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Venezuela

Chink versión

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/13/hong-kong-protests-china-media-says-military-assembles-nearby.html

>> No.15226613
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>>15226550
Tiananmen Square x10 is coming.
The PRC is playing with fire, this time a massacre will not be overlooked by the west.

>> No.15226624

>>15226613
>U.S. government institutes draft
>millions of millenials and zoomers flee or go into hiding

Ehh I don't see that happening if a draft was to be done.

>> No.15226638

>>15226624
Dude what?
China will be sanctioned to shit.

Also US doesn't need a draft, they can beat the PRC toy army with what they already have deployed.

>> No.15226673 [DELETED] 

>>15226613
And don't forget to thank me later, sir

https://imgur.com/pjippmB

>> No.15226676

>>15226613
So what west gonna do? It’s a internal matter. HK is part of China, west can’t do jack

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sanctions are coming

>> No.15226694

>>15226613
>us gets caught meeting with resistance leaders
>dumb fucking american thinks that US didn't plan this from the start
imagine being such a slave to the state that you think that this isn't the US creating a false flag attack on people that it has nothing to do with to keep funding it's military industrial complex.

>> No.15226697

>>15226694
https://www.rt.com/news/466078-hong-kong-us-joshua-wong/

>she wasn't CIA she was an embassy worker!!!

>> No.15226704

>>15226697

https://twitter.com/O_Rich_/status/1159184342230454275

>> No.15226709

>>15226613
>Tiananmen Square x10 is coming.
this

>> No.15226711

>>15226676
Yes they can, when the UK gave HK away, the agreement clearly stated that after it is handed over, HK will have self rule for 50 years.
The chinese military present is illegal in HK.

>>15226694
I know, but don't care.

>> No.15226713

>>15226693
Who is this creepy fucker? Pedos give me the wiggins

>> No.15226724

>>15226711
You making that up about the Chinese army being there is illegal. You don’t know shit, KYS faggot

>> No.15226738

>>15226724

Open a book retard

>> No.15226744

>>15226738
Ok, faggot...where’s your source

>> No.15226746
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>>15226724
>Is too retarded to use a search engine
Hint: One country, 2 systems.

>> No.15226753

>>15226638
China has nukes, a war isn't going to happen.

>> No.15226756

>>15226746
Doesn’t mean the Chinese army being there is illegal retard

>> No.15226758

>>15226694

The US didn't send the police to beat the shit out of the protestors you dumb chinksect.

>> No.15226760

>>15226711
China only honour the 200 years treaty because they can’t do shit. There is no such thing as illegal. If they have the mean to do it they will.

>> No.15226782

>>15226694
>US secretly convinced millions of Hong Kong citizens to stage city wide protest for weeks on end with said protest being about a bill that China is pushing for

>> No.15226786

>>15226756
>>15226760
>Under the principle, each of the two regions could continue to have its own governmental system, legal, economic and financial affairs, >including trade relations with foreign countries.
Thank the Qing Dynasty for signing such retarded accord.

With this said brainlets, it is illegal.
Also according to this, HK tomorrow can ask for help and the whole fucking west will come for china's ass.
But there is something far worse, HK stocks will drop to 0$ if the PRC will move in their army.
The west and puppets will sanction China including everyone who sides with China.

>> No.15226799

>>15226550
The only way China can control HK is if they wipe it off the face of the earth. There are too many protesters to control. Chinas best option is to just let it go but politicians are all megalomaniacs.

>> No.15226806

>>15226613
>will not be overlooked by the west
You are fucking dumb, pajeet. Go back to shilling your discord shotcoins
No country will risk getting into a real war with nukes over a small island with no resources nor strategic value. Politicians only want money and reelection

>> No.15226818

>>15226760
the Yanks are just itching for an opportunity to blockade China. the instant China makes an aggressive move against HK (or for that matter Taiwan) they'll have their reason and wont hesitate to crack down.

there is absolutely nothing China can do about an American naval blockade without going after the carriers, and attacking an American carrier would be a de-facto declaration of war. there's a pretty fierce debate over how well certain elements (like carriers) would do in a theoretical modern war, but there is no debate about who would ultimately win such a conflict. China stands no chance.

This is why its almost unfathomable that China actually moves in on HK. it leads them down a path where they have no conceivable chance at gaining anything.

>> No.15226819

>>15226806
Politicians are mostly megalomaniacs. They can't stand the idea of someone not doing what they say.

>> No.15226831

>>15226806
>small island with no resources nor strategic value
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/05/hong-kong-topples-new-york-as-worlds-richest-city.html

Do your research please, there is much more about HK.
It a very good strategic value for a new US base.

>> No.15226837

>>15226818
This.

>> No.15226845

>>15226786
>>15226818
A war is most likely the case, I don’t see how a sanction will do anything to China. It also seem like something the jews would want to distract the world of the epsien case. You are going to war hk, and I hope I’m not going to be involve. Sad time.

>> No.15226846

>>15226831
That wealth will be gone if China tries to control it.

>> No.15226849

>>15226786
Hey soiboy, your glasses aren’t helping your chinlet face read, nothing there states anything about the illegality of the military there. Learn English shithead

>> No.15226856

>>15226819
No, politicians are actors that would do anything in order to get the popular vote and be reelected for money. Killing your economy and your reelection by going into a pointless nuclear war with nothing to gain is just not worth the effort and they know it. And don't forget China owns most of the first world countries' debts
>>15226831
>the US will go to a full scale nuclear war with China over a new US base
Yep, you are retarded

>> No.15226859

>>15226806

>a small island with no resources nor strategic value.

Holy shit please tell me you aren’t this fucking retarded

>> No.15226878

>>15226806
HK has a lot of value but that's really not what its about. Its about China starting exert itself and fulfill its ambitions without foreign interference.

China sees this no differently than the US would if (for instance) Illinois decided it was leaving the union. The reality is obviously different, nobody would recognize Illinois' independence but everyone recognizes an independent HK. China also goes full autismo when anyone treats Taiwan like a real country. They've been placated so much since the US backed off in Korea that they think the whole world moves out of their way.

Now that its starting to change they are getting antsy, and its not going away with Trump either. The target is on their backs.

>> No.15226886

>>15226849
Nope, if they could they would have already done that, they can't.
They're sending their soldiers undercover into HK.

>>15226856
There will be no nuclear war, the PRC will collapse in weeks after the US gets serious. The only retarded one is you.

>> No.15226893

>>15226886
Again, learn some English faggot..no where does it state it is illegal

>> No.15226899

>>15226859
The only way the US can put a military base in HK is by invading China. And let me tell you why that will never happen. It starts with N and ends with ukes.
>>15226886
>China will collapse any day now!

>> No.15226909
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So.... Short the Hong Kong index??

>> No.15226910

Tanks are probably made of cheap plastic, just like everything else from China. Fire bomb them and they will melt like green army men

>> No.15226914

>>15226886
It is hard to say who will win in the war, but China won’t be like invading sandniggers. But the odd are leaning toward US.

>> No.15226919

>>15226893
Wars of territorial aggression are illegal and even if they weren't they are considered unacceptable by the international community. If China invades HK the consequences would be serious.

>> No.15226929
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>>15226899
No need, H.A.A.R.P will just make a mag10 earthquake appear concidently. What's China gonna do nuke mother nature xDDD

>> No.15226940

>>15226919
Why would a country need to invade a city that is legally a part of that country already...your logic reeks of soiboy

>> No.15226946

>>15226940

HK is indepedent and its independence is universally recognized by the international community.

>> No.15226949

>>15226893

Imagine being this retarded really.

Article 14
The Central People’s Government shall be responsible for the defense of the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region.

The Government of the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region shall be responsible for the maintenance of public order in the Region.

Military forces stationed by the Central People’s Government in the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region for defence shall not interfere in the local affairs of the Region.

Only if they fucking ask.
>The Government of the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region may, when necessary, ask the ??>Central People’s Government for assistance from the garrison in the maintenance of public >order and in disaster relief

>> No.15226954

>>15226946
You know I hate to break to you, but the so call international just really means the US

>> No.15226957

>>15226919
HK is China, so it's an internal issue. Russia invaded a foreign country, annexed part of the land and the only thing westcucks did was to sanction Russia.

>> No.15226966

>>1522694
Hong Kong it’s not an independent nation of its own like Taiwan, it’s a city that is legally part of China. China is not invading Hong Kong.

>> No.15226971

>>15226957
How's Russia's economy been since then?

>> No.15226977

>>15226940
Stop pretending to be retarded, anyone with a basic knowledge of world politics knows about the one country two systems rule China has with Hong Kong, to not know about just shows how stupid you are.

>> No.15226978

>>15226949
Only if they ask...and it looks like they are about to ask. Hence it’s not illegal retard.

>> No.15226980

>>15226957
>the only thing westcucks did was to sanction Russia.
Together with Russia losing 1 trillion in GDP.

>> No.15226983

>>15226978
They didn't ask you imbecile then it means illegal.
You proved multiple times during this argument of being retarded with an IQ of room temperature.

>> No.15226986

>>15226977
Yes, people know it. So stop being dense and saying the Chinese army assisting Hong Kong in Hong Kong is illegal....

>> No.15226989

>>15226986
>assisting
the shill is strong with this one

>> No.15226990

>>15226966
Why are the Jews in support of this? Perhaps they made a deal with China not to cover this in American news? Why else would JIDF be flooding this thread?

>> No.15226994

>>15226983
And they aren’t in Hong Kong yet are they?! Fuckkkkkkkk you’re so damn retarded...

>> No.15226997

>>15226971
>>15226980
They still managed to survive. Now tell me, after 5 years, who owns Crimea? Where were the US world police troops during this conflict?

>> No.15227011

>>15226980
Numbers on paper mean shit all it isn’t like they are starving. As long as the country is self sustaining then they were successful in their mission. The benefit of land grab outweigh above all else.

>> No.15227012

>>15226990
Just like usual, anything that doesn’t fit your agenda is a shill...

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>>15226550

>> No.15227015

>>15226997
ok intervention in an ongoing civil war is a far cry from flat out invading a country for the sole purpose of oppressing its population.

>> No.15227016

>>15226957
That was a Europoor nation. Imagine a Land that brings in trillions...yes trillions..of dollars a year. Now imagine the Jews rubbing their hands together

>> No.15227023
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>>15226818
Carriers are soooooo outdated it's going to be like WWII were everyone thought their Dreadnoughts (Battleships) were the shit only to get absolutely destroyed by aeroplanes memes. China has over 9000 anti-ship Drones. These drones are basically mini RC speed boats that are semi submersible (Drone Torps I guess). They are really cheap to make and are launched together in the 100s. Also Dept charges will have no effect since the drones are 100% solid plastic.

>> No.15227033

>>15227015
>invading a country for the sole purpose of oppressing its population
did you learn geopolitics from Disney movies?

>> No.15227038

>>15226957
Russia got fucked in the process, they now have an economy smaller than Italy, they just sell natural ressources and weapons now.

Besides neocons pushed really hard for a conflict (see this dead piece of garbage of McCain) but fact is europeans don't really give a shit about Ukraine and Russia is considered more as a potential partner than a rival while keeping the two a part is an absolute necessity for the US to remain the global dominant force.

>> No.15227040

>>15227023
fine, take away the carriers. you cant sink Guam, Okinawa or basically the entirety of Korea. Unless your plan is to also attack Japan and RoK...that'll go over real well.

The USAF is more than capable of doing whatever it wants over Chinese airspace from existing installations. China has been so fixated on the carriers that they've lost sight of the bigger picture.

>> No.15227054

>>15227015
>an ongoing civil war
That's how you cope? Russia funded the "rebels" and then annexed the land, that's not civil war, that's just invading another country and defend it's not with semantics
>>15227016
>trillions... of dollars a year
How can they bring in trillions of dollars when their gdp is only 300 billion a year?
>>15227038
And china is not Russia. china has corrupted Central Asian and African politicians and governments. If they get sanctioned, they will just crash the western stock market since they own so much debt from all the western countries, and focus on these developing countries

>> No.15227123

>>15227054
What do you think happens to that debt if China becomes an international villain?

>> No.15227136

>>15227123
I lost braincells reading your post. Please stick to your link shilling and wojack spamming

>> No.15227140

>>15227123
The only international villain currently is the nation that bombs the fuck out of another nation without a shred of evidence of WMD

>> No.15227158

>>15227140
woe to the vanquished

>> No.15227163

>>15227140
>The only international villain currently is the nation that bombs the fuck out of another nation without a shred of evidence of WMD
this. usa keeps it power by making every other country stay poor. nothing wrong with that. that's life. for someone to be rich, many have to be poor. we cant all be rich, because we need poor people to do work

>> No.15227231

>>15226786
>the west will engage in nuclear war with China because of HK
Imagine being as retarded as this clown

>> No.15227251

>>15226782
The US infiltrated the Chinese deep-party in order to get this bill passed so that they could stir up trouble in Hong Kong to get them to retaliate to the actual Chinese to worsen the geopolitical position of Beijing

>> No.15227256

>>15226713
He's her father, you paedo scum !
Also the greatest mobster in the world.

>> No.15227298

>>15227158
Thanks for proving my point soiboy

>> No.15227322

>>15226782
>US secretly convinced millions
The US only needs to convince and fund a couple instigators though, the social networks will do the rest, like every protest funded by Soros in the west. That's why everyone you see in the protests are zoomers

>> No.15227329

>>15227054
But China isn't a block leader like the US, they are absolutely despised by other asian nations and India/Japan/SEA have much to win shrinking back China expansion.

China is still a giant with feet of clay, they don't yet have the internal market of the US nor the self sufficiency in ressources (which is why they try to expand on Russia too around the Amor) and even less the global presence.

> they will just crash the western stock market since they own so much debt from all the western countries, and focus on these developing countries

Kek you realize that the debt this big works against the Chinese in case of a conflict right? Debt between the two biggest countries on earth works differently than debt between two random individuals in terms of game theory.

Besides the Chinese only own 5% of the US national debt, the real problem would be a collapse of international commerce but again this is a bigger problem for an exporter like China than an importer like the US.
Africa and Central Asia have absolutely 0 relevance on the current geopolitical scene and doesn't help them at all for their aims, they're incredibly easy to disrupt too.
The goal of China is transparent, it's to control completely the South Asian sea and expand to the middle East with their Silk Road project.

China showing it's muscle is bluff, fact is they don't want conflict as that would set them back but at the same time if they want to keep growing they need American influence to erode in Asia.
The US in the meantime try to maintain a statu quo but it's difficult to do so because their presence and every move they make rely on the consent of their local partners who are ambivalent (they don't want to antagonize China but they don't want to be completely controlled by it either). That's why they're pushing on Japan to remilitarize ironically.

>> No.15227381

>>15227329
>they are absolutely despised by other asian nations
Central Asia love chinkbucks, Pakis literally call them brothers and will give them access to the sea through the Gwaydar port to Africa, where they have already spread their fangs in the local governments. They will shrink, that's for sure, but they won't go down alone. Just look at what happened when they decided to devalue their currency

>> No.15227384

China's foreign policy is no joke to wait for this grand moment when they whole world turns on America. They are peak delusional.

>> No.15227427

>>15226859
Its strategic value has vastly diminished since the handover. Hk was important in the past because it wasnt china

>> No.15227442

>>15227329
and the reason SA economy is dependent on the US is because south americans really love the us? Money speaks and the chinese have the money right now.

>> No.15227443

>>15227381
who needs Japan, Korea and Australia/NZ when you can have uh...Pakistan and Africa.

lol

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>>15227443
>who needs a developing country that has more population than Japan, Korean and Australia combined and a continent that's projected to have 2-3 billion people by 2050 when you can have these 3 countries that already hate everything you make and stay away from it whenever possible

>> No.15227480

>>15226613
ya now that china is 100 times more powerful then it was

>> No.15227600

>>15227443
Uh you just named 4 countries with collapsing demographics......

>> No.15227617

>>15227442
If that was the case then SA would already be 100% controlled by China.
What is at stake is sovereignty.

>> No.15227669

>>15226613
It will be glorious. And in 4K.

>> No.15227964

China needs dollars to support it's economy and international projects.

Just take the China pill

https://youtu.be/Lscn0TrXoyE

>> No.15227970

>>15227473
yea who wants diversified economies with professional and highly skilled workforces. especially when the alternative is a country that harbours islamic extremists and a continent that is absolutely ungovernable

>> No.15227973

>>15226786
Kek, when Chinese took back HK, the first thing they did was marching a battalion into the area.
Why are you lying, Jamaal?

>> No.15227981

>>15227970
Please stick to link spammin, pajeet

>> No.15228003

>>15227964
btw this is all connected. The reason China is cracking down on Hong Kong is because they know there's a high impact crash coming and they need to crack down.

>> No.15228012

>>15226613
>will not be overlooked by the west.
We won't do anything. It's not in our interest to, just like last time. But this time it will be dragged into the open, kicking and screaming.

>> No.15228030

>>15226694
This is the latest nonsense being peddled by Chinese online. They must be scared to resort to this. "US mobilised two million people against us". Right.

>> No.15228039

The real question is what happens to annoying Chinese students at American, Australian and Canadian universities when shit pops off? I hope internment camps. No class of person in the world is more entitled than young Chinese people living in the west on their parent's money.

>> No.15228041

>>15228030
Well... it isn’t the first time the us did this. I wouldn’t be surprise

>> No.15228047

>>15226818
>This is why its almost unfathomable that China actually moves in on HK

You think the leaders of a failing China would not risk a war in order to save face? You are not very experienced in Chinese culture.

>> No.15228064

>>15228030
Clear evidence and still swimming in denial...and it wasn’t 2 million people as you stated, that number comes from the CIA organizers....highly over inflated

>> No.15228089

>>15228047
You may be right. China has been a very pragmatic and sensible actor until extremely recently. They really have stuck to their idea of a peaceful ascension.

To an extent the Trump Admin. has flustered them. Not necessarily Trump himself but there has long been a cadre of people in the DoD and State Dept. who have believed China is way weaker than they let on and will cave if put under this kind of pressure. Trump has just unleashed that element. Its clearly having the kind of effect they've envisioned.

>> No.15228097

>>15228064
Go home wu Mao. HK and mainland animosity is enough to believe this shit is going down.

>> No.15228101

>>15226550
Habbedi

>> No.15228105

>>15226846
>This
It only was valuable because people made it to be so because it was better alternetive to the china for middle and high class.

>> No.15228107

>>15228041
It's only popped up in the last few days. Reeks of bj desperation.. and I deal with regular Chinese who have been quacking about HK for months then this all of a sudden? It's embarrassing bj too so long to think of it..

>> No.15228124

>>15228089
They are fucked. The West thinks China is like us, but they are not. They are third world with an aging population and massive cities. They will fall in time because of this in combination with their economy being based on exporting cheap plastic. They will have another famine and millions will die but bj will find a scape goat.

>> No.15228131

>>15226694
So what? Even if what you said is happening, which is obviously bullshit, this is life at the big boy table. If China isn't tough enough to handle it they can go back to "emerging markets" end of the kiddie pool.

>> No.15228144

>>15228131
Even if it's true? as if US works "get caught" he probably saw it on the state channels on the mainland. Kek. What a wu Mao

>> No.15228145

>>15228107
I’m thinking military weapons going to magically be handed to civilian next. After two years hk is going to be a shithole. People won’t remember the good ol days about it. Lebanon anyone?

>> No.15228252

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>> No.15228460

>>15228097
Can’t handle the clear evidence of CIA involvement? Your masters have no explanation for you to give? The only animosity is coming from serfs like you who have zero ability for critical thinking. Don’t be mad cause your an utter failure in life. KYS faggot

>> No.15228513

>>15228097
Go home winston

>> No.15228538

I hope they massacre the entire populace of HK.

>> No.15228820

>>15228513
Winston is a cuck. He is wu Mao along with you. He is the equivalent of Alex Jones or pjw. If he were not the Chinese gov would have silenced him long ago and gulaged his wife's family. Your delusion is showing.

>> No.15228900

>>15228252
For the Wu mao. This is the equivalent of normie level conspiracy theories for China. It gets posted here frequently. When you know what you are not meant to talk about you are blind to the rest.

>> No.15228995

>>15226550
Hong Kong Boat People when?

This is like the FrancoVietnamese losing to Commies all over again.

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>>15226613
>will not be overlooked by the west.
and what exactly are you gonna do? write them a strongly worded letter?

>> No.15229052

>>15228820
Your English is ass retard...

>> No.15229065

>>15228538
>one post by this ID
PLA, pls go away. Don’t you need to oil the tank treads or something?

>>15229019
Yes. A letter statement: 50% tariffs

>> No.15229072
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>>15229065
you know its you that pays the tariffs right?

>> No.15229093

>>15229052
Pathetic.

>> No.15229217

>>15229093
You even know what that means, or is google translate helping you retard?

>> No.15229279

>>15228039
Based

>> No.15230418

>>15226550
Why is my post still up ?

>> No.15230465

If China goes into HK it's either from desperation from incompetence..
What they need to do is wait out the protests and then quietly mop up afterwards..

>>15229019
Increased US tariffs and other sanctions..
US will Revoke HK special trade status..
EU leaders will get pressured into joining trade war by the electorate, media and US..

And US may even use Tianamen squared as an excuse to enforce a naval blockade of Chinese trade lanes..

>>15229072
Pretty sure the yuan devaluation is what will pay for the US tariffs..

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>> No.15230498

>>15226676
Why would we want to? Chinks killing other chinks seems like a win-win

>> No.15230519

>>15230465
you wont do shit cuck. chinks got you by the balls

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>>15230519
I suppose we will see.
But my bet is that it's China that won't do shit.

US really doesn't need to do much to strangle China.
China has ~320% of GDP debt in their economy and need around 9% GDP growth just to keep up with interest.

Private debt shouldn't be a problem. bit a giant chunk of that is in SOEs, make-work jobs and the mother of all housing bubbles.
Which means that once banks start going bust China has to bail them out.
They will print more yuan and the wealth of the average chinaman will evaporate.

While the devaluation may help with exports, imports will be a problem.
The things china imports, it can't make.
Food, Energy, Raw materials.

This combination means that the life of an average chinaman is going to drop like a rock..

It might even get so bad that they start thinking that the emperor needs to go..

>> No.15230826

>>15230727
>corporate debt
nice meme. only public debt matters, China has 20% public debt compared to 100% public debt for USA

>China will run out of food
nice meme again. China is literally the largest food producer in the world. The only thing they need to import is oil which they import from Russia and Iran, countries that have much more devalued currencies so it doesn't even make any difference

USA has the largest trade deficit in the world, your entire marketplace depends on imports, if you try to cut off China you will see your consumer price inflation skyrocket, pray your leaders aren't dumb enough to go that route

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>>15230727
Based

>>15230826
Bullshit wumao nonsense

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>>15230836
how's the weather in Tel Aviv Cohen

>> No.15230899

>>15230869
>everyone who disagrees with me is a Jew
Get fucked chink. I hope you wind up eating grass and twigs like your grandparents did.

>> No.15230910

>>15230899
>anyone smart enough to see USA is fucked is a chink
enjoy your Brazil 2.0 kike

>> No.15230975

>>15230910
Time will tell I guess. I’d bet on the west all day every day. You speak my language, I don’t speak yours nor do I have any need to. Think about it.

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>>15228252
based

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>>15230975
you don't have a language mutt, you are talking england's and mexico's language

>> No.15231081

>>15231009
And you speak the Beijing dialect of jibber jabber, unless you’re local to one of the infinite number of jungle bunny variants. What’s your point?

>> No.15231126

>>15230826
>nice meme. only public debt matters
Lol.. so why is China bailing out it's banks?
See Bank of Jinzhou, Baoshang, Heng Feng...

I guess they're just bailing them out for fun..

>nice meme again. China is literally the largest food producer in the world.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ff2onlnboVw
It ain't that easy to feed 1.4 people..

>The only thing they need to import is oil which they import from Russia and Iran
Oh please do tell me how reliable those Iranian oil exports will be in the coming years. It's not like the US can start to squeeze them as them as the Iranian crisis escalate..

And I'm sure that Russia will definitely not rise prices when yuan devalues. They're totally just gonna accept the same amount of yuan per barrel..

>if you try to cut off China you will see your consumer price inflation skyrocket
You do realize the factories will just move to Vietnam, India and other regions right?
India is about to become the new rising power..
China's exports is completely fucked without the US and EU markets..

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>>15231081
my point is that you are butthurt mutt in a dying country on life support by debt, even you know this is true but your blind hate of China just wont let you admit it now. Your country is on path to become the next Brazil while China will be the sole global superpower and there is nothing your Zionist leaders can do to stop this

>>15231126
>amerimutt talking about bailing banks and debt
lmao

>ruble devaluation is gonna be slower than yuan
lmao

>India is about to become the new rising power
ULTRALMAO

literal pajeet tier arguments

>> No.15231361

>>15226711
>HK will have self rule for 50 years.
Under the sovereignty of China. The UK has no more legal say in the matter, just like any other country.

>> No.15231371

>>15226806
It isn't small and as a naval base it is massively important.

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>>15231155
>amerimutt talking about bailing banks and debt
Still waiting for you to tell me why China has bailed out 3 banks in 3 months..
You know.. Since private debt doesn't matter..

Look at this chart..
See how China didn't feel anything in 2008..
Rest of the world corrected, China doubled down using a debt steroid.
Now that debt is coming due at the worst possible time for China..

>hurr durr currency devaluation will make oil cheaper..
You do realize that if ruble devalues, the price of oil in rubles goes up right?

>ULTRALMAO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vA-rtjlKEYU
Currently India is growing faster than China..
And China's growth will keep dropping like a rock..

+Indian population pyramid is looking a lot better than China's..

>> No.15231464

>>15231375
Just ignore him. He was educated in the west using his daddy’s money yet decries the value of the west and all it has to offer. Chinks gonna chink.

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>>15231375
imagine someone actually shilling for India and expecting anyone to take you seriously. pajeets can't even poo in toilets let alone become a superpower

China didn't feel 2008 because they weren't invested in your debt scheme, the only effect they had was the reduced imports from you becoming poorer

>You do realize that if ruble devalues, the price of oil in rubles goes up right?
thats not how it works dumbass. if ruble devalues versus yuan it means it will be cheaper for China to buy

Yuan won't be forever devalued, the artificially kept yuan is just one phase of their economy. Their service sector will grow larger and when they remove controls on the currency yuan is gonna skyrocket and they will be buying out your assets like crazy. China is playing the long con, in the next asset crash in USA, they will own half of your country

>>15231464
aww, poor mutt is angry because his failing brazil ghetto zionist muttland is becoming a shithole. I know that even you deep down you know China will be far better when they replace you. Embrace your new overlords and it will be less painful

>> No.15231884

>>15231531
Where did you go to school? Serious question.

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>>15231884
in what mexinigger ghetto do you live? seriously want to know

>> No.15232185

>>15231531
>pajeets can't even poo in toilets
Lol..
Do you not realize that Chinese shit on the street ..?

Louvre literally had to put up signs asking Chinese tourists to not shit on the museum floor..

https://www.orlandoweekly.com/Blogs/archives/2016/05/09/chinese-visitors-welcome-disneyland-to-town-by-defecating-in-the-bushes
http://theindependent.sg/this-is-normal-in-china-woman-who-brings-her-grandson-to-poop-in-public-lashes-out-at-singaporeans/
https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1107005-chinese-tourist-in-bangkok-caught-defecating-in-street-next-to-shocked-diners/

>China didn't feel 2008 because they weren't invested in your debt scheme, the only effect they had was the reduced imports from you becoming poorer
Imports get reduced, but GDP growth didn't change..
How do you think that happened? It was fueled with debt..

>if ruble devalues versus yuan it means it will be cheaper for China to buy
Currency devaluations don't really affect the value of a commodities..
The value of oil is what it is..
China will have to pay that value..
Devaluing yuan means that the value of yuan is going down..
China is paying the same value for the oil but devaluation means the savings and wages of Chinese people are worth less..

>Yuan won't be forever devalued, the artificially kept yuan is just one phase of their economy.
Yuan is not devalued and China does not want it to devalue.
China wants to grow a middle class and an internal economy.
So China is artificially keeping yuan FROM being devalued..

The only reason yuan isn't at 12 USD is because China keeps defending it.
If yuan was allowed to float without controls it would be worthless in weeks..
Literally nobody wants to be holding yuan, that includes the Chinese..

>Their service sector will grow larger and yuan will skyrocket
1. Banks going bust and yuan has to be devalued
2. Chinese people lose buying power
3. ???
4. Service sector grows and yuan skyrockets

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>>15232185
>Yuan is not devalued and China does not want it to devalue.
imagine being this dumb. can't even take anything you say seriously when you are so ignorant about the subject. Also, you seem suspiciously fond of pajeets for some reason..

>> No.15232475

>>15226550
Hi biz this OP reporting

Bots have taken over this thread and others

Lurk with awareness

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>>15227014

>> No.15232552

>>15232257
China want's to build up it's middle class..
It can't do that if Yuan keeps devaluing..
.
But at the same time China is addicted to exports to the west and has to print away the internal debts it has in it's economy..

They're literally cannibalizing their middle class in order to save face in the trade war..

Also, Can't help but notice you kinda skipped the part where the Chinese go around taking shits on random streets..

At least pajeets use designated streets instead of random streets.

>> No.15232669

>>15226753
>Fallout isn’t warning about the future

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>>15232552
China has been devaluing their currency for decades, this isn't new and has nothing to do with the recent trade war. When their internal service sector increases you will see yuan skyrocketing vs the dollar. Thats when you will be completely fucked, they will buy off half of your industries and land in addition to owning most of Africa. I told you to embrace your new overlords, the more you fight it the more painful it will be when the new world order comes.

>b-bb-ut muh pajeets!!
thats just hilarious cope lmao

>> No.15232692

>>15226638
What goods will America and the rest of the world be purchasing if China was sanctioned?

>> No.15232837

>>15226990
Lmao exactly my thoughts

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>>15232837
>forgot pic

>> No.15232894

>>15232863
I’m not a bot shithead

>> No.15232898

>>15226799
>Let go billions of dollars worth of assets and a military strategic point.
KEK. Yea sure bud.

Thing is most of the citizens that can afford to leave, already did. Those that accepted their fate of prc rule are already learning mandarin. The ones protesting are young liberals with nothing to lose. That’s why they’re using social media to appeal to the west, pleading for assistance. (There is one video circulating of a group of protesters singing the star spangled banner, needless to say it was cringe as fuck)

>> No.15232936

>>15232894
>1 post by this ID
>wasn’t the guy I quoted, or in the pic
Hm no idea where you came from, but it does seem that you are, in fact, a bot.

>> No.15232940

>>15232936
It was me

>> No.15232945

>>15226886
>US declares war
>people protests in US
>US stops war and deals with its own issues

Prove me wrong

>> No.15232960

>>15232685
ok, the country is literally about to self-implode. pig flu, army bugs eating crops. banks defaulting, 1m+ rioters lol just wait until it speads inland. wait until the muslims seize the opportunity. their currency is about to devalue to 12-13:1. only fools are long china right now

>> No.15233036

>>15226983
>is irregarl

Go home and jack off basedboy. Welcome your new Communist overlords!

>> No.15233074

>>15231155
The avatarfagging socialist muttposter is a chink lmfao.

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>>15232960
23 trillion in debt. zika viruses, mass shootings, mexican gangs, nigger uprisings, heavy political divide and tension, multi-racial demographic changes and tension, religious tribalism and tensions, losing military hegemony. Just wait until debt balloon pops, racial and religious wars start, getting overrun by angry niggers wanting gibs and mexican gangs lords pushing in. USD is about to devalue 10-11:1. Only morons are long USA right now
>>15233074
cope harder niggermutt

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>devaluing their currency for decades
1995 yuan was 8.5 USD
2013 yuan was 6 USD

>devaluing their currency
>internal service sector increases
You've never actually made a winning trade, have you?

>> No.15233126

>>15233102
>newfag can't even quote
>retard posts chart that proves him wrong
lmao. this is why you will always be dumb and poor

>> No.15233215

>>15232940
I’s got my drink on and my smokes in line....boooommmmmmshakalakalaka

>> No.15233525

>>15232692
Why do people think we need trash made to break and fall apart that causes more environmental damage to the planet than any other nation in history?

>> No.15234165

>>15232863
Yo, don’t forget to screen cap me being in your mom

>> No.15234178

>>15232685
yes, I remember when japan bought america in the 80s too

>> No.15234204

>>15226550
asians killing some asians, don't really see the issue here bud

>> No.15234622

>>15233126
>ad hominem attacks instead of countering his central argument

Smells like cope