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Is an unknown amount enough to make it?

>>14728471
privacy is a meme. It's 2019 not january 2017

>>14728570
Do you close the bathroom door when you take a shit or not?

>>14728559
yes

>>14729104
implying the US government isnt watching everything you do.

Everyone knows this. This is why nobody gives a shit anymore.

>>14730774
oh yeah, so lets just let the government take more and more of our civil liberties and privacy from us, because "nobody gives a shit anymore"

the most retarded stance to have on this

criminal shitcoin. mass delist coming soon, gonna dump to single digits

spotted the nose right here: >>14731180

>>14731212
literally everythng he said is true. only use case for monero is for criminals. hope you get raped in prison scum

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>>14731180
wheres all the billions of criminal money going to go when fiat dies then? they need money too

>>14731278
haha so true

>>14731260
privacy is general is for criminals. if you ever took a shit with the door closed i hope you rot in prison scumbag

>>14731288
fiat dies when government dies. if government dies you will get gangraped by niggers and die anyway
>>14731302
bank offers you privacy too moron. can you tell me what I bought today from my card? no you can't little tard kid. enjoy gangrape in prison criminal

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>>14731260
imagine being this retarded

>>14731331
another delusional bagholder lmao. enjoy your 1 dollar bags tard

>>14731260
this. buying monero is like begging to get raped in the prison shower

>>14731322
>bank offers you privacy too moron. can you tell me what I bought today from my card? no you can't little tard kid. enjoy gangrape in prison criminal

if you use bitcoin and not a bank i can tell what you bought retard

>>14731322
>only government can save you from bad people

>>14731359
>durr i gots gun i can beat all da bad guiss jus like dat movie with rambo i saw!!!
how is puberty treating you buddy?
>>14731350
why would you use bitcoin? you want to wait 4 hours for a transaction and pay a shitton fees to chink miners?

>>14731419
>why would you use bitcoin? you want to wait 4 hours for a transaction and pay a shitton fees to chink miners?
ok then show me a crypto with privacy like a bank?....oh wait its Monero

>>14731464
or.. just use a bank like a normal non-criminal person

>>14731483
banks are the criminals

>>14731491
use cash then

>>14731503
>implying cash is away from the banking system, manipulation and inflation fucking every man woman and child on this planet, due to the fact that every national currency is tied to USD

>>14731503
>international transfers
>large amounts
>fiat debasement

>>14728471
Monero is nice, but I can get these services cheaper.

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>>14731535
>durr muhh inflammations!!!
>3% inflation per year is unacceptable!!!
>meanwhile your shitcoin dumps 15% in mere seconds

>>14728471
I actually agree that monero is incredibly important in the grand scheme of things.

Let’s face it, no one will ever and I mean ever use cryptocurrencies for its general purpose of spending it on goods and services. Why would they when they can use stablecoins. No one wants to purchase something that is work 100 dollars now but in the future it’s now 1500.

So that leaves the whole digital gold narrative. Like it or not, that’s what btc is becoming. A hedge against political uncertainty.

What it needs is privacy. You don’t go listing your bank account details online. Neither will you want the world to see your crypto holdings.

Nothing on the market is better than Monero. It works as intended. Their wallets kinda suck but that will become more normie friendly I’m sure in the future.

>>14731260
imagine trusting the government and big tech this much

>>14728471
Bout time we get the newfags acquainted with the true king

>>14731619
big tech and government is out to get you, because you are so special and important. better wear some of those tinfoil hats to get away from them bucko

It may be used by junkies and pedos but xmr is literally the only cryptocurrency right now being used as a CRYPTO and CURRENCY.

I'd say that monero is literally the bitcoin that Satoshi actually wanted.

>>14731601
>Let’s face it, no one will ever and I mean ever use cryptocurrencies for its general purpose of spending it on goods and services. Why would they when they can use stablecoins. No one wants to purchase something that is work 100 dollars now but in the future it’s now 1500.

i used to think this same thing, but think of it this way: lets just imagine a world where fiat is gone people will still need to buy food, houses and other things.
My grandfather used to tell me he remembered when gas was 10 cents a gallon, since cryptos go up in price (at least for now) it will be the same thing but only in reverse

eventually I belive that enough people will be using cryptos that their prices will be fairly stable (may take decades)

I like the idea of privacy coins, the principle behind it is something any kind of corpcoin can't provide so it's a good differentiator. fluffypony has a trashy attitude but whatever.
Can someone explain why Monero doesn't seem to pump much? With projects going 10x or 100x left and right, it feels like it barely moves much when everything pumps.
Unless/until people start valuing privacy more I don't expect to see a shift where there's major pumps with it, and given how it just acts like most every other larger altcoin (like ltc/dash) the past 2 years, it seems like a safer bet just to hold BTC if you want to park money somewhere.
>>14731601
>Their wallets kinda suck but that will become more normie friendly I’m sure in the future.
Hmm I tried it 2 years ago and it was pretty painful then, sucks to hear it still hasn't improved much.

>>14731885
the wallets have improved alot in the last year there's an "easy mode" or something now. but you don't even need to use the offical GUI, you can use Exodus or mymonero, also monerujo for android or cakewallet for IOS

monero in the past has lagged behind bitcoin about 6 months, and right now monero is in the deepest bear market of its history vs bitcoin, this is going to turn around eventually and the anons that have been accumulating cheap ass moneroj will be rewarded

>>14731946
thanks anon, just bought 2.9

>>14732104
learn about it, research it, watch monero konfrenco talks (some are long and boring others are better) watch monero talk watch breaking monero ect... you will have iron hands if you follow this advice

>>14728471
nigger monero is ded wasabi wallet made it obsolete now that you can be have anon btc

>>14731419
>what is a goodguywithagun.gif for 500

>>14731581
exactly. you won't feel moneros inflation for the next 20 years and the inflation is good because it encourages people to provides miner security and keeps whales from being able to gobble up all the coins in existence and control the market. new coins being minted forever at a slow pace is what keeps monero more decentralized in terms of whale to minnow ratio

>>14732701
I don't think you understand what inflation is. Inflation isn't just based on currency supply. When your shitcoin dumps it means everything priced on that becomes more expensive, your shitcoin dumping IS inflation

>>14732534
wrong. Optional privacy is not real privacy, years down the line these "mixing services" can be un-obfuscated. wasabi wallet is like trying to put a bandaid on a bullet wound.

one of the wasabi wallet devs actually said that coin mixers are a temporary solution and privacy coins are really what you want to be using.

>https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/c9vtb6/nopara73_creator_of_wasabi_wallet_compared_to/

also wasabi has a minimum mix amount of .1 BTC which is getting to be quite alot of money....so privacy...but only for the rich? lol

>>14732746
everything is dumping retard

>>14732777
classic dumb bagholder line

>>14732756
btc is not a coin for the pors, sooner or later transactions on bitcoin will cost above 1k each and it will be used as settlement layer.
schnorr signatures and taproot will allow to hide scripts in the signature/pubkey making btc go private again , privacy coins are literally ded
read the image i posted so you will save yourself from holding worthless privacy coins

>>14732783
>classic dumb bagholder line

>>14732842
monero will be able to be cpu mined and be profitable doing so. this will make bitcoin dumb to use and you just said transactions in btc will cost above 1k when moneros are 5 cents because they actually implemented buletproofs

>>14732842
>privacy features on a transparent ledger
why even try to convince you?

Don't give brainlet-posting anon any more (You)'s. He's been posting the same shit for years. Just search for any one of his brainlet filenames and you can see how many retarded threads he's shitted up on this board with his nonsense. He works for the fucking Fed lmao.

>>14728471
Monero actually has alot of good OC memes. That's how you know it's going to be a winner. Furthermore, the demand for Monero will ultimately be driven by the rich. They will not want everyone in the world to know what their wallet ballance is, nor will they want to pay taxes on their crypto gains.

>>14728471
Monero will be left in the fucking stone age with the only use case to buy drugs. Blockchain tech is what matters, not dumb "private" playmoney. There will be no adoption for privacy coins

>>14732881
wish I could be there when it gets delisted from most exchanges and dumps to 3 dollars
>>14732967
>all fudders are 1 guy!
lmao. classic schizo brainlet. these are the types of retards that baghold monero

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>>14732937
you guys didn't even read the image i posted, i doubt you are able to understand it.
when hidden scripts are added ANY transaction can be a coinswap : also you can literally have fully obfuscated history on btc with scripts composability:
"cross-input signature aggregated coin join, that has adaptor signature blind coin swaps that open the channel factory MuSig."
moenro brainlets are not even able to understand that asics are a feature of a protcol, and fixating on changing the algo every 6 months just adds a huge risk

>>14732988
>There will be no adoption for privacy coins
t. FBI

>>14733010
i read it, and again its privacy on a public ledger
it. wont. work. sorry

>>14732997
Hello Craig, how's the court going?
Don't forget to take your meds please.

>>14733238
argument your point or its not valid.
as i said above any transaction can be a coinswap so you have an infinite anonimity set

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>>14733271
the ledger is still transparent no?
you need to think about metadata leakage as well
what about hiding amounts? you would need confidential transactions for this
there are multiple levels to privacy not just mixing
also doesn't schnorr require a hardfork to implement?

>>14733415
the ledger is still transparent but the history would get obfuscated and link bwteen multiple txn will not eb able to be find.
just use proper opsec and you won't have any metadata leakage.
hiding amounts is something that should never be integrated in bitcoin base layer, cause its a huge risk for potentially undetectable inflation.
no schnorr doesn't require any hard fork, it can be softforked in, in fact the BIP has already been submitted and now its being audited

>>14732997
It could dump to 3 cents tomorrow and I'd keep buying. Besides, I don't buy on exchanges... I buy them in cash.

See what separates us Monero-chads from you speculators is you're hoping to hold shitcoins to eventually drop your bags on new adopters and sell it for USD or whatever local fiat... we are investing in the currency of the future. Imagine you're in New England in 1750s... and you see the writing on the wall for the revolution and you have the opportunity to start stacking the future US dollar in exchange for your weird colonial credits millions of dollars at a time because "that whole freedom thing is never going to work out"... I'm not selling, I'm never going to exchange the future money for the past's money.

Monero is ACTUALLY being used. Literally being used right now as currency worldwide.

>>14728471
OP IS A FAGIT
go GRIN
monero is private pffffft sif it is, i see ur allowance coming in from ur cocksucking at the church every sunday

>>14733478

interesting ill have to look more into it
I have to confess that I do also hold bitcoin
(bitcoin and monero are the only two for me)

>just use proper opsec and you won't have any metadata leakage.

this is something you shouldn't have to deal with if you're touting "privacy" if its a true privacy coin this should be a plug and play sort of thing without any need for opsec

>>14733551
more user friendly software that makes opsec easier to reach will be released .
just take a look at wasabi

>>14733381
fuck off

>>14733010
>fixating on changing the algo every 6 months just adds a huge risk
That's not happening any more. RandomX is the last chance at ASIC resistance.

>>14733616
>just take a look at wasabi
Wasabi and any other kind of Coinjoin bullshit is no replacement for default fungibility. You're already fucking flagging yourself as questionable as soon as you mix your bitcoins because it's completely obvious that you used a mixing service by looking at past transactions. This is a serious problem with bitcoin. Schnorr signatures cannot fix everything. This has been discussed at length by experts already.

>>14733616
why should you force a user to use outside software (which has the possibility of being compromised itself) rather than making the base layer protocol as bulletproof as you can?
this is the vision of Monero

>>14731180
yes yes mass delist from dex and atomic swaps very soon just sell it ok
sell your btc and never buy it again while you're at it

>>14731260
>The gentiles seem to have acquired knowledge. We must cease our operations.

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>>14732997
>that brainlet samefag with that 0/10 weak FUD on every Monero thread

Got mad?
The truth is: Monero is the best cryptocurrency there. It's the true Bitcoin that Satoshi desired at his time. It'll eventually become #1 at some time, and there's absolutely NOTHING you can do to stop it.
Best wishes.

>>14735262
pls sirs buy poonero. is real vishnu vision

>>14732977
Checked, and you're right. Tech quality is a distant second to taking up headspace in marks, er, investors.

Monero is great but fundamentals dont mean shit in this market. Monero works whether it's $1 or $1000

yea xmr is cool and all, what's the stablecoin version of this?

>>14735375
This

>>14731346
Nice. Just bought 100k

>>14735375
The more it works the more people hold it because it's useful. It's also getting mined out until the tail, so there's that too.

umm no. ARRR is actually really untraceable with the largest anonymity set in crypot.

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>>14735271
Hey JUD

have sex incel

>>14731212
hes totally right, literally another anon posted in another thread about his drug dealer now accepting Monero. L M A O

>AND
>AN
>UNKNOWN
>AMOUNT
>OF
>MONERO

>>14736611
don't have sex. the world doesn't need more retards in the gene pool

>>14728471
What's a good forum for people who mine Monero? I'm thinking about doing this since I have free electricity.

>>14731601
Normies don’t care about privacy though. That’s why they’re normies. That and they’re also close to retard level iq

>>14731464

Pascal coin

>>14735271
Thank you for warning us about the evils of privacy. Can you imagine a future where our greatest ally, the government, can't forcefully take the citizen's property to finance their illegal spying and war apparatus? That would be as bad as the holocaust.

>>14737840
High net worth individuals are going to take Monero to the stratosphere. They do not want people to see how much money they have.

>>14735262
Don't listen to the dumbasses here. XMR is definitely way ahead of it's competition and it's being used as we speak for dark web transactions.

becoming #1 though is a dream pipe. No government or bank will support using it. Chainlink takes the cake on that one.

I'm all in on Monero, Ripple and LINK, mostly because those 3 are what I'm using for an app I'm working on...

>>14738140
Drop the XRP. Everything that Ripple has promised is being delivered by LINK.

>>14736614
Oh shit ig that means his drug dealer was starving until Monero came out