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>> No.15160948
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Based

>> No.15160959

drns

>> No.15160967

Thanks orange man

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>>15160936
>>15160939
does this make my bitcones go up

>> No.15160977

Thank's Anon

>> No.15160981

>>15160939
>not having a locked in mortgage rate
Who does this?

>> No.15160982

I have a roll of silver eagles will I make it?

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neat

>> No.15160989

so only insiders have proof of this?
when will it become public

>> No.15160997

>>15160936
thanks anon this is huge

>> No.15161006

wait wait wait should i short hsbc

>> No.15161032

>>15160936
the current approved version of his firing was due to a 15% loss in asia for HSBC holdings. I will believe this until a further approved version of the story is released through traditional channels, as should you anon.

>> No.15161056

Fucking noobs, china repeats cicles over and over again, check march 2017 the same has happened before. Go all in crypto, bullrun soon.

>> No.15161065

>>15161056
It's hard to take pajeets like you seriously when you can't even spell cycle correctly.

>> No.15161069

We are going to have war between China and the USA within eighteen months. The trade war has tensions ratcheted up and this Hong Kong thing is eventually going to provoke a heavy handed Chinese response that will force the issue.

The USA is just waiting for a reason to blockade China without looking like the aggressors.

>> No.15161077

>>15161065
I use 5 different languages, how many can you use? Ah?

>> No.15161082

>>15160939
Based doggo anon, if you are here please bless us with your presence again.

>> No.15161086

>>15160936
Anons, watch this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lscn0TrXoyE

Kyle Bass was talking about all this 5 months ago. It perfectly surmises the situation here. He predicted this shit just like he predicted the financial crisis of '08 a year or so before it hit.

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>>15160970

>> No.15161116

>>15161086
Wealthy Chinese are getting their money out of China before it's worthless. Remember how China "owned the U.S."? Well they're selling all those U.S. treasuries because they're desperate for cash.

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>>15161116

>> No.15161147

>>15160939

Whew been renting for years waiting for a housing dip.

>> No.15161153

Does the mean the kung pow chicken really is cat and it;s not just a meme

>> No.15161164

>>15161077
But do you know how to poo in the loo?

>> No.15161169

>>15161129
>good news for the US that liquidity is being sucked out of the US bond market

What a retard

>> No.15161183

>>15160970
where will chinks go when they cant get USD

>> No.15161195

>>15161169
You understand that bonds are ultimately only redeemable at their maturity date, meaning that they’re being sold to someone else who will have to hold them for the duration, right? R..right?

>> No.15161204

>>15161086
fucking hell big brain kyle bass called it
AGAIN

>> No.15161219

>>15161169
>I don't know what a Bond is
Thank you Kanye very cool

>> No.15161327

This guy also took a huge hit in 2017 with the yuan. I hope he's right since I hate the chinese smugness but also don't want people to lose everything...Wouldn't mind buying some cheap homes though. Comfy in crypto.

>> No.15161351

>>15161195
huh? The only thing I understood was "mature" since its one of my favorite tags.

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>>15161086
He literally says it right here:

https://youtu.be/CrAMfEcWU2M?t=870

>> No.15161415

>>15161398
GO TO 14:30 ANONS MY BAD I FUCKED UP THE LINK

>> No.15161474

>>15161398
Jesus Christ.. nice find. This should be the top thread on biz right now

>> No.15161529

what's the move here fellas? btc? gold? bonds? is this finally it?

>> No.15161546

>>15161398
Hahaha the host smiling like a retard

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>tfw my job is related to the sale of coal to china

im fucked arent i

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looks like other European banks might be involved.. not just HSBC. This could be much bigger than we thought

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>> No.15161600

>>15161398

all he says is there were marketplace rumors. can anyone red pill me on this Kyle bass guy? does he have insider info?

>> No.15161616

>>15161598

what is the fall out of the lack of lending going to be?

>> No.15161617

>>15161552
I hope not, wtf else are the chinese btc miners gonna run their farms on? Cow farts?

>> No.15161641

>>15161588
>>15161598
So I wonder what banks are involved?
Santander? Imagine if it's DB...

>> No.15161642

well they have 6.2 trillion in US treasury, so how does defaulting on 400 billy help China?

not trolling, just curios

>> No.15161643

>>15161598
can someone explain what this means?
a trade war will cause global financial recession because china is leveraged out and needs money?

how does this relate to them devaluing their currency, was it a tactic to keep it afloat?

>> No.15161669

Also why was the CEO fired?
was it a bad business decision to lend 400 billion to PBOC or is it illegal, I don't understand

>> No.15161688

>>15161669
I don't understand either. Isn't that what banks do.

>> No.15161697

>>15161643
it means that Trump is an idiot

He picked a fight with China but the US doesn't actually export anything or make anything so obviously we lose a "trade" war

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>>15161616
>>15161643

I found this on /pol/. Basically China desperate needs Western capital to continue its development, but the devaluation of its currency will cause Westerners to run on the banks. Trump is a dumbass and thinks China is devaluing their currency, but actually the exact opposite is happening. The Chinese are desperately trying to hold it up. There's also larger macro trends to consider

>> No.15161715

>>15161600
Yeah he plays guitar for tenacious d

>> No.15161725

>>15161701
kek this is fucking hilarious

>> No.15161729

>>15161398
Epic find

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>>15160936
>CEO
>HSBC
>BOE
>PBOC

>> No.15161741

>>15161732
I hope that isn't serious

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>>15161715

>> No.15161751

>>15161701
To borrow from Peter Zeihan:

China's economy was always based on decentralized supply chains, globalization and global stability and capital rich boomers injecting money into their economy. But all those things are going away. Their demographics are as fucked as the senescent European populations and their internal banking systems are rotten to the core.

>> No.15161768

>>15161751

These European banks apparently entered secret deals to prop up the Chinese banks that gave rotten loans. Remember, in China it don't matter if you can make a legitimate product. They just care about employment, that's it. Beacause it's an authoritarian country and if people are employed they aren't marching in the streets demanding revolution. So a lot of Chinese "growth" was actually a scam and a lot of bad loans stacked up

>> No.15161774

>>15161069
bruh... USA isn't going to war with China over some HK protesters getting merked. You remember Tiennamen Square?!
China and US economies are too interlinked for a conventional war to be in either side's best interest.

>> No.15161780

>>15161732
Alright, I'll help.

Chief Executive Officer (leader of the company as elected by the shareholders)

Hong Kong Shanghai Bank of Commerce (one of the largest banks in the world. Relic of British Imperial rule in Asia)

Bank of England (government arm of British banks)

People's Bank of China (government arm of Chinese banks)

>> No.15161792

Keep this discussion going without any mention of the word chink. If you feel the need to be racist for whatever reason, you do not belong here and you need to get the fuck outta here. This board is not a place to express your racists views. I wont be telling you this again.

>> No.15161803

>>15160936
>>15160936
But is the rumor true?

>> No.15161807

>>15161415
Time links don't work when embedded anyway, unless that's just me?

>> No.15161816

>>15161792
I entirely agree. This board should focus on empowering minorities.

In fact, I have a very important announcement to make.

>> No.15161823

>>15161807
Did you say Timo ?

>> No.15161824

>>15160981
I think he means the value of the homes will fall below what people owe on them

>> No.15161837

>>15161816
Chink?

>> No.15161840

you americans fail to realize that USA is a failed state. China is the new superpower

>> No.15161847

>>15161792
Stfu no one gives a shit, nice attention whoring moron here is your (you)

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>USA goes to war with China
>Russia fucks us in the ass

Russia is the new Hegemony. You have to hand it to those fuckers, they already figured out how to influence/control the internet

>> No.15161875

>>15161069
lol no. US couldnt even take iraq, you really think the US could defeat AND occupy china? delusional. China would get their ass kicked if they tried to attack and occupy us, but we would have the same thing happen to us if we tried to fight them as well. Dont forget, they have a nuclear arsenal as well; worst case scenario both US and china would lose. youre simply not being realistic about this

>> No.15161883

>>15161875
>but we would have the same thing happen to us if we tried to fight them as well

meant to say that the same thing would happen to us if we tried to fight them on their home turf

>> No.15161885

>>15161816
appologies for the misunderstanding this is a white and asian enlightenment and prosperity board. please check in at /pol/ for your orientation and preparation

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also kek are the subhuman sudacas, pajeet and yuro trash screeching and squeeling and cheering for USA to fail. I guarantee you, whether the next Hegemony be China or Russia, your lives will only become even more miserable and irrelevant than they already are

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>>15161768
lmao this has been obvious for years to anyone with a brain who has actually spent time on the ground in mainland china. Malinvestment everywhere. It's a miracle the day of reckoning has taken this long.

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>>15161867
Russia is deep in chinese pockets. The only thing that will that will keep them afloat is their gold (and BTC) reserves

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-03-29/russia-is-stocking-up-on-gold-as-putin-ditches-u-s-dollars

https://cointelegraph.com/news/russian-president-putin-orders-government-to-adopt-crypto-regulation-by-july-2019

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if this is all true its the biggest financial scandal this century millions of people will lose their pensions because some CEO used it to finance ghost cities in China

>> No.15161905

>>15161899
Maybe each boomer can be given a free chinese ghost city condo?

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>>15161840

>he said posting on an American image board via the internet which was also invented by AmeriCANS.

Imagine trying to actually argue with an American on their home turf and thinking you have a chance of winning. USA! USA! USA!

>> No.15161912

>>15161600
Most vocal China bear. Has called for a ~40% drop in value of Yuan

>> No.15161916

>>15160936
Rumors circulating they're going for UND. Strap in.

>> No.15161934

>>15161875

America wouldn't need to occupy China, it would just need to defeat their Navy off their coast and maybe bomb a few of their coastal cities.

You don't start land wars in Asia.

Remember, pretty much all of China's development in the last 40 years has been in the industrial cities on the coast. These could be bombed.

Of course forces in South Korea and Taiwan would probably be either occupied or take heavy damage by China/North Korea until America forces can concentrate enough force.

That is, if they have enough force by the time the fight starts, which is questionable in 10 years time.

>> No.15161950

>>15161898

Russia has remarkably low amounts of private and public debt.

Whether that is because of prudent government or a reluctance/inability of Westerns to provide debt is up for debate.

>tfw I remember the Russian Ruble going from 15 per dollar to 80 per dollar in 2014/2015

>> No.15161952

>>15161840
lmao

>> No.15161978
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>>15161905

>> No.15162013

>>15161086
>>15161398

that's fucking badass. I really, really want to believe he's right.

>> No.15162032

>>15161952
Arrogant mutt detected

>> No.15162051

>>15161195
You realize the secondary market for treasuries and corporate accounts for trillions in fixed income accounts r-right? If they can't buy higher yielding safe assets and have buyers for their longer term treasuries the entire retirement bubble pops you know that r-right? You also realize that china dumping treasuries and drying up buying pressure liquidity will push down the yield exponentially as your longer term treasuries will trade at face value with nobody buying them r-right?

You realize you should fuck back off to r-r*ddit with your psuedo intellectual bullshit r-right?

>> No.15162054

China has been doing this for years and if you didn't know this your a faggot

>> No.15162056

>>15160936
Based

>> No.15162059

>>15162054
the world best kept secret

>> No.15162089

>>15161792
kys chink rat

>> No.15162096

>>15161780
What exchange are the coins on?

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>>15161792

>> No.15162149

>>15161934

>America wouldn't need to occupy China, it would just need to defeat their Navy off their coast and maybe bomb a few of their coastal cities.

at some point occupation forces would be needed, you're delusional if you think otherwise. just because you handwave this point doesnt magically invalidate it.

you obviously havent been paying attention to china's research in asymmetric weaponry if you think the scenario you stated is plausible in the year 2019. A US attack on the chinese mainland would be an absolute slaughter in terms of US casualties; thats not even taking into account the fact that russia would probably jump in as well to help out china. The truth is, it would be very unpredictable and not a walk in the park like you are trying to suggest.

also you conveniently forget to address the nuke factor; its entirely possible that a losing china could decide to play the nuke card in which case everybody loses. Like I said, you damage your own credibility by being so sure that things will happen in this way or that way, its obvious that you dont consider the multifaceted and oftentimes unpredictable nature of war

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>>15161792
Oh god its this fucking jannie. I'm already getting sent to the underground FEMA camps for white neets when shit hits the fan, why cant I just use casual racial slurs with what time I have left you fucking nerd.

>> No.15162170

>>15161885
>>15161837
FUCK CHINKS
FUCK BANKERS
FUCK STOCKS
FUCK FIAT

1K EOY

NEVER FUCKING SELLING

>> No.15162203

>>15160981
>He doesn't know banks can call in a mortgage for immediate payment
Mortgagefags gunna get recked

>> No.15162246

Alright, I'm a brainlet, but what I'm getting from this is that it will be really bad for the US and global economy, but absolutely catastrophic for the chinks. Could this finally result in the collapse of the PRC government if their economy completey implodes?

>> No.15162249

>>15161169
>What a retard
P R O J E C T I N G
>>15161715
THIS, he must be able to turn his hand to anything!

>> No.15162289

>>15161732
he got screened for a couple STDs after a wild night out and his dick now looks like that green fractal broccoli ripoff vegetable

>> No.15162308

>>15161617

lol i just realised that btc hash power could drop

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>>15161600
he's an eternal bear, but only regarding things that he's correct about

>> No.15162335

In the end, it's large banks pitting countries against each other and profiting from both sides like ww2 again right?

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>>15161697
>>15161701
LOL@brainlet

"China is collapsing so it proves Drumpf is stoopid!"

I really need a Chinese version of NPC Wojak but since I don't have one, have Death instead.

>> No.15162488

>>15161792
How is a collection of letters racist? It's literally a shortening of a name. Chinese --> Chink.

Is calling British people Brits racist? Russian people Ruskies? Imagine being this dumb.

>> No.15162536

>>15161147
This

>> No.15162589

>>15161529
Anything that the Yellow Peril can use to move money out of China. Bitcorn is up 20% in just the last couple of weeks.

>>15161617
They have a source of money that will gain value relative to the Chinese yuan. What the fuck do you think they'll pay their bills with? It's the same reason Venezuelans can buy food with Bitcoin while bolivar notes are dumped in the streets to blow in the wind.

>>15162051
You don't understand how bonds work?

>pay twelve cents on the dollar for a bond that will mature in thirty years, yielding 7.2%
>yields drop to zero at the twenty year mark because safe haven
>sell the bond at face value, put the cash into CDs at 2.1%, and retire ten years early
winning.jpg

>>15162246
That's the dream.

>> No.15162617

>>15161701
This, and I honestly don't believe the medias confusion on the subject, I think it's more to keep exactly what's happening happening. China is so fucked, it will start slow, or well it did, but give it a year and these Hong Kong riots will seem like childs play.

>> No.15162692

>>15161792
Yes it is. You can't chase money without forgetting the scams. Scams come from dishonorable Chinese. Dishonorable Chinese are chinks.

>> No.15162713

>>15161641
>Imagine if it's DB...
Do I hope so. My puts will seriously pay off then.

>> No.15162740

good thread
how does this fit into the deutsche bank shit that went down last week?
This feels like 2007 all over again but global

>> No.15162748

>>15161069
Trump will not start a war if only because he wouldn't like the expense

>> No.15162762

USA is doomed. Only thing they are good at is race wars and complaining about more than 2 genders. China is the future

>> No.15162781

>>15162589
Only way your getting 12 cents on the dollar is if its a ghost town of a trading enviroment with that nice 88% spread between fed funds, AKA never in the history of treasuries brainlet. Further assuming market rates haven't dropped further then your bonds coupon rate you will always be selling for at least facevalue if not more because of your bonds accumulated worth, in your case about 72% more then the bonds value.
To top it off though I was telling you liquidity is good in the bonds market because it allows you to sell your 10-year maturity date 30-year initial bond to someone so you can indeed put that money into a CD like you want. So nice lesson on the literal fundamentals of the secondary bond market retard, but even your math is wrong so im gonna pass thanks. You dont even have a point to your drivel, your literally just explaining to me how your going to resell a bond you bought when were talking about how liquidity will effect your bonds resale value, which funny enough you didnt even factor into your argument. Get a job, have sex, and you need to go back brainlet.

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>>15161792

ping pong ting tong qing qong

>> No.15162789

>>15160936
>>15161086
>>15161398

I live in the Netherlands, Europe.
I have a house with a 30k mortgage (yes, the rest was crypto financed).
I have 10k Linkies.
I have 8k FIAT
I have 1k in SIlver.
I have a shitty 20h per week parttime job that I make about 1700 a month after taxes.

What do I do to come out of this recession as strong as possible with the least amount of work?
I'm obviously not NEETing but let's say I have NEETing somewhere in my DNA.

>> No.15162803

>>15162762
they said the same thing about Japan until 1991
after WW2 EVERY country (except maybe Britain) has had an economic miracle of one sort or another. Germany called it the Wirtschaftswunder. In France (yes, lol, France) they called it the trente glorieuses. Then Japan, then Korea, then China.
All were built on cheap credit, protectionism, and the Pax Americana.
And none of them were any more "the future" than the garbage USA.

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99% of the people on here don't understand the ghost cities in China. China does this for a reason and not to just inflate prices

>> No.15162821

>>15162812
So tell us the reason asshole

>> No.15162823

>>15162789

you're already doing better than everyone else desu

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Imagine owning zero crypto or metal when all this financial fraud has been obvious for years. We’re gonna make it boys just will have to survive the boogaloo

>> No.15163009

>>15162821
Urbanization. There is an effort to create a middle class of consumers.

>> No.15163087

>>15161898
>BTC reserves
Coiners are stupid

>> No.15163105

>>15161086
so what the fuck am I supposed to do? long USD vs RMD?

>> No.15163132

>>15162821
not be a faggot

>> No.15163202

>>15163105
Short paper/Fiat

>> No.15163205

>>15161069
The war will end before the first bullet is shoot. US and China economies are too much interlinked.

>> No.15163236

>>15161792
Is nigger ok?

>> No.15163331

>>15162942
Fuck my metal holdings are too low
5% silver, 2% plat, 8% gold, 10% rhodium (which might not fare too well if global economy collapses)

15% gold miners

Also 30% crypto which is almost all in Ethereum and bleeding.

5% normie stocks

20% cash

>> No.15163396

bluh bluh bluh

stock markets are parabolic for years now

fuck banks they can print money like they want they will never go bankrupt

im tired of you fucking incels thinking we need to stack ammos food and waters

fuck you all

6 years are you saying this

fuck your mother u get it?

fuck your family and kys

>> No.15163515

>>15163396
>>>/r/eddit

>> No.15163540

>>15161069
>implying there will ever be a conventional war between major powers again

>> No.15163580

>>15162803
All of those miracles are retardized versions of the American method of economic development. But instead of using the tariff to develop a sustainable internal market, the state picked winners and ended up becoming stagnant pieces of shit within a decade or two.

>> No.15163586

>>15161741
It's /biz/ you know he is!

>> No.15163593

>>15163205
Economic interdependence peace theory has not been shown to work in practice. I caution against relying on it.

>> No.15163653

>>15160936
beainlet here
what the fuck

>> No.15163677

>>15163580

This. America allowed Europe and Asia to develop just enough to ward off any Communist takeovers, but not enough to challenge US power.

There is only so much you can do with US troops stationed on your soil.

>> No.15163710

>>15163677
America doesn’t think like that, in the sense that America doesn’t think about much of anything. Europe, Japan et al ruined themselves; America was and remains totally asleep at the wheel. It doesn’t matter though, American dominance is effectively ensured well past our lifetimes, even if life extension technology really takes off.

>> No.15163761

>>15163710

>America doesn’t think like that, in the sense that America doesn’t think about much of anything. Europe, Japan et al ruined themselves; America was and remains totally asleep at the wheel.

Yeah, nah. I don't believe the trade policy of the largest economy in the world is not on purpose.

Export dollars, import goods.

>> No.15163768

>>15160939
Nice time stamp

>> No.15163915

>>15163761
It wasn’t on purpose. Certainly the USA doesn’t like it’s dollars going to China, just like it didn’t like it’s dollars going to Japan back in the 70s and 80s. Or the gold convertibility window being abused by a Europe getting back on their feet.

>> No.15163929

>>15161792
Thank you.

>> No.15164124

http://www.thestandard.com.hk/section-news.php?id=210388

>> No.15164165
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>>15163929
Get a load of this faggot

>> No.15164183

>>15164124
Noooo my gold

>> No.15164191

>>15164124
>currency swaps

this shit confuses me

>> No.15164229

>>15161875
my bet is on that USA will arm and support the rebels of HK if things heat up
another proxy war

>> No.15164251

>>15162812
I believe its to get china into debt so the creditors of the nation can start subjugating the people & the land of china. Like what happened in the west.
The only issue I have is china is already heavily controlled. I wonder what happens to the tax funds in china. Are taxes collected simply to pay the interest on the national debt like in the west?

>> No.15164253

>>15161792
How about you shut the fuck up, chink

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>>15164191
>transfer the swaps

>> No.15164457

>>15161792
Thanks for being here, anon. The racist vitriol was getting to me.

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>>15160936
>HSBC
good
they were laundering fentanyl money like you wouldn't believe
glad to see the hammer coming down on them for their crimes

>> No.15165086

>>15161792
Saying retarded shit like this is why your Coke always tastes like peepee.

>> No.15165760

>>15161643
it means us dollars skyrockets and a global recession.
Cryptos collapse too, even if initially they pump as chinks want to escape with any capital from china

>> No.15165842

>>15161129
>>15161169
>selling bonds
>the opposite of "dumping"
although it's true that part of the reason is to meet obligations to foreign entities

>> No.15166148

>>15162149
Just let the Japs and Koreans handle that. Chinese people are weak.

>> No.15166601

Bumping for an actual non-shitcoin focused discussion

>> No.15166675

>>15161741
>everyone doesnt know the acronym for every countries bank
only an autist or FOREX trader would know those of the top of their head

>> No.15166701

>>15163105
long EURAUD

>> No.15166739

>>15161588
Lol the Eurozone is fucked.

>> No.15166755

>>15163677

>America allowed Europe and Asia to develop just enough to ward off any Communist takeovers

Are you slow?

>> No.15166849

>>15162203
no they cant and even if they could what they wouldnt. wtf is a bank going to do with a bunch of empty houses in a declining market

>> No.15166854

>>15162149
It wouldn't be the US alone. Europeons, Japan, SEA, and India would go in to. The war wouldn't happen unless China went full Tienim Square on the protesters.

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>>15161792
You are right stop saying chink use bug instead

>> No.15167101

Anyone thinking the U.S. and China will go to war is a brainlet. Disregard their opinion. Anyone who even entertains such an idea to even argue against it should also be ignored.

>> No.15167130

>>15166675
t. filthy casual

>> No.15167136

>>15160939
I don't live in China retard.

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>>15167101
Wasn't Nancy Pelosi's driver a Chinese spy for, like, 20 years? Look how much nobody in the political and media establishment cared about that. Pooh Bear owns all of them, lol.

>> No.15167206

>>15162789
Register on quantfury, buy gold on leverage, short everything else.

>> No.15167352

>>15160939
>have a mortgage loan outstanding for LTV of 60% (40% of house paid off)
>have more cash in bank now to pay remaining 60% but hold onto it because leverage
>on 5 year fixed contract
>get charged more if I pay it off during 5 year contract (kek)
>decide to hold money myself, wait until contract is up then BOOM... paid

This is where I might be a brainlet, but I can only see a financial crisis as a good thing from here
>value of house drops (boo)
>5 year fixed contract ends and I negotiate loan amount to be repaid because value of house has dropped
>pay less during financial crisis because of everyone else defaulting and forcing the banks arm for me

Am I a brainlet missing something? Even if the bank refuses to accept a lower amount, I swoop in before interest rates and inflation affect my repayments, get another 5 year fixed, the use my capital buy up cheap real estate around me instead?

Also have a stash of ETH and LINK, only 0.2BTC though

>> No.15167708

>>15166675

fuck off we're full

>> No.15167788

>>15162422
go back

>> No.15167876

>>15161183
gold

>> No.15167916

>>15161875
>nuclear arsenal
You realize the US arsenal is literally thousands of times larger right? The US could glass China while they might get lucky and pick off a few cities. Then the 7th fleet docks on their front porch. It's over before it begins.

>> No.15168114

>>15161398
>>15161415
the shit before that is fascinating too, he mentioned china paying triads to incite violence in peaceful hong kong protests

>> No.15168228

>>15160981
All of Europe

>> No.15168450

>>15161792
gtfo chink

>> No.15168919

>>15161077
5 languages is the typical lie number

>> No.15168981
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>>15161086
>negative current account and negative fiscal balance makes a country a "double deficit" nation
>like Turkey and Argentina
Wait, doesn't that make America a double deficit nation? What am I missing?

>> No.15169025

>>15161129
>dumping
>"no its selling"
>the opposite.

lol what?

>> No.15169038

>>15160982
no, you should've bought lead.

>> No.15169049

Possibly fake

https://twitter.com/goldencaskcap/status/1159159060265984000?s=19

>> No.15169131

>>15161398
these uprising are from the cia starting shit there. Thats why thy used the chink mob. the chink mob go hand in hand at the top

>> No.15169178

>>15160936
So...buy more crypto?

>> No.15169375

>>15161600
He predicted the 08 crash.

>> No.15169401

>>15161792
Ok, how about:

动态网自由门 天安門 天安门 法輪功 李洪志 Free Tibet 六四天安門事件 The Tiananmen Square protests of 1989 天安門大屠殺 The Tiananmen Square Massacre 反右派鬥爭 The Anti-Rightist Struggle 大躍進政策 The Great Leap Forward 文化大革命 The Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution 人權 Human Rights 民運 Democratization 自由 Freedom 獨立 Independence 多黨制 Multi-party system 台灣 臺灣 Taiwan Formosa 中華民國 Republic of China 西藏 土伯特 唐古特 Tibet 達賴喇嘛 Dalai Lama 法輪功 Falun Dafa 新疆維吾爾自治區 The Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region 諾貝爾和平獎 Nobel Peace Prize 劉暁波 Liu Xiaobo 民主 言論 思想 反共 反革命 抗議 運動 騷亂 暴亂 騷擾 擾亂 抗暴 平反 維權 示威游行 李洪志 法輪大法 大法弟子 強制斷種 強制堕胎 民族淨化 人體實驗 肅清 胡耀邦 趙紫陽 魏京生 王丹 還政於民 和平演變 激流中國 北京之春 大紀元時報 九評論共産黨 獨裁 專制 壓制 統一 監視 鎮壓 迫害 侵略 掠奪 破壞 拷問 屠殺 活摘器官 誘拐 買賣人口 遊進 走私 毒品 賣淫 春畫 賭博 六合彩 天安門 天安门 法輪功 李洪志 Free Tibet 劉曉波动态网自由门

>> No.15169411

>>15167876
electroplated tungsten*

>> No.15169683

>>15166675
not gonna make it
t. 6btc 15k link

>> No.15169752

>>15167176
Poor bastard. Imagine having to drive the likes if pelosi around, listening to her pill and alcohol induced ramblings about her washed out time in politics and how important she is because california refuses to get some fucking sense so they keep voting her ass

>> No.15169868

My gf works for HSBC, should she be worried?

>> No.15169921

>>15161792

中国人 here. Please ignore this racist fucker. 4chan will insult everyone regardless of race, creed, sexual orientation or choice of bitcoin exchange. My pronouns are chink, slant eye and zipper head. Please do not use gook or nip, as technical accuracy is important in all things.

He may be weak minded and think my chink ass needs protection from mean people, but I am stronger than that. My right to self identification outweighs his bigoted sense of decorum.

>> No.15169940

>>15169921
Based slit eyed gook, god bless you

>> No.15169972
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15169972

My relatives are suspicious that some of the unusual activity in HK is to help cover for this problem, but no evidence, all speculation.

>>15169940
Dammit. I deserved that. Here take a pepe, straight from HK protests.

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>>15161398
>>15161415
>Despite his early success in predicting subprime mortgages, he has received criticism for subsequent poor performance of investments.[3] Bass has made prominent bets based on predictions of debt crisis in Japan and European sovereign debt, and shorted the Chinese yuan premised on a predicted collapse in the Chinese banking system. His fund has also challenged patents held by drug companies and shorted their stocks. His Japanese and European strategies have not been major successes and the Chinese yuan short led to severe losses for his fund in 2017.[4][5] The drug patent challenge campaign fizzled after several legal setbacks.[6]
So he is a literal doomer who was right one time?

>> No.15170053

>>15169972
I'm not really digging these HK pepes, whats the deal with these anyways?

>> No.15170090

>>15169972
Why are the dark green? Gooks are yellowish-pale.

>> No.15170257

>>15170053
Hong Kong has relatively free internet compared to the mainland. Pepe has become a symbol of young internet freedom.

Also, it's not like HK has any visual iconography of it's own that would be recognized in the west. Copying shit is natural to them.

>> No.15170276

>>15169921
fucking based

>> No.15170290

>>15170257
Got you, godspeed to those HK people, it seems like a losing battle though. Are you in HK?

>> No.15170308

>>15166849
Yes they can in the USA.

>> No.15170496

>>15161069
There will never be an open war between global powers until/unless nuclear weapons become obsolete

>> No.15170511

>>15170496
(((USA))) is doing China like we did venezuelas

>> No.15170513

>>15164229
>Rebels of HK
Sissies in HK would get absolutely destroyed by the PLA if they ever tried anything like that. The only hope for Hong Kong is if the mainland stops being a totalitarian shithole in 2047

>> No.15170565

>>15170290
If I were I wouldn't admit it. My family got the FUCK out when it was clear that China wasn't going to Hong Kongify shanghai, but was planning to go the other way. The financial hit to buy your way out early is cheap hedge against bribery and civil war, or trying to buy out at the last second.

Exactly what's going to happen in HK is unknown, but being a potential destabilizing force within gun range of the PRC is a pursue lu bu sort of strategy.

>> No.15170592

>>15164229
I would bet against that. But everyone in Taiwan who was saying "One China, Two systems! You can trust China not to fuck up shit because it will hurt the economy. We might reunite in the future and it will be fine." is looking like a complete idiot right now.

>> No.15170621

>>15161077
I would rather be an expert in one language than mediocre in five.

>> No.15170656

>>15169921
Absolutely based chink anon.

t. Filthy gweilo

>> No.15170685

>>15170565
Interesting, I'm assuming you are a dual citizen outside of china then. I hope you don't have your assets still tied to china now that the chinese government wants cash back in

>> No.15170691

>>15170053
Forced
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>> No.15170749

>>15160939
was this on /biz/? if so, why the fuck do I miss all the good threads

>> No.15170840

>>15170621
It's objetively way more useful to know more languages mediocrily than to be an expert in a sole language

>> No.15170869

>>15170840
No. It is better to be proficient with your native language and the lingua franca than be crap at many.

>> No.15170923

>>15169401
>leaving out winnie the pooh section
fuck off chink

>> No.15171445

my moms house has a fixed rate mortgage is she still fucked lol

>> No.15171601

>>15160970
Considering the chinese were the ones hoarding video cards and doing the mining I'd expect bitcoin/crypto to go tits up as soon as they need the money and start selling en masse

>> No.15171652

>>15166675
I'm a certifiable moron and I knew those acronyms

>> No.15171662

>>15170685
The PRC has bagged second generation people who aren't even citizens. I've already pre recorded lots of pictures of me and my family being patriotic here for my family to show the international press if it ever happens.

Assets in china are always at risk of being seized, with the biggest defense China's policy of wanting stability. Seizing assets is risky for your reputation. Just ask South Korea or Venezuela. This need for stability is the interesting part of the fight in HK. The LAST thing you would think they want is political instability in their primary financial hub at this time.

As with anything, it's always about correctly assessing risk, and being diversified. If you've got the stomach for it, there are probably Chinese assets available for sale cheap.

>>15170749
Because it's drowned out by loads of small time retards peddling no name virtual currency.

>>15170691
The very idea of 4chan is a complete mental explosion for mainlanders. It's about as un PRC of a concept as humanly possible.

>>15170656
Respect and love cannot be held back by bad language. Be the most prosperous best filthy gweilo you can be.

>> No.15171668

>>15166849
In the US we bulldozed them because why not
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/banks-turn-to-demolition-of-foreclosed-properties-to-ease-housing-market-pressures/2011/10/06/gIQAWigIgL_story.html?noredirect=on

>> No.15171685

>>15160939
My two rentals pay my mortgage with a 400 dollar profit :3

I’ll be fine if it gets real bad I’ll sell one even if it’s at a loss I will not lose my McMansion :3

>> No.15171692

>>15171668
WTF so instead of letting people buy in cheap theu bulldoze them to keep the market propped up? wtf, this shit is peak fucking lunacy

>> No.15171698

>>15170050
Well, he'll be right all the time if you give him long enough

>> No.15171719

>>15171692
Welcome to clown world.
Honk honk

>> No.15171962

>>15161195
You do realize that an investor who buys a bond from the Chinese is no longer open to buy from elsewhere, right? Hence diminished liquidity

>> No.15172009

>>15171685
>Thinks he can sell, even for a loss
>Doesn't understand the bank can call in the mortgage
Guessing you've not been in the rental game long

>> No.15172043

>>15171719
Anon, it appears you didn’t read the article:
>The demolitions in some cases have paved the way for community gardens, church additions and parking lots.
And that’s a good thing!

>> No.15172106

>>15161351
Underrated

>> No.15172128

>>15172043
Oh good, more spots for homeless tent cities to pop up! and in california, you cannot tell them to fuck off since it is against the law. Since homelessness is the future for a lot of us, they are actually looking out for the common man.

>> No.15172165

>>15172043
Why do you expect this bank to give two shits?