/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>15003523
No

>>15003523
Do you really think most of us is gonna make 10m+ a year OP? or are you just a massive delusional faggot?

>>15003523
Also why waste time making this slide threads man. Is there something wrong? You need to talk it out?

>>15003547
Prove me wrong then. Just my opinion

>>15003523
>UBI
>implying my gains taxes would go towards that and not giant tech companies
>also implying UBI is not an eventual necessity in a world where technology makes jobs obsolete

>>15003579
Prove what? Your saying this some economics argument? If your trying to say it is then let me tell you that all the stuff that you stated is almost impossible for a country that is the size of the u.s.a. government rounded handouts can work when it's a small level country with a strong working population but with a country like the United States it will either be shit or completely cheap and obsolete.

>>15003620
It's also Easley aboused in large scale country's. And you say you want this with thousands of migrants coming in? That means a program like that will collapse within a few years which means, more cost, more bloat budget and more wait time.

>>15003600
So no ones gonna need money, but the governments gonna let you keep yours?

Lol

she's gonna be president in 2032 and cause the global financial crisis
screencap this and remember

>>15003523
She won't even win a second term. Her own party has already turned on her.

>>15003523
No.

>>15003523
Fuck off you pol retard.

>>15003523
No
but i'd let her domme the fuck out of me though

>>15003650
Depends if the people without money are gonna be left alone so they can actually work for the money that they will use to buy the healthcare,food and education. Something that big government doesn't understand.

I would defile this woman.

>>15003523
Your prognostication is very homoerotic and illusory.
>doesn't deserve to be part of the /biz/thinktank

>>15003711
checked. I would totally batter the cavity walls of this semen demon with muh throbbing loin-juice

>>15003523
She'll probably be voted out. People in her own district don't even like her.

>>15003523
Imagine believing the US won’t be balkanized into smaller nation states (and when i say nation i mean the true definition) in 20/30 years

>>15003523
Turning a Spanish girl from the Bronx into the “boogeyman”? Fucking hold your horses...she’ll be just as ineffective as trump if she ever gets any real power in govt. slow your roll kid.

>>15003712
What do you think was actually said in this moment? It appears it may be close to the caption based upon body labguage but fuck i really want to know

>>15003672
>>15003678
>>15003690
>>15003704

It's not about AOC really. She's just a manifestation of where the U.S. is going politically. Automation will destroy people's ability to work. You think they're going to starve and twiddle their thumbs? No. They're gonna take your wealth and redistribute it, and the humanist in me doesn't really blame 'em even though I want to make it.

>>15003785
She's mexican you fucking dingus. What you've said is like saying that pajeets and kikes are the same as english

>>15003806
>be physiocrat
>realize they're going to tax automation because shitlibs are retarded
>buy land in industrial districts
>charge faggots rent
>pay no tax

>20-30 years
>he thinks the (((plan))) isnt in its late staged
>he doesnt see the obvious civil war that will start in the next 5 to 7 years
LOOK AT THIS DUDE

>>15003774
unlikely

>>15003806
Bullshit. Automation has been going on for a long time, it is just a leftist excuse to steal other peoples money. People can always work for themselves and their nonautomated community.

>>15003806
You’re retarded

What's going to happen to our 401(k)s? My dad keeps telling me that they'll go after the middle class eventually.

>>15003820
She's unironically not even Mexican you fucktard. She's Puerto Rican

>>15003876
Oh god that's even worse then being Mexican. There the most butthurt of spics.

>>15003523
She has a favorability rating worse that. Trump. She's basically the tea party of the left. She'll be a literal who in 2-6 years.

>>15003806
sadly i'm too busy fapping to cartoons to care anymore

>>15003786
Me too desu. Me too.

>>15003774
Nah, states are more likely to combine than keep breaking up. Infact, it would actually be more efficient if we only had like 6 or 7 states or something.

>>15003600
Technology has been making jobs obsolete since the dawn of time.

>>15003806
There is nothing "humanist" about theft. Especially when done by obese, smoking, beer drinking, lazy fucks.

>>15003523
WHO IS SHE

>>15003909
based and commies-get-the-rope-pilled

>>15003851
Yeah, automated delivery trucks have been around a long time.. Fully automated fast food restaurants are everywhere and have been a long time. Automated surgeries have been going on for hundreds of years. You can always work for yourself because there isnt any competition or needed capitol to invest. Anyone can just start a successful business and everything else in your life just fall into place.. it's so easy to be a millionaire you just have to do it right?

>>15003523
>"""woman"""
That's a goblin.

>>15003942
Basic life necessities will be cheaper thanks to automation, helping the poor. People can produce their own stuff they need by working for themselves. You lack imagination.

>>15003851
>>15003942

Thank you. There's massive cope in this thread pretending like 4th industrial revolution is no big deal.

https://youtu.be/V1eYniJ0Rnk

>>15003820
Read, shitface.

>>15003961
>Basic life necessities will be cheaper thanks to automation
If this is true, why has the opposite been happening? Its "easier" now with tech to make light bulbs, produce fuel, farm, irrigate, make bread, bottle water, milk cows, produce electricity... but all those things are more expensive now. You cant just work for yourself and make money. The more people that try saturated the ability to do so. UBI is absolutely necessary because of automation. You lack imagination and the ability to distinguish reality and an absolute inevitability.

>>15003523
I love here, would wife.

>>15004068
Prices go higher because of government caused inflation. Not automations fault.

>>15004068
You can work for yourself and produce the things you use for yourself. No money needed. Barter with friends, pay no taxes.

>>15003542
>Unironically believing American leftists aren't going to increase taxes on every single income bracket

Delusional

>>15004100
Bartering would still generate income, stupid fuck.

>>15004152
barter
/ˈbɑːtə/
verb
1.
exchange (goods or services) for other goods or services without using money.

What do words mean?

>>15004173
What does IRC Sec. 61 mean? You're talking to a CPA. I know for a fact that bartering would generate income.

>>15003523
jokes on you faggot im moving to a latin amerian country. ill be king shit in my shithole spanish speaking country fucking the hottest trannys and nat chicks on the planet.

>>15004181
What is the black market?

>>15003961
>Basic life necessities will be cheaper thanks to automation

lol
they might be cheaper, but people wont be able to afford them anyway since they wont have jobs

trying buying an item for a penny when you dont have a penny

>>15004182
>Sick of subhumans raising your taxes
>Moving to ground zero of high tax shitholes with the added bonus of near universal violent crime

This seems counter productive but generally when you think with your dick this should be expected.

>>15004187
That's still all income.

"Except as otherwise provided in this subtitle, gross income means all income from whatever source derived"

>>15003523
Do you realize how sensible her politics are? How slandered she is by wealthy interests that control conservative media and policy?

People who think she’s bad only do so because they are either screwed up in the head from racism/misogyny or they are puppets for the 0.0001% and don’t even know it

>>15004207
I am trying to point out that people can survive outside the official monetary system.

>>15004199
Adapt or die. I owe you nothing.

>>15004220
very very few people anon
if you think you could and have no farming experience you're probably wrong

>>15004092
That doesnt change the fact more people are going out of work because of automation. It doesnt change the fact it's cheaper to have a machine powered by cheap electricity to produce goods than paying a human and the liability costs. Inflation has nothing to do with the jobs being replaced.
>>15004100
No you cannot produce all the things you need for free, and you are a retard if you believe that. You cant make a house for free, you cant buy land for free, you cant raise cattle for free, you cant produce your own electricity for free, you cant just have free internet or healthcare or car insurance, or a car for free. Gas isnt free. Places that do have some of these things for free, you have to have money to get there. You have to have permits, licensing, insurance, work and comp, computers, phones, transportation, taxes if you want to start your own business. The first 2 years of most businesses are trying to maintain costs and generally are in the red. You have no idea what you are talking about.

>>15004220
This is a pretty good video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHWAi_xCA_s

>>15004220
You are saying you can do it without money, and you are wrong. If you live in a society, you cant just do whatever you want, especially at no cost. You sound like a kid.

>>15003876
jesus, imagine voting for foreign invaders to rule over you

>>15004236
>>15004244
>>15004253
It is good that people who can't take care of themselves die off. Good for the species in the long run.

>>15003523
>Gets elected
>Put all my money into "internet points"
>Wealth redistribution happens
>Government sees I have no money
>Get free money from government whilst still having rest of money in internet points
>Profit

>>15004276
I never said you get to do things without cost. The cost might be something other than money.

>>15003901
You and I are both going to be correct. The will combine....into new Sovereign nation states. This map probably isn't too far off actually, but again these will be sovereign. There is going to come a point very soon where the 2 sides will not be able to politically reconcile. We're already there, just that the group which is peaceful by nature is in control. Once the violent by nature group gains power the end is present.

>>15004215
>muh racism

It's nothing to do with race. A white lefty will take your money just the same

>>15004289
>It is good that people who can't take care of themselves die off. Good for the species in the long run.
>Basic life necessities will be cheaper thanks to automation, helping the poor. People can produce their own stuff they need by working for themselves. You lack imagination.
I wasnt as stupid as you when I was 7 years old. Are you a product of incest?

>>15004215
>Do you realize how sensible her politics are?
lmao, you deserve the bullet just for that

>>15004205
firstly south america is not all shithole, the shitty areas are really shitty and the good places are really nice. You wouldnt say america is a total shithole cuz of some niggers in baltimore.if you avoid it then you are perfectly fine. of course dont be guy with wads of usds spending throwing it around like crazy, thats bound to get you fucked with no matter where you are.

secondly, the money wouldnt be in that country it would be held offshore you know like how smart people do it

thirdly, people like AOC is going to make everyone here insanely rich, i come from a socialist country, not as bad as venezuela but still, i know how these socialist faggots operate. They wont actually do what they say they will do, everything is really a play for building up a totally corrupt and kleptocractic society where resources are shifted and spent on people that are political aligned with little to no oversight, that is what is coming for america.
Also they may hike the taxes but they will create loopholes where you can escape from
the biggest example of this is france
france is a socialist shithole but next door is monaco where all the rich french people can hang out and hide off their money.
A Monaco will be created in america or around various parts of america it will be ultra exclusive and the same people who are rich and socialist (in name only) will be residents there and avoid taxes while the rest of the country get taxed to shithole status

>>15004289
Yeah, they're just gonna watch their kids stave and ignore the top 10% cause you earned it, right?

The average American will make $60,000 in 2019. Progressive income deductions (Socialism at its best) will be made to people who earn at least one million a year.
Hand over your children to the military industrial complex and bind your masters.
Obey

>>15004298
>I am trying to point out that people can survive outside the official monetary system.
>You can work for yourself and produce the things you use for yourself. No money needed. Barter with friends, pay no taxes.
Yeah you did. How the fuck are you producing goods to trade with no money dipshit? Duh black market? How are you trading on the black market without any money? How long has it been since you left you uncle brother's basement?

>>15004335
You do realize that obesity is a bigger problem than starvation in the first world? But I guess you couldn't justify theft if everything was good in the world.

>>15004303
Take your civil war murder nihilism and fuck off.

>>15004303
We still will be United States brother. Imagine breaking apart as United States. Huge disrespect to the man on the penny.

>>15004373
kek

OP is a tard.

>>15003523

What you'd say to me little bitch? I'm a whale with 104 link (404 million in 2022 dollars) so shit your bitch ass.

>>15003523
>>15003876
>>15004215
WHATS HER NAME?

>>15004358
Yeah, think about that. Might grow a brain cell or two.

>>15004419
Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez

>>15004286
Puerto Ricans are American. I do agree that we need to ban all immigration immediately though.

>>15003760
Why? It’s not like she ruined a deal with amazon removing tons of potential jobs or anything.

>>15004453
Damn, all those amazing Amazon jobs. What a devil she is, Bezos should have all the money

>>15004182
Latin American countries will definitely tax you even more. If you're mega rich you could maybe buy yourself New Zealand citizenship. That's what the mega rich are doing now

>>15003904
It's going to rapidly accelerate with robots and AI.

>>15003909
>>15003961
completely detached from reality it's not even funny

here in the real first world we don't let our citizens starve in the street and provide a fair playing field for people to succeed; in the US you can irrevokably ruin your life due to circumstances out of your control, i.e. born in shit family, injured/sick and bogged down in obscene medical bills, no free education, non-livable minimum wages

it's actually insane how idiotic you have to be to not see the long term benefits of healthy taxes - you call it "theft" like a fucking simpleton because you can't see how the entire country benefits from these basic services; a happy, healthy, educated workforce FEEDS BACK INTO YOUR OWN POCKETS - plus if you aren't a shit human you don't want 20% of your population to live in perpetual suffering

what the US needs is a STRONG pull toward the left, but it's hard when half the population consists of brainwashed brainlets

>>15004525
Keep blaming others for your own mistakes and avoid responsibility like a good sheep. You will never make it.

>>15004551
You ignored his entire point you fucking cultist.

>>15004525
Socialism works quite well in ethnically homogeneous countries with tight border policies, I'm all for it as long as we ban all immigration and deports the tens of millions of illegals. Until that happens you can go fuck yourself leftypol

>>15004551
my mother makes a million usd pre tax a year, I need nothing

I benefit immensely from low taxes, yet here I am arguing they should be high, because I'm not a garbage human

>>15004445
Thank you. So thats the AOC i been hearing of...

>>15004570
Found the champagne socialist. Many of us would be happy paying taxes if the left didn't make it obvious that they want to take all our tax money and give it to niggers. I don't trust the government to not grossly mismanage and embezzle any taxes that they take without our consent.

>Implying AOC can effect me
She's in New York, and I'm all the way over here in California. She will have a long political career, you can already tell she knows how to keep the spotlight, but it's not like she's going to be president or control the IRS, treasury, trade, or something.

>>15004597
>he doesn't know
anon... making big promises and not following through is politics 101. You always tell people you're going to give people free money, either through tax cuts or government spending.

Trump does both lmao, cuts taxes and increases spending. Apparently the republicans have abandoned the mask of fiscal conservatism.

legitimately if it comes down to that ill find a good way to go out and make sure my keys are lost to the wind before they are taken for redistribution

>>15004525
Higher taxes hurt the poor

>>15004570
It is always the people who have lived easy lives defending high taxes.

>>15004612
Trump is a zionist shill, fuck him too.

>>15004597
>champagne socialist
>give it to niggers
>the gubnment
thank god I live in a sane country so I don't have to deal with this shit on a daily basis

I can't think of many demographics worse than american right wingers; abysmal values, pisspoor arguments, entire political party consists of blatantly selfserving corrupt idiots

>>15004602
>Implying AOC can effect me
>She's in New York, and I'm all the way over here in California
Cali already does a lot of what AOC wants to do.

/thread

>>15004570
Then quit volunteering everyone's money like a greedy fuck and just donate your own you selfish asshole. Why is it greedy to want to keep your own money but not greedy to volunteer everyone elses

>>15004571
what rock do you live under?

>>15004641
You're the one being a selfish asshole by not being willing to chip into a healthy society.

>>15004630
"Champagne Socialist" originated in Britain and people in the government are unironically advocating for slavery reparations as we speak. Fuck off retard