/biz/ - Business & Finance

AMDCHADS WE RYZEN THE FUCK UPPPPPPPPP!!!
T Babies and SNSSChads we lookin real good. I love you /smg/

Was looking at AAPL puts just last night, with it pumping so hard into earnings...

And the trump news isn't even causing the price to drop? Dang...

This gondola is rickety as fuck but i continue to ride upwards.

$BYND after hours +5%

THREADLY REMINDER THAT DIVIDENDS ARE YOUR FREN

how much longer can this golden bull sustain? jobs numbers and GDP have been great.

>>14985754
RSI indicates overbought. Should I stock up on puts?

>>14985754
shorts are going to murder this stock down, its trading at fucking 300 times cash. amazon is trading at 20 times cash.

and there are other fake meat companies as well as the inevitable backlash against processed fake meat

if I had bigger balls, I'd short the shit out of it once a drop starts habbenig

What the fuck?
Is this new?

I always have limit buys and limit sells just waiting on standby.

>>14985921

dab on the minorities and elderly. This ain‘t your grandma‘s annuity

LPTX what happening

Bullish

>>14985957
$3 incoming

SOON

>>14986005
>>14985957
>Calling NASA, calling NASA
>This is Apollo 9, condition green
>We've landed on Mars, and all systems are go...

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

steaks tonight boys

jk chicken is on sale

as days get warmer today was beer drinking / trolling day got a yuuge fish xD spy ath warned that panic buying must come before any kind of correction, now first panic buying days it seems as vola too high from open to close

>>14985832
I so badly want to short the company right now, but I've been keeping my account as a cash account for LCI. Frustrating.

spy ath warned that panic buying must come before any kind of correction, now first panic buying days it seems as vola too high from open to close

xau +0.19%, bynd 234 destroying bad retail investors like tesla used to, eurusd feeling pressure flirting lon term resistance

>>14985941
You are aware that you can only make 3 round trip trades per week, right?

>>14986209
Yeah, but I have 0 day trades, I've only done 3-5 in 6 months or so of using RobinHood.

Got that BYND put, 59th minute buy
Time for the vegetable squeeze back under $150

Ding ding ding! How did everyone do this week? I'm up .42% today, good but underperforming the indices. Ah well, my callies have expired good and I got a fat divvy off of GEO (does not mitigate losses). Good day!
Today we're going to a Romano's in Murray, Utah!

>>14986282
Up about 12.6% today.

I got fucked by a fake burger. I hate this shit.

>>14986282
I have a 3 step system:
>shill it
>grill it
>kill it
I shill amarin to everybody, then I just fuckin pile drive into it, really turn up the heat on that grill. A week later I get fresh tendies, killin it out here. Up 0.27% today, here‘s the week.

>>14986282
Up 1% today, let's not speak too much about the rest of the week

Stable position, betting against BYND now with 0.5% of my RH account

Bought more KNG
Everyone should buy more KNG

>>14986282
Meaty +8% with some of that in taken profit. Splendid day.

>>14986282
>>14986349
AH update, still below strike so i get to keep these gains too. Actually, max gains will put me at around 9.4k for next week.

Bobo the Bear BTFO

>>14986282
Ror! Up 3% today. It's been a crazy week. About to dip from work, grab some scotch, and go hang out in VR for a while. You guys are great! Never thought 4chan would be such a nice addition to my life. Thank you /smg/. May check in again later

my my...

>>14986201
before the SPY reaches fair value of 400 it must first reach 303, 330 ect so not surprising

>>14986282
up 0.7 percentile, this Week felt like went by too fast

Todays losses are tomorrows gains, bros. Never forget.

>>14986282
My SPY puts got raped, all gains for the week lost, still should be positive on the month, at least

beautiful BYND made my portfolio greener again today

>>14985832
Shorts are going to get the shit squeezed out of them when they have to buy more stock to cover

>>14985803
Advice on which dividend stocks are safe with reliable returns?

>>14986568
PG and JNJ are probably two of the safest stocks out there

also check out: https://www.simplysafedividends.com/dividend-safety-scores/

>>14986568
QYLD is the only one you need.

>>14985820
Youll be betting against meme magik unlike the market has ever seen before

>>14986644
Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muss man schweigen.

The magic took them this far
It is over, it is finished
Do you hear me Ethan? Your little charade has gone on long enough
You'll be eating processed pea protein from a tube when I'm done with BYND

Curious, what are your guys strategies on buying stock.

Eg
>dividends / only dividendeds

>>14986282
Up 2.41% for the week! I limited my options trading and didn't spread myself out too thin. Time to enjoy my weekend

Stock is now priced under my buy order but it still hasn't been bought. Is that a bad sign? Not enough volume? Get the vibe I'm getting antsy and looking for a diamond in the rough to escape wagecuckery. Advice on not making a dumb choice and buying a lot of cheap no name stock that ends up losing me all my money?

Reminder that when the market turns, it'll happen FAST. I don't think I ever actually watched this whole thing, I got no idea who Bill Pool is, sounds like a dweeb.

https://cnb.cx/2OGaEdE

>>14986736
Not clicking that link. U saying we due for a flash crash?

>>14986685
I have no position but my mom does

Heres to wishing you get fugged

i must be the worst investor itt...

>>14986826
>I have no position but my mom does

Missionary with Tyrone and Chad?

>>14986826
Hey I hope your mom takes the nice profit and then buys back in once they let off some steam
I hope we all can get some digging done this weekend. I have to work until midnight tonight and Saturday though

>>14986839
baggie what's your current investable/invested net worth?

>>14986871
Digging = fugging
Ok I'm done with phoneposting forever this shit drives me up a fugging wall

The BYND meat meme stock is officially dead. I will be closing everything and putting it all on puts. Fuck BYND meat. They're going to get so fucked up after earnings. I can't wait to see all you homeless faggots clinging to your worthless shares when we're done with this company.

>>14986895
I dunno probably about 200-250k

>>14986914
then no there are worse investors itt

How much research do you guys do before actually purchasing a stock?
What are signs to look for?

Anybody else snapping up opioid-sued pharma stock? Fire sale at the moment.

>>14986929
yeah but most of that shit is like sitting in accounts i'm going to die before i'll ever be able to spend and it just all goes to my government and beneficiaries.

>>14986840
My mom is the sweetest, nicest, most religious person. Your insults dont work on her she prays for your tainted soul instead.

>>14986991
that's not the only thing she does well on her knees

>>14986972
JNJ is a buy, especially if it keeps dipping.

>>14986685
>Speaking the language of Deutsche Bank
>betting against a cult stock without insider knowledge
Why fuck around? So many people got vaporized playing around with Tesla.

>>14986090
I did DCA somewhat, never got all the way down to my target price of 1.75, which is where I think the insiders were making big buys.

Can't believe I've been holding this shit since March, no wonder I lost faith and trimmed so much. Could've made much more off of it...

LPTX to mars!

>>14986794
No. I wish I had been in the market then, as I usually have limit buys ready to go, and rarely use stop-losses.

I'm just giving a trip down FUD memory lane. I think all time highs is always a time to be wary, NOT a time to say "oh boy, smooth sailing ahead!"

It's just cnbc's link-shortened version of this:
https://www.cnbc.com/video/2017/08/03/watch-the-full-rant-cramers-they-know-nothing.html

>>14986901
>we fell short of our projected earnings, but I'd like to announce a new partnership with Elon Musk! A Beyond cooler build into every new Tesla and SpaceX rocket! We're going BeyondEarth™ !

>>14986929
I fail to see your logic there, that could be after 99% losses.

>>14986933
Depends on the stock. Usually I just translate the letters into chinese characters and then use I Ching fortune telling.

Sometimes though I'll look at the company's website, what some analysts have to say, what the P/E ratio and dividend yield are, what the chart looks like and its bollinger bands, any recent news stories, etc.

>>14986997
Nope, doesnt work baggie, the more vitriol you spew the more you get rekt

>>14986933
divvyfren here.

1. P/E Most stocks I'm willing to purchase at this time in the bull market need to have a p/e under the S&P 500

2. Dividend yield (between 1% and 5%, sometimes I'll look at stocks above (like BTI, T, MO, etc.)

3. Payout Ratio: I'd like it to be under 50 percent but I bend from this rule depending on the company. (FFO for REITs)

4. CAGR: Compound Annual Growth Rate of the dividend

5. Market Cap: Usually needs to be above 10B aka Large Cap for me to invest in

6. Fundamentals: once all that is done, I look at fundamentals to determine the average yoy growth of the company, ensuring competitive moat is wide (the company cannot be easily displaced), their debt to equity ratio, etc, and the multiple the company is trading times cash.

5. Finally, I look at where it is compared to its 52 week high (or ATH) and 52 week low (or ATL) and determine why to see if its catching a fallen knife or buying an undervalued asset.

>>14987062
>20 year old family guy joke retold as a 4koma with speech bubbles
Wow... you saved this?
I can't decide if that's a cringe or a yikes.

Fucking love divvies though. LMT just crashed after hours and its VERY tempting but above my basis.

What's a good phone app to track your stock portfolio that doesn't require an account?

>>14984953
>cohabiting with your fiancee prior to marriage

Disgusting.

GEO just took a shit too... I kinda want to get more but my bags are already a pretty good size.

>>14986101
Congrats. I remember when LCI was up once.

The Fed's low interest rate nonsense has caused a massive over-valuation of the stock market. It's too hot. Just look at how markets reacted to the audacious and totally unprecedented idea of raising interest rates ... by 0.05? It's a glass house built upon the conception that institutions will keep on getting free money and shoving it in stocks, not any real or realistically projected increase in actual economic value. What the fuck actually warrants a 30% increase in the S&P 500 in the span of two or three years?

Either the Federal Reserve will raise interest rates and let the market flop from the delusional high it stands at, or the effects of inflation materialize to such a degree that the Federal Reserve is forced to let it flop.

>>14987062
Thoughts on BGS? Just checked their cash flow and balance sheet, both look much better than the current price suggests. P/E is also low.

>>14987508
Powell has the right idea. He’s getting mind fucked by trump though. Even after the interest rate rising in dec 2018, the market recovered. Now the market is demanding a cut and will ask for another and another until there’s no more room left to cut.

I would be up 3.5% instead of 2.5 % this week. Fuck TURkey. Any TMUS holders here?

Considering going all in on VNQ and becoming a REITchad because dividends and low volatility. Is this retarded?

>>14986901
Post screenshot of your puts. BYND is seriously overbought but I think earnings day will be in line with projections and the stock will pump due to euphoria.

>>14986282
me short @ 3029 never filled even though hit that price many times -_-;
alittle annoyed no going into weekend with ez short

>>14987576
The market recovered? Wasn’t that due to the plunge protection team and the Pivot™?

Trump actually spoke directly to the American people to tell them, “buy stocks, incel”

>>14987144
;_;

Do you have a list of stocks you'd like to buy at low prices when the next recession hits?

>>14987781
the recession has been canceled, plunge protection team is fully operational and will not allow the market to wreck the boomer's retirements

>>14987781
Smallcap index.

>>14987576
>>14987508
1. It's about hitting the targeted inflation rate, we have consistently been below 2%
2. Everyone else is cutting, so if we don't cut the dollar continues to get stronger, which will move us eve further from the targeted inflation rate and give international competitors pricing advantages in trade to sell their goods.

>>14987708
u should start poasting ur entries and stuff again, I really liked that. I'm going to start daytradies again, I've been too busy the last month and a half to knock any out
>>14987731
I wonder what % of smg had inappropriate experiences at a young age. Probably higher than normal :(

So what do /smg/ regulars do to make money when the SM is closed? Are there other ways I can get into the hustle on other exchanges or other methods?

>>14988028
Do you have a job

>>14988028
I considered giving blowjobs on the street corner after midnight. Could be making an extra G but it turns out I'm allergic to semen and also I'm not gay.

>>14988028
that photo has a few weeks

>>14988039
Yes. I work a regular desk job Mon-Fri.
>>14988069
Same.
>>14988070
Sorry I updated with something else.

But seriously is there a side hustle for experienced traders off regular market hours? Like trading stuff on international markets or something else?

>>14988097
do you use a pony-tail ?

>>14988097
>not using https on 4chan
bro

>>14988097
Forex

Or crypto if you have balls

>>14988097
Crypto

Or forex if you have balls

>>14987062
So divvyfren you don’t own any shares of F?

>>14988097
>Not watching danberu on the stairmaster at the gym
NGMI, it's literally what I'm about to do
>I hope the normies don't think I'm a pervert, but I get the feeling they already do. I can't help but glance when objects move in the periphery of my vision!

>>14987821
>boomer's retirements
SEE PIC RELATED

>>14987781
Mostly bluechips, some insane growth companies as well (TTD), off the top of my head...
>2x(DIS+MCD), PEP, AAPL, AMZN, JNJ, COST, MRK, LMT, MA, NVDA, AMD, PG
Who am I forgetting?

>inb4 just get an index fund
true, and I'll be missing out on all the gains I don't see coming, but I'll also be avoiding the collapse of companies that fail to change with the times. KHC comes to mind.

>>14987821
>they’re propping it up
>they’re protecting it
>they’re pumping it
Brainlet here. How exactly do they do this?

Any advice on mining/oil stocks? Is anyone following the developments with NAK and if there is going to be solution for their EPA issue?

>>14988545
KHC took specific and careful steps to depress their stock valuation as much as possible, while keeping their core business impossibly strong.
They had some random accountants that they found on the street to forge lower earnings and higher acquisition costs, just so that they could admit fraud to the SEC and shake out even more weak hands

The truth is, they're sitting on a treasure trove of extremely powerful and valuable food products. They subbed in a new CEO and gave him a fresh slate by basically churning up and acknowledging all the bad news at the beginning of the year.

I shouldn't be sharing this information publicly, but you only live once. KHC is sitting on the most powerful meat replacement yet. People have forgotten that KHC is the most advanced food processing company in the world. They have LMT skunk-works levels of food processing stealth technology that most people can't even imagine. Their fake meat product won't hit shelves until 2020, it might not even be announced until then. But no one knows when the announcement will be. Just be careful and don't be too greedy with your entry timing, because this stock is about to go nuts

>>14988553
Just buy shit with magic money
Google quantitative easing and read about, anyone who exists in the economy should have a rough idea of what it is, because it effects everyone

Had, iirc, several buy orders. Stock was under said price but purchase never happened. That normal on robinhood?

Guys! Supreme court made a ruling today allowing The Donald to use up to 2.5 billy pentagon funds for The Wall. Long steel!

https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2019-07-26/supreme-court-trump-in-border-wall-funding-dispute

>>14988632
Who hired you to lie like this?
Was it the rat?

Bought FNGU a month ago

Bough small caps yesterday time for them to catch up, based FNGU shrugged off the netflix and tesla gap downs like it was nothing

>>14988669
What was the spread

>>14988685
I only lie to women

is it possible to fake a yield curve inversion? Hypothetically say the jews control it and want Drumpf out of office so are trying to make it look like he's causing a recession.
just ignore it if you think the motives are dumb, but with all the resources the Fed has ($10 trillion in assets or whatever), would they have the ability to pull it off? or would it be too obvious.

>>14988685
nobody could predict that khc crash... a warren buffet owned and directed company that cut the dividend and did balance sheet fraud was definitely not expected

>>14988753
Yusss the FNGU Dream starts again

What happens to a put when the market price falls to zero?

>>14988955
Doesn't matter because we'll all be hoarding potable water, ammunition, and seeds for planting crops.

>>14988894

>>14988955
If you meant the underlying of a company and not the entire market, then see:

>If you own put options on stocks of a company that has just declared or filed for bankruptcy, you are in for your maximum potential reward. Whoever sold you that right to sell shares of that company at that higher price is obliged to fulfill that obligation, so your profit is guaranteed.

>>14988753
that's pretty neat etf

>>14988894
While that's very true, I'm not optimistic about them because of their product line. If they had the fraud and dividend cut, but also had doritos and gatorate, I'd say buy the hell out of the dip and hold it for a decade. However, I'm not that excited about oscar meyer and lunchables.

Fucking CornNuts? I can't imagine anyone choosing that as the snack that they most want at the grocery store. That is a snack of last resort.

>>14985820
Rsi is not good for judging "overbought" it can be all the way at the top and continue running for quite a while, wrecking shorts, except on monthly. It can also continue to crash if RSI hits below 20, or 10, or bounces off 0. It's better for judging divergence as an oscillator.

>>14988670
Ffffffuck fuck fuck I just realized... he's diverting military funds...

Is this why Lockheed was dipping today?

>>14989364
Oh... or maybe it has something to do with recent insider selling, like 7.2 mil from the CEO

>>14987980
Inflation is simply an increase in the price level resulting from an increase in the money supply. It doesn't have to "trickle down" to the consumer and CPI to be present. In fact, it starts at the stage closest to the Federal Reserve, the stock market, and gradually travels outwards.

By the time we see an increase in CPI, which may take years as the full extent of the new money radiates out from the banks and securities markets, it's too late. Omae wa mou shinderu. The stock market has already become artificially, unsustainably inflated thanks to free money, with people buying not on the expectation of increased economic value, but of more capital demand and accumulation thanks to continued, artificially low interest rates. It merely becomes undeniably apparent - and alarming - when the print-it-all gibsmedat clusterfuck spills over into the average person's life.

We are already in the late stage of a bubble. The longer the Federal Reserve refuses to enforce financial discipline, the worse the correction will be. I would gradually divest stocks and shift to a cash-oriented portfolio, conservatively hedging for inflation risk, in anticipation of a correction.

>>14989049
nah the brands are fine,, they have like lots of duopolys and dominant marketshares.
like for example, The pickle duopoly. They own claussen and the only other real seller is vlasic. So if you own KHC and CAG you basically own the whole marketshare of pickles
(and steaksauce, gravy, and relish/ketchup)

>>14988792
Not sure what spread means. Heck I had several orders close but one is still open even though its now past the after hours time.

>>14989578
bullish on the pickle market then?
I expect pickle market growth to slow in the near future.

>>14989424
What do you mean by a cash oriented portfolio?

>>14989589
Ok so you are going to want to understand what the stock market actually is.
It's a place to buy and sell things. The stock 'price' that you see listed at any time in a brokerage interface is just a number (possibly rounded) in between the lowest ask and highest bid price
Depending on how tight/loose the order book is, these prices can be close or far away. Basically on low volume wide spread assets you end up paying the spread as an extra cost to buy into and then sell out of a position .
Like if you see a stock called BWL.A with a listed price of $10. But the sellers are sitting there waiting with $11 limits and the buyers all have limit orders at $9.
Now let's say you go ahead and put a market buy order, buy it, then change your mind and market sell out. Then you end up with -$2, because you started with $11, bought a share, and sold for $9.
This example is somewhat idealized, you usually won't get spread apart that badly on most orders.
I would suggest using a search engine like Google to find articles and videos that discuss market mechanics and order books. You could spend years studying the complex stuff, but you should be able to get a good foundational understanding in an hour or so of study and prayer

>>14989810
Oh I used a limit buy order. So basically, if I put a limit buy order at $10. Stock is priced at $10 as well. But the sellers are only offering it for $11 while the majority want to buy it at $9, THEN the price listed will be $10. Am I correct in understanding that?

>>14989842
>>14989842
If you put a limit order at $10, and no one puts in any sells at $10 or below, then nothing happens
Technically at that point the mark price would move from $10 to $10.50, because you are now the highest bid, and the asks are still $11.
What happens in real life is more complex. Really it's not just one book, there are sort of a network of different books, some public some private, some big and some small.
And there are little ghosts in the big machine, algorithms and some traders snooping around and making or cancelling their own orders based just on what they see in the books.
There are reasons for that, etc. It can get to be a complicated discussion. But you should understand an idealized order book. And you should understand how a spread interacts with the profits made in a round trip buy/sell, whether a limit or market order.
Then you need to understand short term vs long term cap gains tax, and how it effects your investing
Then you keep learning...

>>14989719
oh my god I mean theres like 4% pickle growth yoy expected for the next decade I dont rememeber. Im not a memory machine or anything

>>14989810
whoa you dont have to reveal all the secrets there

>>14988024
Now that breaking out professionally trader.... it just no kosher for talk about trades and stuff specific like that

It tempts mammon too much
Best can do am AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA post when green bean and KHC dead

>>14988632
Me wish was real @_@
But if you just look at the statistics, canned food, easy to make food, processed food all in decline

Many many KHCs staples peaked early 90s and never recovered
Your devaluation theory just nonsense, they took massive massive blow, their price lower than Kraft price adjusted for inflation

>>14989993
No. I need to hear about how easy it is to short the GBP with new Boris

>>14989787
Cash is an asset like anything else. It increases in value as securities decrease in value. It should be considered a part of your portfolio, and given the current market conditions, gradually come to compose a significant portion, if not a majority, of your portfolio, in anticipation of the inevitable correction given the Fed's monetary mismanagement. However, because of the risk of uncontrolled inflation before the ultimate correction, I would recommend purchasing hedges to preserve the value of your portfolio until that point.

>>14990077
>he doesn't know about the returns of cash vs. inversion bonds and inversion stocks
First time here?

>>14990059
You didn't read my post
Or you didn't understand

Most processed food is unfashionable right now, this is the "Chipotle era" where everyone wants "natural" ingredients
But there is a certain kind of processed food that is very hot, super hot, that turned a little pea-processing operation in a warehouse into a 14 billion dollar company in the span of about 3 months.

Waiting in the wings is the emperor, the juggernaut of processed foods. He has been forgotten and downtrodden while the markets say " no one wants processed food" while at the exact same time, turning a processed food company into the hottest IPO anyone has seen in some time.

Let me know if I'm getting through here.
I can't put in any real proof that the targeted devaluation was timed and coordinated or that the family of products I'm mentioning even exists
So believe what you like

>>14989861
Pickle market am growing which cool
People starting for realize you can pickle more than just cucumber

Wish could invest in Japanese pickle market
They one biggest pickler in worla
Pickled eggplant especially good @_@

>>14985696
I'm getting out guys. I don't know if this is the right thread but i didn't see a /recession/ general.
>DJIA peaks at over 27,300
>Longest period of economic growth in american history
>Just over 10 years since the last recession
>unemployment low as fuck
None of this is suspicious at all
>FED still hasn't raised interest rates to a safe level (>5%? I guess?) and is actually talking about cutting rates again in order to CAUSE inflation
>Silver and gold up a not-insubstantial amount
>Bond inversion
My shitty MS paint explains it but the way I see it I've got what, a 5% upside before the next one? On my 50k in investments thats only 2.5k or so if i keep investing conservatively like I have been. S&P dropped 55% last recession. Does it make sense to get out soon or what? Are you guys seeing this or am I crazy?

>>14988028
My weekly job is a state worker. For 8 hrs a day mon - fri I work for the state. I got in when working for the state still had value v.s private sector. So under the regs at my hiring date (still in effect btw for me and all those before 2007) I put in 27 yrs service. I retire w/full pension + 401k/medical.

For me this means I'll be 50 years old and "fully retired". Even better is that my vacation time, whatever I got left, they pay me for when I retire. My unused sick time can be used towards my retirement as well. So right now if I was to retire I could knock off 6 months of time I gotta put in thanks to my sick time yet still "fully" retire.

>>14990190
Don't know what some of your stuff means. But I do know there's been quite some time since the last recession which has made me uneasy in buying stock at the moment. I don't believe the supposed unemployment rate. I think its higher than the government claims it to be.

Personally I now suspect a depression rather than recession.

Market at all time highs right before trade talks with China set to resume... hmmmm...

Seems pretty weaponized, ready for big demands, and then storming away when demands not met. This will cool markets, and avoid the massive rapid-pump that would cause people to freak and pull out their money to cause crash.

>>14986568
T?

>>14990145
I believe. People deride Kraft-Heinz foolishly. Just look at the name. Kraft? Kraft singles? Kraft macaroni and cheese? If you're going to eat macaroni and cheese, would you settle for less? Heinz? Ever heard of a little something called HEINZ KETCHUP? If you go to Costco looking for condiments, what do you see? Heinz picnic pack, that's what. Pic related.

>>14989049
You have no idea what you're talking about. KHC owns a roster of all-star brands.
https://www.kraftheinzcompany.com/brands.html

>>14990345
None of their current brands are too important. They're priced in, as is their debt

There is more going on with KHC than has been announced to the public.
But the important thing that everyone should be aware of is the BYND price movement and what it means for processed foods.
Processed foods have been 100% FUD for the last five years, maybe the last decade. But now in 2019 we see the reversal with the BYND IPO and how much money they raised.
The key thing to take away is, people will go nuts for processed food and buy it at marked up prices if you tell them that it's good for animals. And they'll buy the stocks of the companies even more.
The BYND pump portends a massive upside for processed food companies, if they properly align their R&D and production efforts to take advantage of it. Some already are very close.
But the market at large HAS NOT priced this in yet. Because of their size (on the production and distribution sides) KHC and a few other companies are perfectly placed to take over and dominate the fake meat market. It's just processed vegetables.
Right now the BYND market cap is 14 billion for selling a couple million veggie burgers and the KHC market cap is 38 Billion for selling various other processed foods in MASSIVE amounts. The only difference is branding. KHC won't be launching their new fake meat products under the Boca brand, I can at least tell you that much.
Get in before the market puts two and two together, before the rumours about these new products start to surface
(And before I finish writing my article and publish it ;^)

>>14990308
I think you're just going to have to google some of this shit
>I don't believe the supposed unemployment rate. I think its higher than the government claims it to be.
I suspect the jobs being added to the economy every month are mostly just-above-minimum no benefit part-time positions that'll evaporate at the first sign of trouble. It seems like a lot of people are working more than one so everyone that wants a job has one but they're not necessarily good jobs

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/1-says-e-cigarettes-smoke-192510216.html

BIG GOVERNMENT WONT KEEP ITS HANDS OFF MY STONKS

Trump is fuckkng with drug companies, and his FDA is fucking with MO. Biden’s down with healthcare though, and his justice reform bill wants to decriminilize cannabis.

I think it’s time we become Biden Boys, and go all in UNH and CGC.

hehehe
know that know NYN little sister can post in /jp/ w/o being told go away

mwhahahaa going to eric post them

LCI STATUS UPDATE
ARE WE FUCKED YET BOYS?

>>14990670
For ethical reasons, I don't deal in government bonds. You're buying the rope they'll use to hang you.

Any MAXR supporters here? We going to the moon soon?

>>14990469
Yeah I've heard a lot about jobs being added and then the newspapers show a lot of low paying jobs eg fast food and warehouse.

>>14990789
No. It's a solid company that got loads of left-wing media horseshit thrown at it by being tangentially involved in the 'opioid crisis' litigation. All but two of these companies have never even marketed opioids to prescribers, so I fail to see how they will be held 'liable' in a court of law. Or how that 'liability' could be significant if found. Or how it would lastingly disable their enormous operations and large concentrations of intellectual capital if imposed. It's a nothingburger in my highly speculative opinion.

>>14989859

The simplified version of that is current share price is just the most recent price a trade went through for.

>>14990180
Yeah just be careful cause it burns your teeth

>>14990883
'no'
Many times the noted brokerage price will be the mark price, NOT the last price
Of course it depends on your broker and your settings

What do anons think about the Sprint-T-mobile merger? I'm in T and VZ so it's all green so far.

As a consumer, I almost think 3 strong competitors is better than 2 strong and 2 weak, but the media coverage seems to indicate the opposite. It's easier to understand as a shareholder that they're all just going to jew the customer as hard as they can. Still a more ethical way to make money than selling drugs, fossil fuels, or personal data.

>>14990142
Those aren't something you can hold long term. It's not good to time the market either. After withdrawing or while seeking to enter an inflated market, you have to wait until inflated stocks have been evidently and significantly devalued before you can push your cash into such equities, at a large scale, for secure and significant long-term gain.

The utility of this strategy just depends on your risk tolerance and time, I guess.

>>14990793
Relevant of what?

>>14990190
Idk. I'm young and have a healthy risk appetite, so I'm staying in until the bleeding starts. I'm just trying to be smart about it. I'm in US telecoms and MSFT, which I think are pretty insulated from Europe's shitty economy, China's debt bubble, and Trump's trade shenanigans. If I still get creamed by beta so be it, but I think we have a few more years of crab economy to go.

>>14990883
Actually I checked some other resources and apparently most brokers show last price by default for most assets classes. So you were mostly correct last price is the quoted price in most cases and the mark/mid price is shown as the quoted price less frequently

From this point on..... only strong hands allowed in LCI... weak hands get out!!! We're going to $60 and we can't have any of you sissy lalas trying to catch ride to the moon

>>14986282
NOK really needs to get a little higher before I think about selling. I kinda like having it, In all honesty I only made 106$ this week. Guess I'll try DCA a little more aggressively.

>>14987781
big names in the s&p 500 that aren't going anywhere anytime soon. Must pay a dividend.

I think anything phone related will be my biggest holding... as well as waste management.. People will pay their phone bill before they pay their rent and people will be making trash for a long time...

>>14991505
I should get some LCl maybe. Right now all my shares are in SNSS and PES

>>14991572
Do whatever you feel comfortable with.. if you do your research on LCI you'll see that it has a strong future and that it is heavily shorted... I hope we all make it.. except for that 18 year old body builder and comfy... those 2 are the most negative humans.. they will only have bad juju come to them.. sad really...

https://www.wsj.com/articles/a-princes-500-billion-desert-dream-flying-cars-robot-dinosaurs-and-a-giant-artificial-moon-11564097568

Saudi Arabia's Crown Prince MbS wants to build a fully automated city, complete with robot maids and robot martial artists.
So go long robotics, I guess. There were rumors about the Saudis buying into Ethereum, I wonder if that will happen or not

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwj-CCDHRgs

Ford under $9 would be so tasty. Are we gonna get there?

>>14991814
Only if it’s on the way to asymptotic zero

>>14991590
I'm short MbS and long Yemeni hill peasants, so I'll pass.

what is the reason for not owning VTSAX, SSO, and QLD

i cant think of any...?

How does one trade for oneself? Looks like I'm going to be unemployed for a while.

>buy shitload of BYND
>issue stop-loss at just below the price you bought it at
What's wrong with this plan?
There's literally zero risk.

>>14992166
that's brilliant
but why only BYND, wouldn't it work with any stock?

>>14992166

That's fine for a day trade. The risk is gap down open if you hold over night.

>>14991541
You think nokia is reaching its top?

>>14992221
Should also mention there is a secondary risk; halt due to late financials, bad news or SEC investigation. In that case you're stuck holding the bag until halt is lifted, hours, day or weeks later, at which point it will typically gap down open by a large margin.

>>14992260
>>14992221

I think you're still a little bit off

What if I told you that the strategy wouldn't work and has negative expected value, even if we can guarantee that there are no trading halts OR gaps (IE, the market is always open and moving)?
assuming we talk about any arbitrary basket of stocks and apply the 'buy and set an arbitrarily tight stop-loss', the strategies will still come out negative (vs a tax-intelligent buy and hold) for the majority of runs

If you want a market that never closes, you could implement the strategy with bitcoin and see how far it gets you. Just decide how tight your SL will be in %, buy in, and start running the strategy.
You have to decide what to do about repetitions. IE, if you stop out, do you sit in cash forever or do you buy back in immediately or after some delay.

>>14992298
maybe I'm wrong though and there really is a very simple positive expected value strategy that just relies on 'really tight stop loss'
but I think that even if we pretend taxes and spreads don't exist, the best you can do is equal a strategy that holds the same underlying and doesn't set the tight stop loss.

How can I be based like this?

>>14985696
According to GDP data released today Q2 corporate earning posted their largest annual decline in several years, and the revised data shows that there has been no growth in operating profits for the past 5 years, despite S&P being up 50%+

>>14992360
I think the anon's intent was specific to chasing a parabolic stock with reduced risk. Buy and hold in this case is suicide and breaks the cardinal trading rule of do not fomo in to something that is already running way too hot.

For day and swing trading, the practice of moving your stop up to break even price once the share price has advanced sufficiently to make it reasonable within expected price oscillation inside current trend range is common.

> The experience of the Great Recession and its aftermath revealed that a lower bound on interest rates can be a serious obstacle for fighting recessions.
> However, the zero lower bound is not a law of nature; it is a policy choice.

> ..with readily available tools a central bank can enable deep negative rates whenever needed—thus maintaining the power of monetary policy in the future to end recessions within a short time.
> ..a subset of these tools can have a big effect in enabling deep negative rates with administratively small actions on the part of the central bank.

>.. a subset of these approaches allows enabling negative rates while remaining at a minimum distance from the current paper currency policy and minimizing the political costs;
>.. standard transmission mechanisms from interest rates to aggregate demand are likely to remain unchanged in deep negative rate territory;
>.. present communication tools that central banks can use both now and in the event to facilitate broader political acceptance of negative interest rate policy at the onset of the next serious recession.

https://www.imf.org/en/Publications/WP/Issues/2019/04/29/Enabling-Deep-Negative-Rates-A-Guide-46598

robbery

>>14992535
how tight to make the stop?
where to enter?
where to re-enter?

you have to answer those questions right to make a profit, even if you guess right on intra-day direction. otherwise you could bounce down and stop out enough times to kill the trade even if you do make some upswing profits.
I think in almost all cases the expected value is negative, especially for a random son-of-a-bitch like BYND right now

and I don't think that the original post said anything about moving the stop.
Even if you can move the stop, I think the EV will still be negative unless you add in a more comprehensive strategy. BYND is too bouncy up-and-down intraday to have a "simple" strategy result in a positive EV

just my own opinion though, I am not an expert ;^)

>>14992627
wait none of the stuff in your post is new, this is just the IMF writing a summary piece on actions taken a decade ago by the FED and ECB

also no one cares about actual IMF policy in developed nations lol

no matter what, as long as ECB and BOJ are going way harder on neggyInt and QE compared to us (our guy Jeromium at the fed), then it's all gravy. right?

>>14992702
Paper goes through tools required to achieve negative 10% interest rates, and no, US is not isolated from other economies so the impact will spread.

>>14992750
>negative 10%

whaddafuck
Christ our lord in Heaven
I want to speak with Jerome about this
I can't even imagine a world with neggy 1%, neggy 10% is wild
I might actually read the paper
why even stop at 10%? seems arbitrary. Why not go to 11%? 24% lol
everyone knows what kind of people end up at the IMF

when I talk about EU and Japan, I mean it in the sense that at least we can watch them go ahead of us in terms of QE and neggy interest rates.
I do agree in the concept of systemic risk, IE if we make a bubble together, then it will pop everywhere. If we make the bubble really, really big, then the pop will be really, really big.

I do kind of want to see a country hit -10% interest rates just to see it happen, though.
we should buy some minor Polynesian island or African country to try these things and see what happens ;)

>>14992449
What does it mean anon? I already get the feeling a crash is imminent from that info

>at pool hall
>2 10/10 walk in
>sexy as fuck!!!
>yoga pants
>beautiful as fuck
>bending over showing their extreme curves
>hour glass figures
>one blonde one brunette
>holy fuck mind is racing
>pool hall employee puts an by me and my buddy because I always tell him to put hot girls by my table
>get to talking to them
>trying to play it smooth

They're dykes

:/

>>14992833
If this really happened:
Lol thats code for “youre too ugly for one of us let alone both of us” xD

Oh LCIguy, you crack me up

>>14992883
Na bro.. they're dykes.. I'm still gunna try and get at an tho:)

>>14992833

hangin out at the pool hall like it's 1960 or something
I dig that
reminds me of back about 12 years ago when I was in high school
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmgDKzN4-N4

g l with the lebbos

>>14992997
It's coming back big time man... not even joking I've been playing for years and more and more people have been coming to play..... a lot of girls too... no lie... like a lot...

>>14993189
I'm garbage at pool but I'll have to check out the local scene

I could fit a pool table or two in my house
maybe one would be in the basement, but still

I'll keep an eye on craigslist and see if anyone is giving a table away for cheap
it's funny how much of the physics work I do can be analogized with pool (Europes might call it Billiards)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qqXqn2940w

LCI to 8! corner pocket!

In Denmark, you can literally take out a mortgage loan at a negative interest.

The F5 loan has an interest of NEGATIVE 0.36%

This sounds great and all until you remind yourself that this makes the housing market prices explode.

The cheaper you can take out loans, the bigger the loan you're allowed to take out, the higher the property valuations become.

At this rate, I'm never going to buy my own place.

>>14993280
are you in Denmark?
do you have any example of housing prices going nutty (throughout the whole country) in the past year?

are you a sick nutty midlaner (a la Bjergsen, Jensen, caps, Frogen, etc.)?

>>14993225
Dude... I'm telling you.. a lot of chicks play... one time I was playing and a chick came up to me and said "shots like that make me wet" no fucking lie!!

Do any of you live in Chicago and wanna meet up? I'm going out there for a couple weeks

>>14993533
im out in the western suburbs (Lisle, near the Ultapro HQ where QQQ is made)
where you gonna be at
Chicago area is huge

>>14993280
would you recommend some seminal work on negative interest rates?

>>14989049
Corn Nuts are fucking delicious how dare you

>>14992813
It means the crash already happened like i told you guys.

>>14993280
I have failed you Jeff
I still do barbell rows
;_;

>>14993941
Are they really? Even if they had like, cool ranch corn nuts like cool ranch Doritos, I’d rather have chips.

I seriously don’t understand why anyone would pick corn nuts.

>>14994089
When did you tell me, and can you prove it’s true?

>>14992500
Seems like debt is a pretty useless metric if you don’t include the amount these companies have on hand. If they have debt, and could pay it off, but choose not to, seems like they’re just being cautious and exploiting low interest rates. Could be wise depending on roe.

>>14994222
>barbell rows
how much weight
what are your other mainline stats (press, bechy, squaty, deady)
x10 etc, I don't care about 1rm because to me reps are the truth and 1rm is the lies
(full disclosure I'm not strong, I want to know your lifts so I can set a target to beat them)

>>14994222
just deadlift you little bitch and toss your barbell row into trash can

>>14994222
>When did you tell me, and can you prove it’s true?

You cant really tell you are in a recession till it is over. We are finally recovering, zoom out of charts and it becomes obvious

>>14993533
I’ll be back in a few days, been on vacation. I live in Hyde Park, so the meetup would have to be during daylight hours.

>>14986568
consolidated edison if you want a utility company

>>14992232
Here's some cold hard TA for you. I think there's a 25% chance NOK will have a high of 5.88, a 50% chance that it'll reach 5.77 and a 75% chance it'll go to 5.71 next week. So if you're investing in this stock, you'll have a 25% chance to go up 4% if you fomo at it's closing or anything below that value next week (preferably in the first two days of the week or so). But I don't recommend doing this, always initially invest 2% of your current buying power in a stock. Then DCA at some rate you think is good if it goes down.

I'm not good a speculating, I just look at boring charts and go from there. So my apologies if that was a little unexciting. Trying to up my game in speculating and belief in things other than price performance.

>>14991505
Converting my IRA to 100% LCI soon.

>>14990077
Brainlet here. Why have any more cash than you need? You might as well put it into bonds or CDs that guarantee at least some return even if the market goes down, right? Then buy cheap stock's after they mature and the stock market is down?

Please explain why I am retarded

>>14994387
That's pretty silly advice. Rowing exercises train different movements and muscles from deadlifts.

>>14992833
most so-called lesbians have sex with men btw. 80% claim to have had sex with a man and 22% claim to have had sex with a man in the last year. Keep in mind the real % will be higher since, well, you know

>>14990190
people have been thinking the same thing since 2012. hasn't worked out for them. no one can time the market perfectly, so getting in and out in a binary fashion is foolish. you should have a mix of assets and rebalance at set intervals (either time or price), based on your risk own tolerance.

>>14994894
That's because lesbianism is just a manifestation of general degeneracy. They are allowed to do ridiculous things like homosexual acts to make their overall depravity more evident. The root cause is that people do not have the fear of God.

>Wherefore God gave them up to the desires of their heart, unto uncleanness, to dishonour their own bodies among themselves.
>Who changed the truth of God into a lie; and worshipped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
>For this cause God delivered them up to shameful affections. For their women have changed the natural use into that use which is against nature.
>And, in like manner, the men also, leaving the natural use of the women, have burned in their lusts one towards another, men with men working that which is filthy, and receiving in themselves the recompense which was due to their error.
>And as they liked not to have God in their knowledge, God delivered them up to a reprobate sense, to do those things which are not convenient;

> Unironically shilling for Jewish religion that helped to bring Rome down

pol pls

>>14994956
gtfo christcuck

>>14994894
An absence of God in our souls leaves a vacuum that will suck in anything and everything. But because only God is infinite being, finite created things can never fill it. Finding that transient pleasures fail to satisfy our lust, we sink to greater and greater depths of depravity, not knowing that these pleasures can never really satisfy us. This is suffering.

A merger between LSC Communicaitons and Quad Graphics got blocked by the Department of Justice and LKSD and the stock price dropped like a rock to $1.39. Since LSC provides a unique and indispensable service: their stock price will bounce back and actually rise for the first time in their existence as a publicly traded company.

>>14994768
If you're buying stock in individual companies, this is less a concern IMO. Is the current price of the stock justified relative to the current fundamentals and future prospects? If so, then why worry about whethet the S&P 500 or some other company is "overvalued"?

Does anyone know how I can dig up info on a 'secretive' hedge fund? If you know, let me know.

>>14995452
if it takes public money, like you would anything else. If it only takes private money, some social engineering and a few phone calls might give you some information, otherwise you'd be looking through news archives for info

>>14995464
I tried looking them up on the SEC website, fintel.io, FINRA brokers list etc and it returned nothing. They are supposed to be really, really good though.

heatwave is upon the world! xD cold beer and fishing on a serene fresh water lake so be it. try getting some yuuuuuge fish

What is the meaning of this?