/biz/ - Business & Finance

no lol

yes lol

yes and no, depends on you, are you going to have a job once you are finished?
if you cant tell then no

>>15023553
yo lol

>>15023553
No.
Too old would be 30+

>>15023604
>Too old would be 30+

You're never too old to improve yourself you dumb zoomer piece of shit

>>15023553
No

>>15023553
no who cares

look at Craig Wright

>>15023553
imagine being 24 years old and still browsing 4channel

Cause that was after winning the war. War is insanely profitable for the victors. That value was used up though

To build the infrastructure we have today. Now things are different imo, it's not about building infrastructure it's about incremental innovation.

A willing pair of hands isn't enough any more to be wealthy. You must be intelligent

>>15023614
Your brain is dead just like your life prospects, boomer
You fucked it all up and you are never getting back up

>>15023699
how old are you?

>>15023553
Absolutely fucking not. Edward witten enrolled for applied math at 22, after a short stint as a journalist. He turned pretty ok.

>>15023699
>summerfag doesn't know that once he's here he's here FOREVER

>>15023737
t. zoomer thrash with a thrash opinion

>>15023553

Listen OP if I had believed that I wouldn't have the career I have now

My mother died when I was 16 and it threw my entire life off track. It took me until I was 24 to get my shit together and head back.

I'm happy as fuck now. Just go

>>15023627
i never understood this meme. How can you not have a job???

>>15023553
>>15023604
>>15023614
Nope. 32 here and 1.5 years away from completing college to pick up a second degree. Had a 70 year old guy graduate with me last May.

>>15023553
>uni
if you can pay for it without a loan, sure why not

of course not

>>15023910
and withstand the mandatory white man bad bullshit

>>15023553
If you're 24 & don't know the difference between "to" and "too", university isn't for you

>>15023553
No. I started my engineering degree at 23, finished in the 4 years and have been working for a year now.

I was working 3 jobs before, and starting to feel pretty shitty about the direction my life was going. Decided over a pint with a buddy of mine to start applying to engineering programs, nearly everyone in my immediate and extended family are engineers.
The future is looking a lot brighter now, great career prospects, getting married in a couple of months, both my fiance and I make great money, planning for kids.
Most important piece of advice I can give you if you do decide to pursue a degree is don't feel embarrassed by your age and find a group that spends a lot of time studying. It will rub off on you and motivate you to perform better.

Never too old to learn fren, make it and go back. Nbd

>pic related

>>15023553
If you do STEM then it's never too late.

>am I too old to fall for this scam?

>>15024152
>Believing higher education is a scam
Imagine being this big of a low life. Stop being lazy and apply yourself Anon.

>>15023553
No, I entered a nursing program at 30.

>>15023553
No, but you better do yourself a big favor and take Stats your first year, even if it's out of order. After 25, you're fucked learning entirely new skills.

>>15024205
Except for most people it is a scam. You can do the exact same business advancing starting as a clerk, doing a few night classes to get the books and HR bullshit, and not have debt and wasted work years. You'll be a fucking pro when everyone else is still trying to remember how to get dressed for their 2nd week of work.

>>15024205
it is you fucking retard...

>>15023553
lost my v-card at 23 or 24 don't remember, had a few years as a slayer afterwards.
Considering the average /biz/let a university recovery could be even simpler.
Go for it.

>>15023553
you're career sucks ass if this is the process you take. I had one 20min interview a few months after graduation. got a 75k paying job with a TS working on shit I actually give a fuck about. It's user error not a problem with society or how careers work

>>15023874
Imagine the part of your life where you get a job and you don't do that what's so hard to understand

>>15023553
Never too late. Just be realistic about why you're going to college and what your goals are. Is the return on investment worth it?

Also, consider junior college for your core classes or an associate's degree. University probably wouldn't have been for me but junior college was easy breezy.

>>15024359
do not settle for an associates degree, it's the equivalent of a second highschool diploma. Get in the military and use benefits to get a BS in some kind of engineering or a masters in computer science.

>>15023874
to be NEET you have to accept being an outcast, start living frugally and enjoy the little things.

Normies can't do it, so they become wagies.

>>15024257
You are right, but both of these things require you to apply yourself. You get from it what you put into it.
There are people I graduated with who are pretty as dim as the day they entered university, but most people never finished. Others grew a lot out of the experience and came out with genuine knowledge and skills.

>>15024273
Yikes.

,

>>15024402
But you still need to have some sort of income to eat and keep a roof over your head.

>>15024390
I went to a top 10 high school in the nation and got a GED. I couldn't take the brainwashing. I make good money with the Associate Degrees but they're technical degrees. Electronics and Industrial Technology stuff. My dad is an engineer and I delivered mail in his office for a while. Everyone looked so sad.

>>15024463
mommies house and tendies

I gave her enough money from my dec. 2017 earnings to renew the kitchen and took her to a decent vacation. Can't say shit to me.

>>15024402
>accept being an outcast
Be the pariah in your family leeching off your parents.
>start living frugally
Live off of handouts and NEET bucks forcing your parents to work until they die
>enjoy the little things
Play video games for 16 hours a day, never leaving the house out of shame.

Yikes. I'll pass.

>>15024529
anomaly level shit posting

>>15023553
>to

>>15024533
I'm pretty sure commuting for 2 hours and then waging with normies for 8 and then having to cook and watch reality tv everyday is so engaging. Hey at least you have a few holidays so you can travel and spend all your hard earned money and be in the same spot as the NEET again, that he achieved by literally doing nothing

>>15023699
>imagine being 39 years old and still browsing 4chan

>>15023614

>>15024533
so the only motivation to work is some half-assed ego/character power trip and ethical considerations?

>>15023699
>implying I have any other form of social interaction
>implying there is any escape

Nope. Had a 42 year old in my algorithms course and he was the most insightful ans interesting person in the class. Dont cuck yourself

>>15024686
No, the main motivation is parents not willing to support jobless sons living with them indefinitely.

>>15025126
This, its never to late to begin. Just find your goal and work every day towards it. No more zero days, every day needs to me oriented towards what you want.

>>15023553
*too
Buy everyone alcohol and don't be a fag about it and yes.

>>15023553
>1950's
>What unit were you in?
>...wait...you didn't serve?

Be glad

>>15024670
y-yeah. imagine..

>>15023699
Fag, you are here forever, can confirm.

>>15023956
Thank you bro, I'm 22 and I am thinking about doing Engineering too.

>>15025306
Hey im 22 also whats up !

>>15024588
checked and also cringed

go learn something you fucking retards, unless u are already useful but I'm guessing you aren't

>>15023553
"Yikes! who is that weirdo boomer what is he doing here! :D"

Serious answer, no, in usa median age is prolly ~20 and in europe around ~23 new students, but if plan to take average 7 years it's gonna be rough path

>>15024643
I consider myself pretty lucky. I had the opportunity to work at our family business doing consulting work. I work with my brother and father and a few other good lads. Pretty comfy.
My day to day is quite interesting, spending about half the day in the office and half on site. Business trips although few and far between are also a nice perk. I was in Banff a couple of months ago skiing and eating tasty steaks compliments of a supplier.
The commute is a bit of a ball buster I'll give you that.

>>15024686
>so the only motivation to work is some half-assed ego/character power trip and ethical considerations?
You said that, not me. Create your own motivation.

>>15025456
>Create your own motivation
Or look to a higher power.

>>15025456
>work for daddy's company
>create your own motivation
lmao

>>15023861
>thrash opinion
go to university

>>15025532
Imagine throwing away that kind of opportunity. It was pretty much the norm until a few decades ago.
But anon made fun of me for it so I guess I'll go work for Scheckleberg Goldsteinsilverson instead.

>>15023699
Ahaha, we've got a fresh one here, boys

>>15023553
Imagine being insecure about furthering your own education.
No age is too old. If you care that much then drop out of life.

>>15024675
>he seeks to improve himself what a faggot

>>15023737
I used to believe in this meme and let it really demoralise me, but actually being 30 now I actually learn things a lot faster. I taught myself C++ in 8 months to a high enough standard to get employed but when I was a 20 year old I couldn’t concentrate for shit. It’s like even though my brain is slower it’s also better at focusing on the relevant information.

>>15024533
My usual routine for summer;
wake up around 10:30
drink some water and a cup of coffee
15 min work out routine, simple body weight training.
usually eat eggs as breakfast
watch some anime
play vidya games until afternoon
15 min workout at around 6~6:30
eat dinner
go out for a walk after 20:30, at least for half an hour. Just listen some music
Back at home, take a shower, do whatever I want. Then sleep.

I don't feel any lethargy, I'm not depressed, if anything I feel way better than I ever felt. I was depressed in high school,uni and at work. I took therapy, and concluded that I'm not made out to spend 12 hrs of my day for mr. shekelberg.

>>15023553
Unless you have a good reason why you don't have your degree by age 23, then employers just assume that you're a fucking loser or a poorfag.

>>15025872
Sounds pretty comfy, but I'm not sure how much of that I could handle, its a little aimless no?
I actually enjoy what I do, but I could definitely do without the commute. But thats the circumstance I find myself in for now, working on changing that.

>>15023627
Shut the fuck up , get your good boy points and eat your tendies you stupid cocksucker

>>15023553
if you can find a field that is both in demand and somewhat interesting to you then its not too late for university. you're setting yourself up to be successful at 28. Most people are not successful at 28, especially in modern times.

>>15025456
I get what you're saying but you don't really have any right to say it. I appreciate the honesty about nepotism making your life great. But you don't know what these guys' lives are like, and had you been born as them and they born as you, obviously the roles would simply be reversed and you'd be the one reading some guy telling you to motivate yourself while mom and dad are screaming at each other in the other room of a 1 bedroom apartment. You had good parents, they had shit parents, that's honestly the only difference between you and them.

Now me on the other hand, I was a neet, and a meth addict up until 23yrs old (currently 28). And to keep a long story short, ALL ON MY GOD DAMN OWN AND WITH NOBODIES HELP I figured it out. And not only did my actions change my life, it changed my entire families future. I showed my parents that no matter what shit hand I was dealt I WILL fucking succeed. This motivated them. They started making changes. Sure my dad had a couple of strokes, but he's got tiger blood, dudes still walking and talking. Mom got a job for the first time in TWENTY YEARS. Brother joined the navy and is top of his class. I proved it is possible to start with a bad hand and play it and win anyway. It took years of literal wage slavery and I am still nowhere close to where I want to be but I should be the one talking to these neets, I have the right to use the n word, you don't.

Realtalk now: How does one get neetbux, what is the easiest state and what is the simplest 'medical condition' which would keep you from working to fake? Anywhere that rent is lower than buxchex?

>>15025872
Yes but how do you sustain it

>>15026068
My aim is to get into shape, so no, It's not aimless. Gained 15kgs last year, lost 10 of those, still have way to go. It's quite hard to lose fat and grow muscles. After I reach my goal, sustaining it will be my goal. Other than that I yeah, currently no "life goals". I'm fine like this, I don't really need one.
>>15026236
Currently spend roughly $100 a month, sustaining it isn't that hard. Also, crypto(still spending from december 2017 profits).Wasn't expecting bear market to be 1.5 year long, so I live way frugally. When I first cashed out, I spent like crazy.

>>15026187
Good on you for succeeding and in doing so, encouraging your family to do well. :)

>>15023553
Boomer managers offer you less money for the exact same position they held 30 years ago and then wonder why you resent the company

>>15024529
if you fuck her you can stay for ever

>>15024257
The point is going to a good college teaches you how to learn. Something invaluable. This whole 'college is a scam' you can learn 'everything while working' Is the biggest BULLSHIT i've ever come across.

Or your college SUCKS.

All the BIG PEOPLE IN LIFE WENT TO FUCKING COLLEGE YOU IMBICIL.

Bitch op, I'm 52 and a full time sophomore at a D1 school. Never thought I would be in my 50s, fucking 19-23 year olds on the regular.

Im starting a new job tomorrow and my supervisors all have either associates degrees or no degrees.

Now I get to live at home and pay off my student loans

>>15028519
College gives you a fire under you, if you don't pass you fail out. It also gives you a structure, telling you exactly what you need to study.
Online courses can mitigate this quite a bit, if you can give yourself a fire you can do just as well. But that part is harder than it sounds. also without accreditation you'll usually be punished in the job market.

but to your point, either most colleges SUCK (so he has a point?) or they are given a lot of credit for really what is only pressure and structure.

>>15023772
Based

I'm about to start at 29 got 8 years experience in the field I'm going into tho hehe

Im 24 and transferring to a uni in Colorado after 4 years in community college
Its so damn hard finding a decent 1BR apartment for less than $1400

literally no

https://www.cleveland.com/tipoff/2019/07/car-mechanic-shifts-gears-becomes-a-doctor-at-age-47-and-helps-address-shortage-of-black-doctors.html

>>15024533

>>15023553
Do it bro, you'll get to bang a bunch of hot 18 year olds fresh out of high school because you'll be the most mature-looking alpha male around.

>>15023604
I'm 30 and live in dorms. I look younger and lie about my age though.

>>15023874
Can crypto just die down a bit so the normies can go away? holy shit.

24 is when you should go to college...

It is an objective fact that most people's brains don't finish developing until well into your mid-twenties. So to think it's too late at 30 is preposterous.

What you have been fed in pop culture and social media is a steady stream of youth worship specifically designed to make you think it's too late to make something of yourself. It is a conscious effort to keep you mired in medocrity, content with wageslaving to fund an empty consumer existence. Contributing to that is a crabs-in-the-bucket mentality where people will universally deride you for making going back to school or picking up a new career not because they actually know any better, but because they are bitter and want to see you fail.

Do what you want to do with your life. Just don't fall into the wagie or NEET traps. Those are two sides of the same miserable coin.

>>15028519
I agree that you should at least go. Degrees are kinda overrated but the experience isn't.

>>15028519
Doesn't teach you how to spell, eh?

>>15023553
Unless you are going to get a certificate, which usually takes only 1-2 years to get, probably a little too late. Trade school might work out tho

>>15024390
Anon speaks the truth.

Go military. Use GI bill to get your BS in STEM.

You clearly don't know right now so don't force a decision that potentially destroys you via too much debt.

>>15023553
way too old. KEK

>>15023699
Yea, imagine haha

>>15030623
>thinking grunts have the brains to do STEM
Most peple spend their GI bill on a random BA degree like business and fuck off. Hardly anyone from the Army suddenly become engineers or medical

>>15030710
Listen pal. He asked for advice. I provided actionable advice.

You just offer criticism. Worthless.

>>15030710
Also people go to the military because they can't into a BS STEM degree. I don't know where the "go to military and then become a genius engineer" meme came from.

I'm 24 and I'm in community college doing IT it will take my 1,5 years to finish.

>>15030745
I don't want a crayon-eating retard to waste his GI bill on a degree he can't finish.

Just get a BA in anything and combined with Vet status and a bachelors, you can easily get any civil service jobs such as police officer or firefighter.

This is real advice. Not giving dumb grunts false hope that he can magically become computer wizards or an engineer. LMAO

>>15023604
considering the competiting job market I'd say that anything more than 24 is too old
at 30 you shlould already have a wife and childs
t. NEET

>>15030798
advice from a neet that can't spell, now you know who your comfy posters are lmao

its annoying how they're starting to push stem on kids now in elementary school but when I was in school they were pushing us to be meme lawyers and BUSINESS degrees

>>15030782
Also I know Engineering is hard because I fucking dropped out from the program and know plenty of others that did so as well. All of them including me did a shitton of studying and were all 2200+ SAT score (out of 2400) students. Yet we still sucked at engineering.

How do you then expect a random high school graduate retard that is going to the army (because he have nowhere else to go) to magically get a BS STEM degree?

>>15023553
>to old
>to
i think its too late

>>15030947
*to late

>>15030759
Because the military will pay for your education.

>>15030968
Yeah but vets all just get a BA, or die trying to get a BS STEM degree. My point is that most vets simply don't have the brains to suddenly tackle a STEM program once they are out of the Armed Forces.

Maybe military folks have a huge chip on their shoulder but they have to admit that they went Army because they didn't have the brains to go to a good university and learn STEM. Don't give people in this board false hope that they can easily get a STEM degree after going to the military.

>>15024670
Best part is I don't have to..

>>15023699
Yeah I wish I was still 24

>>15023553
>>15023553
I graduated uni at 28. Did it part time. Worked part time and finished with no debt. Travelled all over E asia and then S E asia banging intelligent beautiful insects and saving a fortune. I invested everything in stocks and made even more money. I returned to Canada at 34 and started computer programming at a local college. I am average intellectually, however, my life experiences has led me to surround myself with quite a few smart guys who are going places. We got a start up in mind. Do not go for some bullshit. See if it has a co op program or learn a trade. You can not go wrong investing in yourself. Dont go because you do not know what to do. Go because you know what you want to do.

>>15031014
>Maybe military folks have a huge chip on their shoulder but they have to admit that they went Army because they didn't have the brains to go to a good university and learn STEM. Don't give people in this board false hope that they can easily get a STEM degree after going to the military.
this.
I am in the opinion that everyone follows his talents naturally
people that go to stem naturally they are high IQ not some average/sub average scum military

>>15023553
Yes

>>15031500
average intellect?
what is your IQ?

>>15023614
this