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>biz claims philosophy degrees are worthless

biz and basically every single employer in the world says philosophy degrees are worthless

and it's not a claim. a philosophy degree IS worthless

>>14821239
>dude bails out on vapourware scam project
Maybe philosophy degrees ARE worthless.

>>14821348
worthless if you want to be a wagecuck
brilliant for independent thought

>>14821239
He studied Philosphy and Management. Also, you don't need a degree to be an entrepreneur.

>4chan has to make sense
go have some sex op

>>14821239
Anyone that says that is retarded, history and philosophy degrees are the most common among the wealthy for a reason. Just because you have a degrer in philosophy doesn't mean you get a job in philosophy. You get a job in an industry you have skills in, in a position often related to helping shape the focus of departments, divisions, or an entire company.

>>14821239
All CEO's are obsessed with philosophy. Why do you think they read stupid "how to be the best leader" books all day. It's just that most CEO's read normie books the NY Times tells them to read, Sergey reads the chad Plato.

>>14821452
I remember from somewhere that Sergey's favorite book was some Plato's book. Was it The Republic?

>>14821239
When you're a CEO you have to build the skills to bullshit retarded wagecucks and wall street analysts. A philosophy degree and won't position me to join the 1% anyways.

philosophy isn't useless, actually it's the most useful thing you can read while young

a philosophy degree... well if you are struggling that can be a really bad choice, you see, only the patrician people who already made it get philosophy degrees, it's not about making money at that point, unironically most people goal in life is getting more money because they have none, most normies goals are about expending lots of money on "experiences" that they can brag about (and they half-lie about them because they actually sucked ass so they still have to make their fantasy on their minds that it were the time of their lives because of the realization of spending money that they can not afford fucks their monkey brain), have sex

for autists, reading philosophy while young is like getting a +3 passive trait in all your skills, you don't see the benefits right away but at the least expected times your philosophy skills make you get a leverage over stupid normies

>>14821239
>rips America for being overweight
>hates neckbeards
>Invests in an overweight neckbeard

>>14821530
>some Plato's book
I fucking hate everything about people like you.

>>14821530
It was Plato's dialogues. Which I haven't read, but I did enjoy the allegory of the cave. It blew my mind when I was younger.

>>14821558
Who should i read as a youngfag anon?

>>14821669
>Rich Dad, Poor Dad
>Plato's Dialogues
>Human Action by Mises
>The Intelligent Investor by Graham
>Freakinomics
>Malazan Book of the Fallen

>>14821669
>14821669
dont listen to these faggots the only book you should read is THUS SPOKE ZARATHUSTRA

>>14821239

>>14821857
Not gonna lie famalam I was getting ready to rip you a new one over Malazan because it sounded pretty faggy, but I'm kind of interested now. Might start the series someday, thanks anon

>>14821239
Philosophy graduates are second only to physicists in terms of student IQ. Im a med student but would happily trust a. Philosopher ceo.

>>14821669
Everything by Plato, all of the dialogues, Meno and the republic are 2 personal favorites.

>>14821912
There are a lot of brainlet philosophy students, it's an ego issue to them. Philosophy majors are generally pretty high IQ but I wouldn't trust them solving problems as much as I would a non-street-shitting engineer for example
>t. engineer

>>14821669

Go to /lit/ and ask there, but if you want a typical reading course to get stuff through your skull you could do something like this

Ecclesiastes - The Bible
Plato Dialogues (Main ones, Gorgias, Phaedo, Euthyphro, Crito, Apology, Protagoras, etc) Parmenides is also good but it's kinda too deep for now
Schopenhauer (Parerga and Paralipomena, read those who interests you, try to read those related to ethics, religion, morality and politics)
Nietzsche (On the genealogy of morals)
Stirner (The Ego and Its Own)
Job - The Bible
Zizek on Job - youtube

Now go back and read plato again and the bible, then read Kierkegaard on the concept of anxiety and dig into hegel dialectics, you should become redpilled at this point and realize the big schism that happened in the philosophy world and the modernity, also try to read Hume on morality and Heidegger Introduction to metaphysics, you should jump from morality into faith with kierkegaard and then into metaphysics, Job book combined to Ecclesiastes is absolutely crucial, Zizek explains some of it to deal with propaganda but you can use it in context, then read Plato again

>>14821903
Best fantasy series ever written. Just wait for the frothing mass of cannibalistic peasants forced through a desert, starved and insane, to be used as a bio weapon to destroy and dehumanize enemy cities.

Or a princess, betrayed by her sister and sent to a prison camp where she is raped into such vile depravity she ascends to godhood as an arbiter of the apocalypse.

Or a sword that hews your soul from your body and tethers it to a caravan in the ether where you must pull the caravan, chained and broken, for all eternity.

>>14821239
well regardless of what anyone says he is cashing out 50 million dollars so hats off to his thinking degree

>>14821239
I got a PhD in sucking dick!

>>14821239
>Not mastering dialectic...
Never gonna make it.

>>14821960

Regardless of the viewpoint you get from all of this, it will help you see different worldviews and how belief shapes them, some of the books i mentioned are absolutely opposites, some are just criticism of the others, but they are all related to the same, you can obviously read more about some topics if you dig deep enough, like reading Epictetus discourses if you like Plato, or reading the rest of Nietzsche if you didn't liked Schopenhauer, or reading all Schopenhauer if you feel like it, but you should at least try reading once or dig into those before going further, maybe some concepts like the Hegel master and slave dialectics while reading stirner and nietzsche, or reading about the Parmenides and Heraclitus while reading Heidegger

>>14822058
why do any of that? sounds boring

>>14821239
It's worthless but it's not an active detriment

>>14821857
>>14821971
I read like the first 200 pages and dropped it, how long does it take to get good?

>>14821944
There's a lot of brainlets on all courses but nonetheless the average intelligence for philosophy students is right at the top.

My gf is an engineer so i know they're smart and certainly hard working compared to philosophers, but who would i see as more company leader material? Probably the philosophers. Engineers are too block headed and stubborn.

>>14822120
First book was written by a professional anthropologist and his colleague when they were really into DND, has some cool ideas but throws you into a 100,000 year history in the middle with 30 different characters, its very difficult. The 2nd books is solid gold and it gets better from there.

The 2nd book will tear your soul to shreds.

>>14822143
I can agree with this. I've been interested in getting into philosophy for a while, so maybe one day I'll be CEO material

>>14822076

I don't know, I guess It's like reading 4chan

>>14822199
This is the main issue with philosophy degrees, anyone can buy the books. I knew a few students and loved talking to them, the whole qualia and subjectivity stuff capitvates me and always will. However they were paying uni fees for a library card.

Im sure part of the selection for IQ is they are from intelligent parents, therefore very wealthy, and never really thought about uni as a career step, it was more of a fun rite of passage.

Do a different degree and read all the niezstche you want at home.

>>14822249
Someone should write a new Philosophy book based on their experiences in the anonymous void of 4chan.

Title it "The Men with No Names: The Story of Anonymous Social Groupings on Internet Forums and How They Memed Their Will Into Existence"

>>14822249
>>14822076

It probably has the same reward mechanism than 4chan and many other pavlovian saloon parlors... Digging into piles of weird and useless information, until you find some really good ideas and lines that make you go "damn... so this is why i was reading all of this all along!", and the dopamine surge about the random gather of gold-tier information makes you go like "I should keep reading stuff like this, maybe i can find more", the random aspect is like gambling, where you just don't know when something good will happen, that makes you get hooked

>>14822370
No it just teaches you systems of thinking that can be applied to business concepts on very large scales.

>>14821380
If you dont want to wagecuck you might as well self study without going in debt like a retard for no benefit.

>>14821620
>It was Plato's dialogues
Every book by Plato is a dialog, you stupid cunt

>>14821669
start with the greeks, youngfag.

based sergey used his philosophy degree to dump 700,000 tokens on us to buy big macs

>>14821239
1) FACT: Markets go Up -> Markets go down. 2) FACT: You either Hold, Sell or Buy -> how you conduct that is up to you, the individual investor. So ... what are you gonna do? *Sergey has 650,000,000.00 Tokens at his disposal. Ultimately, the PRICE is determined by his actions in the market. Do not ever forget this. ChainLink (and it's market value) is not proportionally controlled by the "MARINES". Ask yourselves this: Can i live with these facts? Everything else is just FUCKING FUD (good or bad). I sincerely wish EVERYONE makes their choices/decisions wisely. That is all.

>>14821530
It was the Socratic dialogues of Protagoras and Gorgias

>>14822249
I actually enjoyed reading Plato because it read like one of those long winded autistic arguments you find on 4chan sometimes.