BCH price. This ratio has not been changing in BSV's favor. During dumps, BSV dumps lower, during pumps, BCH pumps higher.

>>15237548

Bitcoin is not an investment asset or a tool used for the dark web. Quite the contrary, Bitcoin SV has broken way from the culture of price speculation and has returned bitcoin's focus on building products of value that can be utilized as simple peer-to-peer electronic cash or as the base layer of apps and businesses that thrive on micropayment-fueled paywalls, in-game monetization, pay-per-click, "freemium" or also completely free (to the user) business models.

>>15237548
that's irrelevant and i just told you why

>>15237584
Relative price change is the only metric that's relevant. BCH rules supreme over BSV.

>>15237631
i don't think you'll be saying that in a few months

>>15236902
>the only coin that can scale on chain..
Ever heard of a coin called Digibyte?
Just how new are you?

>>15237771
>segwit
no

>>15237175
What the fuck is this retard talking about?
I have both btc and bsv daemons running on some old ass xeon server with 32gb of ram and mirrored 1tb hds.
You can buy thrash like this for 200 on ebay.

>>15237000
Gee, someone's jimmies are rustled.

>>15237043
>services giving up running full nodes
What service that isn't mining runs a full node?

>>15237212
>lightning is magnitudes less retarded than metanet
How do you figure?

>>15237304
BSV has had a better year than BCH.

>>15237425
The absolute state of this post.

>>15238127
refute it. refute one fucking word of it.
you won't
because you can't

>>15238159
He was never sentenced to prison for starters.

>>15238173
oh rly? Ask him
so, remind me again..
how many YEARS did creg need for his 'Law Degree' ? And if he has on, why does he LOSE EVRY CASE ?

>>15238159
What is there to refute? Your post is mindless drivel.

Damn y'all, these core cucks are salty today. God I love how Craig makes all of you incels so infuriated. It's delicious

>>15238178
Yeah, like I said he never went to prison. Literally who cares how long it took to get a degree? The man has like 20 or some dumb shit like that.

>>15238115
Not really. BSV is below where it was in November.

>>15238193
you mean he manage to dodge his prison sentence - YES, HE WAS SENTENCED TO PRISON - by doing community service instead. lel. Mr Law Degree. Do you even know how many attempts he had at turning that over ? Lost, Every Damn One. Maybe, he's just a loser ? I'll accept your apology for claiming I was wrong as well

>>15238217
>The man has like 20 or some dumb shit like that.
indeed

>>15236942
>BSV will ensure Bitcoin’s “Satoshi Vision” succeeds by massively scaling with big blocks to support a big global payment system.
On July 24th, the BSV network underwent a scheduled network upgrade with the intent to raise the blocksize from 128 MB to 2 GB. A whopping 19% failed to follow last months upgrade, while another 17% had their nodes crash when receiving the 210 MB block. Nice success, löl

>>15238243
>get sentenced to literal prison
>lol I'll just do community service instead
Sounds legit.

>>15238068
Shit like MB

>>15238271
you were fucking arguing 'creg wasn't sentenced to jail. eva' - then, you admitted he was. wtf are you arguing about now ? He managed to get lucky and dodge his rightful sentence - what 'community service' did he have to do, btw, gravedigging ? - he'd have liked that, could prob. have turned a profit

>>15238257
fuck raspberry pi 256MB ram nodes. They can be node for BTC and do nothing.

>>15238232
Not really and BCH is a lot lower than it was in November.

>>15238316
>pic related

"He was sentenced to 28 days in jail for breaching an injunction that prevented him from approaching customers of DeMorgan Information Security Systems, from which he resigned in 2003. The sentence was suspended on condition of performing 250 hours of community service."

He was never sentenced to prison. You think you know what things are, but you're actually retarded.

>>15238385
It clearly outperformed BSV on all fronts

You stupid core cuck/cashy faggots.
Why don't you realize that by continually fudding Craig you're keeping him relevant? You guys keep nipping at nothing and then resort to low tier name calling like 'cultists' and 'scammers' but are oblivious to the irony of it all.
It's pathetic, boys.
Buy DGB

>>15238399
>He was sentenced to 28 days in jail
Thank you, game over.
So tell me - you don't think '20 degrees' was overcooking it some, not even just a bit ? I mean, not EVERYONE is THAT fucking gullible. are they

>>15238430
Jail and prison aren't the same thing, numbnuts. You have to be 18 to post here.

>>15238430
I was going to call you out as Greg earlier but you're clearly too retarded even by Greg's standards.

So much seething ITT
Craig will win fuck (((core)))

>>15238500
Only peple with 20 degrees would know that fine difference tho. And theres not many of them, are there ? Why, I'd wager, ole creg's pretty damn unique
>>15238521
>not this bullshit again
there is nobody on this board give a fuvk about 'greg; either, give it up ffs

>>15238527
yo willy
when is the big btc dump

>>15238533
>Only peple with 20 degrees would know that fine difference tho
Absolute state.

>>15238527
He's already won. Anyone that matters is building on BSV. Meanwhile BTC has zero use case at all. Coretards just hoard it and call it a store of a value. How good is your store of value when you won't be able to ever use it when the fees cost more than what corecucks have in their wallet?

>>15238557

>>15238533
Silly anon, some people here do care for the man. He's the one keeping them fed, as long as they continue to fud his arch nemesis CSW of course

>>15238589
>Shkrelli

>>15238597
yes we are legion and all in his pay, when not actually him. you rumbled us
>meanwhile irl
>>15238624
same problem as creg desu. Prob. smart, but inveterate arsehole, Talked himself into it

I would unironically all in on BSV were it not for creg. the tech is interesting and certainly better than core, but creg is too much of a loose cannon. his bullshit got already got this project delisted from multiple top exchanges. BSV can't succeed with creg being it's most vocal advocate.

>>15238635
> smart people don’t...
> prob smart
You backtrack like an imbecile.

>>15238654
That’s why Jimmy Win came aboard to hand the PR. He can’t stop winning

>>15238654
> I would invest in the greatest tech but I just really don’t like this Craig fellow.

>>15238854
It was a concession for conversations sake. As you know, stop being a dick. 'Smart' are (maybe) both, but street smart are neither
>>15238654
>BSV can't succeed with creg
I know that, you know that, even these bsv shills know it, even when they won't admit it. But it makes me wonder why Calvin doesn't, makes him look dumb. Maybe he got took ('TrueCrypt encrypted drives, with GOLD!') by creg as well, idk. But in any event, nope, Calvin looks dumb as fuck for relying on this charlatan as the front of bsv. And with every court case creg loses (ie any he's involved in - and there's another few of them due), well, it just don't improve any, does it ?

>>15238950
Nobody is relying on Creg to be the frontman. It's just that he happens to be Satoshi.

>>15238557
>thinking satoshi would be a goody 2 shoes
who else has a bunch of degrees
says fuck the world
was verifiably in bitcoin at the start
and is rich as a saudi?
also who else claims to be satoshi who meets those requirements. ill wait patiently

Do people hate money? Creg is so unironically Satoj it's not funny anymore. Thanks to everyone for not buying BSV now and making me rich a few years from now. Losers.

>>15236827