/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>14963961
Something is seriously wrong with Nano. A project filled with Jewish grifters, Italian scammers, openly Satanists and lying atheist devs (7000 TPS - reality 240 TPS). Combo from hell.

>>14963961
Accumulating Nano has been pretty much like pic related since Jan. 2018. Close association with Satan and Satanists has clearly not worked well for Nano.

>>14963961
>>14964732
>>14965575
>mom, i'm posting it again

>>14965575
Because there are still holders from the raiblock days with bags hundreds of thousands of dollars worth deep. Stay for away from nano for at least 5 years.

Check out Stellar Lumens instead.

>>14965781
Devs and their friends managed to get millions of Nanos out of BitGrail before it collapsed, pic. They are still dumping.

Pamp it

According to Weiss Crypto Ratings, Nano is a total shitcoin.

>>14966158
Are you RockmSockmjesus, the Nano community manager, or just a regular satanist Nano fan? Just when you thought Nano couldn't get any worse, pic related, they dump this on you...

Fuck NANO

nano getting ready for its epic pump stage 2. Starting to see it in the top 5 gainers quite often since its last bottom. chart is now bullish ALL IN WOOHOO

>>14966507
>nano getting ready for its epic pump stage 2. Starting to see it in the top 5 gainers quite often since its last bottom. chart is now bullish ALL IN WOOHOO
Nano is Bitconnect 2.0 Your comment and pic related.

>>14963961
>>14964732
>>14965575
>>14966041
If anything you make Nano look like a better investment with your incessant sperging.

>>14966669
The saddest cuck on biz everyone

>>14966734
>If anything you make Nano look like a better investment with your incessant sperging.
You have never met a professional investors in your whole life, ryte? Time for you nanoid idiots to buy some more, pic related.

> still buying nano instead of pnk in 2019

>>14966780
>The saddest cuck on biz everyone
That would be the typical nanoids presenting insane and outlandish rumours as tactical investment data, pic related.

>>14966780
Here is one more from you nano idiots.

>>14966810
>>14966823
sorry that you take investment advice from frogs on an internet chat image board site on the world wide web. I can't save you from yourself

>>14966780
>The saddest cuck on biz everyone
Getting cucked in orgies and homosexual anal sex is a big part in virtually all occult worship. Clearly being a total cuck is an integrated part in your Nano devil worship. Just go and ask your Nano community manager RockmSockmjesu

>>14966854
Only a retarded satanist/nano investor would seriously believe a nano critics saves those comments because he really believed the usual deceitful nano garbage. Here, another sick and crazy nano rumour, pic.

>>14966866
>>14966886
>attacks people and not the tech
your desperation is showing again

>>14963961

Kek. Nano is pumping.

>>14967078
Please learn the difference between fluctuation and pumping.

>>14967001
>attacks people and not the tech
>your desperation is showing again
OK, here you go:
Nano is a crashed coin with a broken system. The very basis for Nano network is that people will run the whole system for free, for all eternity, all the time, with no downtime, or the Nano network will crash. Can any of you nanoids guarantee that? The integrity of your network is solely based upon people that will work for maybe thousands of hours for free and pay tens of millions in costs for nodes, bandwith for free, for all eternity? How insane, delusional and away from real life is that?

>>14967001
1. For a global currency with micro-payments, 100 000 TPS is the very bare minimum. What's Nano's current TPS? You claimed 7 000 TPS in DEC 2017. Pic.
2. What is the total costs of Nano network with 100 000 TPS, that you believe people will do for free for no reason. How many tens of millions?

>>14967105
>17 days ago
still desperate bruh.
dis organick

>>14967120
>The very basis for Nano network is that people will run the whole system for free, for all eternity, all the time, with no downtime, or the Nano network will crash. Can any of you nanoids guarantee that?
I can say that it's in the best interest of someone to run a node at all times, yea

> pay tens of millions in costs for nodes
lol get real

>How insane, delusional and away from real life is that?
only as insane as your qualifiers to your shit argument.


>>14967136
> 100 000 TPS is the very bare minimum
do you have a figure on that?
Nano doesn't have to start and do 0 to 100000 overnight. It will progress much slower as the network gets more robust, and improvements are made to combat ledger bloat.

>You claimed 7 000 TPS in DEC 2017.
I did not

>you believe people will do for free for no reason
but they do have reason to, if they hold some of the coins they have an indirect incentive to make sure the network is stable.

>How many tens of millions?
not even, get out with that bullshit. running a node isnt like competing in Bitcoin for most hashrate.

>>14967195
>I can say that it's in the best interest of someone to run a node at all times, yea
>but they do have reason to, if they hold some of the coins they have an indirect incentive to make sure the network is stable.
Best interest for someone to clean public toilets for free all the time as well. Does that economic model function really well? Nano's economic model is absurd.
> pay tens of millions in costs for nodes
>lol get real
>not even, get out with that bullshit. running a node isnt like competing in Bitcoin for most hashrate.
OK, show me yours and Nano foundation's cost analysis for CPU, IO and bandwith at 100 000 TPS, the bare minimum for a global currency providing microtransactions.
>Nano doesn't have to start and do 0 to 100000 overnight. It will progress much slower as the network gets more robust, and improvements are made to combat ledger bloat.
Competitors are shortly able to provide 100K transactions. Ethereum devs are working on millions of TPS and are most likely only between 12 and 24 months away. Nano will no way in hell have 100K TPS within that time.
>You claimed 7 000 TPS in DEC 2017.
>I did not
I didn't talk about you personally. Pic related.

>>14963961
>I am gay ID
go back to /tttt/ faggot

>>14967289
>Best interest for someone to clean public toilets for free all the time as well.
non sequitur
>Does that economic model function really well? Nano's economic model is absurd.
it does function well, sorry it seems so absurd to you.
>OK, show me yours and Nano foundation's cost analysis for CPU, IO and bandwith at 100 000 TPS, the bare minimum for a global currency providing microtransactions.
You still don't get it, Nano doesn't need to do that overnight. Also why did you pull 100k TPS out of your ass? take it a step at a time and enjoy the ride. Nano is also more than microtransactions, and NF hasn't even started to look at second layer options if they even feel the need for it.
>Competitors are shortly able to provide 100K transactions.
If they can do it without breaking the system, while still being decentralized that's awesome, ill buy some. until then you should sit back and watch the progress fren

>>14967445
>non sequitur
OK, when has the economic model where the majority use a service provided by a minority for free ever functioned medium or long term? After the price of Nano stabilizes and there is no more potential speculative reason for a holder to run an expensive nano node, why would this model function? Do you have ANY empirical data where a similar model functioned, ever?
>it does function well, sorry it seems so absurd to you.
As an amateur model and kitchen table project among friends and enthusiasts with a network not used at all. Not the same as a global currency handling microtransactions for a couple of billion people, is it?
>Also why did you pull 100k TPS out of your ass?
VISA, not aimed at micro transactions and banking the unbanked, are calibrated to handle 60 000 TPS.
>You still don't get it, Nano doesn't need to do that overnight.
I never said that. I gave you estimates for your competitors. Nano has no chance to compete with them. Add ZuckBucks into the mix and Nano is doomed.
>until then you should sit back and watch the progress fren
For a short time sail ships were better than engine driven ships in every way. Speed, costs etc. That didn't last very long and ought to be obvious for everyone with a minimal of analytical skills. Same with Nano. That the community operates like a (satan worshiping) death cult with open satanists >>14954173 and community leaders named RockmSockmjesus, does not bode well for Nano.

>>14967725
>OK, when has the economic model where the majority use a service provided by a minority for free ever functioned medium or long term?
i cant think of one offhand, but that doesn't in itself mean it cannot work.
>with a network not used at all.
it is being used. more and more each week. bitcoin in 2013 was barely used also, and it his its ceiling. Nano has a much higher ceiling and still has some scalability improvements on the way.
>a global currency handling microtransactions for a couple of billion people, is it?
For investors who get in now, Nano doesn't have to become the only globally used cryptocurrency. If it gets a small amount of users, globally speaking, then Nanoids will bank.
>VISA, not aimed at micro transactions and banking the unbanked, are calibrated to handle 60 000 TPS
sure, but thats almost half of 100,000 TPS, and Visa's 60k TPS is really only a peak, non-sustainable figure. but i see your point, hardware does need to scale, but also see my above point.
>Add ZuckBucks into the mix
Those are centralized to shit, we both know this. we can limit our discussion to truly decentralized and immutable currencies.
>RockmSockmjesus
where did he touch you?

op is retarded
still not buying any nano

I am satanist and I buy nano. Will help build my latest sacrifice platform at the top of the next bullrun

>>14967947
>but that doesn't in itself mean it cannot work.
No, it does mean it cannot work. What would you say if I came to you with a business model where volunteers should clean our houses every single day for free? Would you invest any money in that business model?
>it is being used. more and more each week
Compared to the load on the network if a global currency with micropayments, this is absolutely nothing. To use current traffic as a benchmark is utterly ludicrous.
>only a peak, non-sustainable figure
VISA can sustain 60 000 TPS as long as they want. Nano would crash. Only a few months ago there was a small spam attack and Nano crashed. Less than 1000 TPS. It's a total joke, talking about Nano as a the future of interne payment.
>Those are centralized to shit,
Normies don't care. Ethereum will have an ecosystem, smart contracts etc that Zuckbucks will not. You are competing directly with Zuckbucks and will crash, even if your failed tech, failed business model with volunteers taking the all the network costs for nothing etc, worked, Zuckbucks will smash Nano. There is no future for Nano, at all
>RockmSockmjesus
For Nano foundation to use a guy like that as a community manager only further conveys, on top of Bitgrail, that they are either incompetent, evil or both.

>>14968006
>I am satanist and I buy nano
Nano is pretty much the ultimate crypto for Satanists, right? Why is that? Is it due to the satanic behaviour of the devs and team, plus hellish tech? See:

Dangerous flaws and major problems with Nano
http://archive.is/diUnZ

Nano Heading for Disaster – Dirty Deals with BitGrail
http://archive.is/GGWIG

Nano and Bitgrail leaders scammed over $100 million from Bitgrail
http://archive.is/zAtyl

>>14970333
poor nanofudder. you are so pathetic.
you have been posting the same pasta here for over a year now while nano makes great advancements. lol at you

>>14970333
go back to therapy

Lmao what is this thread. Just lmao.

Nano fudder - you should have bought by now you had plenty of time. You still have time before its $100

>>14967289
if you have a financial stake in the success of those public toilets then sure youd want to keep them clean.

boy did i fuck up selling early...

>>14970578
>>14970607
>>14970631
>nano makes great advancements
What "great advancements" would that be, Nanoid? Have you finally reached the 7000 TPS you and your devs lied about DEC 2017 and was the only reason why Nano mooned? No? You are still on a couple of hundred TPS while your competitors are working on 100K up to millions and will roll it out in a matter of months. You nano idiots are delusional. Small fluctuation from your total crash and you all start to ramble on about 1000 EOY? Pyscho morons, pic related.

>>14970794
When the market is saturated and there is no more potential upside in holding Nanos there is no incentive to run those nodes for free. The very fact that neither you, nor the Nano foundation, has done any cost analysis for a 100 000 TPS global network (CPU, IO and bandwith) only further displays how moronic both the nano team and nano investors are. Sorry.

>>14966669
CHECKED

>>14970885
lmao. nano is being used for point of sales systems, amongst others.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nanocurrency/comments/c233ve/kappture_using_nano_on_their_pos_system/

>>14970996
So how many million individual users do you have per month for your global currency,using your point of sales systems. What are the numbers?

>>14971086
the point is, nanofudder, you lost.
nano is being developed. it's the fastest crypto. it's feeless and companies build on it.

now fuck off

>>14971208
Nano is a kitchen table project by amateurs and fanatics. Colin was working part time, alone, on the project until the Italians scammers started to push XRB on you delusional idiots. Nano crashes constantly, are not being able to even go over a couple of hundred TPS per second, D grade shitcoin according to Weiss, not part of cryptos mentioned by ICE (Bakkt), not on Coinbase, insane cost model that will never work in real life, no cost analysis, no real use. You did not answer my question. Do you even have more than a handful individual users for your "global" currency actually buying stuff? As you have nothing more than being a currency, unlike ETH with smart contracts etc. Nano is a boomer coin, a true plebbit coin that will not function in real life.

>>14971319
keep going nanofudder. you are only making a fool out of yourself with your shitty spam.

how fucking pathetic do you have to be to spam the same stuff almost daily for one year straight, in any nano thread. holy shit.

This is my last reply. also, saged.

>>14971365
>same stuff almost daily for one year straight
You are delusional. It can sometimes go months without me posting anything on biz, far less about Nano. You nanoid idiots can't provide even basic data and factual answers to my questions, so you always must retort to mudslinging, hysteria and ad hominem. Pathetic.

So you present yourself as a Christian, my fake friend? What do you think about Nano foundation supporting community managers like RockmSockmjesus. You are totally cool with that, right? You don't see that as neither amateurish, incompetent or even evil, right my fake Christian friend? Do you also hysterically support open borders and multiculturalism just like Zack Shapiro, tweeting about it every single day, seemingly in full support from the Nano team and Mica Busch with crazy attacks on free speech and GAB? Are you also globohomo, my "Christian" friend?

>>14971365
>same stuff almost daily for one year straight
You are delusional. It can sometimes go months without me posting anything on biz, far less about Nano. You nanoid idiots can't provide even basic data and factual answers to my questions, so you always must retort to mudslinging, hysteria and ad hominem. Pathetic.

So you present yourself as a Christian, my fake friend? What do you think about Nano foundation supporting community managers like RockmSockmjesus. You are totally cool with that, right? You don't see that as neither amateurish, incompetent or even evil, right my fake Christian friend? Do you also hysterically support open borders and multiculturalism just like Zack Shapiro, tweeting about it every single day, seemingly with full support from the Nano team and Mica Busch with his crazy attacks on free speech and GAB? Are you also in full support of globohomo, my "Christian" friend?

>>14967725
>OK, when has the economic model where the majority use a service provided by a minority for free ever functioned medium or long term? After the price of Nano stabilizes and there is no more potential speculative reason for a holder to run an expensive nano node, why would this model function? Do you have ANY empirical data where a similar model functioned, ever?
Wikipedia

>>14971818
oh hey, thanks. What a wonderful example

So it does work in other systems, and I can't wait to see Nano hit $100.

Nanofudder get stuffed

>>14971818
>Wikipedia
That's a hobby, like being part of a political party pushing your knowledge and views. Can't be compared with the heavy costs involved with running nodes for 100 000 TPS for all eternity with no downtime, all done by volunteers for free. Go to any park or public place if the workers there strike. It looks like hell within a few days. According to Nano and you, that would be no problem as all people would clean up everything for free. It does not work that way, your commie-coin does not work.

>>14971628
Every time you make a thread. I always get a laugh out of it thank you.

>>14971971
Pretty sure running wikipedia is more expensive tbqh

muh nano doesn't get 6 gorillion tps yet

>>14971628
Also why is it pumping. Im still accumulating. FUD more please.

>>14972034
Even if hater, you are welcome :)

>>14965575
no shit pajeets literally spammed the faucet for this shitcoin all day

>>14972039
>pretty sure running wikipedia is more expensive tbqh
No, running a global payment system, decentralized, is insanely expensive. My guess is tens of millions each year. Can't be compared to Wiki. They push a political agenda and those that support that agenda are willing to pay. Running a node is just pure costs and work for free. The idea is crazy, like setting up a VISA system for free, run and paid for by volunteers. It will not happen.

>>14972237
>Running a node is just pure costs and work for free
Every bit as political as wiki, in fact more. Number pulled out your ass.

>>14972374
>Every bit as political as wiki, in fact more.
No, why is not paypal run for free by volunteers?
>Number pulled out your ass.
So where is the cost analysis from Nano foundation for 100 000 TPS? Have any of you Nano investors ever done a simple cost analysis? You invest large sums in a project where you don't even know and understand the basics and the foundation keep you completely in the dark? That's gambling, not investing.

get rekt fag, the future is now and people like you don't deserve to be a part of it

>>14972456
Not a nano investor and no, I don't care enough to do a cost analysis since I have nothing riding on it. Assuming some kind of state sharding in the future, it won't be very costly as it would scale roughly linearly. Considering the simple architecture, sharding should be manageable.

>No, why is not paypal run for free by volunteers?
Because a decentralized collective can't deal with banks like a centralized authority can.

>>14972519
>Because a decentralized collective can't deal with banks like a centralized authority can.
Your false premise was that running a financial system for free was just the same as supporting your political party or sports club. It's not, that's why we have Wiki and political volunteers, but we don't have a VISA or PayPal run by volunteers. The comparison is ludicrous.
>Not a nano investor
Yeah, right. Just very passionate about Nano
>should be manageable
No. Not even close. Nano is far behind other competitors without the crazy business model where Nano must be run for free by volunteers.

>>14967138
that was may 2018
it never went back up to that level

>>14972600
>The comparison is ludicrous.
The ron paul and associated movements would disagree.

>Yeah, right. Just very passionate about Nano
Not really, more fascinated by your persistence and that you think literally anyone cares about satanists. The 90s want their boogeyman back. Nano will fail for reasons that aren't node maintenance cost.

>>14972680
>Nano will fail for reasons that aren't node maintenance cost.
OK, name the other reasons then, and explain.

>>14972779
It has nothing but payments (and plans nothing more), cannot interoperate (doesn't plan to), and will never break the chicken/egg problem that comes with payments because of volatility. Also can't take another niche and then expand into payments by leveraging existing users and infrastructure.

>inb4 POI terminals
tiny company and will be dropped within six months

Because we are Thelemites and Nano has been chosen as the new world reserve currency. Naturally, the common man will rebel against the number of the beast as we incorporate it into IoT, smart devices, television & internet, body implants, and develop systems of points that are given or taken away based on the individual's actions, microtransactions like one couldn't dream of, only every action becomes a trans-action. The world governments who are allied will not agree on a centralized unit of currency that any one nation is in charge of, so it has come to agreement that a decentralized currency with a (current) limit of production is ideal. So this leaves us with BTC and Nano essentially. BTC will lead to global warming however and will eventually have to be phased out due to its poor "beta" version design, so naturally Nano takes the role as the top choice. It has already been selected so to speak. But I digress, it will obviously fail because the common man will not ever let this happen. Will he?

All are welcome, but only few will come.

>>14972946
>>14973185
>>14973350
Why are you occultists always so low IQ and hide behind empty slogans and rambling? There is a reason why you and satan always have to hide in the dark.

Fear becomes you, oh child of ignorance

summoning 42 to this thread >>14967676

going to need your shamanic insight on this.

>>14973424
Only women and weak men seek power from demons and satan.

>>14973391
what the fucks going on here why is nano mooning. fud harder you pajeet. talk about bomber, or something. IM NOT DONE ACCUMULATING

Why is it mooning. Stop buying you pajeets

>>14973904
Don't worry, this is just temporary. Nano will crash back sub 1 USD again pretty soon.

>>14974024
Fuck. FUD harder faggit. Talk about the developers something. Its still climbing.

It has begun.

Join me, my children of darkness, so that we may manifest the light

Post your NANO mooning music. Mine is Lamb of God.

>>14974655
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUKsUtHx4QU
>The Midnight

>>14974693
What is this gay, Stranger Things montage, sound? I hope you aren't really serious, Anon. Satan still burns fags.

This is also fire if you like synthwave

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9cZSLfh7Xw

>>14974722
Sorry Anon the dark one has cursed me with an undying love for 80's retro synthpop. Here, this is more in line with "The Objective of the Dark One", and signifies Nano rising to its peak, the fall to the bottom, and now its new rise up again, granting the light to the people, of whom it belongs.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6A-IoOEPbUs

>>14974725
I guess that is appropriate, if the bishop allows it.

Superdank right here, Lo-fi Vaporwave Trap, not even sure what the fuck you call this shit but it is 10/10
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79Suucn6Y0o

>>14972600
>Nano is far behind other competitors without the crazy business model where Nano must be run for free by volunteers
So you admit then that Nano is the furthest along and best technical implementation of a coin with this economic model. Now we should just debate the assumptions within your argument that its flawed. This mainly assumes either you think mon-monetary incentives don't exist, or that node software wont continue to improve the node software to reduce the requirements needed / computer power womt continue to increase.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31j4DIpgY9U

>>14974693
Thank you for posting your gay FUD music. Its working. Keep posting them. You should some of Grimes horrible music. That should surely FUD the price down

>>14975828
fuck you nog grimes is awesome

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ze1ux7GiW_s

You guys gotta look up Glacier. And if you really like synthwave, check out First Blood by Kavinsky.

>>14976196
Lol fucking knew you were a fairy. Post most so we can drop price down. Let people this is a fag coin

>>14977060
I'll agree on the Grimes. Kinda bearish if you got these reddit fags supporting this coin.

BOW BEFORE THE QUEEN OF BIZ

>>14977482
sell signal

>>14963961
Let the courts decide if NANO (XRB) is satanic

>>14978052
Fucking heavy sell signal. Reddit has just entered the chat

>>14978671
>>14978052
>>14963961
This is the state of Nano FUD ladies and gentlemen. Let it be known that Nano is fucking unfuddable.

>>14978716
>This is the state of Nano FUD ladies and gentlemen. Let it be known that Nano is fucking unfuddable.

Yeah, right. You forgot this. After one year, only spam is partly fixed, but now with added Satanism within organization and community. The rest of the Nano horror show is still there. Enjoy:

Dangerous flaws and major problems with Nano
http://archive.is/diUnZ

Nano Heading for Disaster – Dirty Deals with BitGrail
http://archive.is/GGWIG

Nano and Bitgrail leaders scammed over $100 million from Bitgrail
http://archive.is/zAtyl

>>14974585
>Join me, my children of darkness, so that we may manifest the light
Do you see how incredible stupid and illogical that empty slogan is? How can you get light by joining darkness? Are all of you occultists idiots?

>>14975022
>So you admit then that Nano is the furthest along and best technical implementation of a coin with this economic model.
No, it should be EVEN without the crazy ...etc. There is no way in hell Nano can get the bare minimum of required TPS for a global currency operating micro-payments, 100 000 TPS. Nano is fundamentally flawed and irreparable dysfunctional, both on the technical and business side.

>>14978881
>>14979069
>>14979122

>>14979160
Typical stupid and occult answer to the following question:
>Do you see how incredible stupid and illogical that empty slogan is? How can you get light by joining darkness? Are all of you occultists idiots?

Again; what is it with you occultists and stupidity? Only women and weak men seek power from demons and satan. Tragic and pathetic.

>>14979160
LOL dag boi having another nano meltdown after seeing the price +15%

>>14979376
>LOL dag boi having another nano meltdown after seeing the price +15%
When I warned about Bitconnect, I got the exact same stupid answer as you gave me. +15%, really? Are you proud of that?

>>14979376
>LOL dag boi having another nano meltdown after seeing the price +15%
When I warned about Bitconnect, I got the exact same stupid answer as you gave me. +15%, really? Are you proud of that?

>>14979456
Lol sure DAG boy dont flatter yourself

>>14979456
Hey guys, come on. DAG boy starting to emotional. Dont gang up on him

>>14979376
>>14979490
>>14979554
Please remember that DAG is the best coin in the market.

Pros;
>Ultra-low market cap, 6 million USD
>Will make IOTA, NANO, and partly ETH obsolete with better technology
>DAG founders recently burned ALL their tokens, 7.2% of total supply
>Deflationary token model
>Horizontally scaleable. Faster and more capacity with every node. No theoretical limit to TPS.
>DAG is a platform
>MainNet in Q3
>Staking
>Dynamic Partitioning
>DAG has smart contracts
>Direct on-chain data processing. No other blockchain infrastructure is able to do that
>Light-nodes on phone
>CEO actually ran a business with 45 million in annual revenue
>Advisor: Rehito (Ray) Hatoyama former Managing Director of Hello Kitty (Sanrio)
>Partnership negotiations with NASA, General Motors and Denso
>US, San Francisco based

Just as Nano, DAG is:
>Free
>Instant
>Green
However, they are superior to Nano in virtually every way.
>Part of a large ecosystem, with real use cases that will provide security for the network and world-wide market. Same as IOTA, but better
>This large ecosystem and not solely a currency will provide protection from Central Bank regulators, like ETH & IOTA, but unlike Nano.
>All zero-fee systems are open to spam attacks. Constellation has a much more advanced and elegant solution than Nano with their reputation system.
>Nano has an insane business model where Nano node operators have to do it for free. This will either lead to a crash, where no one bothers to run nodes for fun and take all the costs, or an insane centralization where Amazon controls nearly everything. Constellation has a very elegant solution where micropayments are free for everyone, while large consumers of bandwidth will have to either pay for it in DAG tokens, or run their own nodes

>>14979376
>>14979490
>>14979554
Plus
>Whitelisted for all major exchanges. Didn’t have ICO. No US pre-sale investors. On Kucoin.
>Brilliant ticker (DAG) - normies will land on it when googling dag+crypto
>Good time to buy, coins on sale: http://archive.is/nIcDE
>Partnered with the University of Illinois
>CTO Wyatt writes in academic papers

Cons:
>Constant FUD from psychotic pre-sale investor that lost money when the market crashed in 2018. Spamming biz with debunked accusations, lies and fabrications (e.g. exit scamming, doing cocaine, lost all funds through daytrading, vaporware, restaurant, etc, etc. Claims to be part of secret U.N. instigation team, reporting daily to the U.S. President). Using VPN. Bumps every thread :)

>>14979558


>please remember that DAG is the best coin in the market.

My fucking sides.

Everyone please please please. I need you to remember. Please

>>14979376
>>14979490
>>14979554
Compare what the Constellation founders did for community, compared to Nano and Bitgrail. Difference is night and day. Enjoy your Nano scam team, assraping you again and again. Now with satanists as well.

>>14979571
DAG boi never fails to entertain

>>14979376
>>14979490
>>14979554
>>14979597
Constellation founders burned all their tokens to support community, pic. Compare that to the sociopathic Nano devs and their incestious relationship with the Italian scammers at Bitgrail, and how they behaved after the hack. Difference is night and day. Enjoy your Nano scam team, assraping you again and again. Now with satanists as well.

Starting to think he may be a bot, tbqh.

>>14979558
>Advisor: Rehito (Ray) Hatoyama former Managing Director of Hello Kitty (Sanrio)
I believe it's this guy, together with DAG CEO

>>14979597
>>14979644
>DAG boi never fails to entertain
>Starting to think he may be a bot, tbqh.
Why are you nanoid drones always utterly unable to argue with facts and logic? Is mental garbage, slime, smear and ad hominem all you idiots have? No wonder you love getting assraped by the Nano team.

> DAG

A fucking Ethereum token

>>14979558
Core dev is a genius.

>>14979668
Mainnet Q3

>>14979558

Finally a CEO in crypto space that actually understands business, pic.

>>14979558
Constellation Mcap is now only 4M USD, partly price suppressed by Telegram groups being hijacked by tragically incompetent Crypto Headroom and fellow sycophants. However, they will only impact the price movements short term. Medium and long term team and fundamentals will win. DAG is a clear x1000 candidate.

>>14966800
PNK will never moon faggot what the fuck

>>14963961
>>14964732
>>14965575
lol, tragically Nano on steroids are now flagging comments to hide the fact that they are infested with satanists and promote occultism/satanism. Can Nano and their community sink any lower?

>>14979988
>Nano on steroids
Lmao kek my sides

>>14979988
Satanism is just a fairy tale ... just like christianity.
Religions dont make people evil, just stupid enough to do evil things

>>14963961
if nano is a satanic coin, what's the gnostic coin? I want in on the yaldydollars

>>14980044
>is just a fairy tale ... just like christianity.
Show me how you reached that conclusion. Use logically sound arguments only.
>Religions dont make people evil, just stupid enough to do evil things
Atheists killed, raped and tortured more than 100 million innocent people within less than 100 years. More than any other group in the recorded history of man. Worse, nothing within the empty vacuum of atheistic pseudo-morality says it's wrong to murder, rape and torture. Nothing will stop you atheists from doing that again.

>>14979668
I take this as an admission that you don't have a better 1000x candidate than Constellation (DAG). Am I right?

just got this photo leaked, credible source, more where it came from

Nano and the boys after party leaked pics: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiOgwMC-fAY&s=96

>>14979558
>>14979565
>>14979602
>>14979657
>>14979667
>>14979674
>>14979694
>>14979732
>>14979787
>>14979988
lol mainnet q3.
>still an ERC20 token
pic related

>>14980546
If you are able to transform your incoherent Nano rambling into logically sound argument(s), please do.

>>14979558
That sounds really good, but how do I know they are not scammers and you are shilling your bags?

>>14981194
it's still a fucking ERC token. Nano is its own network

They are all trying to talk us out of Nano. Just be quiet and stay calm.

>>14981194
>but how do I know they are not scammers
-Scammers would not be able to join MOBI and Hyperledger.
- Scammers don't have this level of expertise https://github.com/Constellation-Labs/Light-Paper/blob/master/Constellation_Light_Paper.pdf
- They are very upfront with their ID, showing face on photos, videos etc
- Investors have been at their office. When asked in Telegram CEO said anyone could come and visit them
- Went stealth for half a year, working on the product. Price crashed. Scammers don't do that.
- Constant dev activity
- Founders burned all their tokens to show support to the community. Scammers don't do that. Pic.

Of course you can never be 100% sure, but this is as good as it can get.

>you are shilling your bags
I am of course a bagholder and I believe DAG is the best 1000x candidate out there. If you know of a better one, please let me know.

>>14981770
Thanks that sounds very convincing.
I have a 1000x candidate that is a different angle in crypto, will post a write up later

>>14982061
Always good to diversify, even among 1000x candidates.

>>14982061
Thanks, if you post it on biz, I will have a look at it. Always good to diversify, even among 1000x candidates.

>>14982061
Definitely look at Nano fren.
Easy 1000x from here

>>14982149
>Definitely look at Nano fren.
>Easy 1000x from here
Impossible. Forget Nano's crashed tech, insane business model etc. Just look at the current market cap. Will not happen.

>>14980433
This is exactly the kind of stuff I feared, anon....

>>14982343
i get it now, you're just fudding useless, baseless crap so you can keep accumulating.
I see your game anon. better buy quick the train will leave in 2-3 weeks.

>>14979787
Enjoy your 3.7 mill marketcap fren. Nano is at the big boys table. What a joke you shill a poc erc20

>>14982781
>i get it now, you're just fudding useless, baseless crap so you can keep accumulating.
>I see your game anon. better buy quick the train will leave in 2-3 weeks.
Same rambling as when I warned about Bitconnect.

>>14982885
>Enjoy your 3.7 mill marketcap fren. Nano is at the big boys table
Do you know the history of Raiblocks? And what about the market cap of ETH when they started?

Pic, Zack Shapiro a few days before the crash of Bitgrail, after devs and their friends moved millions of Nano out off Bitgrail. All this when retail investors could not get verified and even if verified, had sharp limits on how much they could move out off Bitgrail. Unlike Nano devs and their friends. https://www.reddit.com/r/nanocurrency/comments/7xqxqu/500_thousand_nano_was_moved_today_out_of_one_of/

>>14983076
Of course Dag can do what Nano did and get to one hundred million in a bullrun. But Nano is so ingrained in the crypto infrastructure, 40,000 members in its reddit, it will be 50 to 100 billion by then. It has coinbase, kraken, binance, and more coming. Dag isn't even the best in its class as we see how Fantom eats its lunch. Dag is the tenth Dag coin in an already crowded field.

>>14982106
Thanks, here it is >>14983332

>>14963961
WEISS: NANO RATED AS UTTER SHITCOIN
D+

"When Developers Get In Over Their Heads"

"But in actual practice, it has fallen short of expectations. And now Nano has effectively admitted defeat, retreating back to an approach that's same old, same old.

What a far cry from the promise it once had!"

Enjoy:
https://weisscrypto.com/en/article/nano-a-tall-promise-of-radical-decentralization-and-scalability-betrayed

>>14983352
Interesting, I will have a look at it.

>>14963961
Looking forward to $300

>>14983303
You clearly have not read this:
>>14983468
https://weisscrypto.com/en/article/nano-a-tall-promise-of-radical-decentralization-and-scalability-betrayed

>>14983468
You still dont get it. This has the entire crypto community involved. 40,000 on reddit. it is way too big to fail.

>>14983494
>Looking forward to $300
Yep, that's not delusional at all...>>14983468

>>14983523
Yeah, more like $1,000.

Remember when people didn't give a fuck about Weiss because it was complete bullshit? (lol EOS)

Now, because it fits the narrative of a couple of retards suddenly it's gospel. Guess it's time for you mongoloids to become rich and infinitely send some nano to an exchange to cash out unlimited dollars. Oh wait, you can't.

>>14983683
yeah, the writer of that article thinks Nano can be double spent. pic related

>>14983683
Time for you to find someone to wash your toilet for free, as part of your "business" model. Oh, wait, you can't? People don't take costs of tens of millions of dollars, pay for it, do all the work, just for nothing? Tell it to Colin and the rest of the delusional Nano devs. Bitgrail is not a scam. Open borders with Zack Shapiro. The list goes on and on.

>>14983683
>>14983749
This is what he is saying, let us see your counter arguments:
Challenge #1. Vulnerability to cheating.

You ask: If only remitter and receiver are required to be aware of a transaction — with no one else overseeing it — isn't it possible that these two parties could collude to cheat the system?

You're damn right it is! Indeed, without anyone overseeing, you should also ask ...

What would stop a bad actor from double-spending? A Nano user could spend the same amounts repeatedly, without anyone being the wiser.

What would stop a bad actor from forging their account balance? The network would not be able verify that a particular user actually has the funds he or she is attempting to spend.

A number of crypto projects, especially those that don't use blockchain, have wrestled with these issues. The reason is clear: Without relying on a single blockchain for verifying all transactions, developers are pressed to come up with some other creative set of rules to prevent cheating.

This is why IOTA relied on a coordinator for so long and only recently began to map out a plan to phase it out. (Separately, it's also why another non-blockchain crypto we've reviewed extensively, Holochain, has no consensus at all. It simply trusts each member of the community to police every other member they interact with.)

How does Nano deal with this problem? By adding a layer of delegated Proof of Stake (DPoS).

But therein lies the dilemma: Nano had little choice but to establish a group of validators (which it calls "Representatives") to verify all the activity on the ledger. And as we typically see in Proof-of-Stake solutions, token-holders vote for candidates to fulfill that role. The validators then use the tokens that have been delegated to them to vote on the validity of transactions.

>>14983683
>>14983749
What do you Nanoids say to this?:
Challenge #2. Validators can't get paid.

All transactions on the Nano ledger are free, and all the tokens that will ever exist were created on day one.

Again, in theory at least, this made sense for a strictly peer-to-peer network; it made it lightweight and cheap to use. Moreover, if there are no validators, why bother issuing new tokens to reward them?

So, it all seemed to fit together nicely …

But that neat construct crumbled when Nano tried to patch up the system with the added PoS layer.

These days, it does have validators. But with no new token issuance and no fees on the ledger, how in the heck are the validators going to get paid for the work they do?

Oops. The fact is they don't get paid. And that leads us to ...

Challenge #3. Back to Semi-Centralized Control.

Since they can't get paid, validators who are voted in have no incentive to run a node. In fact, only folks with a vested interest in the network have any motive for keeping the network running.

End result ...

Just 11 accounts own over one-third of the Nano stake, and two accounts have a third of the stake delegated to them. In Proof of Stake, that means we can no longer consider this ledger to be decentralized, it operates only because the top 11 stake holders allow it to.

>>14983683
>>14983749
And this:

When Developers Get
In Over Their Heads

Let's step back for a moment and look at what's happened here:

Nano was conceived to be one of the most decentralized ledgers on Earth. But a series of challenges and ad-hoc patches have reduced it to a semi-centralized ledger, with two representatives — one of them being none other than Binance — currently holding enough power to censor the network.

It started off by promising a radical, innovative approach to decentralization, peer-to-peer transactions and scalability (based on its "block lattice"). It all sounded cool when they said it.

But in actual practice, it has fallen short of expectations. And now Nano has effectively admitted defeat, retreating back to an approach that's same old, same old.

What a far cry from the promise it once had!

>>14966332
Chainlink is such a scam that Weiss crypto ratings didn't even bother with it

>>14983802
>You ask: If only remitter and receiver are required to be aware of a transaction — with no one else overseeing it — isn't it possible that these two parties could collude to cheat the system?

That's not how Nano works. Nano has a shared ledger among all nodes within the network. pretty basic stuff.

>What would stop a bad actor from double-spending?
a shared public ledger and a voting protocol to confirm transactions, like there currently is

>>14983818
>Moreover, if there are no validators, why bother issuing new tokens to reward them?
There were nodes from the start lol.

>how in the heck are the validators going to get paid for the work they do?
we already discussed the difference in non-monetary incentives, and how they actually do exist.

>validators who are voted in have no incentive to run a node. In fact, only folks with a vested interest in the network have any motive for keeping the network running.
He even manages to get the core idea of running a node: only those with a vested interest in the network's health will run nodes. as it expands, it's safe to assume more nodes will start too.

>>14983839
>wordswordswords
his misconceptions about Nano are wholly astounding.

Betting against Weiss has worked before too, betting against them now makes sense. Juan is an idiot.

Stop investing in old, expired shitcoins. You must hop aboard exciting new moon missions. Pic related.

>>14985449
What's ROI there?

>>14985472
Right now trading at ~2.5x - still an amazing buy