/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>1484258
> Buy high sell low!

Meh. The markets are at or near all-time highs on 20% of all trading days. If you're going to get sad in your vagina every time we approach a new market high, you'll be dumping your entire portfolio every 5 days, never make any profits, and die a poorfag like you are now.

Protip: the markets aren't physical objects. They aren't subject to the laws of physics. Gravity does not affect the markets. "What goes up must come down," does not apply to the S&P 500. The natural state of the markets is rising.

>>1484258
>the market all time high in 2006

?????

>>1484258
For the Technically retarded.

>>1484603
For you, who is apparently technically retarded.

>>1484644

what is the sp 500 like just one stock or 500 diff stocks an index? redpill a young man plox

>>1484358
>>1484644


Sure thing, but...the longer a bull run goes on for, the more likely it is you will make a loss if you decide to invest now.

If people start to decide that we've topped out and start pulling investment, then it's easy for them to trigger a downward market.

Consider that a lot of top investors like Icahn and Soros are predicting a move down soon. You don't know when exactly it will happen, but as time goes on the risk increases simply because we know that recessions eventually happen. And we don't often know exactly what will cause it but there'll be a nice big black swan around the corner any minute now.

>>1484675
Typical fallacy of someone too petrified of loss to invest. All investing entails risk; you'd better get over your fears fast.

People have been calling for a crash since 2010. If you listened to their advice the way you seem inclined to do, you'd have missed 180% gain in order to avoid a 20% fall. Pretty fucking stupid.

>the longer a bull run goes on for, the more likely it is you will make a loss if you decide to invest now
Also, this is 100% false. You don't know how long the bull market is going to continue, how much it will rise, when a pullback will happen, and how much it will decline. You're just a scared pussy who fears the worst.

>>1484699
>Typical fallacy

Typical misunderstanding.

>this is 100% false

The thing is, bull runs are not random. They have an average length, even if there is variance.

For that reason, the longer a bull run goes on for, the more likely it is that there will be a downturn. I'm not saying there is a guaranteed downturn this year or next year, but for somebody who is considering doing a lump sum investment, and who is 7 years into a bull market where the mean average length is 8 years, there is an advantage to waiting as opposed to jumping in, even if that is not a guaranteed positive outcome.

The problem is you're backing up your argument by saying "but whatabout the risk" while assuming that a strategy to minimise risk does not also itself entail some risk. I don't think anybody is naive to that.

And if you don't believe this, then you would ascribe the exact same probability of a recession happening within 100 years as you would to one happening within 1 year, would you?

>>1484644
>>1484656
>All time highs without a crash.jpg
Crash of 1987 was pretty nasty and got a lot of people scarred.
Tt only looks like there were no crash because of chart scaling.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MyToTwag34#t=1m34s

>>1484786
>For that reason, the longer a bull run goes on for, the more likely it is that there will be a downturn.
Wrong. Bull runs, and bear markets for that matter, have reasons. The markets don't go up or down because of gravity or time or because that's what they did in the past.

And you're not minimizing risk by trying to time the market. You're increasing it, as every study has ever shown.

The denial is real.

>>1484809
>chart scaling
Yes, faggot, the scaling is misleading in both directions. Anyone with a brain knows this. OP is reverse trolling.