/biz/ - Business & Finance

tripfags out reee

>>15087779
awww kitty <3

>>15087793
ok, now THIS is based

>>15087803
>Goros

nice ID

>>15087802
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75y-fIrvkow

What do /smg/ bros do on the weekends. Coming from crypto I find the pacing of the stock market unique and I have gotten really good sleep lately.

>>15087828
THEY CALL ME THUMPER

SMG is gay as fuck

>>15087843
I imagine on the weekend most /smg/ays: spend time with loved ones, read the news/books, shitpost, play vidya, research prospective stock/options plays for next week, mess with code, get blackout drunk, watch/stream videos, study (Pendy), go on dates, count money, hunker down in the corner in the fetal position

>>15087877
4 u

FUCK OFF SMG THIS IS A LINK BOARD

I just wanted to say I'm sorry to everybody I've pissed off over the years.

>>15087843
i've been trying to figure this out of a long time. I think I'm going to cut the grass tomorrow, watch the NYY vs BOS baseball games and if there's time I'll try to find some ducks to feed.

>>15087894
I get drunk and read books and laugh at the news and spend time with my family
I read about firearms and history and shoot muh guns pew pew

>>15087843
>>15087894
Trade crypto, watch streams and play games. That's my weekends, like many others on 4chan I don't have a social life

>>15087894
>>15087908
>>15087915
>>15087922
Sounds really comfy bros. I am getting buzzed on some blended red wine. Usually I go with vodka or whiskey but too tired to make a second stop after the supermarket on the way home. Earlier I played with my dog in the middle of a rainstorm.

>>15087843
I'm a bartender so I usually work during the weekends. If I'm not working, I try to read/study for school, play vidya, trying to get into photography right now ass well.

>>15087843
I do occult readings to help predict next week stock market.

>>15087843
>>15087894
I pretty much fucked up my social life after dropping out of college so I just kinda do whatever. Guns, alcohol, netflix, cook, practice coding, fantasize about improving my credit score to get a loan for a down payment on a house where i airbnb the thing out to tourists, maybe see my one old highschool friend i haven't absolutely rekt yet, visit mum for dinner. Just lame normie stuff.

>>15087957
That sounds comfy anon. What do you do in your apartment?

>>15087907
Ohhhh stinkiesssss, stinky linkies stinky

>>15087995
Usually play vidya on my PC or binge on whatever youtube channel i'm obsessed with.
>>15087981
Being a bartender sounds tough I hate being social especially when forced. I went through a photography phase and now I have a D3300 with a few lenses that I use maybe once a month.

>>15087843
I drink, and usually I watch a movie on Saturday nights
Also the Neopets stock market is open on the weekend ;^)

>>15087992
I'm the exact, exact same story dobbler (except I would never watch netflix and my credit score is approaching 800)

I have no idea where the time goes... I just know I don't spend it watching the market.

I do trade crypto, but only once a day when the fear/greed index is updated. Fools getting way too greedy, finna get rekt.

How the fuck do you keep track of your time and not fritter it away?

>>15087992
>pretty much fucked up my social life after dropping out of college
;_;
bro
that feel
oh god my life
>>15087981
How do you get into bartending?

>>15087992
Normie shit is pretty underrated. Keeps us grounded. That sucks about your credit score, hopefully you can get it back up there. I'm a 700+ chad but I wanna work my way up to 800.

Once you buy your first house your credit score doesn't matter anymore
IMO
Don't even know what mine is, all I know is I got 3.75% for 20% down a couple years ago

>>15088125
if you have the cash too buy what you need your credit score is basically meaningless.

>>15088071
most netflix shows are garbage, but i got really into aggretsuko and bojack horseman. Highly recommend.
>>15088075
I was always "The Quiet Kid" (tm) so i don't care all that much, but it would be nice to have some actual friends i see regularly for the weekends. my mum is starting to get to that when-will-you-bring-a-cute-girl-to-dinner-with-us phase too.
>>15088100
yea i'll prolly start doing something about that soon. I don't even care about the jew score but something tells me I can't really show a banker my robinhood account as proof that I won't default lol. But i did that for my current apartment so who even knows.

>>15087779
Quality picture

>>15088141
Hey we can't all just run to the bank of mom and pops when we need some money for hookers and gambling
Sometimes a man has to work to put food on the table or put a roof over his head
Sometimes a man has to take a 30 year fixed loan to buy his first house.

>>15088125
>>15088141
I agree with both posts, but for people starting out or low on cash that need to finance a car/house/etc regular cash flow (a good paying job) + good credit score is pretty clutch. I think the average rate for a 15 year fixed is somewhere in the 3.60% ballpark but with trade war shit heating up it should be falling, right?

>>15088047
It's not too bad, I've always liked being the guy who mixes drinks and shit.

I've actually been into photography since I was in high school, and I've actually had a few free lance gigs shooting sports photos, but I'm trying to take it more seriously and maybe make it more than just a hobby. Right now I don't hold a candle to anyone on /p/ though.

>>15088194
Hey what are your top three favorite mixed drinks (to drink, not to make)?
Any drinks that you hate making?
Any drinks that are a special regional flavor that the country at large doesn't know about?
I'm headed to the liquor store after work y'know

>>15088227
Gin and tonic
Rum and coke
Dry martini (with vodka, not gin)

Maybe if im out at a restaurant (aka freeloading because everything goes to robinhood) i'll get a hurricane or some other 'girly' cocktail. You know, I've always wanted to try a pousse cafe (pic), mostly for the lulz. I've heard it's not actually that good.

>>15088141
>if you have the cash too buy what you need your credit score is basically meaningless.


going to buy a house with the pocket change still left in your RH account ?

what a retard

>>15088227
try this one bro,
diet dr.pepper.
your choi=ice of spiced rum
some fresh squeeze lime juice

i order that at bars and they named it after me

>>15088283
Is your name Diet Dr. No?

>>15088283
What do they call it if you use normal.dr. pepper?

Aren't all the fake sugar things in diet soda supposed to be bad for you?

>>15088058
based
buy LUPE

>>15088310
>buy LUPE
why? Give at least some solid research ... technical ? fundamental? jezus

>>15088152
It's okay Mark.
Being the quiet kid doesn't mean we want to be alone.

anybody familiar with PPT income trust? 7.89% yield and pretty stable price. too good to be true?

>>15088227
To drink for me:
1. Dark n' Stormy
2. Captain on Acid
3. Breakfast Shot
4. (in case you don't count shot as a mixed drink) Orange Creamsicle Martini

I hate making Orange Crushes for some reason. They just piss me off. Not sure if there's any special regional drink I know of, but I have a friend that mixes Jager with Coors Light.

>>15088362
(((Lupert Murdoch))) has been suppressing the share price on purpose so he can lower his average. They're conspiring with TAG (The Auction Genie) to do some sort of credit swap, I don't know the exact details. They're also going to pay off debts and focus on the consumer experience in Neopia Central. Didn't you listen to their earnings call? By Q1 2020 they'll be more valuable than STFP

looking forward to the weekend I see

>>15088310
Wow, I hope thats not recent because I kept all my wealth on POWR and SMUG

>>15088459
I feel like you would like this anime girl

https://myanimelist.net/character/171130/Hitoha_Hongou

I feel like people have been trying to make a video game as good as Neopets for the past 15 years. And they haven't quite done it yet. That game came out before web 2.0 and it had everything. So much content. The only thing that comes close in age and scope is RuneScape, but I think Neopets is noticeably older.
Is there a phone version of Neopets yet?

>>15088071
>I would never watch netflix
Weird flex, but OK.

>>15088603
NeoPets is my first game — I'll never fucking forget it.

>>15088503
maybe
if she teleported to another story

Me ordered meal from every food truck in city
Think have food poisoning now X_X

>>15087795
Both O_O

>>15087988
Hail

Are we forgetting about the tariffs and getting pumped again about the 0.25% rate cut next week, Dark Lord?

>>15088771
Nothing gets me off so much as inverse guro
Just the idea of two (or more) people being together without causing physical harm to each other. It's just so hot to me for some reason

I got into PINS shortly after the IPO when they shat down to like 26-28 range. I liked that unlike a lot of recent companies that ipo'd they seemed to have a bit of common sense and wasn't burning cash like mad. So I jumped in.

So far my gamble has paid off. Who knows? Maybe this will be like getting Facebook in the early 2000's. I know I'll be celebrating if I see one day the price per is hitting $100 or hell even $80. But one step at a time. Hope they keep the ball rolling. Another gamble I got in was KDP. Could end up being like bagging KO in the 1950's.

don't be like this scammer
>>15087014

>>15089024
Which do you think has better fundamentals KDP or PINS? Why?

Buy HSGX
"Histogenics stockholders will continue to own their existing shares"
The reverse split from the merger will only target outstanding shares. The merger is coming in September. This shit is basically free money.

>>15088227
>>15088283
Making dirty mojitos has been the best choice I‘ve made all day.

>>15089174
using a linux distro there Dobber?

>>15089148
I like both companies. KDP has a lot of value thanks to the Kureig machine. So many different applications for it. I'm sure that each time some company makes a "thing" for that machine they end up paying KDP a fat royalty fee with the branding and all required on the packaging. Then you have the other brands under the umbrella, drinks,coffee,etc.

KO is not going anywhere but soft drinks is there bread and butter. They know the tide is turning so they bought that coffee company and is now launching an alcoholic beverage. So yeah..

>>15089243
ubuntu masterrace
I'll invest in msft but i won't damn use them.

>>15087843
Wageslave. I'm doing it now. Place is dead, which is nice, but it's hot out and job is outdoors, not as nice.

>>15088603
It's possibly the best game ever made in my opinion, I probably have over 1000 hours in it. I would play it all day after school when I was a kid. I think the secret sauce that made it so good was that it was made by scientologists, they understand psychology and how people derive pleasure to a dangerous degree.
>>15088477
anon... I...
>>15088663
The CIA hides strange frequencies and viral ideas in all netflix shows, they can make anyone on earth kill themselves if they watch it. Instant undetectable assassination. The real danger is netflix's sociological effects though, anyone who watches it carries some degree of it's programming with them at all times and can spread it through speech

>>15089300
I can believe the social programming netflix induces. I watched Tuca and Bertie and now I actually have slightly more sympathetic towards women and their daily struggles. God, I literally cannot imagine it because I am a man.

I do gotta say tho the scene where pete gets weird about touching bertie with the banana roux and then her running into the bathroom to get off was kinda hot if not fucked up.

i got fucked today, biz.. and not in a good way

/blog

>>15089300
I think... you’re thinking too much into it. The real damage being done by all the distraction and amusement is basically distraction and amusement. We take little time to actually think, and we find less and less interest in the real world.
>>15088907
That’s rough. Very difficult to live out that fantasy in real life.

>>15089300
>The CIA hides strange frequencies and viral ideas in all netflix shows, they can make anyone on earth kill themselves if they watch it. Instant undetectable assassination. The real danger is netflix's sociological effects though, anyone who watches it carries some degree of it's programming with them at all times and can spread it through speech

ummm you might want to see a qualified Dr about this paranoid delusion.
wait... lemme guess.. you think they are also part of the conspiracy too..

>>15089460
>>15089102
You just discovered this General today, didn’t you?
You’re very new.

Are you the poster who was asking about rate cuts last night?

>>15089536
>You’re very new.

No just getting real tired this guys bullshit

>>15087014

>>15078769

>>15089588
Baggie is hilarious, if you don't like him you can always filter his trip

>>15089588
>TVIX is reporting tonight
Big lawl

>>15089720
tvix for life niggers

Dis reports earning next week. Big ass rubber stamp that says "Profit out the ass bitches" is about all it amounts to.

But who knows? The way the market is acting such good news may tank the stock. Look at GE, they reported good earnings, better than before yet the stock sank like a rock. So yeah..

>>15089639
>Baggie is hilarious
or we can call the loser out
and tell him to quit his bullshit

it's no joke to commit fraud and try to trick investors and scam people's money for his personal profit.

>>15089785
They’re doing a lot of buying, investing into the new service and the parks, but they’ve sold a lot of movie tickets too.

I’m more looking forward to the reveal of the actual product which I think is also this month.

>>15089807
Ummm anon, baggie is a novelty account, and he is drunk half the time. I really hope you didn’t follow his advice.

The real ironic part is, the trip user you quoted who was talking shit to baggie, he is an actual pumper, a real fraud and scammer trying to trick people for his benefit.

You gotta spend some more time reading and you’ll figure things out.

>>15089837
>Ummm anon, baggie is a novelty account, and he is drunk half the time. I really hope you didn’t follow his advice.
weak weak weak argument there

there's no excuse for fraud and considered criminal by the SEC.

>The real ironic part is, the trip user you quoted who was talking shit to baggie, he is an actual pumper, a real fraud and scammer trying to trick people for his benefit.

This is my point exactly:
>just getting real tired this guys bullshit

just a whole bunch of bullshit and fraud here on SMG

Where is SNSS anon? Doesn't he know that this is costing me money?

>>15089901
Oh. You're only pretending to be retarded.
Awesome.

>>15089243
>linux
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called “Linux”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project. There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use.
Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called “Linux” distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

>>15089901
Jesus fucking Christ, are we going to have to put some disclaimer in the OP or something? What if it said * NOTICE! THIS THREAD IS FULL OF BRAINLETS, BIZLETS, AND SHITPOSTING! NOTHING POSTED HERE IS INVESTMENT ADVICE! NOBODY THAT POSTS HERE IS A REGISTERED OR CERTIFIED INVESTMENT ADVISOR! DYOR AND DYRE! * Would that make you feel better?

Fuck Trump. There, I said it. I bought back into tim apple after the positive earnings, and NOT 3 HOURS LATER THE MOTHERFUCKER HIKES TARIFFS. On FUCKING TWITTER. Oh well there's $100 up in smoke. If only I could go back in time and exchange that for the $100 I donated to his campaign (I was/am a moron /pol/tard).

At least he can't touch muh telecoms.

>>15090076
yeah man i feel you. not even the decency to do it on the weekend so we could all unload our baggage fairly.

>>15090058
>put some disclaimer in the OP or something? What if it said * NOTICE! THIS THREAD IS FULL OF BRAINLETS, BIZLETS, AND SHITPOSTING!

Good idea, add to that:

This site contains known criminal activity, scams, fraud, pump and dump schemes, and stock price manipulation. Investigation by the DOJ and SEC is pending.

>>15089785
Same thing happened to SQ. Before this week I'd say any long DIS strategy going into earnings was as close to a sure thing as you could get but now I just dunno

>>15089992
i laughed but only because im on my second dirty mojito.

>>15090120
I would fucking hope the SEC has better things to do than lurk /biz/ and try to arrest people for obvious shitposting but we are living in clown world so who knows. While they are at it I guess they better round up all the people posting charts on Twitter and Tradingview, all the telegram crypto channels, and all of stocktwits so they can make sure we're all safe.

>>15090148
I used to drink mojitos and drink with mint in them a lot (and mint tea, etc.)
then I found out about mint and I had to cut down on my mint intake

>>15090120
That’s libel, I’ll sue your ass.

>>15090076
Haha wow. I can’t seriously imagine donating to a politician, but I guess I’m old enough to know better than to put my hope in those fuckers.

You could’ve gotten 2 $50 blow jobs.
Hell, you could’ve just stuck it in the S&P.

>>15090120
i would never pump and dump. I give honest recommmendations that i adhere to myself. Please anons, go write covered calls on stable blue chip stocks like microsoft or amd. You will receive fantastic gains at less risk than holding normal stock ordinarily. This is not investment advice.

Is there a better stock to hold long term than AT&T? I don't know anything about the stock market

>>15090076
>Fuck Trump
How dare you insult the Emperor.
His majesty is to be worshiped.

>>15090177
Found our about mint?

>>15090177
oh no does mint reduce Testosterone?
but they're so good...
>>15090208
qyld. see >>15090185 i used to hold over 400 shares until i went balls deep amarin with 1.1k shares.

>>15090120
I feel like people who pick stocks based on what someone from 4chan said without making any other research deserve what they get to be honest

>>15090208
better long term holds will be mutual funds and ETFs

get some KNG in your life
get some KHC and NWL in your house
put some of that sweet SGMO in your veins and that dank HEXO in your lungs
Get that T on your phone though, nothing wrong with that. Get some VZ and NOK to go with it, you know how we do it here.

>>15090240
KNG is like QYLD but better

>>15090215
All hail our Emperor (and Israel)!

>>15090240
How was losing all that?

>>15090208
>Is there a better stock to hold long term than AT&T? I don't know anything about the stock market
Great idea anon. You've come to the right place to ask for financial advise.

see above:
>NOTICE! THIS THREAD IS FULL OF BRAINLETS, BIZLETS, AND SHITPOSTING!
>This site contains known criminal activity, scams, fraud, pump and dump schemes, and stock price manipulation. Investigation by the DOJ and SEC is pending.

>>15090219
Some studies have shown it to lower testosterone. It’s a real bummer, honestly.
>>15090240
Well alcohol lowers T too so...

You sold out of QYLD during the dip? Interesting strategy... I’m HODLing all my stocks for absolutely no reason right now. I was literally staring at my portfolio the moment the tariffs were announced.

>>15090251
Deserve is a strong word. Just because you leave your wallet on you dashboard doesn’t mean you “deserve” to have your window busted and wallet stolen. But you sure as hell made it a lot more likely.

Tech blue chips don’t seem like the thing to buy right now. Getting the feeling it’s time in the cycle to buy PEP, MO, and JNJ. Also MA and cash.

>>15090297
nah i sold the qyld at around the 23.30 range to go into amarin. Tbh if amarin goes anymore south (waiting for next week to see) i will buy 100 msft and use the proceeds from writing calls on that to buy qyld indefinitely.

>>15090297
Qyld is pretty stable. I had a lot of money in low volatility stonks and pulled out a lot today and bought shit that dropped 5% or more that i think will rebound next week. If im right i’ll buy back in what i had before, if wrong I’ll wait...

>>15090289
You have to put the whole disclaimer, you can't just put the bizlet part in there you moron

>>15090266
We still long on NWL? I'm thinking of buying more since its cheap right now

>>15090352
I mean I really would suggest buying it under $14
I mean, I did suggest buying it under $14 and under $15.

NWL is on a long-term turnaround strategy to regain maximum profitability of its brands.
So it definitely still has room to continue growing its earnings and paying down debt, while increasing the dividend the entire way.
I'm overweight NWL but that's because I was buying it cheap.
It's still cheap but not as cheap. Buy it, sure, but don't expect another 10% pump. It's a stock that you want to be patient with. Buy it and enjoy the payout growth and stock price growth over the next couple decades.

>>15090352
>NWL? I'm thinking of buying more since its cheap right now

its cheap for a reason retard

>>15090390
shit chart + shit fundamentals
= shit investment

>>15090352
>>15090390
bots / troll farms programmed to pump and dump like this perfectly timed example

Fuck yeah https://twitter.com/STOCKMASTER2000/status/1156182929829179392

>>15090215
>His majesty is to be worshiped.
Is that what you do every time he nukes the S&P? Are you short or do you just hate money?

>>15090208
Long AT&T is a bet that a) the US telecom sector is going to remain lucratively uncompetitive for at least the next few years, and b) they will be able to grow their media businesses. a) is pretty safe unless somebody decides to go all Reliance Jio on us. I like HBO, so I'm into b) as well. That's about the extent of my research desu.

Conventional wisdom is that MSFT, AAPL, GOOG, and AMZN are all good for the long term.

>>15090444
>ttps://twitter.com/STOCKMASTER2000/status/1156182929829179392

>>15090392
>>15090416
>>15090439
You sound mad that you missed a fatty pump
I understand your unhappiness
but you could have bought NWL like I said and made money with the chads
you didn't
you can get as mad at the chart as you want to

>>15090499
>you could have bought NWL like I said and made money

fucking retard the whole tme you've been pumping it fell look at the chart it fell over 5% the other day now it's barely breaking even .

>>15090546
my average is 14.60, because there has been plenty opportunity to keep buying in under $15
Of course an average under $14 would be nicer, but I didn't want to get greedy and have it run away on me

post what your top holdings are if you're gonna talk ;^)

me pp hord

>>15090574
>post what your top holdings are if you're gonna talk ;^)
no holdings = 100% cash for the weekend. Had two days of gains on KR. Short SPY QQQ IWM USO and a few other plays this week. massive gains on vol products.

>>15090574
>my average is 14.60,
look at the fundamentals
https://finviz.com/quote.ashx?t=nwl

they're shit. the company isn't doing well and the price chart reflects it

>>15089163
Do you know what "par value" means?

>>15090470
>pumping MAGA

>>15089439
Are you based Nordstrom anon?

>pumping MAGA

together worth $4 trillion, more than the combined value of half of the entire S&P 500

>>15090636
You know who Carl Icahn and Starboard is right? The entire reason to own the stock is that old management and board of directors get gutted. Its this thing called Deep Value

>>15090647
Hey, how can $4 trillion of market cap be wrong?

>>15090738
>The entire reason to own the stock is that old management and board of directors get gutted. Its this thing called Deep Value
ROFL how do you come up with such creative bullishit?

you talking about NWL? It was a $50 stock ... it's now 15.

Its earnings fell another -42% this year.
lost 7 billion in income. It's dividend will be cut soon. and it's sitting on a shitload of debt.

Gawd tell me another stock you're going long on and I will fade you for profits

>>15087981
im a bartender too, shits cash. pulling a double tomorrow. nice to know someone else is a bartender browsing 4chan and looking for tickers. cheers bro

Any opinion on these stocks? ECC, OXLC, NAK, WKHS, and MAXR interested in adding them to my portfolio.

>>15090825
so basically you have no idea about Icahn or Starboards previous turnarounds/ hostile takeovers, gotcha. When you learn about Deep Value you can sit at the big boy table

>>15090859
It's a fun gig in between semesters at college. I'm working tomorrow night after a 10 hour coming home from vacation. Hopefully I'll still able to frequent here after vacation.

>>15089163
thats called dilution

>>15090918
good luck with your 'deep value' bullshit anon
the numbers speak for themselves

>>15090917
Don't ask

>This site contains known criminal activity, scams, fraud, pump and dump schemes, and stock price manipulation.

see above:
>>15090289

>>15090705
>>15090796
Unironically, I like all these companies. A lot. I want to own them. But I don’t think this is the time to buy. However, on a Buffet time horizon, yeah buy the shit out of them.

>>15091110
>I want to own them

1) they're not some penny stock that scam anons can just pump and dump. They're pumped and dumped by the economic cycle and market sentiment lol
2) They're widely followed because the whole world is watching these widely held public traded companies and looking through the numbers at every detail.

is PINS posting a cup and handle? if it dips monday in the 29-30 range, 40 seems likely

>>15090937
yeah ive been doin it for twelve years so im probably gonna be a lifer till i can make some good trades. whats the most youve made in a night?

>>15091156
I think this retard is endorsing the MAGA stocks.

This is a clear sell signal, possible short opportunity.

Hey guys Buy GBLX , medicinal weed is just about to go Into markets in Louisiana and GBLX is the only company currently permitted by the state to grow and sell their products. It’s .145 a share right now get in while you can , I believe in 2 years or less when Louisiana’s weed becomes recreational this stock will blow up

>>15091265
>clear sell signal,
you're a little late to the party, wake the fuck up anon.
We shorted the whole way down to here.

>>15090208
VFIAX

>>15091288
>GBLX

this over the counter penny stock had
negative 5 million in earnings (EBITDA)

looks like a solid investment to pump on SMG

>>15091392
It’s putting it into research , and with the stores just about to open they might actually start being able to turn a profit

>>15091373
Okay grandpa

>>15089460
>paranoid delusion
get load of this memetic virus

trading alone should have shown you how metaphysical reality am
you probably have no once considered your place in space time during trade

>>15089460
Anon this shit is real. Idk about this specifically but CIA manipulating people with media is much more in depth than people realize...

>>15091288
https://gbsciences.com/patent-applications/

It seems like they are really emphasizing "medicines derived from the cannabis plant". so they're trying to be a wholly biotech company, not a weedstock.
So I can't see how a recreational weed law will ahve any effect on their value, it really is based on clinical results and getting people to buy their products on the medical side.

Nothing I see on their website has anything about recreational drugs.

>>15091478
But they’re the ones growing it , for the other buisnesses. Literally in the ag center of LSU

>>15091503
do you have any volume numbers for that

>>15090208
REFR

>>15090444
AAAAHHAHAHAHAHA
Christ what a fucking autist.
Is he just playing a character? Is he acting?
Was he one of the shorts who got obliterated?

>>15091515
I don’t

>>15091515
Actually read this https://www.lsuagcenter.com/portals/administration/about-us/vice-president-dean-office/Medical%20Marijuana

Tfw I'v got 1/4 in Vangaurd ETFs and 3/4 in a high interest savings account burning a hole in my pocket.

When we crashin? My patience is being tested.

>>15091584
I suggest you try to find some ETFs/MFs/Stocks that you think will do reasonably well whether or not we do "crash" and buy some
There are ETFs that will provide better returns than a savings account under almost any market conditions

>>15091553
I see all that and it's fine. It still seems like more of a clinical stock right now. If they have any intentions toward recreational sales (they certainly might), they are keeping those on the backburner until legalization is closer.
If you want to buy it, go ahead. It's a risky small company, but it might pay off very well. If you have any circumstantial information that leads you to believe in their success, put some money in.

Many stock charts won't let you zoom out properly, the max is like 5 or 10 years range. Is that a ploy to make the viewer forget about the financial crisis and other crashes?

>>15091747
most stocks have mergers over the time period of decades anon. tradingview allows you to scroll out to the 1800s through theoretical spx. if you cant get to at least the 1960s that means it was merger or its a new etf

>>15091747
it depends what the stock is (some didn't exist) and what online tool you are using to look at the stock chart. Sometimes long term charts can also be impacted by other events (M&A, splits, etc.) and so even if you can see it, it might be displayed in an unreliable way.

If you know the stock existed since a certain date, you may have to check multiple sources to get the whole chart.

Even then, it isn't really malicious. Each of the online websites (or trading tools, or data APIs...) you see wants to have the highest quantity and quality of data to try and get the most users. It's just a difficult task for every online tool or website to get all of the numbers right for every stock forever.

You can trust me because I'm not part of the secret stock price obfuscation syndicate (SSPOS).

lol Sundownofsaturn look at ciovacci's twitter, he's drunk

>>15091747
FUCK
Anon I hope you're hiding behind several dynamic proxies and aren't in the US. If you post about SSPOS schemes you're going to get v&.

>>15091198
I live in the country so it's just a small bar and grill. Most I've made is about 200

>>15091827
>>15091875
I've never heard of this group SSPOS. Sounds nefarious I tell ya what.

>>15087843
I usually go drink and play pool.. occasionally fuck random bitches.. and occasionally do some cocaine.... sometimes i don't sleep all weekend... i just get high and drunk playing pool from one place to the next..

>>15090942
don't tell him anon.. just let him keep buying....

>>15092265
>>15091198
just know.. i'm usually that guy that tips a bartender pretty good... unless i'm like that one time only guy.. that only gets the one drink at a place i'll never be again.. then i'll only tip about $1 a beer...

>>15091527
I mean probably, there were a ton of people that got rekt by BYND. He's not wrong though, it's completely fucking manipulated.
The fact that BYND is still over 100 is shocking

>>15092766
I don’t know if it’s manipulated as in intentional. There were too many shorts, and too many people who wanted to buy in, and then people saw the momentum and hopped in, and more people thought it was ridiculous and wanted to short.

It’s going to hurt when the short squeeze is over and it finally falls, but it should be raising red flags for anyone who wants to trade it.

Impossible just got the green light to sell in grocery stores, does not bode well for BYND.

It’s one thing to short an index using an ETF, I feel comfortable doing that in response to a hot market when trump makes a crazy announcement. But if you’re shorting a stock, you better have a rock solid case, you better know something that no one else does.

>>15092862
BYND is going to be swarmed with tism and bergers just because of the price movement, ya

>>15092862
Yeah I agree. Maybe I'm a bit biased aswell, tried shorting it 5 times and got stopped out because it just kept pumping non-stop AND it ignored support/resistance because it was just pure FOMO happening. Finally caught 238.50 before it dumped.
Still though, I will probably have pure hatred for that shit for the rest of my life.

>>15089901
>he expected quality here
OH NO NO NO NO NO

>>15093297
hey quality is subjective

we get the posts of the HK anon, the Tbabies poster, SunnyD, and many more. which is more than we deserve for th low admission price of "free"
IMO, quality over admission price, /smg/ is the titties
I'm here just sucking all the milk I can get
if you don't like it, it's your own fault

>>15093394
also DF is pumping
I spent minutes of my life photoshopping as much /DF/ cowgirl content as I could a couple months ago and I guess no one cared
I'm jus tring to bless yall with free money

>>15093394
>quality is subjective
OH NO NO NO NO NO ahahhahahha

>>15091697

This is actually great advice that I've been overlooking. Thanks anon.

... Japan and Korea are even arguing over their trade tension at ASEAN+3 meeting where they aren't the main there..

thoughts on REFR?

>>15087779 https://www.wsj.com/articles/families-go-deep-in-debt-to-stay-in-the-middle-class-11564673734

> The American middle class is falling deeper into debt to maintain a middle-class lifestyle.

> Cars, college, houses and medical care have become steadily more costly, but incomes have been largely stagnant for two decades, despite a recent uptick. Filling the gap between earning and spending is an explosion of finance into nearly every corner of the consumer economy.

> 1. Consumer debt, not counting mortgages, has climbed to $4 trillion—higher than it has ever been even after adjusting for inflation. Mortgage debt slid after the financial crisis a decade ago but is rebounding.
> 2. Student debt totaled about $1.5 trillion last year, exceeding all other forms of consumer debt except mortgages.
> 3. Auto debt is up nearly 40% adjusting for inflation in the last decade to $1.3 trillion. And the average loan for new cars is up an inflation-adjusted 11% in a decade, to $32,187, according to an analysis of data from credit-reporting firm Experian.

> Unsecured personal loans are back in vogue, the result of competition between technology-savvy lenders and big banks for borrowers and loan volume.

> The debt surge is partly by design, a byproduct of low borrowing costs the Federal Reserve engineered after the financial crisis to get the economy moving. It has reshaped both borrowers and lenders. Consumers increasingly need it, companies increasingly can’t sell their goods without it, and the economy, which counts on consumer spending for more than two-thirds of GDP, would struggle without a plentiful supply of credit.

>>15094387
> Median household income in the U.S. was $61,372 at the end of 2017, according to the Census Bureau. When inflation is taken into account, that is just above the 1999 level. Without adjusting for inflation, over the three decades through 2017, incomes are up 135%.

> Average tuition at public four-year colleges, however, went up 549%, not adjusted for inflation, according to data from the College Board. On the same basis, average per capita personal health-care expenditures rose about 276% over a slightly shorter period, 1990 to 2017, according to data from the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services.

> And average housing prices swelled 188% over those three decades, according to the S&P CoreLogic Case-Shiller National Home Price Index.

>>15094387
I wouldn't like to be a journalist nor a public worker nor representative nor be employed in the financial industry in todays world, it is a certain way to be killed

>>15094150
If it doesn't breach 5-5.5 it's dead and can easily test new lows. Entering now is suicide though since it can easily retrace 30% from where it is today. Not to mention that gross profit, income.. everything has decreased over the past 4 years. There's better ones out there that both looks better and haven't pumped 570%, kek'd.

Tl;dr you missed out.

>>15094407
Shit, when the race to the bottom starts I wouldn't want to have Econ PhD. in my public history. Probably fastest way to get shot.

China's annual Beidaihe Meeting have started, according to rumor

>>15094442
Depends on what you have published. If it was royal court propaganda, yep, you are in for a free shortening

Thinking about getting into CLDR next week. Been slowing creeping up, Icahn getting involved, and earnings next month. Unfortunately I'm really tempted to just sit in what cash I have left until the markets settle down.

>>15094407
mfw daddy is finance adviser

>>15090942
Only on outstanding shares, not on held shares.
>>15090642
Yes, but that is only on outstanding shares. Read the entire screencap
>>15092658
Read the entire screencap. What is being diluted is outstanding shares, not owned shares at the time of the merger.

>>15095118
Do you know what 'outstanding shares' means?

>>15093409
I listened and appreciate it, anon.

I'm trying to figure out a good way to invest in Oat Milk because I'm convinced it's going to be the next big thing to replace Onions Milk after all the bad press onions has gotten. But I've tried the different brands and gauged popularity among vegan friends, and the one that seems the best, Planet Oat, is a brand from privately-owned Hood.

Made good money by buying Aixtron three weeks ago before the release of the second quarter results. What are some good ways to keep track of big upcoming events/opportunities to get in early?

>>15087014

if you want big profits
just fade this unscrupulous shit for brains
every single god damn day

>>15087894
>watch sesame with my baby girl
>make bfast
>check on shroomer grow
>sell more shit on ebay
>goto lake club pool for lunch and drinks
>keep drinking
>dinner
>more drinks
>DRINKS
LA LA LALA ELMOS WORLD

>>15087894
>take enough painkillers for OD
>balance with enough adderall for keep lungs function
>spend next 8 hour only think thought sentence or two in size
>wonder around smelling like trashcan looking for food
>find yourself in golf course at 2am

>>15087843

>What do /smg/ bros do on the weekends. Coming from crypto I
the pacing of the stock market unique and I have gotten really good sleep lately.

The days off are 100% needed. Futures trade 24/5, but even serious traders need to find a work/life balance for mental health reasons.

>traded good all week, spent a lot of time
>300 word essay due in blackboard at 11:59 pst tonight

>>15096044
If you averaged only one word a minute, you'd be done in five hours. Five words a minute, and you'll be done in one hour. Get cracking, young man.

Who will china retaliate? more importantly, how will the market react?

>>15087992
the fuck is credit score? some US scam?
lmao

>>15096189
>>15096189
When u take debt and pay it back

>>15096154
>will china retaliate? more importantly, how will the market react?


They have plenty of ways to retaliate and this could get real ugly real fast:

Just one simple example is they might pressure consumers against (or ban ) iPhone sales in China. AAPL is still 50% an iPhone company with sales already slowing. The stock will drop fast when the price is valued at 0% growth.

But the big weapon they could use is Treasuries.
China is the largest foreign lender to the US.
They could just dump billions in treasuries to retaliate which would cause a flash crash.

Take a look at the flash crash of Aug 2015.
At the time China was unloading billions in treasuries to stabilize their currency.

>>15096204
>you can pay a debt with debt

>>15096189
>>15096189
>the fuck is credit score? some US scam?
>lmao
Get educated
Show me a single country on earth where borrowers don't have credit ratings.

Check out China's social credit rating system
if you really want to see what a totalitarian nightmare looks like. The country is headed for another revolution and the government is freaking out. Just look at HK right now.

>>15096381
Yes, as opposed to the totally-non-existent US credit score system where you get banned from payment services for being a free speech advocate, or fired for supporting Trump haha

>>15096400
>Yes, as opposed to the totally-non-existent US credit score system where you get banned from payment services for being a free speech advocate, or fired for supporting Trump haha

STFU with this garbage
utter nonsense

getting fired for being a MAGA hat wearing NAZI is not the same thing as your credit score

by "free speech advocate" you mean running an illegal NAZI site that got kicked from the apple store.

whatever, redneck

>>15096262
AAPL is the only realistic play China has. It wont fuck up their economy but it will fuck up Americans attitude towards our government making their icandys expensive for them. Apple has said they can manage it anyways now so we may see how true that is.

China is fucked beyond belief, they either fold and look like a pussy or keep making shit worse and risk(highly so) falling the fuck apart into pieces and civil war. China is already shaky, much more and it will collapse. China has to fold to US but also somehow not look like it to their own people. Impossible. I think they are actually trying to wait out trump which is hilariously dumb. Everyone forgets their market correcting over 30% only a few years ago and the government shut down their market and fixed prices. China isnt very stable right now and are propped up on chopsticks. These guys NEED the world. America has itself set up as virtually independent from imports. China is completey dependent on imports of fundamental resources like water, food, and energy and they fund it by exports of cheap garbage products. They have been at their best for awhile and it’s still shit. When shit hits the fan-and its starting already-they are going to crumble hard. Get ready for chinese refugees flooding america, probably their next move is to just flood the world with chinese. Then they will just worm their way in our govt and take over. They clearly are already doing this. Eg dianne feinstein

>>15096262
Yeah but what do you think happens to China if they sell a trillion of what they hold in US debt? They would make the yuan extremely strong hence hurting their exports by a massive amount, which as you can probably guess is not what they want when Trump is sitting there slapping tarriffs on just that.. their trade.
The reason they have been selling it before is just to stabilize the yuan like you said, but that's good for them.. selling everything however would not be good for them. This is why they haven't done it already.

>>15096451
You can tell Liberal and Socialist from their respect to empty nominalism and scare of the informal.

>>15096381
>Show me a single country on earth where borrowers don't have credit ratings.
In the Netherlands you just get a negative 'rating' if you get into arrears on payments. Otherwise, you're just 'neutral'.

>>15096381
totally. I recommend watching China Uncensored on YewTube

>>15096487
>You can tell Liberal and Socialist from their respect to empty nominalism and scare of the informal.

STFU again already
you make no sense with your garbage

did you look those words up in a translator ?

fucking retard

You from a Chinese or Russian trollfarm?

>>15096492
>In the Netherlands you just get a negative 'rating' if you get into arrears on payments. Otherwise, you're just 'neutral'.
Don't kid yourself.
Thats just what you see.
There's databases on you.
At least in good countries by law you have the right to see the data held in your file.

>>15096460
If you prematurely gave enron bonds worth ten million dollars(owed to them because they bought bonds) would they have become a strong company? That’s basically what you are saying, that china would somehow be worth more and run better if they just cashed in now instead of later. A shit country or company is shit regardless of anything

>>15096554
I work at a mortgage provider but OK, bud.

>>15087779
Are we crashing hard monday?

Also please post insider information. I'm tired of being poor!

>>15096617
If you just look up tickers talked about here and dyor on them you’ll stay positive if you diversify.

>>15096617
>Also please post insider information. I'm tired of being poor!

Anon, that way of thinking will lead to trouble for you in the future for so many reasons.

I wish you a wealthy future, and my heart goes to those struggling to make it. Life is a struggle for all people.

But some words of advice:

Play fair and earn respect.
Work an honest wage.
Education and learning gives you a better future.
Keep looking out for honest opportunities to reach success.

>>15096617
>Are we crashing hard monday

I expect a modest bounce. If it's weak, relatively low volume, then resumed dumping on Tuesday. News depending of course.

>>15096711
based and wholesome-advice-pilled

If you got a cash pile just sitting I'd wait a bit more. China's gonna hit back soon over the latest Trade War shit Trump stirred up. (Remember Dec 2018?; The mega dip came with a vengeance)

Be able to go and bag cheapies like its crack. Then once they all rebound you'll be coming out hauling Green Bags of cash enough to break your back.

P.S I must be doing something right cause I'm still in the green even after this Trade Shit came about again. For those who've been wanting to know here's what my portfolio looks like: 50% AMRN, 40% T Babies, 10% Everything else (DIS/KDP/KHC/Comcast/GE/BHGE/PINS/SWPPX)

>>15092676
Thanks fren

>>15096974
But yeah during the weekends me and the wife don't do shit other than doing stuff around the house. We spend most of it relaxing. The workweek (sometimes evenings to) just takes a lot out of us. Need the downtime to just unwind and not really give a shit about work/bills/etc.

>>15096154
>>15096262

Remember, the tariffs are only kicking in during the negotiations next month. I dare say if China does the agricultural purchases to the point that they satisfy Trump they won't actually be implemented.

The question is whether the Chinese are happy to play Trump's game in such a public display of brinkmanship.

If they are, and they buy more agricultural products, I dare say the remaining tariffs won't happen next month and they'll continue trying to do a deal. Markets will rally hard.

If they aren't, then the Chinese will at first stop negotiating. Then after tariffs are implemented, they will retaliate against America's very vulnerable tech stocks or simply stop rare earth exports. Markets could drop 20% within a week or so. Not kidding.

Trump and Trump's team know that tariffs make the market shit the bed, but they also know that by selectively adding and removing the prospect of tariffs that they can control the direction of the market.

>>15096974
>Dec 2018?; The mega dip

This was very significant. Look at previous market bubble tops in 2001 and 2008.
we've never had volatility at the bubble top like this before. Study the bearish expanding megaphone pattern that's forming.

Don't be complacent to the downside risk.
The global economy is slowing.
There will be more recessions.
This credit cycle will eventually come to an end ( like every time before) and credit spreads will blow out all over again.

>>15096974
I’ve been looking at PINS. I actually use Pinterest a bit being a photographer and a bartender and it’s a fun platform that I think is bigger than it looks.

>>15097107
The latest earnings were very good. Stock shot up 18% after earnings came out.

>>15097125
Yeah, saw that and wished I had got in when they were in my top watches a bit ago.

>>15096974
Whoops, forgot these two under the "everything else" label; CTL and LGF.

Few of these got hit hard so the upside is huge plus most pay a divvy so while I wait for the recovery I let drip work it's magic. In the case of LGF they are expanding and are in bidding war for a 50% stake in Miramax films. All which make it an even more juicy buyout target. The stock is in the shat (under $13) w/ a high of $26.00. I bought at the bottom btw. Bought the bottom w/CTL to.

>>15096487
wow teenagers are scum
reminds me of that episode of Louie
https://youtu.be/AfMbN_MzCpw

>>15097090

Correct me if I'm wrong but the 2000/ 2008 tops were made with euphoria and credit but they weren't directly related with international trade disputes. George W Bush wasn't out in the media commenting every week about the DOW. Maybe the bottom in 2002/2003 were influenced by international developments/war in 9/11 & lead up to Afghanistan and Iraq.

So we know markets aren't trading on fundamentals. The Beyond Meat story is a classic bubble stock that has a story as if it belongs back in the dot com bubble era. It just reeks of retarded millennials just buying whatever stock is being talked about the most.

But what we don't know is where we are in the cycle, or if there even is a cycle anymore given that capitalism really has never been tried with zero or negative interest rates.

Jerome Powell wants this to be 1998, he cuts a couple of times and then the market moves higher in a big way that allows him to increase interest rates.

I'm unconvinced. I think the market's fate is bound together with a China trade deal and it's very, very sensitive to the downside.

>>15097362
>wow teenagers are scum
not all. some are good people who were raised well

scum people exist of all ages.

Children and teens need more guidance.

My golden goose AMRN will sit me up right nicely for short term Profit (short term relativity speaking of course)

Bare bones price w/buyout = $40 per
Max price w/buyout = $100 per
Go it alone w/no buyout = $50 per

I got 400 shares. The math is easy. No mater which of those three options above end up happening I'll be coming out good. Enough to cover my whole investment amount in the market with some extra left over. Then I'll still have my T Babies and my other positions. While I wait for my golden goose to lay its eggs I'll be stuffing as much cash as I can in the bank in case shit happens along the way.

(I got a 401k + some green stashed in the bank now but hey; Profit is Profit)

Fuck yeah I can't wait.

>>15097410
>Correct me if I'm wrong
a very thoughtful and intelligent post

A lot to think about.

I'll have to bring this up again after some consideration. I hope you do too.

>>15097435
>AMRN
do some further price valuation analysis

Expensive stocks can correct downwards fast.
your no buyout model of 50 is absurd.
Its at 17 now.

Forward Price/Earnings Ratio of 86.25, AMRN is valued very expensively.
With a price book ratio of 38.26, AMRN is valued rather expensively.
Compared to an average industry price book ratio of 3.23, AMRN is valued more expensive than its industry peers. 98% of the companies listed in the same industry are valued cheaper.

The thing with BYND is that soon as competitors start jumping into the "fake meat" train the stock will suffer. I know Tyson is jumping into it. Then once they have a product that flops the stock will take a big shat to. All which makes jumping on the BYND train now kinda dicey. I'd wait for a big shat then jump in.

>>15097410
We're going to pull out of Afghanistan and get a trade deal, have a few years of euphoria before the inevitable crash in 2022

>>15097538
It's not my model. People who do this shit for a living is the ones who put up the numbers. I just copied them.

>>15097538
>Forward Price/Earnings Ratio of 86.25, AMRN is valued very expensively.
With a price book ratio of 38.26

>AMRN is valued rather expensively.
Compared to an average industry price book ratio of 3.23, AMRN is valued more expensive than its industry peers. 98% of the companies listed in the same industry are valued cheaper.

Good job regurgitating some bullshit you saw in a bot article

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asia/us-china-trade-war-envoy-zhang-jun-tariffs-hong-kong-11778228
>China's new UN envoy says Beijing ready to fight US on trade
Just saw this news from yesterday

>>15097566
>implying its not just propped up by smart money betting against it
ngmi

>>15097588
Actually I was being conservative a bit. The max is $51 per.

>>15097588
>It's not my model. People who do this shit for a living is the ones who put up the numbers. I just copied them.
right so in other words:
1 you have no clue what you're talking about.
2 are trying to pump up the price by exploiting naive people into going all in
3 you're unscrupulous

>>15097574

I don't think a withdrawal from Afghanistan would be an upside event.

As for China, it really depends on how they choose to interpret Trump's recent actions.

Trump's wording with the tariff tweet was conciliatory, despite the obvious threat. He also came out later and backed China's approach to Hong Kong and saying America wanted no part in it.

It's all a dog and pony show, and Trump plays alternatively the good guy and the bad guy simultaneously to achieve what he likes.

>>15097591
>With a price book ratio of 38.26

>Compared to an average industry price book ratio of 3.23,

you clearly don't even know what these numbers even mean

>>15097641
I hope you're right T baby anon. For your and mine own sakes. I have 1100 shares of amarin right now and desu I can't really afford to lose lol.

>mfw the market opens up this week

>>15097749
It's that, or maybe Pendy doesn't care about fundamentals or ratios.

>>15097800
I hope you get the average analyst target of 32+ for your sake, you seem honest.
But truth, anon it's a very very speculative gamble. I can show you the shitty fundamentals if you wish.

Well from what all I've seen lately from AMRN (hiring sales reps out the ass, raising money,etc) they seem to think that the FDA ruling (28th sept) is a nothing event. The latest earnings report all seem to backup this claim (sales/profit is looking good)

Next year or hell maybe by end of this one they will be posting more profit v.s debt if things roll on like they are. I think the 28th will be a "rubber stamp" deal. Everyone going "jolly good" and whatnot. Before the 28th or right after it "Big Pharma" will have a choice to make; let Profit out the ass pass them by. or buy AMRN and capture all that Profit for themselves. Gee I wonder which option they'll pick.. right.

>>15097938
>>15097961
Truth is, fundamentals don't matter now. Only future prospects. Too many people are spooked about "muh recession" and "muh rates" so they want the diamond that makes it through unscathed. I strongly believe Amarin is a potential candidate (along with microsoft, amd, apple, etc).

Why? 2 reasons:
Amarin is, for its sector, already a long tail event. What amarin has done is statistically impossible. A real product from a biopharma, with real sales, that people actually need, and FDA approval. All the bullshit you normally deal with is gone.
Amarin currently has 800 sales reps. If every single rep did 1.25 million in sales (i mean, for medicine, this is pretty easy) amarin now has 1 billion with a B in revenue. That's ridiculous. And they're only hiring more reps - I listened to their ER call last week. Amarin is seriously the most valuable growth stock in existence right now.

>>15098034
>Truth is, fundamentals don't matter now. Only future prospects.

not the 'truth' at all in any way.

If you had more experience and education in markets you know this already.

The future estimates get revised down as growth projections fade with economic slowdown.

The same things were said at the peak of the 2001 dot com bubble, the same was said in 2007 ahead of the GFC.
We've been there, done that, and seen it all before. This time is no different.

>>15097566
I wish we could just stop talking about beyond... we all missed the trade, it was ebin, if you didn’t miss the trade then congrats.

I do think it’s a pretty big deal that Impossible applied for and just received approval to start selling in grocery stores, I think that’s the real threat to the company. But I still wouldn’t short a stock like this, it looks like an easy target, but you have to do some real work if you want to find a real short candidate.

I think Tyson sees that most of the growth in fakemeat category is from meat eaters, which is why they tried their hand at these part-meat, part-fake products, but it’s a real risk. I’m not sure who wants it, I think most people want their meat to be meat and the fake to be fake, not a mixture of the two that’s basically meat with filler.

>>15098034
Have you read A Random Walk? Remember the biotech bubble of the mid-1980s? Genentech? This thing looks to be a holdover from that era Price multiples based on what could possibly happen and analyst predictions? Why is this any different? A forward P/E of fucking 86.25? Where is the value here? I dunno man. Biotechs can certainly take off and make people insane money, but 9 times out of 10 it's either overhyped, or the products/company will fail.

>>15098130
We can always buy puts :^)

Does anyone have access to a mega that has videos from people like Tim Kikes? I have been getting into penny stocks, but I’d like some more insight into the patterns to look for. Any help is appreciated

>>15098212
Random walk is good, but I’d like to retire before 50. I’ve found that treating stocks as no more than what they are, not companies, helps.

What is the longest amount of time Anons here have held on to their stocks? What was the reason for it and did you ever do anything with it?

Buy Russian stocks, they are at the point of taking off

>>15098347
One of my holdings is a solid blue chip quality financial stock yielding over 5% for almost 14 years now. I will hold it until I die or they go bust. It survived the last crash when many companies went belly up. It fully recovered after the great recession b/c it is top quality. I've gained big profits on the price and the div yield alone has almost fully returned my initial investment.

I give this example for learning and to not pump any stock.

>>15098360
GTFO
trollfarm

>>15098360
So just get some RUSL and let the Chinese and Americans fight it out?

>>15098480
So why hold on to it for so long if you're not going to do anything with it? Does it pay dividends?

>>15087908
>I just wanted to say I'm sorry to everybody I've pissed off over the years.

crocodile tears

We'll believe it when we see you grow the fuck up

>>15090297
>>Well alcohol lowers T too so...
wine increases testosterone production (makes women hornier)
but beer increases estrogen production (gives man tits and beer gut)

>>15097800
>I can't really afford to lose
then you've already lost fren

>>15098347
>What is the longest amount of time Anons here have held on to their stocks?
many many years
>What was the reason for it and did you ever do anything with it?
all i do i watch that money pile up, few of the stocks are already up 250% not including few years of quarterly dividend payments...

>>15098360
are sanctions going away, or are oil prices about to shoot past the moon?

what are smgs next buys, for me it's a yamaha piano and a yamaha motorbike :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vvBKPpRpEY

>>15098347

I hold my positions for capital gains in the medium term, so the longest I've held is probably 18 months.

In retrospect this was the wrong call, but I've still managed to make some decent money along the way.

The REAL money is in buying an index at in the trough and then riding it for the entire business cycle. With leverage. And then selling at the top.

Think of buying in 2002/2003 and then selling in December 2007. Then simply going into cash, then buying in March 2009 and riding the fucker up to now.

Of course this is impossible to time correctly, but if you get within 10% or 15% either way, you're going to make money. A lot of money. And indexes don't go bankrupt. Companies do, but not indexes as a whole.

>>15098592
fuck you

WMT cheapies incoming...

>>15098875
>I just wanted to say I'm sorry to everybody I've pissed off over the years.

>fuck you

perfect example

theres no hope for you asshole

>>15096262

China has very little plays left.

See picture. Its from 5 years ago, but little has changed. The entire Chinese economy (minus Shanghai & Hong Kong) is almost entirely dependent on debt financed growth. The debt financed growth is almost entirely based on collateral from US Treasury debt.

If China dumps all the T-bills, as you describe, their entire economy becomes one big Enron and explodes. Not sure if putting 350 million Chinese men out of work over a month period is the negotiating strategy China wants here. Not to mention their currency becomes worthless and they import 95% of all their fuel based on USD markets.

America has three insurmountable advantages in these negotiations
(1) The American economy is almost entirely consumer driven with less than 7% based on global trade. China's is almost exactly the opposite.
(2) The global economy is based on USD reserve currencies. If China dumps them, then there will be plenty of buyers at the dip. Where else are you going to park your money global economy? Euros? Canadian dollars? Please.
(3) America is the global energy monster and entirely self sufficient. If America wanted to they could shock the entire global energy markets by cutting off exports and send oil +$200 / barrel while keeping oil $60 / barrel at home. Don't like it Mr. Global economy? Get your oil from Venezuela, Nigeria or Iran instead. Good luck with that.

China made the play that buy fucking with America's farmers via basedbean sales, they could bluff Trump / Lighthizer into caving. Trump called their bluff and raised tarriffs instead. More tarrifs to come boys, this is just getting started.

Don't even get me started if US starts putting tarrifs on Chinese currency manipulation. Via con dios Chinese economy...

>>15098875
Come out to vegas with us in a couple weeks!

there will be a small /smg/ meetup on freemont street or the strip!

>>15098592
>We'll believe it when we see you grow the fuck up

Speak for your self asshole

>>15096262
>>They could just dump billions in treasuries to retaliate which would cause a flash crash.
we went through this yesterday, china is 10% of bonds at very best

not nearly enough leverage to "crash the markets" without fucking themselves up even more
and american government can withstand an economic downturn, its happened quite a few times

modern comunist china really hasnt dealt with anything but having the very best growth in the world
the dynasty of the communist party of china has yet to face their greatest domestic challenges

>>15098989
absolutely baste realists, also nice 98989's

>>15098992
I feel like L*IGuy is the person most likely to drug you/bring weapons/have people waiting to attack you, rob you, and leave you dying in an alley.

Unironically, I think summiting with baggie would be less dangerous, but you'd probably have to babysit him when he gets too fucked up to function every now and then.

>>15091870
Hahaha my man's freaking out over video publishing software. "Concepts in life are important", fuckin hell

>>15099489
He sounds very cautious right now.
I think I need to check out more of his videos.

>>15099502
He admitted to taking profits yesterday, literally felt like someone stabbed an icicle into my heart when I saw it

>>15098989

>See picture. Its from 5 years ago, but little has changed. The entire Chinese economy (minus Shanghai & Hong Kong) is almost entirely dependent on debt financed growth. The debt financed growth is almost entirely based on collateral from US Treasury debt.

Pot calling the kettle black here though. US growth is entirely financed by debt. In fact since 2016 American accumulation of debt has fucking SKYROCKETED.

Of course China is in the same boat. But so is everyone, with probably the exception of Russia and other pariah states unable to access Western finance.

The question is where the neutral parties are happy to place their confidence, and whether the damage China does to the USA is going to be worth the damage they are going to do to themselves in the process.

If Trump hadn't have been elected and trade policy stayed the same as it was for the last 30 years, China was going to become the #1 economy by the end of the 2020s. At this stage even with the tariffs now, it still is.

Barring some major crisis in China, the onus is on America's ability to stop this.

>>15099026
>Speak for your self

all shitposts

every single one

see pic related

>>15099557
>>Pot calling the kettle black here though. US growth is entirely financed by debt. In fact since 2016 American accumulation of debt has fucking SKYROCKETED.
but its much more domestic than people like to believe

china is mostly foreign debt, because chinese people dont trust their own currency as much

>>15099557
>The question is where the neutral parties are happy to place their confidence, and whether the damage China does to the USA is going to be worth the damage they are going to do to themselves in the process.
if china keeps on trying to go tit for tat on tariffs its going to be like them chopping off their leg to survive while we just lose a pinky toe (in a very clumsy analogy)

>>Barring some major crisis in China, the onus is on America's ability to stop this.
theres nothing to stop because of demographics

those same demographics might cause them some long term pain compared to USA though

>>15099591
are you that scrub that tried to start an options thread yesterday? you seem very salty

>>15099591
I'm actually green on the month some how...

>>15099557
American GDP has been negative since 2008, it's a shitshow on both sides

>>15098989
based
USA numero uno
get fucked rest of world

>>15099614
There's one thing China does have that gives them the upper hand. They have a metric fuck load of people.

>>15099614

Countries can make debt at will, and they do. The difference is in the demand for said debt on the open market, which in of itself is a question of confidence in the state and country that issues that debt.

You're right in that China can't go tit for tat on tariffs, but they are an important part of the global supply chain that can't be replaced readily without severe inflationary pressures popping up in the USA.

The hordes of Asia are responsible for the deflationary pressure on technology, which is a big component in keeping the lid on price inflation in the US.

I don't buy the Chinese demographic crisis theory. If anything, an aging population that is dying off will result in higher per capita wealth.

Meanwhile, in le 56% land, 1st and 2nd generation southern american immigrants guard the border into the US.

>>15087822
actually it's Oy vey Goros

>>15099761
Oops wrong file!

>>15099744
That is going to be a problem for China too.
First, it's good they're 90-95% Han. Much better than US which is like 56% White, and declining.
Second, China's demographic decline has started. This means that some 50% of people that should have been born by 2030, will not be born. This is a major demographic opportunity cost.

Whichever State doesn't collapse to its internal impossibilities will win.

I feel sorry for later generations (hell maybe my own if this shit happens later in life) when all the debt and shit just pops. Sooner or later the bill's gotta get paid you know.

Just like with a credit card; yeah it's nice when shit hits the fan and you gotta fix it fast. Not so nice when you spend and spend and max the sucker out then the massive bill hits you in the face.

I'm looking at RIOT right now, and it seems to be at a good point for an entry if anybody is looking for a swing trade.

>>15099744
which is a massive benefit, especially since like 90% live on the coast, so interior (and especially western china) are ripe for resource extraction

while it might cause some growing pains in the future (which could maybe be the straw the breaks the camels back, with at least a dozen ifs attached to that)
china is returning to its proper place as a global power (something they stopped when they turned inwards in the ming dynasty)

>>15099752
>>I don't buy the Chinese demographic crisis theory. If anything, an aging population that is dying off will result in higher per capita wealth.
it will wreck some sectors, but it is by no means a cause for civil war bloodbath at all, or economic collapse as a whole

but china is going to enter a period where they not only see slower growth, but possibly some stagnation, maybe even a recession in 10-20 years

that will be communist parties ultimate challenge, can they survive a recession? and not only survive, but help their people come back from it (or just survive it) too

>>15099775
china has had homeginous culture, and been ruled together as one, for thousands of years now (the closer to the 3 rivers, the closer it is to 4000 years running now)

its what makes comparisons to them and india laughable, when india has never been united, last time it was even close was Mughals (northern portions, not even half) or back in 500ad (which again, never got into southern half of india). india has always been a collection of 50-50,000 different kingdoms with land constantly changing, no shared history of unity

>>Whichever State doesn't collapse to its internal impossibilities will win.
thats the thing, USA has faced far worse than a financial crisis and survived relatively well

chinese internal problems can be problematic for the world though, their civil wars drastically alter the overall population of the entire planet
and neighbors always get dragged in(usually with greedy ambition, but still)

>>15099848
fuck RIOT

>>15099775

>Second, China's demographic decline has started. This means that some 50% of people that should have been born by 2030, will not be born. This is a major demographic opportunity cost.

The Chinese intended for this demographic decline though. It was state policy to eliminate mouths to feed.

China isn't exactly short on workers. Never has been. I think it will actually increase per capita wealth.

too long until Monday
when will Xi give up
fuck China, fuck EU

>>15099981
it will still require some adaptation, which always causes growing pains, somewhere

>>15099614
>you seem very salty
yea some of us have had enough of his bullshit
he needs to get some therapy

>>15099947

>that will be communist parties ultimate challenge, can they survive a recession? and not only survive, but help their people come back from it (or just survive it) too

I think if the CCP can survive people starving and being forced to eat their own babies in the 1950s and 1960s, they can manage to keep a lid on a recession.

I suppose the last period in which they didn't huge growth was in the early 1990s after the sanctions of Tienanmen Square.

The game has changed since 1990 though. China is a lot more wealthy and has more influence over global affairs.

>>15100098
eating your own baby is still calorie-negative
dumb chinese

their government already has been ultra-pumping their economy to sustain growth
now that things are slowing down, they really don't have any cards left to play

>>15100098
>>The game has changed since 1990 though.
the game always changes quickly in china though...

>>15099994
what is the guy in the back sitting on?

>>15100201
he's standing

learn to perspective

>>15098763
I need to replace my car. It's falling apart despite my best efforts to keep it going.

>>15100201
its a work of post-cubism
you wouldn't be able to comprehend even if I told you

>>15100201
Maybe standing?

Perspective is fucked here, compare the angle of the table top to the angle of the chair-tops.

Chairs look like you’re viewing from the same level, but table is like you’re viewing from a higher level. you can see the table top but not the chair top.

Oh for god sakes some ass hat shot up a wally world in Texas this afternoon.

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>>15100285
FUCK

>>15100279
>>15100279
>>15100279

>>15100285
>15100279

Viva la new thread.

>>15100298
see >>15100297

>>15100162

I don't know enough about Chinese history prior to the 19th century to know how long dynasties lasted, but I'm sure they were more stable in the past. Wasn't Confucianism set up to value stability over all else?

>>15100043
Man they're going to be almost as fucked as the nips.

>>15100083
Yeah you can go fuck yourself. Like if you've got something better to do with your Saturday than bitch about me I suggest you seize the day.

>>15100162
I mean it really can change quickly and I think however this whole Hong Kong fiasco plays out is going to play a major roll in the coming years.

TVIX will hit $35-$40 next week. Screencap this

>>15100322
i think confucianism was just philosophy to fill in the gaps between taoism and buddhism, but yea it preaches stability (and worshiping the elderly) above all else

>>15100339
>>Man they're going to be almost as fucked as the nips.
indeed, but the question is, when is china going to experience 80's Japan style economy? and for how long?
>>I mean it really can change quickly and I think however this whole Hong Kong fiasco plays out is going to play a major roll in the coming years.
nothing, hong kong will be annexed eventually, they have no international support, and then that demographic strength china has comes into play even if they hypothetically did find someone to help

hongkong residents who arnt retarded should have gotten the fuck out of there a while ago, what else did anyone expect when it was handed over back to china? its chinese land, legally, recognized by basically every single country there is
there is nothing anyone can do if china begins to strip away rights from hong kong faster than it agreed before
what are they going to do, ask UK to defend them and take them back? UK cant power project for shit, they cant even protect their own ships in worlds busiest chokepoint for fucks sake

>>15099761
D-do you think mommy Tulsi swallows?

>>15100670
no she had a very religious upbringing
she's prude

you want a swallower, that's what Marianne is for
she'll suck you dry
she'll suck you inside out

>>15100685
She's kinda beat if I'm being honest with you.
She's been around. And around. And around.
She's got that cult leader vibe that says she probably got railed whenever she wanted by malleable young men.

>>15100830
If you're going to turn down some Marianne succ, then it just means that there is more for me

she has a well-trained and very capable mouth
probably roast downstairs, but the mouth stays right

>>15100856
DAMN quints. You nasty.